Topic: The KRAKEN rises, meaning the 2020 election fraud is being corrected. - page 7. (Read 6476 times)

It seems that McCarthy has been kicked out his position as speaker of the house of representatives in the United States.

Makes me wonder how this will affect the power balance and behavior of the Republican Party, even though I do not like most of his political standings, I must admit there was some credit about him trying to dance at the rymth of the MAGA faction and also at the rymth of the moderate wing of the party. Sadly to him, he did not end up being the unificating entity he intended to be.

If the speakership is now in hands of the MAGA faction, then lawmakers may feel pressured to move forward to the extrem of their political spectrum so they will have a chance to get re-elected.

It is the reason why Republicans still stand a chance of getting elected in the US. That along the rule that says that all state votes go to the same candidate (not everywhere tough). It is also one side reason why the president of US may not be the most voted in terms of number of people, and it happens.

Gerrymandering is a historical name, but basically is about drawing the circumscription lines to favour a group. For example "Paxmao County" has 500 people who like redhaired women and 100 who like blue haired women. Now, you can divide it in 6 zones so that they will elect 6 women to represent. If everything is fair, you will get 5 redhairs and 1 bluehaired lady.

Gerrymandering is dividing the territory so that, for example, most of the red-haired are in the same territory that only elects one representative, while the other 5 territories are drawn so that there is a sufficient blue-hair majority. Thus, there will be 1 red and 5 blues, despite that not being the majority's choice.

Historically, this comes from Elbridge Gerry:
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What about a week's ban for BA? You know, so that they don't do it again? And if the forum is nicer, has less silly stuff and people like it more... we could try with a yearly ban?

Trump people are shrewd. They have found one of their co-defendants who is going to save himself by turning State's witness. At least that's what the State thinks. But it will backfire on them, because all that Trump was trying to do was to get the actual numbers.

If Trump is only smart enough to put into play some of the strategies of Kari Lake's team, he will be able to not only get the vote numbers out of this trial, but he will be able to get voter signature match info, and mailed ballot info, as well... plus other things. But if he doesn't get this stuff because the State shows it is is trying to hide it, he will be able to build up enough evidence against the State of Georgia election people, that he will be able to bring his own charges against them.


Trump’s co-defendant PLEADS GUILTY in contrived Georgia election interference case

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-10-01-trump-co-defendant-pleads-guilty-georgia-case.html
Scott Hall, one of 18 co-defendants of former President Donald Trump in his Georgia election interference case, pleaded guilty on Friday, Sept. 29, in Atlanta to five misdemeanor conspiracy charges.

Hall is the first person charged with Trump to plead guilty in the Georgia election interference case, which claims that Trump and his 18 co-defendants engaged in a widespread racketeering conspiracy to overturn Trump's supposed defeat in the 2020 election to President Joe Biden. (Related: Thrive Time Show: Indictments against Trump PROVE Americans live in a country with a two-tiered justice system – Brighteon.TV.)

Georgia prosecutors were able to get Hall to agree to a plea deal that includes an agreement to a sentence of five years in probation, a $5,000 fine and a letter of apology to the state.

Part of the plea deal also requires Hall to testify against his co-defendants, including Trump, at future trials or hearings in the Georgia election racketeering case. If he abides by this, the state agrees to drop the felony charges against him.

Hall's plea deal rushed through judge

At a hearing in the Fulton County Superior Court, Hall confirmed to Judge McAfee the requirements of his plea deal with prosecutors.

Curiously, McAfee indicated that Hall's plea was scheduled hastily on Friday, alleging that prosecutors wanted to rush the process to enter Hall's guilty plea. One prosecutor noted that Hall provided a recorded statement about his alleged involvement in the bid to interfere with the 2020 election in Georgia to the district attorney's office earlier in the day.

"This is not a matter that had been scheduled today, but I was informed by both parties that they would like to have an impromptu court hearing and I understand that this is a change of plea," said McAfee at the outset of the court session on Friday afternoon.
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It's a way to draw the boundaries of electoral districts in such a way that it benefits one party. Unfortunately many states leave the district arrangement up to the legislature, i.e. politicians who directly benefit from it, instead of using some sort of impartial non-political method.

The way this can work is by "packing" as many people of certain political leaning (which in the two-party system isn't that difficult, e.g. black people favor Democrats, white rural population favors Republicans, etc) into as few districts as possible, so they elect as few representatives as possible. Another option (can be used in combination with the above) is  to spread such people over multiple districts so that they don't have a majority in either of them and are unable to elect the representatives they want.

Obviously you can't just put any people in any district you want, it has to be done using geographic boundaries (basically lines on a map), but there is enough segregation in many areas so that it can work geographically, e.g. urban black population and white suburbs - very common in the US.

Google gerrymandering examples, it's fascinating.

Thanks for the explanation, I had assume it was mostly about the political leaning of some demographics, indeed.
However, if this is a matter of how younger generations think politically, it would safe to say that the Republican party as stands today will fall from grace even more eventually, because they do not seem to be interested onto appealing to the youth anymore.

If your party does better, the hardest it is people to vote, then I would say it is something wrong there... and something hypocritical as well, since we are talking about democracy,etc.

Also, what is gerrymandering? it is the first time I have read that work on internet.

Don't worry BADecker.  The people who are responsible for the greatest election fraud in the history of the country were not successful and are finally being held accountable by Jesus and the DOJ to deter anyone else thinking about trying something in the future.  The system is working.  


God bless the USA.

Since there are so many people who recognize that there is something fishy in our voting system, and since the Trump people have figured out what it is, they are taking action to keep it from happening all over again. The question is, are they missing the big thing? They talk about God helping them, but they better focus on the one thing that God hates worse than anything for America... abortions, and second, pedophilia, especially among government people. If they don't, God just might cause their plans to fail.


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Generally speaking, better voter turnout usually favors the Democrats. There may be demographic reasons for that - e.g. younger people tend to lean progressive but also don't vote as actively as more conservative older people. The impact varies by state, in some states it doesn't really matter much because of gerrymandering etc, but some red states may be seeing significant population growth or increased migration of younger people, who could tilt the balance towards Democrats if they voted.

Automatic registration is perceived as making it easier to vote for people who otherwise wouldn't, i.e. increasing turnout and therefore benefiting Democrats. I'm not sure it really works that way... if someone is too lazy to vote they probably won't do it anyway or won't even know they've been registered.

But "voting fraud" is a good dog whistle for trumplings so they'll make shit up about illegal immigrants and dead people being automatically registered and fight that straw man.

What is up with such an important sector of the Republican party being against measures like Automatic registration for elegible voters ?

It is something I have lately been reading and listening on the internet. It should not be a problem, since there are other countries (even in Europe) where one does not need to manually register oneself as voter in order to participate in elections.

I have listened Republican to say it helps to ease voter fraud, etc.
What is your position on this? It got me quite curious.

Witness for the state means you're helping the prosecutor's effort to get a guilty verdict.

Lin Wood was team Kraken from the beginning.  He's not helping prosecutors because he thinks it's the right thing to do, and the prosecutor didn't list him as a witness if he didn't spill the beans and agree to testify.
 He flipped because he'd rather be a witness than go down the defendant => felon => inmate path that the rest of team Kraken have to think about every day.



What's really happening is OGN is shit posting for the sig campaign payments.  Post history says it all.

Ponzi affiliate opportunities aren't like they used to be but the bills still gotta get paid.

Something is definitely happening... like maybe the governor is traveling out of state. But we'll never know because qanon news will switch to the next pile of bullshit in about 5 seconds.

Some major developments happening in Arizona right now. Everyone is wondering what Hobbs is up to. I’ve heard everything from a medical procedure to trying to distance herself from the fraudulent election win, but something is definitely happening as she has been replaced with a temporary replacement. I guess at least it isn’t a body double Fetterman style.

Being States witness, and
being listed as States witness, and
turning against Trump
are all different things.

Any of them can be combined together, but they don't have to be. Besides, what Wood agrees to outside of deposition, might not be the same as what he says inside the deposition... or in the trial.

At this point the Dems will do anything to attempt to reduce the popularity of Trump. Why? Because Trump set their big plan that they have been doing for decades behind a minimum of the 4 years he was in office. If they have to lie about what Wood will say, they will, just for the sake of getting it into the media to try to wreck Trump's popularity.

Why is it that you don't want to Make America Great Again? Are you really against America? Or are you just doing what you are doing because I and a few others have showed you up so many times?

True. If the prosecutors needed help making a sandwich, for example, that wouldn't be turning against trump.

In this case though, where Trump has been indicted and Woods is listed as the States witness, it means he turned against Trump.

Helping the prosecutors doesn't necessarily mean turning against Trump. If the prosecutors want Wood's testimony, they probably should have it. Even if the testimony is, "I don't know," they should have it. What does any of that have to do with turning against Trump? Especially if there isn't anything or any way to turn against him? We won't know for sure until we see the testimony.

You simply have it set in your mind that Trump is guilty of something. And in that simple of a statement, I agree with you. Trump is guilty of doing all kinds of good things. Much of the good that Trump did/does is considered bad by the Dems and you, simply because you jokers have a bad mindset.

The grand jury recommended charging him, but he wasn't charged with the rest of the Kraken frauds and he's listed as a Witness for the state.
He didn't want to be arrested so he flipped and helped the prosecutors.  That's what it means to flip.  He's just saying otherwise in public because he doesn't want some Trumptard to burn his house down.

In theory one can say whatever one wants outside the court and in front of anyone, lying in such context is not illegal, however, lying under oath carries the punishment of committing perjury.

Also, the legal scenario you are putting onto the table certainly has precedents, there have been members of criminal organizations where members were expected to swear never to flip or offer testimony against each other, the Italian mafias were a good example of it back in the day. Though, people tend to reconsider their oath to their co-conspirators when facing decades behind bars.
Otherwise, all testimony from thousands of witnesses who were part in criminal organizations would be considered to be false, which won't happen.

If Wood says he won't flip, but then he does, he is a liar and his testimony isn't worth anything, because nobody knows whether it is lying testimony or not. If he says he won't flip, and then does, and then he takes the oath or affirmation to tell the truth, was he lying when he took the oath?

Rudy, Sydney, Jenna Ellis all got charged.

Wood wasn't charged and a court filing refers to him as the states witness.

Even if he doesn't testify at trial, the guy flipped.