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Topic: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God - page 13. (Read 37219 times)

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Don't strain yourself too hard looking for facts, logic, or reason from Liathon. There is none of that to be found.
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perhaps the OP does not know that sex for selfish reasons is a dangerous and unbalanced act.
I could not disagree more strongly. Sexual nirvana is the key to peace on Earth.

And WHAT exactly is your reasoning? I have provided mine, and you have yet to examine it; you dismiss all that has been written but propose no knowledge of your own; that is why I am asking: are you speaking in ignorance? Here is another quote:

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Again, the laws of balance are LOGICAL, meaning they were created specifically to maintain BALANCE within The
Creation.

Because of the various degrees of deliberate, systematic and malevolently lewd and lascivious sexual behaviors, which are the corruption of this DIVINE UNION, and which have been and are practiced by most on your plane, the WARNING given above by our beloved Jesus Immanuel is transpiring before your very eyes in this time frame!

The sexual "act" was specifically designed to be performed by ONE man and ONE woman who had committed THEIR DIVINE LOVE AS ONE in the union of marriage, ordained by GOD. Through this union OF LOVE, the act of sexual intercourse between a husband and his wife for pro-creation was a most sacred and honored responsibility, an extension of their LOVE and COMMITMENT TO GOD in his service as PARENTS of HIS Children.

Now remember the law of "Cause and Effect". The EFFECTS of breaking this one directive of GOD are all about you today. Over-Population and the spread of fatal venereal and blood-borne diseases, such as Syphilis and AIDS, are proving to be YOUR self-punishment to the point of creating the nearly complete destruction of your human species on Earth.
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perhaps the OP does not know that sex for selfish reasons is a dangerous and unbalanced act.
I could not disagree more strongly. Sexual nirvana is the key to peace on Earth.
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I wonder if the original poster (OP) will refute what has been stated in Phoenix Journals regarding sex.

There is only one war that matters: Truth vs. Falsehood; knowledge vs. Ignorance

The religious wing nuts only have a few decades left to wipe us all out with a super weapon before we reach the next phase of human evolution.

I found this post from OP in another thread; it is ironic to me because it appears he is promoting his pro-sex ideology out of ignorance; perhaps the OP does not know that sex for selfish reasons is a dangerous and unbalanced act. I have quoted the portion of Phoenix Journals where the soul-ution is given; I would like for the OP to take notice, so that Truth and knowledge can win the war. I challenge OP to side with truth and knowledge today, and to recognize the sexual act for what it is. There is a lot more truth in that Journal and it is better to read and have knowledge before denouncing in ignorance.

However, I do agree that certain religious ideologies are dangerous, and I will identify the most dangerous one here in this post--Zionism; I submit more quotes from the same Phoenix Journal:

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THEY WILL CRY OUT FOR "NEW WORLD GOVERNMENT AND ORDER" AND PROMISE YOU PEACE AND PROSPERITY. BUT YOU SHALL REAP OF THE WHIRLWIND FOR UNITY OF WORLDS AND UNIVERSES COMES ONLY FROM THE LIGHTED TRUTH AND LIFE INTEGRATION WITHIN THE LAWS OF TRUTH, LIGHT AND BALANCE WITHIN THE CREATION. MAN OF HUMAN DISTRACTION KNOWS ONLY LUST, GREED, POWER THROUGH COERCION AND FORCE AND ENSLAVEMENT. IF YE FOLLOW THE WRONG LEADER YOU ARE DESTINED TO PERISH WITH THAT LEADER AND LOSE OF ALL THAT YE PERCEIVE YE HAVE GAINED IN THE PHYSICAL PROCUREMENT.


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The act of marriage and procreation must have the highest degree of pure intent and preparation, for upon these bonds and restrictions will rest the preservation of mankind as a species upon the planet. If everything is done and adhered to, justice and peace will come to all mankind, and life in the human form can be preserved.

If man continues his selfish and imprudent behavior, he will sound his own death tariff. There reaches a point beyond which a planet cannot support the unbalanced system perpetrated by mankind. And yet, so shall it come to pass that man will not listen and bring destruction upon his own species.

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Oh, despicable and vile are the ones who took My words and promise and made them to read as the profits and reward of the very evil anti-God who would seek Zion and call themselves My chosen children and take the heritage of Mine own, unto themselves.
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They have taken My Truth and turned it unto their own use to fool all of ye nations.
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I send the Word for man to KNOW so that he can choose his direction. I shall no longer stand silent and those who have changed My words and destroyed My Truth shall be cast into the silence for they have pulled My people down and the reward shall be heavy indeed.

I close this portion with petition to hear, to see and come into understanding so that you can find your way. My messengers shall no longer be given into martyrdom for the call is sounded as the chaos has spread about your lands--so will the hush come upon you and woe is upon he who does not take heed. I shall rip the books bound within the lies from their sewing and rend them into shreds and the lies shall bury the liars in their dens of iniquity and so shall it come to pass for the Truth lies within the story but it is NOT AS WRITTEN OR TRANSLATED FOR THEY OF EVIL HAVE TAKEN THAT WHICH WAS GIVEN FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND TURNED IT INTO THE PATH DIRECTLY INTO EVIL. THEY WHO HAVE CONVULSED MY TRUTH SHALL BE STRANGLED UPON THEIR OWN LIES. AH YES, YE HAD BETTER BE READING CAREFULLY THE BOOKS CALLED BIBLE, FOR THEY ARE FILLED WITH THE CHANGINGS TO SUIT OF THE BEAST AND THROUGH THEM SHALL YE BE LED TO SLAUGHTER FOR THEY ARE NOT OF MY GIVING. EVERYTHING PURE HAS BEEN CORRUPTED FOR THE EONS OF TIME AND YE WHO WERE GIVEN FORTH TO SET IT TO RIGHT HAVE FALLEN TO THE WAYSIDE OR INTO THE PIT WITH THE VIPERS. NOT LONGER SHALL IT BE THUS FOR I AM COMING TO SET IT TO RIGHT AND YE WHO STAND WITH ME SHALL BE GIVEN INTO GREATNESS. THESE ONES WHO HAVE STOLEN THAT WHICH I GAVE IN TRUTH UNTO MINE PEOPLE SHALL BE GIVEN INTO THE ABYSS OF REMORSE FOR ALL THEIR REMAINING DAYS AND THEN THEY SHALL BE JUDGED WITH JUSTICE.

May the Light be given entrance to shine around about you that you be given into vision for the remaining days of your experience upon that place are numbered.
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I am posting some excerpts from the Phoenix Journals as they contain the truth about sex. Please refrain from commenting unless you have read the whole post.

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I write this first Word unto you so that as you pass this portion of this JOURNAL, you know that which is given is Truth, reason and in justness. This is the most important document ye shall ever be given for the last trumpet is sounding and ye have been again warned and petitioned and My messengers have pleaded upon bended knees to be heeded.

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Perhaps I should mention to you that Hatonn denounces the lack of RESPONSIBILITY of the sexual unions as you of Earth have come to practice them--the murders of the unborn, the USE of another for gratification of human power needs and the activities which are given and experienced--in most despicable ways bearing diseases and killing the very body seeking acceptance and pleasure. LOVE AND UNION OF EMOTION IS A GIFT OF EXPERIENCE GIVEN UNTO THE SOUL (EMOTIONS) AND HAVE NAUGHT TO DO WITH BODY PHYSICAL. THAT FOR WHICH YE SEARCH IS NOT FULFILLED BY ANY CONJURED ACTIVITY OF THE HUMAN PHYSICAL BEING. IT IS THE "BEHAVIOR" DENOUNCED, NOT THE LOVE AND ABIDING CO-RELATIONSHIP OF THAT WHICH YOU LABEL HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL. IT IS NOT "LOVE", RESPONSIBILITY, NOR EVEN CARING, WHEN ONE WOULD GIVE FATAL DISEASE UNTO THAT OTHER HE CLAIMS TO ABIDE WITH IN LOVE. Therefore, when ye are told the truth of it, you denounce and turn away. How can you believe and accept one thing from Hatonn and discard that very portion which allows your immortal soul transition into the glorious realms of higher dimension? Is the inference, somehow, that if you have experienced the things which are against the Laws of God and The Creation that you are doomed and lost forever? Do not be foolish--all done in IGNORANCE is instantly forgiven as TRUTH IS NOTED AND FOLLOWED. As in the "homosexual" participant in any relationship- -you turn from the placement of your parts of procreation or that which was purposed for speech into the places of fecal expulsion. Is that so very difficult to attain in truth? Is that act a true expression of your caring LOVE of another being?

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Just as the obese person has the simplistic opportunity to simply close the mouth to lose of the fat, so is the simplicity of all of MY instructions in order to come within the laws. AND JUST AS "WILL" OF THE FLESH IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO CLOSE OF THE MOUTH AGAINST THE FOODS IN EXCESS, SO YE SHALL BE GIVEN STRENGTH IF YE BUT ASK WITH INTENT OF PURPOSE--NOT OF THE LIPS THAT ALWAYS PRONOUNCE LIES--BUT THE HEART WITHIN IN PETITION FOR AID.

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The truly loving DIVINE UNION, that of male/female experiencing their creative potential through the sexual act for PROCREATION, was created to be a UNION OF DIVINE LOVING DEVOTION and CELEBRATION OF THE GIFTS OF ONENESS SHARED...AND OF NEW LIFE CREATED FROM GOD. Rarely do ones feel TRUE LOVE, caring friendship, affection and intimacy toward their mates on your plane. Most have simply forgotten what LOVE is. You think perhaps you and your mate are one of the "rare" exceptions? Here is a test for you. How long would your marriage and commitment last if today you completely STOPPED all sexual activity with one another? Think about this carefully. Do you truly give of yourself to your mate sexually and otherwise because you wish to please them? To please both of you?

To please yourself? You ones think your sexual orgasm is ecstasy? YOU EVEN LIMIT ECSTASY!

You see, you are not your desires, you are not your emotions. YOU are THE SPIRIT of LIFE of GOD, and your spirit IS the MASTER over your desires and emotions. Don't you see that you have simply chosen, in your illusion of ignorance and confusion, TO MAKE your emotions and desires the MASTER over your SPIRIT...YOUR GODNESS?!?

This corruption of your creative potential WAS CREATED, CONDITIONED AND MOLDED BY THE ANTI-CHRIST. YOU SIMPLY BOUGHT THE LIE AS TRUTH AND HAVE BECOME ADDICTED TO YOUR DESIRE FOR "SEX".

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Recognize that this "sexual urge" is really your UNFULFILLED creative potential screaming to be released from the self-imposed "limit" or boundary of THE physical sexual ACT. Act: "1. To play the part of; impersonate. 2. To serve temporarily or as a substitute. To PRETEND." The sexual act is limiting, substituting and impersonating YOUR CREATIVE AND SPIRITUAL UNFOLDMENT TO KNOW GOD. When you truly understand and recognize this truth, your creative spiritual unfoldment can no longer BE FRUSTRATED AND LIMITED to the repetition of a silly and truly spiritually unfulfilling "sexual act".

Does this mean you are expected, by self and GOD, to STOP all sexual activity NOW? ONLY if it is YOUR choice made with the JOY of TRULY understanding and thus having the freedom of detachment from this "ADDICTION" and no desire to procreate. For most of you, especially adults, "sexual behavior" has now become addictive, so you must treat it as such.
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So be gentle with self and your mate, but be aware and responsible to "consequences" (such as pregnancy) and persistent in your goal (to self) to release and detach from ALL things of Physical Manifestation. Simply RECOGNIZE without punishing self with guilt and shame that this is a transgression against the Creative spirit of life within you. For a time accept that you will have desire because you are "addicted" and many of you understand it as an "extension" of your love. Do not punish self or other, let the "desire" dissolve naturally within each partner. As you begin the unfoldment and adventure of discovering YOUR creative spiritual potential, you will be surprised, because at some point you will find that the "sexual act" is no longer appealing to either of you. You will be detached and no longer have interest in it!

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I judge not that which you DID; I judge that which you DO after learning Truth. No MAN nor group of MEN/WOMEN shall change one iota of the LAWS! You can all vote in favor of that which is evil and make of thine laws according to land, and it means nothing for you will continue to be consumed by that which is evil that ye have brought upon selves. The actions are totally and completely up to you. Do ye wish My Hosts to come and tell you worse and more despicable LIES? Is that for which ye seek in the perfection of God?--more lies from My messengers?

This is the time of the separation of those who are WITH ME from those who stand AGAINST ME. If you turn again unto the Laws of Truth as given forth, you shall be given all assistance from MY REALMS AND FROM MY HOSTS. Those who remain in deliberate practice of those things which are birthed of the physical and expended in human-level actions have made their choices. If you turn unto the dark passages, choosing to forfeit the Light, so be it for ye shall be left unto your choices for I force not any creature--but YOU ALONE shall be in the choosing.

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YE WHO FEEL FRAIL AND THINK YE CANNOT STAND IN TRUTH--ALONE; YE ARE NOT ALONE FOR I AM THE STRENGTH OF THE UNIVERSE AND I SHALL SUPPORT THEE. IN THE ENDING, PRECIOUS ONES, YE SHALL STAND ALL ALONE—JUST THEE AND ME AND THERE SHALL BE NONE OTHER TO ANSWER IN YOUR STEAD.

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_27.pdf
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Oh dear, looks like Christianity is on terminal decline. Bet they wish they could turn back the clock to the "good old days". You know, the days they used to beat to death unbelievers for not joining their cult. That never failed to boost numbers.

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Yes, religion isn't going anywhere soon. Religions change, old ones die out, man invents new ones, some go out of favour, others flourish.

Oh dear, looks like Christianity is on terminal decline. Bet they wish they could turn back the clock to the "good old days". You know, the days they used to beat to death unbelievers for not joining their cult. That never failed to boost numbers.

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Finally he reveals his true goal.... fucking 13 year olds.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Actually, my extremely fit and attractive girlfriend just turned 26 last month, what perfect irony! It's like you're not evening trying. Is that really all you've got?
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...the next wave will demand sexual rights at puberty and 13 as new age of consent.

Finally he reveals his true goal.... fucking 13 year olds.
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More importantly, God doesn't approve of the lasciviousness.
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Oh dear, looks like a nasty case of WGW (What God Wants) syndrome rearing it's ugly head again.
You need to nip that problem in the bud my friend, it will only get worse you know.

He destroys the lascivious people.
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More WGW I'm afraid. What your trying to say is YOU want God to destroy lascivious people because of your lack of fulfillment.
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More denominations are becoming accepting of homosexuality and birth control
You embrace sexuality, the next wave of youth will fight for polyamory rights. You embrace polyamory, the next wave will demand sexual rights at puberty and 13 as new age of consent. You embrace that, they'll push for the right to nudity and sex in public, and the abolition of "indecent exposure" laws.

For every inch theist organizations give here, the next generation of kids will take three. It's not going to end well for Christianity, the dogma will be stretched way too thin, and then it will snap. It's a rearguard effort, defensive and ultimately futile. Accept reality, the age of religion is over.

This is exactly where you are wrong. Here's how you are wrong.

Over the past several thousand years, people have done exactly as you say in your post that I am quoting above. Yet, throughout those thousands of years, Christianity and religion of all kinds have made gigantic comebacks. If there was any strength to lasciviousness, these comebacks would not have happened.

More importantly, God doesn't approve of the lasciviousness. He, Himself, is the one Who finds people that want to be righteous in God's eyes. At the same time He destroys the lascivious people.

You might be comforting yourself and a few others by expressing the things that you are expressing. But you are causing your own ultimate destruction at the same time... except if you turn before it is too late...

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More denominations are becoming accepting of homosexuality and birth control
You embrace homosexuality, the next youth wave will fight for pansexuality and polyamory rights. You embrace polyamory, the next wave will demand sexual rights at puberty and 13 as new age of consent. You embrace that, they'll push for the right to nudity and sex in public, and the abolition of "indecent exposure" laws.

For every inch theist organizations give here, the next generation of kids will take three. It's not going to end well for Christianity, the dogma will be stretched way too thin, and then it will snap. It's a rearguard effort, defensive and ultimately futile. Accept reality: the age of religion is over.
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I personally don't think religion is going anywhere for a long time. But that it will remain a more progressive and less dogmatic capacity. More denominations are becoming accepting of homosexuality and birth control
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People I am not a believer but I haven't heard never a religious (from every part of religion) to tell: people don't do sex. Sex is bad and you must abstain to it. they condemn the degeneration, the sex with more than one women or out of the marriage but not the sex on itself. So I don't understand this confrontation between the religion and the sex.

Baffles me too. There's some thoughts on the sex preoccupation issue here at number 9, entitled "Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex."
http://www.seesharppress.com/20reasons.html
Oh and at number 10 as well.

Here's 15 reasons why you should ignore the religious "going to hell for masturbating" nonsense as well.
http://www.logicalspiritualism.com/Default.aspx?action=list-view&id=15
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People I am not a believer but I haven't heard never a religious (from every part of religion) to tell: people don't do sex. Sex is bad and you must abstain to it. they condemn the degeneration, the sex with more than one women or out of the marriage but not the sex on itself. So I don't understand this confrontation between the religion and the sex.

Illegitimate sex is a problem for many, many people. Illegitimate sex harms families and children, in addition to being wrong in the eyes of God. The point that religion is trying to get across is to control one's self with regard to sex. Keep it in the family, between the husband and wife.

Sex, itself, in the family, is promoted by religion. God wants us to have children. God wants us to have pleasure the right way.

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People I am not a believer but I haven't heard never a religious (from every part of religion) to tell: people don't do sex. Sex is bad and you must abstain to it. they condemn the degeneration, the sex with more than one women or out of the marriage but not the sex on itself. So I don't understand this confrontation between the religion and the sex.
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And the survival will be nil. Let's not ignore that part. The Earth is messed up, get used to it, it's only going to get worse.
Yes, we've allowed industrial-capitalist civilization to ravage the Earth for far too long. But do you honestly believe anything other than science has a chance to repair the damage we've done? If we were to abandon science NOW, after it's changed everything, it would amount to mass-suicide. Without fossil fuel, we can't produce the fertilizer we use to grow 85%+ of the food we grow. Without science, 4 out of every 5 people alive today would starve to death.

How many theists do you think would remain after such an asinine apocalypse?

Who wants to spend eternity with a bunch of God brown nosers? Sounds like hell. Cheesy
If I end up in the same afterlife as these fuckwits, there's gonna be a whole-lotta god-murderin' happening up there.



Are you ignorant? Or just a troll-like propagandizer? Do you really believe this stuff you spout, especially when science, itself, shows you the opposite?

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Unlike the devil, Beliathon has a chance to gain eternal life with us.

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Who wants to spend eternity with a bunch of God brown nosers? Sounds like hell. Cheesy

People that wish heaven remind me of king Midas and his foolish wish. Cheesy




There are 2 kinds of pain in Hell.

1. The weaker pain is the pain of having your soul destroyed. It is like the pain of pure burning sensation throughout your whole body. It will be eternal because your soul is eternal. Even if you have no body, the sensation will be there, because your soul is the thing that interprets you bodily sensations anyway.

2. The greater pain will be the absence of the joy that could have been there for you in the presence of God and all the saved people, and the angels.

Take it or leave it. Through Jesus, the choice is now yours.

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Either:
1) You've been to hell yourself and somehow come back to life so you can tell us in exact detail what it was like.

Or

2) Talking out your backside, with crazy wild speculation built on soft sinking sand.


Now I wonder what one it is.  Roll Eyes I wonder indeed.
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And the survival will be nil. Let's not ignore that part. The Earth is messed up, get used to it, it's only going to get worse.
Yes, we've allowed industrial-capitalist civilization to ravage the Earth for far too long. But do you honestly believe anything other than science has a chance to repair the damage we've done? If we were to abandon science NOW, after it's changed everything, it would amount to mass-suicide. Without fossil fuel, we can't produce the fertilizer we use to grow 85%+ of the food we grow. Without science, 4 out of every 5 people alive today would starve to death.

How many theists do you think would remain after such an asinine apocalypse?

Yes, Earth has hit the point of no return. Theists wait for God to get rid of the old world and come up with a new one. Back when the bible was written, they may have wondered why such a line existed in the bible, but now it makes sense.

Revelation 21 and I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away
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