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December 04, 2017, 08:28:20 AM
The true religion can be intended to create people a common goal and principles of life...but at the moment in my opinion there is no true religion...there are no correct interpretations of the scriptures, there are no qualified priests (they are few and hard to find), therefore now religion is needed only for the management and manipulation of people
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December 04, 2017, 06:54:26 AM
I'm an atheist and have the following standpoint:

 - All religions are hoaxes, making people belive in non-existing gods.

Religions serve the following purposes:

1. Making people have some comfort in their lives, having something else than themselves to pray to and look up to. This is mostly culturrally dependent,
most people adhere to the religion were they grew up, and what was ingrained in them from early childhood.

2. To keep uneducated people in control.

3. To keep power and control in a central position.

If religion was all about love to your God, and it was all a mental thing, there would be no need for churches, and all accessories that goes with a religion.

It's sad that a God-fearing man goes regularily to church to get closer to his maker. He could've been just as close to his God in his couch at home.

Many religious entities collect money, and are rather greedy, there are internal battles about power and control, just think of the Vatican.

I think it's rather sad that in 2012, so many people put their belief in something that doesn't exist. You may pray, and you may feel that your prayers were heard,
and things turn for the better in your life, but most of the time, the prayers are futile, and the only one that can change anything in your life is yourself.

States need to separate themselves from religion, and any religious society needs to take care of itself. Many religious societies does serve a good purpose in their
municipality, and there's nothing wrong with that,  and I do respect anyone that has their faith, but I don't think there's any God of any sorts, and people need to take
responsibility for their own lives.

Will the earth ever come to a point where people are so educated that they understand that science is the only true answer, and that everything else is fairytales ?

As much as I respect any Christian or any devoted religious person from any other religion (I may think his belief is a joke, but I would never say it to his face to force a confrontation in disrespect), I don't think any religions should have any special protection under the law.

Part of the problem is that Religion is so ingrained into the culture of most countries, that many people don't even question it.

Education will put the power in the hands of the people to learn about the world around them, and will remove the power of the leaders of their religion over them.

As an atheist, I don't think your religion defines whether you're a good person or not, that's more down to the person itself, and the values you've been taught in your upbringing, and what you've learned through your education.

Now, with the recent uproar about the 'Innocence of Muslims'-movie, people shouldn't get upset about it. If they don't like it, they should simply ignore it, and don't speak of it. Killing people, making riots etc. and claim that it's because of this movie, this is not right. People are always responsible for what they do.

If I were a Christian, and someone mocked my religion and called me a religious fool, and I got angry and burned down their house, that would be completely unacceptable by me, and I would need to take the full penalty for it.

Some people say we should not provoke 'islam' through cartoons, movies etc. And this may seem like the easy way out. But what if we continously bombarded Islam with this material, would they keep rioting every day of the week, every week, every month and every year, or would they finally sit down and say to themselves: "I'm tired of fighting, I can be a good muslim, no matter what any people say about my religion".

Islam doesn't receive more goodwill by having it's followers react like this, I would think most sivilized people just seeing this for what it is; outright crimes. Also I think a lot of the people that we see rioting in the streets, are only using this movie as an excuse for acting like they do.

Is there a single other Religion in the world were the members would've reacted like this over a movie ?

What do you all think ?

I disagree for me I think that the function of religion is to provide people with common ground a purpose. Religion is not hhe building or the place or the name it is a group of people with the same beliefs who are united in one purpose and clarity

No it's not. It was simply invented because people didn't have answers for many different phenomena and they had to come up with something. It's as simple as that.
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December 03, 2017, 11:24:00 PM
Obey their creators, folow their rules, mass control.
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December 03, 2017, 11:22:24 PM
I'm an atheist and have the following standpoint:

 - All religions are hoaxes, making people belive in non-existing gods.

Religions serve the following purposes:

1. Making people have some comfort in their lives, having something else than themselves to pray to and look up to. This is mostly culturrally dependent,
most people adhere to the religion were they grew up, and what was ingrained in them from early childhood.

2. To keep uneducated people in control.

3. To keep power and control in a central position.

If religion was all about love to your God, and it was all a mental thing, there would be no need for churches, and all accessories that goes with a religion.

It's sad that a God-fearing man goes regularily to church to get closer to his maker. He could've been just as close to his God in his couch at home.

Many religious entities collect money, and are rather greedy, there are internal battles about power and control, just think of the Vatican.

I think it's rather sad that in 2012, so many people put their belief in something that doesn't exist. You may pray, and you may feel that your prayers were heard,
and things turn for the better in your life, but most of the time, the prayers are futile, and the only one that can change anything in your life is yourself.

States need to separate themselves from religion, and any religious society needs to take care of itself. Many religious societies does serve a good purpose in their
municipality, and there's nothing wrong with that,  and I do respect anyone that has their faith, but I don't think there's any God of any sorts, and people need to take
responsibility for their own lives.

Will the earth ever come to a point where people are so educated that they understand that science is the only true answer, and that everything else is fairytales ?

As much as I respect any Christian or any devoted religious person from any other religion (I may think his belief is a joke, but I would never say it to his face to force a confrontation in disrespect), I don't think any religions should have any special protection under the law.

Part of the problem is that Religion is so ingrained into the culture of most countries, that many people don't even question it.

Education will put the power in the hands of the people to learn about the world around them, and will remove the power of the leaders of their religion over them.

As an atheist, I don't think your religion defines whether you're a good person or not, that's more down to the person itself, and the values you've been taught in your upbringing, and what you've learned through your education.

Now, with the recent uproar about the 'Innocence of Muslims'-movie, people shouldn't get upset about it. If they don't like it, they should simply ignore it, and don't speak of it. Killing people, making riots etc. and claim that it's because of this movie, this is not right. People are always responsible for what they do.

If I were a Christian, and someone mocked my religion and called me a religious fool, and I got angry and burned down their house, that would be completely unacceptable by me, and I would need to take the full penalty for it.

Some people say we should not provoke 'islam' through cartoons, movies etc. And this may seem like the easy way out. But what if we continously bombarded Islam with this material, would they keep rioting every day of the week, every week, every month and every year, or would they finally sit down and say to themselves: "I'm tired of fighting, I can be a good muslim, no matter what any people say about my religion".

Islam doesn't receive more goodwill by having it's followers react like this, I would think most sivilized people just seeing this for what it is; outright crimes. Also I think a lot of the people that we see rioting in the streets, are only using this movie as an excuse for acting like they do.

Is there a single other Religion in the world were the members would've reacted like this over a movie ?

What do you all think ?

I disagree for me I think that the function of religion is to provide people with common ground a purpose. Religion is not hhe building or the place or the name it is a group of people with the same beliefs who are united in one purpose and clarity
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December 03, 2017, 11:09:43 PM
Religion is a cultural universal because it fulfills several basic functions within human societies. It is a basic requirement of group life. In sociological terms, these include both manifest and latent functions. Among the manifest (open and stated) functions of religion are included defining the spiritual world and giving meaning to the divine.Religion provides an explanation for events that seem difficult to understand. By contrast, latent functions or religion are unintended, covert, or hidden. Functionalists suggest that religion is a requirement for society and individual both because it serves both manifest and latent functions
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December 03, 2017, 10:44:19 PM
Sebagai sumber pedoman hidup dan keyakinan bagi individu maupun kelompok yang mengatur tata cara hubungan manusia dengan tuhan dan manusia dengan tuhan
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December 03, 2017, 10:24:24 PM
believe in God or not is a choice of each person, but if you ask the function of religion, here is my opinion.
Religion is one of the principles of belief that every human being must have to trust God in their lives. Not only that, individually the religion is to guide human life in wading through their daily life. However, when viewed from a group or society, how do we understand the religion in the life of the community? According to Prof. Dr. H. Jalaluddin in his book Psychology of Religion helps us understand some of the functions of religion in society, among others:

Juridical religious teaching (law) serves as an Education that tells or invites and forbids that must be obeyed so that the individual adherents to be good and right, and accustomed to the good and right according to the teachings of their respective religions.

Wherever humans are, he always wants himself safe. The salvation given by religion includes the life of the world and the hereafter.
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December 03, 2017, 05:16:52 PM
there are so many functions of religion
1 Religion provides mental peace:
Human life is uncertain. He struggles for his survival amidst the uncertainties, insecurities and dangers, Some-times he feels helplessness. It is the religion which consoles and encourages him in all such time of crisis. Religion gives right shelter to him. He gets mental peace and emotional support. It encourages him to face his life and problems.
2. It inculcates social virtues:
Religion promotes the major social virtues like truth, honesty, non-violence, service, love, discipline etc. A follower of the religions internalizes these virtues and becomes disciplined citizen of the society
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December 03, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
Religion had a purpose long ago now it's just a waste of money. A bunch of pedophiles and delusional people. It's totally useless and we don't need it, I'm pretty sure we would be better without it.
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December 03, 2017, 04:10:02 PM
I think any of the existing religions help people to calm down and come to terms with reality. Religious people also take death like some usual event, they are less angry with people.
The main importance of religion is really to help Man to find inner peace and with inner peace, they are able to live in harmony with themselves as well as people in society. Religion in that sense is to help promote peace.
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December 03, 2017, 03:53:49 PM
I think any of the existing religions help people to calm down and come to terms with reality. Religious people also take death like some usual event, they are less angry with people.
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December 03, 2017, 04:24:04 AM
I shared my thoughts on the function of religion in another thread in my empiric argument for religion. Here are my thoughts.

Empiric Argument for Religion

1) Belief in God is logical in that the belief is internally consistent and cannot be falsified. This conclusion can be derived in numerous ways one of which is via the application of incompleteness theorem.
See: The #1 Mathematical Discovery of the 20th Century

2) All knowledge ultimately traces back to assumed axioms. Without knowledge, scientific enquiry including empiric enquiry is meaningless and we can’t analyse the world around us.

3) Our fundamental metaphysical first axioms are therefore a critical step in the formation of a sound empirical model of the universe and our place within it.
See: Metaphysical Attitudes

4) Human progress and civilization requires the growth of knowledge and is ultimately cooperation dependent. Our first premises and axioms directly impact the degree of cooperation that the system can support.
See: Superrationality and the Infinite

5) Competing first axioms such as nihilism may grant "freedom" to do whatever you want but for humanity as a whole this is an illusion and such axioms reduce overall freedom.
See: Freedom and God

6) Thus the first axiom of God is not only largely responsible for the progress we have made so far it in all is likely necessary for continued progress.
See: Religion and Progress
and
See: Faith and Future

7) Finally and least important accepting the first axiom of God appears to be correlated with good health.  
See: Health and Religion

8 ) For these reasons accepting the first axiom of God is a superior choice for the empiricist then accepting the first axiom of nihilism or refusing to define ones metaphysics.

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December 03, 2017, 04:14:37 AM
for me the one of the function of religion is to gather people, and to teach the things that their religion is teaching.
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December 03, 2017, 01:48:22 AM
Functions of religion are diverse, including not very good ones. There must be a definite border, which can not be crossed. This also applies to religion, which now, in some countries, reaches fanaticism.
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December 02, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
There a lot to say about this topic; you can find tens of reasons for religion, but the main one is simple: we need it
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December 02, 2017, 04:31:07 PM
Why do you help others then?
Main function of religion is to understand that our existence and life was from someone more powerful than us human and we mist understand that we will be a great help to others as we ourselves has been good and follow His teaching as preached relatively on our chosen religion.
You don't need to have any religion to know that though. It should be simple. Live, love, respect. There are so many religions popping out like mushrooms and all these only succeed in dividing people apart

I agree on you here. We are here to do good things and everyone is happy. Selfish people destroys humanity.

Well for me religion divides us and makes us feel weak.
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December 02, 2017, 12:46:10 PM
Religion happen in every part of the world, which means that it must be a hardware function embedded in our brains. We will need an evolutionary step forwards to overcome it.
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December 02, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Why do you help others then?
Main function of religion is to understand that our existence and life was from someone more powerful than us human and we mist understand that we will be a great help to others as we ourselves has been good and follow His teaching as preached relatively on our chosen religion.
You don't need to have any religion to know that though. It should be simple. Live, love, respect. There are so many religions popping out like mushrooms and all these only succeed in dividing people apart
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December 02, 2017, 10:35:41 AM
Religion is an organized thing and it helps build and develop culture, tradition and practices of a certain group of people. It is mainly based on what they believe. It defines who their God is, their morality and purpose for existing in this world.
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December 02, 2017, 04:19:02 AM
Why do you help others then?
Main function of religion is to understand that our existence and life was from someone more powerful than us human and we mist understand that we will be a great help to others as we ourselves has been good and follow His teaching as preached relatively on our chosen religion.
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