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There are levels to the ground game and his recent losses were against Khabib Nurmagomedov and Charles Oliveira who are elite ground technicians and that too to rear naked choke and they were able to submit him when he was exhausted. Against Islam who is yet another elite ground specialist, he could have a chance with his boxing skills as he is an elite striker but he could hold his ground against other ground fighters.

Yes I know that but it's about Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje and Poirier once beat Gaethje by TKO so he wants revenge by fighting Poirier.
He's still 34 years old he could still fight a few fights before deciding to retire so even if he loses to Gaethje I'm not sure he'll retire.
His fight with McGregor did make a lot of money but this is not about money but also about his career and pride when he loses he retires immediately.
I'm sure if Poirier loses he will prepare everything and decide to fight Gaethje again.

Though we saw them before, Gaeth vs Poirier is an exciting fight. Can't say who's better this time but whoever wins at least we see another Islam fight. But I'm going to stick with Poirier to win. Hed done before and can do it again.

But since TopTort77 mention Poirier has no defence against ground games, he might lose against Islam. Too ironic to see a BJJ belt holder can not defend himself against a BJJ attack.

Wdym?  Poirier has lost only vs Oliveira in his last 5 matches who's beast in his own right.  I think both these guys just wants one more shot at the title at 155 then retire.  Poirier fought McGregor twice and won.  He made enough money off of him there.  Gaethje on the other hand could be the hungrier guy here.  So this time around I think I'll have Gaethje.  But the lines are kinda close with Gaethje the slight underdog at 2.05 atm...  Hopefully the line moves and gives a tad more value for Gaethje.

Another thing is I think Poirier will retire if he loses...  Just a hunch.

I don't really want to engage with this kind of topic anymore in comparing Boxing with MMA, because we already dealt with this in the past, and with the kind of payment boxing and MMA got it really has a different depth in it that could be talking about in many ways, but it will not have any closure at all and this will just continue sorry but it really annoys me but you guys are always welcome in the opening such topic but just like this I will just make approvement because any discussion is not really wrong,


Well, I have seen a video of Tyson Fury saying that he ain't going in no cage, talking to Israel Adesanya so I really think that Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones inside the MMA cage will surely not happen for sure, for sure just like you have said Fury is always careful and greedy he would not be taking any fight at all if he is not winning it that is what I think about Tyson Fury,

If you say that there are opportunities, maybe both of them have the same opportunities, but there will still be their respective advantages that can differentiate them.
But Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje fought in 2018 and Dustin Poirier managed to finish the fight by TKO.
Maybe it was because of that defeat that was one of the reasons Gaethje challenged Poirier to fight and at the same time to fight for the BMF title.
Even though lately Poirier hasn't been fighting very well but with the fight for the belt I'm sure he can fight very well after all this is also proof that Poirier is better than Gaethje.

Fury was very clear when he said that he can fight Jon Jones or anyone else only in boxing, and I respect that.
Dana is just trying to save the whole situation after Ngannou signed a new deal with PFL and announced with Fury, so he tried to ruined this for him.
Can you imagine he is calling world undisputed heavyweight boxing champion to make adventure excursion in MMA, that is so unrealistic and he knows it was all bullshit.

True that. I don't see Fury going to UFC fight when he can earn what Dana can offer in boxing. But if Jones wants to earn more than Dana could offer, he might just jump to boxing regardless of win or lose the record won't matter if it comes to making more after all boxing is not his sports. That will be an excuse.

But Dana offering all these money while some champ earn less than 100k per fight makes it reasonable for Ngannou not to sign a new contract.

Comparing boxing to UFC is like comparing basketball's NBA to football. So how much do MMA and boxers receive regularly?

UFC is like Matchroom or Top Rank or PBC or Golden Boy in boxing. The difference is that the UFC is bigger than these 4 biggest boxing promotions combined. So why is it that they are less valued when Matchroom is paying Canelo and Joshua around $20 to $50 million per fight? Simple, the UFC makes PPV events to earn money while in boxing PPVs are made to pay fighters they cannot afford. The UFC takes nearly all of the PPV revenues while superstars in boxing will get 70% to even 100% of the revenues in their PPVs. The same reason why HBO left boxing is that PPVs involve a lot of money guarantees which is risky if it flops while it only takes a little to zero of the revenue.

Only 2 events per year in boxing? This weekend there are 5 championship fights in separate events. DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime have weekly events most of the time. So since the UFC has its own weekly events as well, does it mean it is losing money to many of its events which is why it needs to save money from their other events? Every event is supposed to earn revenue otherwise why stage the event? The UFC is earning a billion each year, does this sounds like it is having a hard time maintaining the purse of its fighters?


Fury may sound dumb at times and I would gladly love to see him getting choked cold by Jon. But the reality is Fury is always careful and greedy when it comes to money and his undefeated record. And Jon actually has no say if he wants to earn big bucks against Fury. Fury probably earned around a hundred million dollars in his last 3 fights, why would he allow Dana and Jon to dictate the terms? Belly was probably laughing and mocking after seeing and hearing Dana's statement.

This is not the first time Gaethji does eye poking. Exactly against Poirier he did same and was deducted one point for that (even though he was TKOed later). But I believe that was really unintentionally. Justin does not look like a kind of guy who uses dirty tricks (line Bones for example) to win. These accidental eyes poker were due to form of UFC gloves. I think every year I raise an attention to that, that UFC gloves are bad, and gloves of Pride era were perfect (as they cover knuckles and fingers greatly).

A traditional title like this well for me it is not really nonexisting but for the traditional UFC fans it could surely mean a lot and the nostalgia that it brought and surely it is because of Jorge Mazdival's dedication to the never give up a thing, and yeah Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje will continue on the legacy of that BMF title and whoever wins this will surely get that belt, for you is Dustin Poirier but for me, I like Justin Gaethje, for me, I like a more in-depth in technicality than with just absolute brawling, and I think that Justin Gaethje is the guy,


I agree, this is one cool fight to watch for sure, and just like you I prefer Justin Gaethje more for me he doesn't really into brawling if he could be more technical to the stand-up he could be and those kicks that have a massive advantage over boxing for sure, and I have to watch his fight against Rafael Fiziev it was a banger and it was a war I think I have gone with Rafael Fiziev if my memory is correct, but yeah it was an eye poke that causes Fiziev to fight Gaethje with just one eye, but for sure Justin Gaethje is more compose and collected towards the fight so for me I will surely go with Justin Gaethje,

I would say that both have equal chances to win. Both prefer striking and brawl over tactics and ground game of chess. Both lost have losses against champs (Oliveira and Khabib) and have victories against top fighter (Chandler). On paper, Gaethji recent fights looks better. A victory over Fiziev I value more than a victory over McGregor via doctors stoppage in first round. Last years Fiziev is more dangerous than McGregor. Gaethji is famous for kicks, Poirier is better at boxing. The one who has higher pain threshold wins that fight.

Imho Gaethji looks more motivated to win. After two losses by submission, Poirier has lost that sparkle in his eyes. Does not matter if he has black BJJ belt, he does not know how to defend from bjj and wrestling attacks. And after a lost to Khabib he was like a cry baby, because he does not know how to beat wrestling/bjj guys.

Yes, the BMF title is currently vacant, so 2 brutal fighters meet to fight over it. Jorge Masvidal himself has decided to retire some time ago and the news about his decision to retire has become a trending topic because he is one of the great fighters in his class. .
From that fight I have a feeling that Dustin Poirier will win the fight and get the title.
After all, Poirier is a pretty great and brutal fighter so he doesn't hesitate to attack his opponent until he is injured.
I will prepare a sum of money to bet on Poirier's victory.

Well, I totally agree with your point and you have explained it more clearly, there is a big difference between Boxing and MMA pay and we can not take that out and different sponsorship Boxing have many well know personnel that want to watch for example a Mayweather or a Pacquiao fight, while the MMA there are a ton of events and fights that may share those millions or PPV and ticket sale and every week there will be an event for the UFC or MMA so yeah it will surely cost a lot, with all of this I now have scratch my head thinking if PFL and Ngannou did the right thing,


I surely don't like the idea of this aswell Tyson Fury might unwittingly agree to the situation it all just started on what Joe Rogan has said if Jon Jones and Tyson Fury would lock themselves in a room who would come out unscathed we all know that Rogan is a big supporter for Jon Jones, for sure Tyson Fury is not happen about this statement and so they surely backlash on Social media until the rest is history gaining momentum to the idea for Dana White to get this fight on moving,


Well, just like you I am putting all my chips on black aswell There is no doubt Jon Jones could eventually see an opening to Tyson Fury for sure, and many have said that it will be a very one-sided fight for Jon Jones, I am waiting if the event would really happen,

Looks like you are not clear about the offer Dana White provided, he offered Tyson Fury an open contract to fight in the UFC with MMA rules and not a Boxing contract. The fact is Tyson Fury is the greatest Boxer and no one would defeat him in Boxing but when it comes to MMA Jon Jones is the GOAT.

There is a contract stipulation that every PPV must have a title belt on the line and hence they have given interim belt earlier during main event when there was no champion in the main event and now they have given the BMF title for Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje.

Hard to realize his announcement was so silent The media did no buzz much about it. That is strange, compared to hype he has got from that Ben Askren knee KO And was also on front label of EA UFC video game Got BMF belt. And silently retired. He wasnt a brilliant fighter, but he was a recognizable figure in UFC

I havent heard anything about JJ and Miocic fight being cancelled, but somewhere I have seen fan posters of Miocic vs Pavlovich.

But I have heard that Aljo and Dana has some issues. Dana is already promoting Aljo vs O'Malley fight in August/September, and all of a sudden Aljo says that this fight might happen only if he has time to recover from injuries. Such attitude pisses Dana, because one of his slaves tries to manage fight how he wants Drama, drama, drama...

^  I did and I didn't really care.  Lmao.  I mean he was good for the UFC and is a character but let's face it...  He wasn't really a brilliant fighter.  Good to see him have his little streak before losing to Usman tho.

Anyway, you know the UFC is running out of ideas when they have a BMF fight and a match up between two fighters that no one wants to see fight right now.  Lol...  And I'm also hearing Jones vs Miocic is off?  :/

First I wanted to comment, that how the hell they gonna fight for BMF title, if that title belongs to Jorge Masvidal, so I went googling to post that fact. But I was surprised to find out that Jorge Masvidal announced that he retired after his lost to Burns in April 8. Am I the only one who has missed the fact that Jorge Masvidal has finished his career? Good for him, he is 38, and had 52 professional fights. IT was a good time to stop.

The UFC fighter with the nickname of the king of violence, namely Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaethje, will meet at UFC291, to be exact, on July 29, which will take place in Salt Lake City.
Their fight will be the main card later to fight for the BMF title.
And this will be quite a brutal battle where both of them can attack each other without mercy.

Source : https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1658964161597153281?t=YoIKxMTUsiG5i6Sxi8bo0g&s=19

They will be the co-main event for UFC 291 Dustin Poirier versus Justin Gaethje on July 29. Alex Pereira will have loads of time to increase that weight back to light heavyweight and I do believe his body is made for that weight class. Sure, Jan Blachowicz will have his chance for a title fight if he wins this match but so does Pereira, and this might be the realizing point for Alex that he is made for this weight instead of going down to middleweight if he ever he win the bout.
I am also rooting for Pereira here to win. I think I might even consider a knockout bet.