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Quote from: Zazzu on September 21, 2020, 12:31:53 AM

The thing is that most of the payment's rates of signature bounties have been decreased and that's because some high ranks members get satisfied by maybe 15$ per week!
that's not even enough for the fee I don't know why they do it?it hurts signature bounties payments.

The latest one is this Streamix bounty campaign where they offer 1500 of their token out of their 100 million supply I don't know the potential of the token but if Bounty hunters only managed to get 30 in the signature campaign it's not even worth it unless the token will reach $5 which is unlikely.

It all depend on the participants as if they are agree to work for less then why the companies will pay higher. I remember the past that when the participants were only working for high payment campaigns then all of them started to pay higher to the participants.

There is the case of demand and supply in every field of life which rule the rates of that field.

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Quote from: Zazzu on September 21, 2020, 12:31:53 AM

The thing is that most of the payment's rates of signature bounties have been decreased and that's because some high ranks members get satisfied by maybe 15$ per week!
that's not even enough for the fee I don't know why they do it?it hurts signature bounties payments.

The latest one is this Streamix bounty campaign where they offer 1500 of their token out of their 100 million supply I don't know the potential of the token but if Bounty hunters only managed to get 30 in the signature campaign it's not even worth it unless the token will reach $5 which is unlikely.

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Quote from: WiND33 on September 22, 2020, 12:08:14 AM

If you look at the lists of bounty participants, more than half of them are scammers because they offer stolen content. I had such that articles were stolen from me personally, so I had to communicate with managers in order to remove the scammers. Honestly, it's a pity that such a wonderful way of earning money was killed by human greed.

things like that have happened even in the real world. it's just that, people are doing it online more often nowadays. To be honest, now I see that quite a lot of projects become a scam if they make payments without going through escrow. things like scammer prevention have been widely recommended, it's just that there are still more people affected by a scam than those who are not. However, choosing a bounty that has an escrow would be preferable.

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If you look at the lists of bounty participants, more than half of them are scammers because they offer stolen content. I had such that articles were stolen from me personally, so I had to communicate with managers in order to remove the scammers. Honestly, it's a pity that such a wonderful way of earning money was killed by human greed.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on September 19, 2020, 06:53:30 AM

Just recently we are beginning to have some Twitter campaign giving hunters reward in btc in the service section. This is one sure way to take off this muster that seem like a cancer called bounty scam.

I'm believing that gradually, will may start seeing the inclusion of other social media signatures like Facebook, LinkedIn, medium, article, videos, blogs and many more, coming up in both bounty section and service. I'm sure that hunters will prefer social media signature than the scam going on in the board.

I guess one reason that we are seeing that Twitter campaign is because of the audit which takes care of non real followers of an account. So if your Twitter account isn't made of real followers, you stand no chance of being selected. The audit is surely to check out accounts with fake followers and that is also good to stop scamming.

I hope that this will be applicable to all the bounty campaign especially in signature campaigns because mostly of the bounty hunters are using the forum as way of earning as well and also I am hoping that there will be one day a regulator group that will monitor and regulate the entry of very suspicious bounty campaigns so that it will be a very good way also to help us bounty hunters.

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I fear it will not when there are alot of Noob promoters out there.. promoting just any project they can find on this forum... as long as their scam projects out there... bounty scam will not go away

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Quote from: Jackl87 on September 21, 2020, 03:55:22 PM

Bounty scam will never go away. As long as there is money to make, people will always try to make as much as possible even if it is by cheating.
I am currently part of a signature campaign and it already happened that someone just copied my Bitcointalk profile name and link and applied again for the same signature bounty but with another ETH adress of course.
I was lucky that i found it myself and reported it to the bounty manager before i was banned or something.

Good for you that you have found it earlier. I also think that bounty scam will always be here even if there will be new changes in the crypto market, scammers will still find new ways to chase the money of other people. The legends here may have learned from those bounty scamming but for those who have newly entered the crypto market, they will surely be the target of those scammers.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on September 21, 2020, 03:55:22 PM

Bounty scam will never go away. As long as there is money to make, people will always try to make as much as possible even if it is by cheating.
I am currently part of a signature campaign and it already happened that someone just copied my Bitcointalk profile name and link and applied again for the same signature bounty but with another ETH adress of course.
I was lucky that i found it myself and reported it to the bounty manager before i was banned or something.

How is it possible username and profile link must be the same, of course multiple. But I will check from the next time I join. You thought it was right, cheaters are always trying to take the opportunity of the current situation like now DeFi hype. In a few days, so many scammers will start scam DeFi projects. Actually, we can't minimize the whole situation.

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twitter campaigns that pays in btc are already been there ever since before and not just by this month or this year but bounty scam are also been there , twitter or some sort of social media campaigns did not totally solve them . social media campaigns that pays in btc are short duration only so if those were gone people will go back applying on bounties again .

twitter campaign on service board have taken a long rest before but they only bring it back maybe because they want to clear the reputation of twitter in regards to the hacking and scamming that happen on the said platform

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This is actually good for hunters. They are sure that they are getting paid after their work even though the project may get closed after the long run. Just like the twitter audit, I would love to see bitcointalk forum audit to see if any scammer is out there. This will be beneficial to all.

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Bounty scam will never go away. As long as there is money to make, people will always try to make as much as possible even if it is by cheating.
I am currently part of a signature campaign and it already happened that someone just copied my Bitcointalk profile name and link and applied again for the same signature bounty but with another ETH adress of course.
I was lucky that i found it myself and reported it to the bounty manager before i was banned or something.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 21, 2020, 02:39:30 PM

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I recently did a campaign.I cam there for 4 weeks and got the payment of 12$ and the minimum 20$ dollars required to be kept in the web account.As such I think it is a silent scam.In this way, innocent hunters are being deceived.

This 12$ you are talking has nothing to do with the scam. This is all about demand. If the project is demanded, the dollar equivalent of your bounty earning would be more. But the fact that they ask a deposit of 20$ is suspicious. Did they name a reason why these 20$ must be kept on the account?

The pandemic made it worse that people will take less fees as long as its not a scam. This is fair than spending weeks of promoting a project but recieves nothing in the end because its a scam.

The users who joined the altcoin bounty campaigns are the ones expecting the project isn't scam and that prices could one day go up which is why some of them even hold their tokens, not selling while the price is lesss than what they expect. Ultimately lose it all.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 19, 2020, 07:07:18 AM

You're make it complicated, it's still social media campaign as we see in bounty program... It just different on the payment.

Social media campaign in service section is paid with Bitcoin only, while social media campaign in bounty section is paid from the project coin/token or other altcoin nor stablecoin.

Of course people will prefer in Bitcoin payment, but it doesn't mean it will stop scam project on bounty section. Even if they participate in service section, it also doesn't mean they can't participate in bounty section too because they can join all social media campaign if they want as long they didn't cheating.

Yep, it is a nice change to see some social media campaigns paying in bitcoin similar to what happens with signature campaigns, however if you take a look there are many members wearing signatures from bounty campaigns that pay with those useless tokens because they still believe they can get profits with them and they have not disappeared despite bitcoin signature campaigns being here for years, so it does not make sense that bounty campaigns will suddenly disappear just because a few social media campaigns that actually care about their participants have appeared.

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I recently did a campaign.I cam there for 4 weeks and got the payment of 12$ and the minimum 20$ dollars required to be kept in the web account.As such I think it is a silent scam.In this way, innocent hunters are being deceived.

This 12$ you are talking has nothing to do with the scam. This is all about demand. If the project is demanded, the dollar equivalent of your bounty earning would be more. But the fact that they ask a deposit of 20$ is suspicious. Did they name a reason why these 20$ must be kept on the account?

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Quote from: Gozie51 on September 19, 2020, 06:53:30 AM

Just recently we are beginning to have some Twitter campaign giving hunters reward in btc in the service section. This is one sure way to take off this muster that seem like a cancer called bounty scam.

I'm believing that gradually, will may start seeing the inclusion of other social media signatures like Facebook, LinkedIn, medium, article, videos, blogs and many more, coming up in both bounty section and service. I'm sure that hunters will prefer social media signature than the scam going on in the board.

I guess one reason that we are seeing that Twitter campaign is because of the audit which takes care of non real followers of an account. So if your Twitter account isn't made of real followers, you stand no chance of being selected. The audit is surely to check out accounts with fake followers and that is also good to stop scamming.

To be frank,many of the bounty campaign scam people at the end of the work.Some of them paying with their tokens as promised at the end of token sale.Sometimes the price of token reduced to half or 1/4 of the price before the distribution of tokens.You should do some background check of bounty,before you get into it.

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As long as people keep asking for twitter or whatever for bounty there will be fake ones. Believe me because it is quite easy to build a twitter account if you want to and with real people as well.

I remember one day I wanted to have a full crypto twitter account and in a week I had over 2k followers, the trick was I followed over 100k people, you do not even have to have full crypto followers, you just need real people to follow you and the best way to do that is follow them, obviously I focused on crypto people mainly but I did followed some celebs which caused people who follow them to follow me as well. You can do this with 10 accounts and at worst in a month you have 10 crypto accounts on twitter, all real. You can't stop people who want to fool the system.

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Quote from: Zazzu on September 21, 2020, 12:31:53 AM

The thing is that most of the payment's rates of signature bounties have been decreased and that's because some high ranks members get satisfied by maybe 15$ per week!
that's not even enough for the fee I don't know why they do it?it hurts signature bounties payments.

This is true and also funny and it has started becoming a trend in the service section but IMO, is still a better choice compared to being scammed for 12 weeks lol . If you have not witnessed a bounty telegram group you belong making a disappearance Grin

you might not know a story on such.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 21, 2020, 08:51:39 AM

Quote from: babygun on September 21, 2020, 07:51:15 AM

Scams have existed in the past and will exist in the future, nothing you can do about that. It is in the nature of the people to scam.
If you look at the bounty section today and compare to 2 years, than the number of bounty projects have dropped a lot. I don't participate anymore in any bounty that pays in altcoin because the chance that this new coins get listed on a major exchange is extremely low.

Scams still exist today because the bounty hunters are ready to join shady campaigns with exploitative conditions. A few basic precautions could have drastically cut down the number of scam campaigns. This includes keeping the funds in escrow and not allowing a change in the T&C later. But even these proposals have been ignored by the project teams and the campaign managers.

Escrow will helps a lot if that will be implemented in any bounty campaigns, managers who are going to accept the responsivities
should be more aware as hunters needs being paid after their participations, if they work accordingly they are entitled to get the
promise rewards.
Proposal should be considered and if the team / developers are serious there's no problem accepting it.

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Quote from: bigcash2011 on September 20, 2020, 03:16:44 PM

Quote from: Gozie51 on September 19, 2020, 06:53:30 AM

Just recently we are beginning to have some Twitter campaign giving hunters reward in btc in the service section. This is one sure way to take off this muster that seem like a cancer called bounty scam.

I'm believing that gradually, will may start seeing the inclusion of other social media signatures like Facebook, LinkedIn, medium, article, videos, blogs and many more, coming up in both bounty section and service. I'm sure that hunters will prefer social media signature than the scam going on in the board.

I guess one reason that we are seeing that Twitter campaign is because of the audit which takes care of non real followers of an account. So if your Twitter account isn't made of real followers, you stand no chance of being selected. The audit is surely to check out accounts with fake followers and that is also good to stop scamming.

I think slowly the trend will change and the campaigns will have to pay in real money to hunters for the job done, just like there is trillion dollar freelancing market where people do gigs and get paid in real money similarly bounty hunting can be like that. Unfortunately due to a lot of scams, low payouts and intentional delays and denials from many campaigns and projects the bounty market is under pressure and struggling to survive.
The solution is that hunters should immediately stop promoting suspicious, low quality and fake projects and at the same time the projects should look to pay in real money for the work done.

Bounty hunters and even newbies will have a sign of relief in the sense that those of them that has real twitter followers will earn some decent amount of bitcoin kudos to twitter for bringing in audit, its a good step in the right direction, participating a three btc paying twitter campaign really worth the stress of doing the bounty work for a newbie, I hope to see more of those campaigns in soon in the service section, while the altcoin section will look less attractive to the bounty hunters because those fake projects and scams.

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Quote from: babygun on September 21, 2020, 07:51:15 AM

Scams have existed in the past and will exist in the future, nothing you can do about that. It is in the nature of the people to scam.
If you look at the bounty section today and compare to 2 years, than the number of bounty projects have dropped a lot. I don't participate anymore in any bounty that pays in altcoin because the chance that this new coins get listed on a major exchange is extremely low.

Scams still exist today because the bounty hunters are ready to join shady campaigns with exploitative conditions. A few basic precautions could have drastically cut down the number of scam campaigns. This includes keeping the funds in escrow and not allowing a change in the T&C later. But even these proposals have been ignored by the project teams and the campaign managers.

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