Topic: The Biggest Fish - cooperative gambling game! - page 4. (Read 10271 times)

I ask to add in a log a name of fish opponent. I want to revenge 

The biggest fish doesn't give u free letters. U have to attack someone to get a letter.
Bigger fish = better odds to get a letter after an attack (even unsuccessful one). The odds scale up to 100% for the biggest fish. If ur fish is 57% of the biggest one - ur odds are 57%. Keep in mind that it's not profitable to buy 2 fish and bite each other non-stop, coz u lose 1% of ur money each bite.

I love you.

Scavengers? 

So I can just buy the biggest fish right?  just deposit enough to make mine bigger just to floss it?

It's by design. To get a free slot if u need it to store something else. If there were Scavengers at the bottom they would pick the letter.

whoa, I clicked my 'E' and it dropped away, I had no idea, why did it do that?

New update:
The Shop has been added with 3 items to test it. To buy an item u must have the letters of its name. Letters that u have are highlighted.

Next update:
Some items for the shop. Bazaar for those who wish to sell their items and letters for bitcoins (added/subtracted from the weight of a fish). Should be handy to swap letters with other players.

I think MPEx got up to 30.883, I deposited up to 28 odd but heeded the advice not to bite again, then I added the exact amount to equal MPEx's 30.883 so that we were 50/50 chance of win lose again, then I sacrificed many virgins & bit to win 13.898 on my attack fish plus 1.389 on my own other referral fish, so 99% of half the total MPEx weight was 15.287 btc the other 1% of it going to the house 0.1544 btc

Yep you can exactly equal someone's else's weight to attack/defend for 50/50 chance, re martingaling one would use another fish of one's own as allie to referral the 9% of any wins to, so effectively you get 99% overall of any wins (& the house gets 1%) & on losses you lose the normal 50% - whether your opponent is collecting 90% of that or 99% is up to them, it will be on a different fish anyways.

In your example: Suppose there's a 32 BTC fish and I want to use martingale betting to eat it.

I load up 32 BTC too (if I'm not allowed to bite an equal, load up with 31.999 instead, but assume I can bite an equal).
Yep you can np.

If I lose, I'm 16 BTC down, and the 32 fish now has 48 BTC (let's ignore the 10% that doesn't go to the winner for simplicity's sake).
Just taking a look at it with the actual figures to see, so opponent fish now has 46.4 BTC

So I deposit another 32, to match the 48 fish and lose again.  I lose 24 BTC
So I deposit 30.4 to match the 46.4 fish and lose again. I lose 23.2 BTC

Now I have 24, the big fish has 72, I need to deposit another 48 to match him, and I've lost 16+24 = 40 BTC in total
I have 23.2, the big fish has 67.28, I need to deposit 44.08 to match him, and I've lost 16+23.2 = 39.2 BTC in total

Now if I bite him and win, I don't get back the 40 BTC I'm down - I only get 36, so I don't even break even.
Now if I bite him and win, I don't get back the 39.2 BTC I'm down - I only get 33.3036, so I don't even break even. Correct

If I lose this 3rd attack as well, I lose a further 36, making my total losses 40+36 = 76, and after redepositing, both fishes are now 108 BTC.
If I lose this 3rd attack as well, I lose a further 33.64, making my total losses 39.2+33.64 = 72.84, and after redepositing, both fishes are now 97.556 BTC.

If I win the 4th attack, I win 54 BTC but I'm already 76 down.  So it looks like the longer I go without winning, the further and further I fall behind, with no chance of getting my losses back.
If I win the 4th attack, I win 48.29022 BTC but I'm already 72.84 down.  So it looks like the longer I go without winning, the further and further I fall behind, with no chance of getting my losses back. Yep so it seems. One would need 2 consecutive wins to come out ahead.

I guess the cause of this is the house's 1% cumulative fee & the fact that 10% of the opponents wins is not left on the same fish (9% to an allie & 1% to the house).

Edit: I corrected my numbers.

Not so many at the moment, but u can offer. If it's not difficult to code and doesn't ruin the balance, then ur items will be added into the game.

What items will be in the shop?

Hehe.  I was watching your battle with MPEx earlier.  MPEx got up to 50+ BTC, and you re-deposited up to 28 BTC or something, but then someone suggested you think again about risking so much, and it seemed you took his advice.

Now I see MPEx is back down to 20 BTC.  I can't tell whether he withdrew, stashed a lot in the chest, or was bitten successfully.

As for martingaling, I'm not sure it works in this game.

Long boring exploration of how the biting works:


Does that look about right?

Say you win, then 50% of the other fish gets shared out, say it's a 20 btc fish, of the 50% ie 10 btc then 90% of the won weight goes to you ie 9 btc, 9% goes to your allie fish (yellow one) ie 0.9 btc & 1% goes to the house ie 0.1 btc, if you choose the 0 fish to start as your allie then the house gets that or now it goes to octopus for a jackpot bonus pool, but if you run a few fish then obviously it's advantageous to click on one of your others for an allie & use those further up the chain to do the biting.

Instructions are shown in game at the bottom of the screen, after you have joined the game "Click here to read how to play"

Edit: btw it is recommended to always click on an Otoh fish for your allie as they will bring you much luckks & also will leave you in peace rather than possibly attempt to martingale you

There is something like Top10 planned. And some other Statistics...

It's really entertaining, we could have a diary/ranking of all battles? octopus still has free tentacles: D

I has been watching an interesting battle. MPEx had grown to 15 BTC when Otoh attacked him. Otoh lost like 15 BTC, MPEx became 30 BTC fat. Then Otoh fed his fish up to 30 BTC and successfully bit MPEx. That was quite insane. Though Otoh got his coins back and MPEx lost nothing.

In the middle of the bottom row, there's a "Click here to read how to play" link.  It may not appear until you have made a deposit.  It doesn't appear pastable.

U r right. 0 fish won't give u extra coins. This 9% goes to Octopus and paid as Jackpot.

Where did you find the instructions?

I'm wondering what happens to the 10% if I click the 0 fish to start.  I'm guessing it just goes to the house, and I don't end up keeping any more of my winnings than if I clicked a 'real' fish to start.

A miniupdate has been applied.

Now, if a yellow fish is invisible then its referral bonus is collected by Octopus. After 1 BTC collected it announces Jackpot. Anyone who bites after that has 50% chance to get the jackpot.

New update:
Every bite can be rewarded with a Latin letter which goes to an attacker. Odds scale depending on the attacker's weight up to 100% for the heaviest fish. Later the letters will be used to purchase items.
NB: Click on a letter in the Chest to throw it away if u have no empty slots to store coins.

Next update:
Item Shop.

Sweet, for some reason I really like that way. I just went slumming, lost every time, but now I'm biggest again anyway hahaha.