yes, of course, silly me didn't think before posting
i was just thinking we could also do triangles (or some more obscene geometric formations) in the future - or are they absolete with dual-funded channels?
Unless more people join us, I don't think there is any point in this. You can simply route a payment through me; it's only one additional hop.
you are right for the moment we are not many and i also don't see the value in it right now. but in the future
(when we are many) we don't want you to become the one single point of failure
(i am kidding - but there is some truth in there i think)i was just thinking we could also do triangles (or some more obscene geometric formations) in the future - or are they absolete with dual-funded channels?
Technically, you can include a lot of inputs and outputs in a single transaction. As long as transaction size will be below 100 kB, it should be possible to open and close many channels with many participants in a single transaction. The main problem is in lightning clients understanding what is going on, it may be impossible to create such transaction with some standard lightning client, but may be possible to create and sign it with for example Bitcoin Core and then get it accepted by some lightning node. It is definitely possible in case of opening a channel (you can open many channels by using a single opening transaction), closing it is harder, because you have to put that transaction inside the lightning client somehow and convince other lightning nodes to do the same.
yes rath also mentioned opening multiple channels in one transaction, that is awesome and i have to look into it at some point. but the fees are so low at the moment
(that is why now is a good time to start setting up your lighting node), i don't need it
and i try to stay with what the clients support and don't want to get into something else for the moment, i was talking about swaps you can for example see on
lightningnetwork.plus - we could even use that site
(possible to use with fake email addresse, even mentioned on the site somewhere)just an idea if we are more people - rath is right, at the moment this is not necessary and doesn't really fullfill any purpose, but i am thinking about the future