Topic: The KRAKEN rises, meaning the 2020 election fraud is being corrected. - page 6. (Read 7167 times)

This nonsense off topic mess indicates you must be really embarrassed by what an epic failure the Kraken turned out to be.

Tucker Carlson VP! Wow! It's about time that we get some honest business people into the WH instead of a bunch of politicians, war-mongers, movie celebrities, and simple clowns. Trump and Tucker would be possibly the best co-adviser team ever. Business all the way - Making America Great Again. Of course, Joe Rogan and Tim Pool wouldn't bad.


Holy smokes… crowd goes absolutely WILD at MSG as Donald Trump walks in with Tucker Carlson…

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https://revolver.news/2023/11/holy-smokes-crowd-goes-absolutely-wild-at-msg-as-donald-trump-walks-in-with-tucker-carlson/
This is epic. Is Kid Rock there also?

The crowd cheers for Trump as he walks into Madison Square Garden with Tucker Carlson for the #UFC295 main card. pic.twitter.com/655Cvj5Y0w

— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) November 12, 2023

Wow.

Donald Trump just arrived at Madison Square Garden for UFC 295 with Dana White, Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson. pic.twitter.com/BCGQ16q4Qk

— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) November 12, 2023

Here's a more high-definition picture.

Donald Trump just showed up at UFC 295 with Kid Rock, Tucker Carlson and Dana White pic.twitter.com/uBFfQ7zFcS

— Dexerto (@Dexerto) November 12, 2023

Tucker was clearly basking in the surreality of the moment.

Coincidentally, or maybe not coincidentally, the idea of Tucker Carlson as Trump's vice president has been making the rounds on the internet lately.

READ MORE: Tucker Carlson as our next Vice President isn't as "loopy" as it sounds…

The topic came up during an interview with Trump on the Clay & Buck Show.

?Donald Trump on the possibility of Tucker Carlson becoming his VP: "I like Tucker a lot. I guess I would consider him. He's got great common sense"

pic.twitter.com/jHiZJuJI5M

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) November 9, 2023

Charlie Kirk fleshed out the idea in a post on X:

Donald Trump says he's open to Tucker Carlson as a 2024 running mate. At first, it sounds a little loopy. But upon further thought…

Besides Trump himself, nobody enjoys the base's trust the way Tucker Carlson does. Nobody else intuitively understands their values, their priorities, or their worries the way they do.

No other VP contender is as battle-tested as Tucker. Like Trump, he thrives under attack and under pressure. He's been targeted and smeared endlessly for seven years, but he's never cracked, never had a breakdown. He's only become more popular. Despite years of digging, his personal life is spotless.

Tucker is the only Republican who can even begin to imitate Trump's rhetorical style. They're the only two men who can keep an audience transfixed speaking for an hour without a single note.

The Democrat plan is to keep Donald Trump stuck in court or even in jail so he can't campaign. Is anybody a more viable Trump campaign surrogate than Tucker Carlson?

And as we know, the vice president is just a heartbeat away from the presidency. If something were to happen to President Trump, God forbid, is there anyone we'd trust more than Tucker Carlson to carry the conservative mantle into the future?

This isn't some flight of fancy. Trump/Tucker is a great idea.

Donald Trump says he's open to Tucker Carlson as a 2024 running mate. At first, it sounds a little loopy. But upon further thought…

Besides Trump himself, nobody enjoys the base's trust the way Tucker Carlson does. Nobody else intuitively understands their values, their… pic.twitter.com/PRkkHeYbGG

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 10, 2023

Stranger things have happened.
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Here, have a change:

https://votexx.org/



Is that the same Trump, best bud of the world elite?

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Hey not.a.sir.azimuth notbatman, I’m kind of jealous you know.

Every election since Trump was elected president has been disappointing for republicans with the exception of 2021 I suppose. For the most recent election Virginia was was perhaps the biggest indicator for 2024, republicans were hoping to hold the state senate and flip the general assembly by running on a 15 week abortion ban and anti lgbtq/anti-diversity in public education.  Instead, they lost both and now the republican governor has democrats controlling the entire state legislature. 

I wonder if they will realize before 2024 that taking away rights is not politically popular.

Regardless of what polling says, it seems that in reality, those who actually go out their homes and vote are voting for Democrats. Because the election results we all just saw a couple of days ago concerning the Abortion rights Referendum in Ohio, also the Referendum about the legal status of marihuana. That is only in Ohio.
On a federal level, it seems this past election has a net win for the democrat party, they managed to get some victories thanks to some governor candidates which managed to conquer relatively conservative states.

So, even polls can be useful tools in order to have a glance on where the country is moving politically, it does not mean they are accurate enough to foresee the future, we have learnt that this week and we learnt that with the failed red wave of the midterm elections.

Thanks for increasing my popularity. Seems like you are doing the same kinds of things for me as Trump's opponents are doing for him. Lol.

Just now released for your BADecker Kraken listening pleasure....

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62888472


Thanx Bud for your inspiration.

We are beginning to see how Trump is going to win. He is doing it the same way that Jesus did, more or less. He isn't fighting in a big way like he could. Rather, he is taking baby steps, and losing essentially nothing, while gaining the admiration of the majority of the people.

See, also:
Democrats Panic As Poll Shows Trump Defeating Biden With 300 Electoral College Votes - FULL SHOW 11/5/23 - https://banned.video/watch?id=65483725bfe840c0735883e1.


Appeals Court Freezes Trump Gag Order Issued By Out-Of-Control Woke Judge

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/appeals-court-freezes-trump-gag-order-issued-out-control-woke-judge
A federal appeals court late Friday slapped down a gag order issued against former President Donald Trump, after his legal team filed an emergency motion Thursday to lift it while his appeal plays out before the court regarding the Biden DOJ's charges of conspiracy for challenging the results of the 2020 election.

According to a three-judge panel of the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit, the gag order from District Judge Tanya Chutkan is "administratively stayed pending further order of the court."

The gag order prohibited Trump from making any public statements that might "target" the prosecution and defense legal teams, court staff, supporting personnel, and any "reasonably foreseeable" potential witnesses in the case. Trump had originally asked Chutkan to halt the gag order - which she briefly did, before later reimposing it after the prosecution handed her (Chutkan)

"The purpose of this administrative stay is to give the court sufficient opportunity to consider the emergency motion for a stay pending appeal and should not be construed in any way as a ruling on the merits of that motion."

The move by the appeals court is the latest in the gag order saga, which was triggered by a request by special counsel Jack Smith and imposed when Judge Chutkan issued the order on Oct. 17.

President Trump has been outspoken in the past about Mr. Smith, who is leading the election interference case against him, and others.

The former president has pleaded not guilty in the case. -Epoch Times
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Hey look, the author of the op ed you posted is now a convicted felon that admitted it was all bullshit.

Ellis is the third Kraken lawyer to flip on Trump, but the first to publicly apologize (after pleading guilty to one felony and being sentenced to 5 years probation and a fine in exchange for testifying against Trump and his Georgia co-defendants)

"As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously and I endeavor to be a person of sound, moral and ethical character in all of my dealings. In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way. I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability. I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information, especially since my role involved speaking to the media and to legislators in various states"

"What I did not do but should have done, your honor, was to make sure that the facts the other lawyers alleged to be true were in fact true."

“If I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges. I look back on this experience with deep remorse”


I guess Rudy and John Eastman are the only two Kraken lawyers left that haven't flipped on Trump.  I wouldn't be surprised if the trial ended up being just the two of them plus trump with the other 16 flipping.  Eastman might flip, but I'm not sure Rudy will even be offered a deal.  We'll see...

There are always some people who get easily swayed by populists. Internet may have made it easier. I doubt it's a US-specific problem.


Maybe. A wannabe dictator saying that "deep state" is at fault for all their problems and that he'll make the country "great again" may disincentivize some people from trying to do something on their own. I personally known some people who are working dead end minimum wage jobs and blindly repeating Fox News repertoire as excuses to not even try to look for another job... something about immigrants or black people getting everything for free, and Biden stealing their money and sending it to Ukraine. But they might just be lazy dimwits regardless of politics.


Yes, fearmongering is essential for dictatorships. The thing is that it usually needs to go along with fierce censorship, otherwise people will find out that the Kraken is fake. Luckily for Trump, his supporters tend to self-censor themselves into believing only the things that he tells them to believe and dismissing everything else as fake news. Not only that, but even when he goes full 1984 (like recently denying that Sidney Kraken Powell was ever his lawyer), his supporters still reject any facts to the contrary.

But does that fit within the political context which the United States is going through? Because what you describe sounds rather isolated from politics and may have more to do with the psychological characteristics of a population.
For example, if it was not for politics, would those people be taking responsibility for more things? Would they likely to find their own smaller scarecrow elsewhere?

I understand a central figure like Trump could unify millions into shouting against the same scarecrow. I am just concerned we are deviating a bit from politics and starting to step into other kind of analysis.

Also, if I am not wrong the creation of those big scarecrows for whole populations are a signature process of authoritarian right movements and governments.

There is a significant percentage of people who will believe anything that they can blame for their own issues, be it "deep state", Kraken, bad brown people, bad gay people, nazi Ukraine, nazi Israel, Hunter Biden's laptop, anything to avoid taking responsibility for their own fuckups like a normal functioning adult is supposed to do. Most of them can't even articulate what it is though, let alone figure out if Trump or anybody else promising to fight "deep state" can actually do that, so it's a great scarecrow that can be used in any context without any consequences.

Is there a chance an important percentage of the American people actually believes in it or started to believe in it not long ago? Because Trump has managed to retain much of the Republican support backing his candidacy and it is a term he has used several times during his political career, by statistics, it would not be crazy to think many of those republicans are convinced of the existence of underground and stealthy entities within the state, which are as or more powerful than the sitting president of the Republic...
Not sure if some college study has been performed on it.

No and no.

I only hear about it when I come here for a laugh and read posts from nutjobs like BADecker.
He even has threads opened in his honor….

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62977306

Again, trying to represent "people" like if only "people" voted for Trump. It is not true, he is rich and has huge donations from rich people. There is nobody more detached from reality and the "people" he pretends to represent than him. He has lived since for ever in his bubble of privilege and cares nothing for "people". All he has ever tried is to hold on to the family fortune.

Seems like the people know there is a Deep State.

Jim Jordan - The Swamp vs. TRUMP #shorts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHRVtuOdJmA

Does the average American citizen actually believe there is a deep state within their country or it is something which is used to distract the public from political themes of importance?
As a foreigner, I don't have a doubt there must be some corruption going on in the USA, because no government is perfect, after all.

But the definition of Deep state is something which goes beyond the average corruption, bribery or political maneuvers. As far as I understand, it is about a state within the state of authocratic or antidemocratic nature which works without the knowledge of the general public.

Any conspiracy theorist will agree on its existence, but what about the normal person in USA, do they even think about it?

That list reminds me of a paper written by a high school student who waited till the last minute and had to put a bunch of filler in to make the paper meet the required minimum number of words.

Most of your list is ridiculous, but I'll pick just one of many things I could point out.

You really think this should count as 10 accomplishments?



And also, you wrote that in Sept. 2020, when unemployment was at 7.9% overall. adult men (7.4
percent), adult women (7.7 percent), Whites (7.0 percent), Asians (8.9 percent),
teenagers (15.9 percent), Blacks (12.1 percent), and Hispanics (10.3 percent)

Biden is president now, and as of June 2023 unemployment was at 3.8%, Whites (3.1 percent) adult men (3.4 percent), adult women (3.1 percent), teenagers (11.0 percent), Blacks (6.0 percent), Asians (3.2 percent), and Hispanics (4.3 percent)

silly BADecker

The Deep State isn't something that sits there, like a table or chair. You don't just get your hammer out and smash it to pieces. Rather, the Deep State exists in little parts all over the place. The job of taking it apart is a big one. Part of what Trump was doing here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252 - was to dismantle the Deep State. He simply didn't realize at the time how deeply embedded it is.

If Trump or anyone did the most important thing to dismantle the Deep State, they would become like John F. Kennedy... dead. And Trump might be headed for it as he stands now... by the Deep State, of course. In fact, he has probably received private death threats for family members who can't all be protected by the Secret Service.

What would be the biggest way to correct the deep State? Shut down the Federal Reserve Bank, and bring the money back directly under the US Treasury. This would reduce the income tax to zero, because the Treasury could print money as it needed it. No Fed means no money going to its foreign owners to use to rule the world.

If trump would speak these things - especially the part about shutting down income tax - he would win all the little Democrat people over to his side just like that. After all, it's benefits the little Dems are trying to get out of a Dem-ruled government. No income tax would be a big one.

Simple question, though.
If Trump is all in against the deep state and whatever plans they have for the United States, why did he not used the powers he had as president of the United States and dismantled it?
It sounds rather foolish to me to go against that underground organization, to declare war on it and then do not finish the job in the first term of the presidency, once the first term is gone, those dark forces would be pretty much willing to retaliate against him.

Perhaps we can admit that whether all this stuff about the deep state is as big as you claim to be, then Trump is pretty much a bad strategist?