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Topic: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God - page 11. (Read 37219 times)

legendary
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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.

That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind.

Does the human mind go on after death? The only evidence that we have for something like this, comes from outside the human mind. Science doesn't say it at all! Obviously, there are greater religions than the human mind.

Smiley
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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.

That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind.
legendary
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Of course it does. Liathon is so venomously intolerant of religion because it is competition for his own religion
Religion is technically in competition with science, but only in the same sad meaningless irrelevant way that the Amish are in "competition" with Amazon.com for furniture sales. Or the way stone tablets are in "competition" with computers.

You have no hope, theists, none at all.

There you go again selectively editing my quotes to fit your argument, then "agreeing" with me in order to attempt to subsidize my viewpoint as your own in a pathetic attempt to try to make me look self contradictory.

Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.

This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.
hero member
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Of course it does. Liathon is so venomously intolerant of religion because it is competition for his own religion
Religion is technically in competition with science, but only in the same farcical way that the Amish are in "competition" with Amazon.com for furniture sales. Or the way stone tablets are in "competition" with computers for information storage.

You have no hope, theists, none at all.
legendary
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It is scary if a nation has no belief, or the nation destroys belief which was rooted in the heart of all the people for several centuries.
Of course, change is always scary, most especially when you can't see the past horizon. But it's folly to fear the inevitable. Change is the only constant, and now the world is changing faster than ever before.

We must learn to embrace change, because it has surely embraced us.



Sounds like a religion  Smiley

Of course it does. Liathon is so venomously intolerant of religion because it is competition for his own religion, the religion of the totalitarian socialist state. He even uses religious imagery and phrases in his arguments thinking it makes him look cool and ironic, but in reality it just shows us all what a hypocritical dope he is.
hero member
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It is scary if a nation has no belief, or the nation destroys belief which was rooted in the heart of all the people for several centuries.
Of course, change is always scary, most especially when you can't see the past horizon. But it's folly to fear the inevitable. Change is the only constant, and now the world is changing faster than ever before.

We must learn to embrace change, because it has surely embraced us.



Sounds like a religion  Smiley
hero member
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It is scary if a nation has no belief, or the nation destroys belief which was rooted in the heart of all the people for several centuries.
Of course, change is always scary, most especially when you can't see the past horizon. But it's folly to fear the inevitable. Change is the only constant, and now the world is changing faster than ever before.

We must learn to embrace change, because it has surely embraced us.

hero member
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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
Quite a fallacious, cowardly, and intellectually dishonest way to "debate".

He's not even pretending to debate. He's trolling. He's probably not even an atheist.
sr. member
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It is scary if a nation has no belief, or the nation destroys belief which was rooted in the heart of all the people for several centuries.
newbie
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True. Not only this but there are peoples like polish, Hungarians, Baltic pays that consider sex a free thing are very available in those kind of things. Not that they are degenerated people but consider those things free things and more normal to happen than the other peoples.
legendary
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By the way, I don't merely promote sex for pleasure. I promote a human existence which holistically maximizes pleasure and minimizes suffering.


Not a coincidence americans care only about pleasures nowadays  Smiley Every time when an empire or a civilization is declining, people are obsessed with sex and pleasures but luckily there will soon arrive warlords, tribes and armies to take over what's left  Smiley

There are peoples that have the pleasure as a normal way to live. All the Europeans for example. They cannot imagine their life without pleasure. Not only sex (that is normal) but every kind of it. For the Americans (which love the work) this is strange and for that are people that seems strange when even some Americans love to have pleasure.
legendary
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So you are only able to provide video of some hipster instead of making your own argument?

Of course, he has a habit of doing this. If he doesn't make his own arguments then he can never be proven wrong because he never states the supposed self proclaimed factual basis from which he derives his ideology. In this way he can have an endless argument over opinions while never once supporting his stance with scientific studies. Just look a few posts back, he just cited the entire bibliography of a book as if the collection of studies some how support his argument in whole, absolving himself from the responsibility of supporting any one individual study. Quite a fallacious, cowardly, and intellectually dishonest way to "debate".
hero member
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By the way, I don't merely promote sex for pleasure. I promote a human existence which holistically maximizes pleasure and minimizes suffering.


Not a coincidence americans care only about pleasures nowadays  Smiley Every time when an empire or a civilization is declining, people are obsessed with sex and pleasures but luckily there will soon arrive warlords, tribes and armies to take over what's left  Smiley
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All of those "benefits" in favor of sex-for-pleasure may be achieved by the use of hypnosis, which is not only free but is always readily-available to anyone, and carries no risks; on the other hand, sex is GOD's gift of creative union for procreation; it was not created for you to use to gratify your senses.

Should we ignore the suffering that is directly caused by such ego-gratifying behavior? Why have you refused to discuss the subject of personal responsibility?

Knowledge, not ignorance.
Truth, not falsehood.
Wisdom, not folly.
Love, not hatred.
Kindness, not cruelty.
Solidarity, not apathy.
Compassion, not greed.

IT IS NOT "LOVE", RESPONSIBILITY, NOR EVEN CARING, WHEN ONE WOULD GIVE FATAL DISEASE UNTO THAT OTHER HE CLAIMS TO ABIDE WITH IN LOVE.

I perceive that you are promoting false messages about sex; sex-for-pleasure has consequences, and you choose to ignore them.

Sex-for-pleasure is a holistic way to minimize suffering???
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Beliathon and MMH promote sex-for-pleasure, but what about the effects of this kind of behavior?
Eight Health Benefits of Sex:

1. Sexercise is cardio, that's healthy
2. Lowers blood pressure
3. Reduces risk of heart attack
4. Eases pain, orgasms can even block chronic pain
5. Reduces risk of prostate cancer (for men) / Improves bladder control (for women)
6. Improves sleep
7. Reduces stress which in turn
8. Boosts the immune system

By the way, I don't merely promote sex for pleasure. I promote a human existence which holistically maximizes pleasure and minimizes suffering.

Pleasure, not pain.
Dignity, not drudgery.
Liberty, not tyranny.
Reason, not violence.
Science, not superstition.
Sufficiency, not waste.
Knowledge, not ignorance.
Truth, not falsehood.
Wisdom, not folly.
Love, not hatred.
Kindness, not cruelty.
Solidarity, not apathy.
Compassion, not greed.

There stands my philosophy. It stands opposed to religion and deception, it stands opposed to banks and loans, it stands opposed to nations and borders, it stands opposed to poverty and starvation, it stands opposed to war and murder, it stands opposed to capitalism and exploitation.
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Even if you have stopped talking to me, I will continue the conversation so that all may recognize the truth and gain knowledge. Beliathon and MMH promote sex-for-pleasure, but what about the effects of this kind of behavior? Should we ignore the suffering that is directly caused by such ego-gratifying behavior? Why have neither of these two been willing to discuss the subject of personal responsibility?

God doesn't punish; mankind is punishing itself with over-population and disease because mankind does not want to recognize the truth about sex--that it is god's gift of creative union for the purpose of procreation.

perhaps the OP does not know that sex for selfish reasons is a dangerous and unbalanced act.
I could not disagree more strongly. Sexual nirvana is the key to peace on Earth.

And WHAT exactly is your reasoning? I have provided mine, and you have yet to examine it; you dismiss all that has been written but propose no knowledge of your own; that is why I am asking: are you speaking in ignorance? Here is another quote:

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Again, the laws of balance are LOGICAL, meaning they were created specifically to maintain BALANCE within The Creation.

Now remember the law of "Cause and Effect". The EFFECTS of breaking this one directive of GOD are all about you today. Over-Population and the spread of fatal venereal and blood-borne diseases, such as Syphilis and AIDS, are proving to be YOUR self-punishment to the point of creating the nearly complete destruction of your human species on Earth.
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"fear not" appears 71 times in the bible.
That's very basic reverse psychology. It's no different than this shit here:






When an advertisement tells you to LOVE YOUR BODY, it's really reminding you that you HATE IT. It's designed to help you arrive at the conclusion that you should buy their product to alleviate that hatred.

When an advertisement tells you to SAVE MONEY BY BUYING _____, it's really telling you to SPEND money. As an exercise, try replacing the word "save" with "spend" everywhere you see or hear it in an ad.

When a religious book tells you FEAR NOT, the true intent is to remind you of the fear the book itself has already inspired in you - that terrible fear of ETERNAL HELLFIRE.

That's why FEAR NOT is in the bible 71 times, the authors knew you'd need a TON of reminders about your fear. Fear is not a natural state, after all. Infants come into this world trusting of all strangers. Why do you suppose that is?
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So much thought, so much effort, so much energy wasted denying what is right in front of your eyes. I know you're afraid theists, afraid of the unknown.

But there's nothing to fear, there never has been. The unknown is nothing more than a shadow on the wall.

No matter how much you want to believe that, theists aren't afraid. Why should they be?
Jealous magical skyfather who judges them and will possibly decide to burn them in hellfire for eternity? I'd be terrified!

The only people who would have to fear that are those who don't know and love God, don't treat others as they'd like to be treated.


Those who turn away from sin, and follow God, don't fear.

"fear not" appears 71 times in the bible.
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So much thought, so much effort, so much energy wasted denying what is right in front of your eyes. I know you're afraid theists, afraid of the unknown.

But there's nothing to fear, there never has been. The unknown is nothing more than a shadow on the wall.

No matter how much you want to believe that, theists aren't afraid. Why should they be?
Jealous magical skyfather who judges your life and will possibly decide to burn you in hellfire for eternity? I'd be terrified!

Well, I'll leave you to your flagellation. Get to it, you don't wanna risk eternity in Hell!



I'm gonna go masturbate.



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I find it absolutely amazing, that this thread didnt die yet.

While you singularites keep discussing this nonsense, guess what religious people do? Pump more babies. Actually in Africa fertility levels leveled off (stopped falling) at around 4.5 kids per womb. That means doubling of population every generation.

So keep talking. Religious nuts dont even have to argue with you, hell they dont even have to learn how to write and read. They will simply breed you all out of gene pool.



^^this!!!

Nutcases rule the world!!!

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Europe will be swarmed by religious nutcases!!!
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