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Topic: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God - page 10. (Read 37219 times)

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Throw rock into pond.
Rock create ripples.
Rock gone, but ripples spread.

Live brain in pond of life.
Brain create mind ripples.
Brain die and is gone, but mind ripples still go on.
This is actually not a terrible analogy, however you made one important error. The "ripples" our brains create in life do not represent our mind, but our thoughts, expressed through spoken language and written word.

Those thoughts we commit to the net will live on long after we're dead. Unlike our minds, which reside wholly in our rotting and dead brains.

Live mind in pond of life.
Mind creates thought ripples.
Brain dies and mind is gone,
but thought ripples carry on
through those whose lives we have touched.
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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.

That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind.

Does the human mind go on after death? The only evidence that we have for something like this, comes from outside the human mind. Science doesn't say it at all! Obviously, there are greater religions than the human mind.

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Good and live philosophy. Seems like the dilemma of Hamlet at the Shakespeare work with the same title: To be or not to be. For sure I choose to be. And for sure i chose that there is not human mind after death. This is scientifically proved. There is not activity in the human mind after the death. Nor in the mind and nor in the body. Everything is gone. End. So, enjoy since your live.

Throw rock into pond.
Rock create ripples.
Rock gone, but ripples spread.

Live brain in pond of life.
Brain create mind ripples.
Brain die and is gone, but mind ripples still go on.

Just because science is too stupid to see the mind ripples after the brain dies...

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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.

That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind.

Does the human mind go on after death? The only evidence that we have for something like this, comes from outside the human mind. Science doesn't say it at all! Obviously, there are greater religions than the human mind.

Smiley

Good and live philosophy. Seems like the dilemma of Hamlet at the Shakespeare work with the same title: To be or not to be. For sure I choose to be. And for sure i chose that there is not human mind after death. This is scientifically proved. There is not activity in the human mind after the death. Nor in the mind and nor in the body. Everything is gone. End. So, enjoy since your live.
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Way to ignore my point and go right on again arguing about God. You two deserve each other.
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In sum:
GOD is love.
Humanists deny GOD's existence and deny life after death; they claim that sex is love.
Humanists cannot address the 52 points of evidence that support life after death, and they are also mistaken about GOD.
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Humanism teaches--the individual need answer only to himself. He is his own judge. Lying is a relative term and therefore doesn't exist if the person thinks it is OK. (The end justifies the means.) Humanism teaches--Man is basically good and therefore is able to determine his own best values by himself--a child is able to determine his own best values at any age (Efforts are now being made to lower the age of statutory rape to 14 years old). Sex is a physical animal need that must be gratified in any way that the person deems best. Since guilt and shame do not exist, and no one can do any wrong, there is no need for forgiveness and/or punishment. Suicide, adultery, abortion-on-demand, sadism and masochism, sex and nudity in public, incest, prostitution, sodomy, masturbation, pornography, euthanasia, drug use, etc. are all OK.

Humanism teaches--total hostile rejection of traditional beliefs and substitution of man, evolution, amorality, basic goodness of man, and one-world system in its place. Humanism teaches--one-world system ruled by an intellectual elite (The Humanists.)

Humanism teaches--man to follow his own changing values and be responsible for the consequences of his actions (abortion, illegitimate births, lesbianism, homosexuality, murder, hatred, strife, contention--in general--let it all hang out).

Humanism denies life after death, and no man need recognize ANY authority beyond himself.

Humanism teaches--there is no certainty because there is constant change (evolution), therefore law must be continually changed to the whims of man who is the Supreme Being.


Hatonn explains that man cannot change the Law. Man has tampered with Scripture as it relates to sex, to suit his own beliefs.

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What you are being given in the current PLEIADIAN CONNECTIONS series is the Truth of how life WORKS. You will find that the physical is only related to that which is SENSED. Spiritual is that which is KNOWN. The two are hardly connected except that the physical body is an extension of the eternal Mind--for use of that mind in a physical environment--to serve.

Attitudes such as those considered "OK" in your slang terminology are simply not acceptable behaviors in the higher experience where the "body physical" is a most unimportant portion of experience. SENSED existence is a very "primal/primitive" state of Being.

Is masturbation evil? It depends on the intent! It is certainly NOT SOMETHING MANDATORY TO GOOD HEALTH. I cannot sanction such a projection as coming directly from God for it simply is not so! Does this lessen the writer? NO, only the perception. It is very hard for mankind to come into clarity and accurate perception. Does this make the book evil and the author unworthy? No, it only means that the author is a human and that the book must not be published AS GIVEN DIRECTLY OF GOD--THAT, DEAR ONES, IS WHAT IS INCORRECT ABOUT YOUR BIBLICAL REFERENCES--THEY HAVE BEEN TAMPERED BY MAN TO SUIT THE BELIEF OF MAN.

Any Earth person can publish anything they please and many are worthy of great note--however, if publishing is IN THE NAME OF DIRECT STATEMENT AND RULES FROM GOD--NO. It, further, is my responsibility to sort the two. Would you consider me a friend to allow publication of material which is NOT correct to go forth and the soul of even ONE be misled?

I care not what YOU think about the "hereafter"--I KNOW what is there and I know about the prepared places and little human of Earth will abide by the Laws as laid forth and practiced by those where and with whom you will be placed--OR, you will be left to your own demise.

This simply is the way it IS and I cannot change it to suit your hurt feelings or arguments--WHAT IS--IS! WHO ARE YOU TO DEMAND ANYTHING? So be it--however, your Earth Shan gets in worse and worse condition, run by total chaos and insanity so, if I were you, I would begin to consider these points most carefully indeed.
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/PJ_36.pdf
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Karl Marx's own definition of Humanism reads:
"Humanism is the denial of God, and the total affirmation of man... Humanism is really nothing else but Marxism"
--Karl Marx, ECONOMIC POLITIQUE ET PHILOSOPHIE, VOL. I, PAGES 38-40.
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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.

That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind.

Does the human mind go on after death? The only evidence that we have for something like this, comes from outside the human mind. Science doesn't say it at all! Obviously, there are greater religions than the human mind.

Smiley

Way to ignore a perfectly good discussion about the dangers of Liathon's socialist dogmas and create yet another unresolvable discussion about God, allowing Liathon to make sure the actual points he has no response to get pushed off of the page yet again.
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Quote from: Dennis Lewis (from "Awakening to the Miracle of Ordinary Life")
The struggle that we need to undertake is the struggle to see the way in which I constantly lie to myself. It is the struggle to be inwardly sincere. It is this seeing, a process that also requires the support of my body and feelings (for my sensations and feelings can also lie), that can free me from my habitual preoccupations, expectations, and beliefs—those powerful psychological states that keep me from experiencing myself and the world in the fullness of the present moment. But as anyone who has tried knows, the effort to be inwardly sincere brings with it suffering, real suffering, the immediate, painful experience of the many ways in which I cut myself off from the truth. This experience, as difficult as it is, also brings with it a great sense of freedom and joy, a sense of returning home from exile.

"Awakening to the Miracle of Ordinary Life"
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Clearing up the confusion on the subjects of sex and God:
I was happy to see a thread on Reddit recently discussing the "mystery" of the Phoenix Journals and related writings. They were asking the question "How was this prodigious output (a 200-page book EVERY 3 WEEKS FOR YEARS, hundreds of books in total) covering such a wide range of topics, possible?

Please do not be too quick to reject the truthful answer.

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Almost everything coming forth in truth is that which NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR! HOWEVER, WITH IT COMES THE SOLUTIONS AND INSTRUCTIONS---AND ALWAYS THE GRACE OF CREATOR AND THE UNLIMITED FORGIVENESS, LOVE AND PLACEMENT.

When man and woman desire the oneness of each other they should try first to become one in energy intent. You have almost no intimacy in your relationships as you now practice them. "Sex" is not intimacy. What the Law indicates is need for total RESPONSIBILITY of your actions and not carelessly hopping into the “hay" to romp around without thought to the impact either on the partner or the possible outcome of the relationship. Your heart will know of the difference. Sometimes one partner or the other might---in love--wish to “accommodate” the other but this is rare indeed, for the level of “mutual” response is far differing both in the sexes and the emotions. It is most rare indeed that one “gives” to the other in total love--it is usually more that “I may get something later if I cooperate now."

The point, of course, is that the sexual union does have a purpose and man has forgotten that love” is far more than ten or fifteen minutes of pleasure. Love has really nothing to do with it for it is simply a body function--- further it is the one body function that has pulled down your entire civilization over and over again. It is also that God desires you raise yourself above the level of non-thinking animal and assume thoughtful responsibility for your actions. In the ultimate union there is shared intent of purpose and the total consideration of one for the other and it all takes care quite nicely, of itself.

Most "groups" and doctrines are pretty sure their truth will not measure up to this truth and in fact, most will certainly not do so. Rather than adjust and make an even greater contribution, however, they will set about discrediting.

Man is curious about that which is denounced, banned and censored and will seek dilligently until he can find out all about the matter--never be distressed at those who throw stones, especially in public media, etc., for they do you great favor. We speak truth and you have naught to fear for it is intended that it shall find ear and eye.

It may not be what ones "wish" to hear, but it will be truth and the hearts of man shall know it!

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/90-01-04.pdf

Abstinence IS the only positive means of birth control. Mankind has acted irresponsibly and the consequences are everywhere.
I am quoting from these writings to clear up the confusion about God and sex; if there are questions, I am happy to answer.
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Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Actually, "there is extraordinary evidence of spirits or the afterlife". Furthermore, "Materialism can be shown to be false by empirical evidence and logical arguments. Materialism is not a Rational Philosophy."

Of course, "Some religious leaders reject psychic phenomena because those phenomena threaten the dogmatic teachings of their religion. It undermines their authority as the source of information on the afterlife, God, and other spiritual subjects. In some cases it also subverts their role as an intermediary between the individual and supernatural entities."

Now for more on this "extraordinary evidence":

No. Biology teaches us that brain cells die within three to seven minutes after cardiac failure.

Quoting from the near-death site:
Quote from: Dr. Peter Fenwick
"The brain isn't functioning. It's not there. It's destroyed. It's abnormal. But, yet, it can produce these very clear experiences ... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences [an NDE], you come out with clear, lucid memories ... This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact."

Quote from: Larry Dossey, MD
"The modern tradition of equating death with an ensuing nothingness can be abandoned. For there is no reason to believe that human death severs the quality of the oneness in the universe."
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Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

With regard to this current subject, what exactly are you saying?
I'm saying the idea that human mind can operate outside the human brain is an extraordinarily wild claim, and therefore requires extraordinarily solid evidence to support its belief.



Quantify your self-evident experience of subjectivity.
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Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

With regard to this current subject, what exactly are you saying?
I'm saying the idea that human mind can operate outside the human brain is an extraordinarily wild claim, and therefore requires extraordinarily solid evidence to support it.

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You are claiming it, then, right?

After all, claiming that we don't know, as I claimed, is not the same as claiming that it is fact, like you seem to be claiming.

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

With regard to this current subject, what exactly are you saying?
I'm saying the idea that human mind can operate outside the human brain is an extraordinarily wild claim, and therefore requires extraordinarily solid evidence to support its belief.

legendary
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Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

With regard to this current subject, what exactly are you saying?

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
legendary
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Does the human mind go on after death?
No. Biology teaches us that brain cells die within three to seven minutes after cardiac failure. Nature is extremely efficient at breaking down human corpses. Decomposition is well under way by the time burial or cremation occurs. However, the exact rate of decomposition depends to some extent on environmental conditions.

Decomposition in the air is twice as fast as when the body is under water and four times as fast as underground. Corpses are preserved longer when buried deeper, as long as the ground isn't waterlogged.

Science doesn't know for a fact that the human mind isn't something that operates partially outside the human brain.

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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Are you autistic?
Nope, I fall within the median standard deviation on the autistic spectrum. That's one of the first decent questions you've asked me, though! Not at all a bad guess.
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Does the human mind go on after death?
No. Biology teaches us that brain cells die within three to seven minutes after cardiac failure. Nature is extremely efficient at breaking down human corpses. Decomposition is well under way by the time burial or cremation occurs. However, the exact rate of decomposition depends to some extent on environmental conditions.

Decomposition in the air is twice as fast as when the body is under water and four times as fast as underground. Corpses are preserved longer when buried deeper, as long as the ground isn't waterlogged.

Are you autistic?  Smiley
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Does the human mind go on after death?
No. Biology teaches us that brain cells die within three to seven minutes after cardiac failure. Nature is extremely efficient at breaking down human corpses. Decomposition is well under way by the time burial or cremation occurs. However, the exact rate of decomposition depends to some extent on environmental conditions.

Decomposition in the air is twice as fast as when the body is under water and four times as fast as underground. Corpses are preserved longer when buried deeper, as long as the ground isn't waterlogged.
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