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legendary
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it's crazy but we're probably gonna get 4 more years of trump out of this. Shocked
If there will be enough old pals and fat MAGA hat buddies after the coronavirus then yeah, i think so.
And BTW, as I told you folks, USA always grab number 1, even in the most contamination countries, but impressively in less than 6 hours! God bless the crippled economy
legendary
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USA will be affected in the short term as well, nobody talks about that but they are on an election year, which means that normally they have bunch of other topics to talk about yet here they are not talking about the elections.

the biden campaign has done a good job weaponizing the pandemic response against trump. i think biden is a hack and corporate shill, but this is a pretty good ad: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1242967501442412544

This would only work for Donald Trump because he will not have to face their opponent as much as he would otherwise, plus there was a lot of talks about "blue no matter who" before all of this started but there is a rising number of Bernie voters (I would be if I was American) that decided not to vote for Biden as well and on top of that a lot of time allocated for the upcoming elections are now pure corona as well.

It means basically Trump will most likely win, and when he wins he will spend money and time to make sure companies get paid and that will be temporary solution which will be exactly like today in the future, so the whole nation will be screwed in short and long term.

my gut says you're right---trump will win. presidential approval ratings always rally during crises. trump is now getting his highest approval ratings ever, right as we enter the primary season home stretch. people also prefer red presidents during active threats.

it's crazy but we're probably gonna get 4 more years of trump out of this. Shocked
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USA will be affected in the short term as well, nobody talks about that but they are on an election year, which means that normally they have bunch of other topics to talk about yet here they are not talking about the elections.

This would only work for Donald Trump because he will not have to face their opponent as much as he would otherwise, plus there was a lot of talks about "blue no matter who" before all of this started but there is a rising number of Bernie voters (I would be if I was American) that decided not to vote for Biden as well and on top of that a lot of time allocated for the upcoming elections are now pure corona as well.

It means basically Trump will most likely win, and when he wins he will spend money and time to make sure companies get paid and that will be temporary solution which will be exactly like today in the future, so the whole nation will be screwed in short and long term.
legendary
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This is a very complicated situation, to be honest. First it was China, then Italy, and now it's Spain.
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^^ Look at the "New Cases" and "New Deaths" columns. Right now, it's hard to say what country is going to need more help.
Now wait a minute, where is the MAGA hat?
USA gonna lead the world AGAIN. With new cases 6k-13k daily + huge number of active cases, THE HUGEST + fast growing number of deaths then the situation will be very very bad for them, even worst than Italy and Spain if things continue like that.
People in serious or critical conditions are +2k and knowing that the condition of any apparently healthy one can deteriorate rapidly then things are worse than expected.
/More serious/: USA gonna be the first in number for cases in less than 24h, followed by Italy then China. Total deaths is hard to estimate now since the propagation of the virus in USA is at an early stage, but once the number will pass 100k-200k with many in critical conditions then we will witness how an irresponsible and kiddish Potus has exterminated thousands of citizens!
sr. member
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Which country's government will be the most affected by the COVID-19 global pandemic, and be the first to go bankrupt, and default?
Ofcourse, the countries that are most likely affected by the pandemic of corona virus or covid-19 are the ones who has a huge numbers of people who are infected and died in their population because maybe a lot of business man, politicians, or rich and popular have died due to the virus.
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It seems that this could be a global conspiracy to destroy a certain layer of the world's population.

This is far from this thought or conspiracy. Whose country's old was left behind ....
Some awkwardly people really thought of this conspiracy coz they have this deep imagination and does not bother what happens above the surface, it is too shallow for them to understand.


This is just an epidemic that is ravaging the globe at the moment. So many known diseases today started like this until cure was found. We expect that soon we are going to be free again in our society.
We've been dealt with many pandemics, and this is one of the weakest virus of them all it just so happen that we aren't prepared and surprised by its late discover and now we're running things unprecedentedly.
It's getting serious now with other country and Italy, China seems to be more active since they are the epicenter of the virus and now has a low rate of deaths and cases for about 2 days, So I hope it will continue until a cure is found.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
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I fervently hope that is exactly the case right now while some countries are desperately fighting against COVID-19 and its terrible economic impact more than the rest. Unfortunately, there are some sad indications that a few countries or even a community of countries are leaving others out in these dire times, just when they needed them the most.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/italy-conte-calls-for-eu-crisis-fund-as-coronavirus-death-toll-rises.html
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Countries that are more fiscally sound do not want to have their debt associated with those of highly indebted nations. As a result, the Italian calls are likely to be received with some skepticism.

This is a very complicated situation, to be honest. First it was China, then Italy, and now it's Spain.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/14/coronavirus-eu-abandoning-italy-china-aid/
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One might think that fellow European Union countries would count their blessings and send their Italian friends a few vital supplies, especially since the Italians have asked for it. They have sent nothing.

Below is a quote from the same article:

In a shameful abdication of responsibility, fellow countries in the European Union have failed to give medical assistance and supplies to Italy during an outbreak. China is filling the void.

As I said in my post above, reciprocity, it's working, one way or another.

I am sympathetic to the cry for help made by Italian Prime Minister, but we must understand that other governments should also care about their own citizens in this dangerous and unpredictable situation.
legendary
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Which country's government will be the most affected by the COVID-19 global pandemic, and be the first to go bankrupt, and default?

As always the case, the poorest countries are at the most disadvantageous position.~

Imo, the poorest people are at the most disadvantageous position, and we can find such people in every country.

Regarding the economic impact of the pandemic on various countries' economies, every country will be (and already is) affected big-time. And if one country will suffer much more than others, the international community will help that country to cope with its problems.

The world, with the exception of a few countries, maybe, is no longer a place where some countries are gloating over the calamities in other countries. So, with the current level of reciprocity, on the governmental level, all economics will be affected equally, more or less.

I fervently hope that is exactly the case right now while some countries are desperately fighting against COVID-19 and its terrible economic impact more than the rest. Unfortunately, there are some sad indications that a few countries or even a community of countries are leaving others out in these dire times, just when they needed them the most.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/italy-conte-calls-for-eu-crisis-fund-as-coronavirus-death-toll-rises.html
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Countries that are more fiscally sound do not want to have their debt associated with those of highly indebted nations. As a result, the Italian calls are likely to be received with some skepticism.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/14/coronavirus-eu-abandoning-italy-china-aid/
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One might think that fellow European Union countries would count their blessings and send their Italian friends a few vital supplies, especially since the Italians have asked for it. They have sent nothing.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-aims-better-control-coronavirus-responses/
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EU countries have so far refused Italy's plea for help fighting coronavirus, as national capitals worry that they may need to stockpile face masks and other medical gear to help their own citizens, officials and diplomats said.

I am not saying some countries are gloating over the calamities of others but facing a pandemic which is ever ready to hit all cities and towns of the world, some countries seem to suggest through their actions that in these trying times, to each his own. I hope I am very wrong on this.
sr. member
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Which country's government will be the most affected by the COVID-19 global pandemic, and be the first to go bankrupt, and default?

I believe its going to be INDIA.

(Good God, apologies but practicality says it)

The thing is India is fighting against coronavirus with full power but in the meantime its loosing huge businesses and its economy bursting inside out.
India does't have enough funds in the Reserve Bank of India.

Banks are not allowed to take loan EMI's and other repayments from the customers for next three months or until next notice from the government. Thus, it will lead to loss of bank business as they will have huge set backs.

On the other hand, NSE and BSE are not recovering that effectively at which rate it shall be. Large number of employees have their money in these markets and which they will not getting back soon or will be selling in loss.

Most of the engineering companies have been shut and there is no salaries to employees.

India is also led by huge number of farmers and for them its getting difficult to sell their goods in far locations due to lockdown of transports etc.

Looking at such locked up situation im betting on India followed by Italy.

India is acting really early when compared to Italy, don't compare it to Italy and what you said about banks is true and it doesn't affect a lot for the well-operating banks as they have enough margin and the government will always be there to save the bank at any cost and all these lockdowns will not affect the farmers as it affects other industries since there is no restriction on the essential goods.

All these items agricultural products will fall under essential goods moreover the recent crude price fall will also help the ease of deficit and additional income to the government with increased tax to maintain the fuel prices at the same level which is expected around 36k crore they can spend in this time lets hope for the best.
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It seems that this could be a global conspiracy to destroy a certain layer of the world's population.

This is far from this thought or conspiracy. Whose country's old was left behind ....
This is just an epidemic that is ravaging the globe at the moment. So many known diseases today started like this until cure was found. We expect that soon we are going to be free again in our society.
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I believe it might be from one of the countries in the European Union which already has problems BEFORE the pandemic because if slow economic-growth.
Seems like your prediction is coming to reality now mate because Italy overtakes china now for the counts of dying per day and infected going high each day.

Though also US is suffering from the effect of the virus yet Italy now is asking for help worldwide.

Now we have a clue in which country will be the answer for this thread.

Guys, no one thought about what older people suffer most from coronavirus?  It seems that this virus was specially released to reduce the number of elderly people and seriously ill people who put a heavy burden on the economy of each country.  It seems that this could be a global conspiracy to destroy a certain layer of the world's population.
Actually it is not about the ages but the health of each victims,because nowadays even younger people dying from this pandemic,Here in our country a 35 years old Doctor died from Convid-19 and she has Diabetes.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
Which country's government will be the most affected by the COVID-19 global pandemic, and be the first to go bankrupt, and default?

As always the case, the poorest countries are at the most disadvantageous position.~

Imo, the poorest people are at the most disadvantageous position, and we can find such people in every country.

Regarding the economic impact of the pandemic on various countries' economies, every country will be (and already is) affected big-time. And if one country will suffer much more than others, the international community will help that country to cope with its problems.

The world, with the exception of a few countries, maybe, is no longer a place where some countries are gloating over the calamities in other countries. So, with the current level of reciprocity, on the governmental level, all economics will be affected equally, more or less.
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If we are thinking about the ones who will have the hardest fall then we can only have one candidate and that is the USA. Their stock market are the first ones to fall as early as the first week of February and the situation of the infection back then wasn't that worst compared to what we have now. They are directly hit because the U.S. companies they have also have big factories in China which have shut down because of the infection. Aside from that we can see that the pandemic is just worsening by the day in U.S. and everyday a lot of people are getting infected. I think the U.S. economy will be crippled because of this pandemic and it will depend on how quick they will recover now.
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Italy will be the likely candidate, as it is one of the worst country that is being hit by the virus outside of China. Death toll already surpassed 2,500, and the demographics itself, country has the second-oldest population on earth. And obviously, the younger generation respect their elders in a Catholic country like Italy that's why the spread is unprecedented. And I think we can consider Italy now as ground zero, so it have slowed down their economy in the last month or so.

 
same thoughts I think  economy was slightly alive just cause of tourism and now it stops
legendary
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Which country's government will be the most affected by the COVID-19 global pandemic, and be the first to go bankrupt, and default?

I believe its going to be INDIA.

(Good God, apologies but practicality says it)

The thing is India is fighting against coronavirus with full power but in the meantime its loosing huge businesses and its economy bursting inside out.
India does't have enough funds in the Reserve Bank of India.

Banks are not allowed to take loan EMI's and other repayments from the customers for next three months or until next notice from the government. Thus, it will lead to loss of bank business as they will have huge set backs.

On the other hand, NSE and BSE are not recovering that effectively at which rate it shall be. Large number of employees have their money in these markets and which they will not getting back soon or will be selling in loss.

Most of the engineering companies have been shut and there is no salaries to employees.

India is also led by huge number of farmers and for them its getting difficult to sell their goods in far locations due to lockdown of transports etc.

Looking at such locked up situation im betting on India followed by Italy.


I believe not. I was told that India imposed/implemented the strictest lockdown, more than any other country in the world, China included.

We'll find out which country soon, wait two months.
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I guess you can read about the Corona Pandemic from here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/world-map.html

But I don't think that will make the country is going to bankrupt because I am sure that every government will try to cure the people before it infected more people while they still trying to manage their economy.
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Guys, no one thought about what older people suffer most from coronavirus?  It seems that this virus was specially released to reduce the number of elderly people and seriously ill people who put a heavy burden on the economy of each country.  It seems that this could be a global conspiracy to destroy a certain layer of the world's population.
legendary
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I find it hard to guess that and to be honest, do not want to make a bad thing for a country and because with this pandemic at least every country has its sympathy to make many donations and that is a form of proof, if every country wants an economy that remains good when conditions are alarming because of this coronavirus. At the same time we know that China was the country with the most cases until finally Italy became the highest case, but even we can see that with the great effort that continues to be done in China there is at least a decrease in cases and hopefully it can be done in other countries as well.
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No shock that everyone would say Italy, there was absolutely nothing going on there anyway, they were never a powerhouse in the economy department, they were always in debt and they were basically a nation with full on vacation all the time. Think of all the things Italy sells to world, there are not all that many, at least nowhere near the huge nations, so they were left behind anyway.

Now with all of this, they will be doing even worse, there will be no recovery from this all that quickly, however this is literally why IMF exists and this is why EU exists. What will happen is Italy will be in big debt, big trouble, economy will be horrible. However they will get some loans from IMF, they will get some money from Europe as well, everyone will share and they will use that money to revitalize the economy.
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The American stock market has lost a lot of value, and small enterprises have been injured, the rate of virus spread is very high in Latin countries such as Spain and Italy. The whole world is affected by this virus, but some countries will be more affected.
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