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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:30:50 AM

Entropy started immediately upon sin coming into the world. Using the word "entropy" is a lot easier than trying to explain it every time I want to talk about it. Nothing better to do than play bantering games?

Entropy started at the universe's creation - the Big Bang. Your idea of good vs bad had nothing to do with it.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 05:22:30 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:20:30 AM

Well, isn't that what speaking is all about? We wouldn't be speaking back and forth if we didn't have something of a similar language, right? So, what of gravity or other scientific terms. We use whatever language we understand to express it.

You wouldn't be using science words such as "entropy" unless you actually believed in the science behind it.

So I'm curious, where in science do you stop believing in the facts, and start believing in Harry Potter?

Entropy started immediately upon sin coming into the world. Using the word "entropy" is a lot easier than trying to explain it every time I want to talk about it. Nothing better to do than play bantering games?

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:26:45 AM

The only atheistic fact that there is, is that you believe superficially that atheism exists. Everything inside atheism is understood by faith.

More nonsense. I don't need to have faith when I have science. Science is what will happen. Faith is what you hope will happen.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

If your arguments are based on science and fact, it is by accident, because you don't know any of it.

Yet I continue to be right, as usual. You can't disprove any of my facts any more than you can prove any of your beliefs.

I think you need to stick to your church where people will believe anything you say. Here, on a bitcoin forum, you aren't doing too well.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 05:18:44 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:17:35 AM

That's what faith is all about, be it my religion of Christianity, or your religion of atheism.

There is no faith required to be an atheist. We believe in facts.

The only atheistic fact that there is, is that you believe superficially that atheism exists. Everything inside atheism is understood by faith.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 05:18:09 AM

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:38:48 AM

Show me where in the bible it says that god savored his work, fool.

Easy to post things - more difficult to back them up with proof. That's why you stick to your churches, for you need prove nothing to the brainwashed.

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Showed you already. But I'll re-show it, because this thread is growing by leaps and bounds, and you might have missed it.

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God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So it doesn't say anywhere he "savored" it - that was just an opinion your priest gave you.

Stick to your church, fool. Wink

You don't have any imagination at all, do you?

Ah, so your interpretations of the bible are based on imagination. Well, my arguments are based on science and fact.

You lose.

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If your arguments are based on science and fact, it is by accident, because you don't know any of it.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:20:30 AM

Well, isn't that what speaking is all about? We wouldn't be speaking back and forth if we didn't have something of a similar language, right? So, what of gravity or other scientific terms. We use whatever language we understand to express it.

You wouldn't be using science words such as "entropy" unless you actually believed in the science behind it.

So I'm curious, where in science do you stop believing in the facts, and start believing in Harry Potter?

BADecker

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 05:05:40 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:03:59 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:46:39 AM

Science defined it, and you use that definition.

But it was there long before science defined it.

Do you understand what science is? It doesn't invent - it understands.

Gravity existed for billions of years before we discovered it.

The fact is, you need to use scientific principals to explain your fairy tales - so you have to believe in them a little.

Well, isn't that what speaking is all about? We wouldn't be speaking back and forth if we didn't have something of a similar language, right? So, what of gravity or other scientific terms. We use whatever language we understand to express it.

Vod

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:17:35 AM

That's what faith is all about, be it my religion of Christianity, or your religion of atheism.

There is no faith required to be an atheist. We believe in facts.

Vod

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:15:39 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:59:35 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:58:33 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:38:48 AM

Show me where in the bible it says that god savored his work, fool.

Easy to post things - more difficult to back them up with proof. That's why you stick to your churches, for you need prove nothing to the brainwashed.

Roll Eyes

Showed you already. But I'll re-show it, because this thread is growing by leaps and bounds, and you might have missed it.

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God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So it doesn't say anywhere he "savored" it - that was just an opinion your priest gave you.

Stick to your church, fool. Wink

You don't have any imagination at all, do you?

Ah, so your interpretations of the bible are based on imagination. Well, my arguments are based on science and fact.

You lose.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 05:03:54 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:02:20 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:42:55 AM

Imagine that you have two people who are really bad people. And let's say that they are just about the same in the quality and quantity of bad stuff that they do. One of the guys dies at age 25, the other at age 50. In the resurrection, which of the two will thank God for death more? Won't it be the guy who died younger? After all, he will have 25 years of sin to be punished for throughout all eternity in hell. Thank God He lets us die.

How can you thank someone if you are dead?

Your scenario makes no sense.

Huh

I know, who has time to read the whole thing?

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... In the resurrection...

But you said the men died. There is no proof (or even evidence of any kind) for resurrection, so we don't consider it.

Dead men cannot thank anyone.

Wink

That's what faith is all about, be it my religion of Christianity, or your religion of atheism.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:13:45 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:55:57 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:54:20 AM

The complexity of the universe is the evidence for God. And not only is it evidence, but it is evidence that comes closer to proof than any other evidence does for anything else, while at the same time, not being proof.

The universe is not complex. It started out as nothing but hydrogen. Simplest thing you can have.

That is evidence and proof there is no god.

And you are just the guy (or are you a gal?) who knows this for an absolute fact, right? Grin

I know there is no evidence for god, yes. It's called common sense.

Are you getting tired, BADecker? You've made 9 pages of nonsense posts, proven nothing, you have EVERYONE posting against you, and yet you continue on with your "I am special" smile, posting nothing but your priest's opinion on the bible.

You remind me a lot of dank - another fool with a damaged mind for with there is no arguing.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:59:35 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:58:33 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:38:48 AM

Show me where in the bible it says that god savored his work, fool.

Easy to post things - more difficult to back them up with proof. That's why you stick to your churches, for you need prove nothing to the brainwashed.

Roll Eyes

Showed you already. But I'll re-show it, because this thread is growing by leaps and bounds, and you might have missed it.

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God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So it doesn't say anywhere he "savored" it - that was just an opinion your priest gave you.

Stick to your church, fool. Wink

You don't have any imagination at all, do you?

BADecker

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:55:57 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:54:20 AM

The complexity of the universe is the evidence for God. And not only is it evidence, but it is evidence that comes closer to proof than any other evidence does for anything else, while at the same time, not being proof.

The universe is not complex. It started out as nothing but hydrogen. Simplest thing you can have.

That is evidence and proof there is no god.

And you are just the guy (or are you a gal?) who knows this for an absolute fact, right? Grin

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:08:58 AM

He was able. You and I will never have all the answers for the reasons why God does things...

But he wasn't able! You're making it up!

Your god creates a male/female of every animal, yet only creates a male human.

He then sees adam is lonely, and as an afterthought creates a female.

If he was able to see adam was going to be lonely, he would have created eve when he created adam. Why would he remove a rib and damage adam in the process?

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Quote from: luckypyrate on October 21, 2014, 04:53:57 AM

Actually science has completely disproven free will, if you follow Sam Harris's neuroscientific research...

From the standpoint of man, this is correct, the no free will part, I mean.

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:53:40 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:52:09 AM

Actually, if the atheist scientist sat down and thought about it, he would realize that he doesn't believe in free will. How's that? Because everything that science revolves around has to do with cause and effect. There is evidence for nothing else in this universe. And the more a scientist is a scientist, the more he delves into the reason fror things... cause and effect, action and reaction. This means that there is no pure random. This means that evolution, if it exists, is "pre-programmed." This means that a universe that could cause-and-effect things for billions of years had a much greater Great First Cause than a universe that is only 6,000 years old.

If this is true, and there is no random, why wasn't your god able to see that mankind would become evil and he would have to drown them all?

Why couldn't your god see adam would be lonely? How hard is it to see that?

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He was able. You and I will never have all the answers for the reasons why God does things... not in this life anyway. But, often God hides things from Himself because He wants to live through them as they happen, just to see and experience them something like we do. It's part of what gives Him enjoyment. Remember, it is your pushing Him away from yourself that will cause your destruction if you will not change.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:03:59 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:46:39 AM

Science defined it, and you use that definition.

But it was there long before science defined it.

Do you understand what science is? It doesn't invent - it understands.

Gravity existed for billions of years before we discovered it.

The fact is, you need to use scientific principals to explain your fairy tales - so you have to believe in them a little.

BADecker

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Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:46:39 AM

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:28:41 AM

Entropy, my not so good man, entropy.

Exactly. Science is the answer to everything. You can't even explain your god without using science.

Wink

What? You actually think science invented entropy?

Science defined it, and you use that definition.

But it was there long before science defined it.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 05:02:20 AM

Quote from: Vod on October 21, 2014, 04:43:55 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 21, 2014, 04:42:55 AM

Imagine that you have two people who are really bad people. And let's say that they are just about the same in the quality and quantity of bad stuff that they do. One of the guys dies at age 25, the other at age 50. In the resurrection, which of the two will thank God for death more? Won't it be the guy who died younger? After all, he will have 25 years of sin to be punished for throughout all eternity in hell. Thank God He lets us die.

How can you thank someone if you are dead?

Your scenario makes no sense.

Huh

I know, who has time to read the whole thing?

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... In the resurrection...

But you said the men died. There is no proof (or even evidence of any kind) for resurrection, so we don't consider it.

Dead men cannot thank anyone.

Wink

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