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June 02, 2024, 03:43:47 PM
Well, of course, the war begins in order to earn more money and bring some countries out of the crisis. The defense industry begins to operate, high energy prices and at the same time a decrease in the number of people. Some countries make weapons, other countries buy them and spend a lot of money on it. We see all this all the time. Heads of state decide global issues and yet no one takes human life into account. For the sake of other people's interests, a large number of people, children, die. This is the world economy!
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June 02, 2024, 09:41:10 AM
So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. SadBTC


I really support what you say, because the stability of a country is certainly everyone's dream. If a condition occurs where a country is hit by war due to a conflict, whether internal conflict or external conflict, then the war will of course have a big impact on the country's economy and taxation. Prolonged war conditions can cause industry to stop working, because it is vulnerable to poor security conditions. As a result, many people don't work and don't earn money. Poor security conditions of course make investors prefer to withdraw their investments and move to other, safer countries rather than staying in war-torn countries. This condition will also be followed by the collapse of the capital market.
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June 02, 2024, 08:42:34 AM
If the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already been almost destroyed and they are on the verge of collapse, then the Russian occupiers will soon be in Kyiv? Or at least in Kharkov, which is located relatively close to the border with Russia? Taking into account the fact that the Russian army is now actively storming the Kharkov direction, then in a month or two Russian soldiers should at least capture Kharkov, right? But I think that even by the end of the year Russia will not be able to capture even Kharkov.
Yes, they are soon going to enter Kyiv and not only Kyiv, possibly even Lviv eventually. The main flaw of your logic is that you're obviously relying on historical events, something that has been happening until now. But you're ignoring some serious factors which affect the war, main one being the lack of troops. You seriously think that all the way to Kyiv there are going to be only Bakhmuts and Avdiivkas? Don't be naïve! There will be no fighting going on because there will be noone left to fight. Those who wanted to fight Russians are long dead, there are only alcoholics, elderly and guys who were caught in the street and sent to Donbas as cannon fodder. These guys are surrendering en masse, using any opportunity. This will soon lead to the front line completely collapsing. There will be complete units surrendering or even taking Russia's side. Fierce battles are over, it's a thing of the past. Russians are going to seize entire regions without a single shot.    

As for Russia’s possible war against NATO, everything depends on the aggressive appetites of Putin’s Russia. After all, Russia is currently attacking, not NATO countries. Russia, as a nuclear superpower, cannot lose a war? But the USA and France also have their own nuclear arsenals and then they also cannot lose?
No, nothing depends on Russia, everything is up to what NATO is going to do (the US will make them do). Yes, also France and the US can't lose the war if some country is going to attack their territory they are going to use their nukes 100%.

NATO has not yet lost a single soldier in this confrontation. At the same time, Russia’s losses in manpower and military equipment are simply colossal. A few more years of such a war and NATO soldiers will be able to simply march and enter Moscow without any resistance.
Huge pile of BS. NATO has lost hundreds if not thousands of soldiers. And not even regular privates but colonels and majors. Mostly military advisors killed in air raids. Then there are some NATO soldiers who left their service in the army and went to Ukraine as "volunteers". Many of them were KIA.

As to the Russian losses reported by AFU, you surely know they're a lie. AFU have started to realize that they made a mistake by reporting these fake, exagerrated loss stats because soon this number is going to exceed the total size of the Russian army and they will look stupid.

NATO soldiers will only enter Moscow in your wet dreams. Have you heard of the "dead hand"? Google it, in short, Russia will be able to launch nukes even with every single Russian killed.  Grin
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June 02, 2024, 06:57:29 AM
The other two ideas aren't as straightforward as true or false. Statement number two is true: while war often causes a drop in the value of stocks, this is frequently not the case. during the seasons of conflict, commodities may rise because buyers believe industries that give services and products to military personnel are more secure. Finally, while war usually results in price increases, it is not a given conclusion. It relies on a number of circumstances, including the seriousness of the war and the country's general financial situation.

If war started between two countries then there is an increase in the price of materials and the reason behind this rise is that the route of export and imports will cease. Sometimes war stops immediately without creating more dangerous situations so the conditions become normal.

War has no significant impacts on the country's situation and it is not only a matter of worries for the country where war happens but other countries also suffer a lot therefore we should think about every kind of situation with a calm mind.
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June 02, 2024, 03:18:38 AM
So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. SadBTC

It doesn't really matter if you compare it to BTC, if it does, it's just a small ripple in the ocean. When the price goes up, all the bad news disappears by itself. Does anyone care anymore about the issue of war when the BTC price rises??

Investors will focus first on what they invest in, war matters are not their special concern.
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June 02, 2024, 02:16:42 AM
So True The Impact of the War on global economy is really bad. It becomes the cause of high oil price which increase inflation on goods and energy. SadBTC
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June 02, 2024, 12:37:33 AM

Russia vs NATO war means WW3 and eventually the nuclear apocalypse. Russia as a global nuclear superpower simply can't lose.
Ukraine, with its drones, is now actively destroying Russia’s nuclear shield, which are long-range target detection radar stations.

Thus, on May 24, the Voronezh-DM radar station was hit near the city of Armavir in the Kuban, which is located 1,800 kilometers from the Ukrainian border.

On May 27, Ukrainian power steering drones hit the Voronezh-M long-range target detection radar station, which is located near Orsk, Orenburg region of Russia.

On the night of May 27-28, in occupied Lugansk, the Nebo-M radar, which was located on the territory of the flight school airfield, was hit.

On the night of May 29-30, SBU drones destroyed the Sky-SVU radar, worth about $100 million, which was installed near Armyansk in the occupied Crimea.

Thus, Ukraine shows its capabilities and indicates likely preparation for future operations. Their destruction may also mean further radical actions by Ukraine’s partners in the event of Russia’s use of nuclear weapons. This may well be clearing a corridor for American Tomahawk cruise missiles, which can be launched from the Mediterranean Sea or the Indian Ocean.

With such strikes, Ukraine, perhaps even at the instigation of Western advisers, shows the people around Putin, and those involved in the strategic defense of Russia, that they do not have any “strategic shield.” That all their nuclear targets are vulnerable. There are only 12 federal nuclear weapons storage facilities in Russia, the data of which is known to everyone. If you hit them at the same time, then Russia will not have even 5% of its nuclear potential left.
One Voronezh radar covers approximately 6,000 kilometers around itself. There are ten of these in Russia, several of which have already been hit by Ukrainian drones. If other radars are destroyed, Russia simply will not see what will happen around it.

Under such circumstances, Russia may well lose a nuclear war.
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This thread was created since September 23, 2023, 06:03:11 PM and today is the first time I am seeing it. War between two countries do not have too much effect in the global economy. But it would have a serious effect in the two countries that fighting and also in the regional. It is the regional effect that will affect the nearby countries. It will not even have effect in the exchange market and stock market. Examples. The cost of living in the world is not cost by Russia and Ukraine war or it is not cased by Israel and Palestine war but the greediness of the State Governments in the world.
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June 01, 2024, 03:44:39 PM
I don't think war will ever have any positive impact on the world economy development, instead it will make things go hard for the people in the affected regions before they will be able to get their way back on track in sustaining from the injury, we cannot predict the consequence to which what war could effect on us, because everyone will virtually be affected at this and there is nothing we can do about it, but the best way is to avoid it from happening.
Certainly wars do have any positive effect on an economy as long as there is a negative effect of war there will certainly be a positive effect, from what i have learnt in high school I believe it's true that wars could burst an economy. it's said that after world war II,  the US experienced an economic growth and even technological advancement, from this we can say that wars also have positive effect just like when a house is destroyed through an economy is revived the new constructions of roads, houses etc would advance.
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June 01, 2024, 03:15:05 PM
At the same time, Ukraine’s allies admit that they are not doing enough to ensure that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have the opportunity to push the invaders out of their territory. Therefore, it is no coincidence that 11 states have already recognized Ukraine’s right to strike Russian military targets with their weapons. An opinion is also emerging that if Russia manages to achieve significant success on the Ukrainian front, then the army of European countries will be forced to openly help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. Therefore, indeed, Russia’s continuation of the war with Ukraine increases the likelihood of direct military clashes with NATO.
If you haven't spotted already, Russia has already achieved significant success, by capturing numerous cities and almost completely destroying AFU. Russia vs NATO war means WW3 and eventually the nuclear apocalypse. Russia as a global nuclear superpower simply can't lose. Btw, not all NATO members are willing to fight Russia, for example Turkey announced they are not going to take part in any NATO offensive in Ukraine.

Putin’s Russia still has a choice: continue military aggression against Ukraine and increase the likelihood of war with NATO, or gradually wind down military operations, admitting that the initial plans to seize Ukraine have completely failed. So far, we see that Russia is frivolously moving towards its own catastrophe with disintegration into several parts.
I'm not sure what Ukrainian trolls see, but I see that Russia is winning this war and AFU on the brink of complete collapse. Cool
If the Ukrainian Armed Forces have already been almost destroyed and they are on the verge of collapse, then the Russian occupiers will soon be in Kyiv? Or at least in Kharkov, which is located relatively close to the border with Russia? Taking into account the fact that the Russian army is now actively storming the Kharkov direction, then in a month or two Russian soldiers should at least capture Kharkov, right? But I think that even by the end of the year Russia will not be able to capture even Kharkov.

As for Russia’s possible war against NATO, everything depends on the aggressive appetites of Putin’s Russia. After all, Russia is currently attacking, not NATO countries. Russia, as a nuclear superpower, cannot lose a war? But the USA and France also have their own nuclear arsenals and then they also cannot lose?

NATO has not yet lost a single soldier in this confrontation. At the same time, Russia’s losses in manpower and military equipment are simply colossal. A few more years of such a war and NATO soldiers will be able to simply march and enter Moscow without any resistance.
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June 01, 2024, 02:00:22 PM
The US and European countries tried to use peacetime methods to solve wartime problems, and now they see that it didn't work. Putin’s Russia continues its aggressive war against Ukraine, increases military tension in Europe, threatening to attack many European countries, especially the Baltic countries, which it considers most vulnerable to attack, and also deliberately creates provocative conflict situations that could well end in a direct military clash with NATO countries as a whole.
Like how exactly is Russia "threatening to attack many European countries"? Any proof/link to source? Oh wait, I've been asking for proof for this claim here in this thread (scroll up several pages) but to no avail.

At the same time, Ukraine’s allies admit that they are not doing enough to ensure that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have the opportunity to push the invaders out of their territory. Therefore, it is no coincidence that 11 states have already recognized Ukraine’s right to strike Russian military targets with their weapons. An opinion is also emerging that if Russia manages to achieve significant success on the Ukrainian front, then the army of European countries will be forced to openly help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. Therefore, indeed, Russia’s continuation of the war with Ukraine increases the likelihood of direct military clashes with NATO.
If you haven't spotted already, Russia has already achieved significant success, by capturing numerous cities and almost completely destroying AFU. Russia vs NATO war means WW3 and eventually the nuclear apocalypse. Russia as a global nuclear superpower simply can't lose. Btw, not all NATO members are willing to fight Russia, for example Turkey announced they are not going to take part in any NATO offensive in Ukraine.

Putin’s Russia still has a choice: continue military aggression against Ukraine and increase the likelihood of war with NATO, or gradually wind down military operations, admitting that the initial plans to seize Ukraine have completely failed. So far, we see that Russia is frivolously moving towards its own catastrophe with disintegration into several parts.
I'm not sure what Ukrainian trolls see, but I see that Russia is winning this war and AFU on the brink of complete collapse. Cool
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The war between NATO and Russia can only break out if NATO will send their troops to Ukraine. Taking into account latest statements made by US sockpuppets France, Baltic countries and Czechia, it's entirely possible. So Russia is simply trying to defend itself from these aggressive US vassals.

The US and European countries tried to use peacetime methods to solve wartime problems, and now they see that it didn't work. Putin’s Russia continues its aggressive war against Ukraine, increases military tension in Europe, threatening to attack many European countries, especially the Baltic countries, which it considers most vulnerable to attack, and also deliberately creates provocative conflict situations that could well end in a direct military clash with NATO countries as a whole.

At the same time, Ukraine’s allies admit that they are not doing enough to ensure that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have the opportunity to push the invaders out of their territory. Therefore, it is no coincidence that 11 states have already recognized Ukraine’s right to strike Russian military targets with their weapons. An opinion is also emerging that if Russia manages to achieve significant success on the Ukrainian front, then the army of European countries will be forced to openly help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. Therefore, indeed, Russia’s continuation of the war with Ukraine increases the likelihood of direct military clashes with NATO.

Putin’s Russia still has a choice: continue military aggression against Ukraine and increase the likelihood of war with NATO, or gradually wind down military operations, admitting that the initial plans to seize Ukraine have completely failed. So far, we see that Russia is frivolously moving towards its own catastrophe with disintegration into several parts.
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Does this mean the US are planning to to declare war on Russia?  Grin

 So, we're going back to same question again: you have zero proof, right?  
Trying to present you and other pro-Russian individuals who support Russia’s war of conquest in Ukraine with evidence of Russia’s plans to start a new war in Europe that would satisfy you is futile. After all, even in Russia itself, these plans are constantly changing depending on the situation on the Ukrainian fronts.

But I would like to draw your attention to the recent report of the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Gerasimov to Putin, which indicates that the likelihood of a war between Russia and NATO countries has now greatly increased, but this is most likely to happen in 2025-2027.

In particular, in this regard, he recommends urgently mobilizing from 200 to 400 thousand people into the Russian troops, and this event must be carried out in the next 2-4 months and no later. Otherwise, as Gerasimov points out, “Russia may lose territory.”
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https://www.dialog.ua/russia/295668_1716827817

We may consider this information unsubstantiated. But NATO countries are closely monitoring the Kremlin's actions and are preparing to take appropriate response measures.

The war between NATO and Russia can only break out if NATO will send their troops to Ukraine. Taking into account latest statements made by US sockpuppets France, Baltic countries and Czechia, it's entirely possible. So Russia is simply trying to defend itself from these aggressive US vassals.

Regarding the drafting of additional troops in Russia, I've heard this a million times from you, DrBeer, Ozero and other retarded Ukrainian trolls. Every other day I see your posts with such predictions. But, as all your claims it appears to be another lie.  Grin
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I don't think war will ever have any positive impact on the world economy development, instead it will make things go hard for the people in the affected regions before they will be able to get their way back on track in sustaining from the injury, we cannot predict the consequence to which what war could effect on us, because everyone will virtually be affected at this and there is nothing we can do about it, but the best way is to avoid it from happening.
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Does this mean the US are planning to to declare war on Russia?  Grin

 So, we're going back to same question again: you have zero proof, right?  
Trying to present you and other pro-Russian individuals who support Russia’s war of conquest in Ukraine with evidence of Russia’s plans to start a new war in Europe that would satisfy you is futile. After all, even in Russia itself, these plans are constantly changing depending on the situation on the Ukrainian fronts.

But I would like to draw your attention to the recent report of the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Gerasimov to Putin, which indicates that the likelihood of a war between Russia and NATO countries has now greatly increased, but this is most likely to happen in 2025-2027.

In particular, in this regard, he recommends urgently mobilizing from 200 to 400 thousand people into the Russian troops, and this event must be carried out in the next 2-4 months and no later. Otherwise, as Gerasimov points out, “Russia may lose territory.”
Source:
https://www.dialog.ua/russia/295668_1716827817

We may consider this information unsubstantiated. But NATO countries are closely monitoring the Kremlin's actions and are preparing to take appropriate response measures.
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So, you have zero proof? Right? I thought so...  Grin
And here is the proof.   A document prepared by the Ministry of Defense appeared on the website of the Russian government, according to which Russia intends to declare part of the water area in the east of the Gulf of Finland, as well as near the cities of Baltiysk and Zelenogradsk in the Kaliningrad region, as its internal sea waters. The 40-year-old resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers regulating the borders in the Baltic Sea is proposed by the Ministry of Defense to be partially “recognized as invalid.”

Unilateral change of existing borders at the expense of the territories of other states or other deterioration of their geographical position actually means a declaration of war on these states. And to whom is Russia actually declaring war?   Finland and one of the Baltic countries. Of course, the possibility cannot be ruled out that Putin, as always, is bluffing. He is used to acting with arrogance and intimidation, but now this could well lead to a full-scale war with NATO, for which Russia is clearly not ready.

https://abn.org.ua/ru/novosti/putin-nachinaet-gibridnuyu-agressiyu-protiv-nato-chto-na-eto-otvetit-severoatlanticheskij-soyuz/

And where is the link to that "top secret" document?  Grin Oh wait, I forgot it only exists in your sick imagination...

Additionally, any kind of document, published or secret is not a declaration of war per se. The US are planning to claim (steal) a huge bulk of Arctic territories, which could raise territorial disputes with Russia and Canada:

Source: https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/us-initiates-extended-continental-shelf-claims

Does this mean the US are planning to to declare war on Russia?  Grin

 So, we're going back to same question again: you have zero proof, right?  
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Oddly enough, it is the war in Ukraine that has dragged on into its third year and failures on the Ukrainian front that can force Putin’s Russia to attack the Baltic countries as well. Russia has long shown that its leadership is completely inadequate and its actions are not particularly amenable to rational logic. These NATO countries are very vulnerable from a geographical point of view to Russia. It will be very difficult for NATO countries to deploy their forces and it will take a very long time. Russia may take such a reckless step to force Europe to negotiate peace with it in Ukraine on its terms.

On the other hand, Russia is very interested in the Suwalki corridor, which is located between Poland and Lithuania and connects Belarus with the Kaliningrad region of Russia. This became very relevant when Sweden and Finland recently became new NATO members and the Baltic Sea effectively became an internal sea of NATO countries. Therefore, the seizure of the Suwalki corridor recently became the subject of conversation between Putin and Lukashenko at their last meeting in Moscow.
So, you have zero proof? Right? I thought so...  Grin
And here is the proof.   A document prepared by the Ministry of Defense appeared on the website of the Russian government, according to which Russia intends to declare part of the water area in the east of the Gulf of Finland, as well as near the cities of Baltiysk and Zelenogradsk in the Kaliningrad region, as its internal sea waters. The 40-year-old resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers regulating the borders in the Baltic Sea is proposed by the Ministry of Defense to be partially “recognized as invalid.”

Unilateral change of existing borders at the expense of the territories of other states or other deterioration of their geographical position actually means a declaration of war on these states. And to whom is Russia actually declaring war?   Finland and one of the Baltic countries. Of course, the possibility cannot be ruled out that Putin, as always, is bluffing. He is used to acting with arrogance and intimidation, but now this could well lead to a full-scale war with NATO, for which Russia is clearly not ready.

https://abn.org.ua/ru/novosti/putin-nachinaet-gibridnuyu-agressiyu-protiv-nato-chto-na-eto-otvetit-severoatlanticheskij-soyuz/
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Oddly enough, it is the war in Ukraine that has dragged on into its third year and failures on the Ukrainian front that can force Putin’s Russia to attack the Baltic countries as well. Russia has long shown that its leadership is completely inadequate and its actions are not particularly amenable to rational logic. These NATO countries are very vulnerable from a geographical point of view to Russia. It will be very difficult for NATO countries to deploy their forces and it will take a very long time. Russia may take such a reckless step to force Europe to negotiate peace with it in Ukraine on its terms.

On the other hand, Russia is very interested in the Suwalki corridor, which is located between Poland and Lithuania and connects Belarus with the Kaliningrad region of Russia. This became very relevant when Sweden and Finland recently became new NATO members and the Baltic Sea effectively became an internal sea of NATO countries. Therefore, the seizure of the Suwalki corridor recently became the subject of conversation between Putin and Lukashenko at their last meeting in Moscow.
So, you have zero proof? Right? I thought so...  Grin
And what evidence do you need and most importantly, what do you consider appropriate evidence. Do you want me to publish secret documents from the relevant Kremlin offices about plans to seize the Suwalki corridor and its timing? But even then you will call it fake.

Let's remember that until the last day of the large-scale attack on Ukraine in 2024, Putin assured at all official levels that he was not going to attack Ukraine. And in the appearances of “little green men” in Ukrainian Crimea back in 2014, he also did not recognize Russian soldiers for a long time and admitted this after a long time, when such denial was stupid and pointed to Putin’s deceitful nature. The same thing happened with the appearance of Russian soldiers on the border between the so-called DPR and LPR and Ukraine. At all levels, Russia declared that “they are not there,” for which Russians there began to be called “ichtamnets.”

Therefore, Putin’s Russia will not recognize the fact of preparation of such an attack and will deny it in every possible way, even if the facts of such preparation become obvious. Europe and NATO already know this and are working on various scenarios for such an attack, and most importantly, they are actually preparing for it.

NATO or BRICS are like a pack of wolves. If their leader is weak, everything falls apart. It is a slow decline but so far whoever is winning means they are the stronger pack that will dominate in an area.

I have seen both propaganda of each side, and all there is that is obvious is that only Antony Blinken travels from one country to another while the world is burning and him sings Rockin in the Free World in a Kyiv bar.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_oVdz1oNc8
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Oddly enough, it is the war in Ukraine that has dragged on into its third year and failures on the Ukrainian front that can force Putin’s Russia to attack the Baltic countries as well. Russia has long shown that its leadership is completely inadequate and its actions are not particularly amenable to rational logic. These NATO countries are very vulnerable from a geographical point of view to Russia. It will be very difficult for NATO countries to deploy their forces and it will take a very long time. Russia may take such a reckless step to force Europe to negotiate peace with it in Ukraine on its terms.

On the other hand, Russia is very interested in the Suwalki corridor, which is located between Poland and Lithuania and connects Belarus with the Kaliningrad region of Russia. This became very relevant when Sweden and Finland recently became new NATO members and the Baltic Sea effectively became an internal sea of NATO countries. Therefore, the seizure of the Suwalki corridor recently became the subject of conversation between Putin and Lukashenko at their last meeting in Moscow.
So, you have zero proof? Right? I thought so...  Grin
And what evidence do you need and most importantly, what do you consider appropriate evidence. Do you want me to publish secret documents from the relevant Kremlin offices about plans to seize the Suwalki corridor and its timing? But even then you will call it fake.

Let's remember that until the last day of the large-scale attack on Ukraine in 2024, Putin assured at all official levels that he was not going to attack Ukraine. And in the appearances of “little green men” in Ukrainian Crimea back in 2014, he also did not recognize Russian soldiers for a long time and admitted this after a long time, when such denial was stupid and pointed to Putin’s deceitful nature. The same thing happened with the appearance of Russian soldiers on the border between the so-called DPR and LPR and Ukraine. At all levels, Russia declared that “they are not there,” for which Russians there began to be called “ichtamnets.”

Therefore, Putin’s Russia will not recognize the fact of preparation of such an attack and will deny it in every possible way, even if the facts of such preparation become obvious. Europe and NATO already know this and are working on various scenarios for such an attack, and most importantly, they are actually preparing for it.
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Oddly enough, it is the war in Ukraine that has dragged on into its third year and failures on the Ukrainian front that can force Putin’s Russia to attack the Baltic countries as well. Russia has long shown that its leadership is completely inadequate and its actions are not particularly amenable to rational logic. These NATO countries are very vulnerable from a geographical point of view to Russia. It will be very difficult for NATO countries to deploy their forces and it will take a very long time. Russia may take such a reckless step to force Europe to negotiate peace with it in Ukraine on its terms.

On the other hand, Russia is very interested in the Suwalki corridor, which is located between Poland and Lithuania and connects Belarus with the Kaliningrad region of Russia. This became very relevant when Sweden and Finland recently became new NATO members and the Baltic Sea effectively became an internal sea of NATO countries. Therefore, the seizure of the Suwalki corridor recently became the subject of conversation between Putin and Lukashenko at their last meeting in Moscow.
So, you have zero proof? Right? I thought so...  Grin
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