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May 24, 2023, 01:19:41 PM
Yeah sucks.  Lol.  At least it's an F1 weekend and I guess it's nice to watch a little bit of the EPL since it's the last set of fixtures of the season.  Can't wait for the next one and really try to get back into it.  The last couple of years I'd try to get into it then get bored three months in.  :/
Lets hope this grand prix race will happen because it sucked to have event canceled last week because if bad weather.
All MMA fans can watch LFA 159 event this week, they are working under UFC and it looks like nice all Brazil fighters compete this time.

From UFC news I heard Jan Blachowicz asked for a fight against Alex Pereira and UFC agreed and told him title fight is next if he manages to bear Pereira.
I dont think Blachowicz can beat him, but weight difference could play important role in this fight, and I think this is last chance for Blachowicz to try and get title back again.
My early bet is Pereira to win by decision.
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May 24, 2023, 11:50:43 AM
Well I agree with you we can not compare boxing with MMA because it is all different but if an MMA fighter will be fighting for boxing rules or a boxer will be fighting for the MMA rules the payment could still be the same or the payment for boxing should apply?
Lets start with what is "boxing payment" ? How much boxers get paid? If we put aside champions and those who are famous (like Mayweather), how much a regular boxer earn? I think I have posted here year or years ago, that average boxers payment is more or less equal to average UFC fighter get.
Now lets talk about how much UFC champion and boxing champion get. We all know that UFC champions get "lets say below several millions" probably. A champ like Makhachev, Izzy or Volkan would get a million probably. If we somehow get Chuck Liddell back and he becomes a champ, he would get millions. We all know that boxers get tens millions per fight.

The whole concept of boxing promotion and UFC promotion are different. We get like 1-2 boxing events per year, and around 40 UFC events. The money UFC spent on maintaining all of them are greater than few boxing fights. UFC dont have so much money to pay millions every champ and famous fighter. And boxing has richer sponsors. Who are UFC main sponsors? Reebok? Stake? Bunch of other famous brands. Having Hennessy as a boxing sponsor is greater than all UFC sponsors multiplied by ten. Hennessy, part of LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton group. Its owner, Bernard Arnault - richest person in the world; has double more money than Bezos Cheesy This guy wipes his ass with what UFC champ gets for a fight Grin

The UFC certainly missed a trick here. They could have done something to control the damage.

They could just give every average fighter $100k more added to the contract. But Dana White didn't do that and he even said that if you find somewhere else to go which will pay you more go there. That's what the fighters didn't like. Now they are genuinely searching for somewhere else to go. He could easily give at least $50k more to almost every fighter. That was certainly going to be enough to control the damage. And maybe give your champions $200k more. All the fighters would have stayed in my opinion if he did that.
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May 24, 2023, 11:37:51 AM

Ohgod Jones vs Fury will compromised Ngannou's plan. Dana really has an axe to grind and he's not going to just let Francis win all the way. But Dana will spend more to make this happen while all UFC fighters will be watching how cruel he can be to hurt the fighter he despise.

I doubt Jones will win however. Fury has been in boxing his entire career, the discipline is tougher than in MMA. If its in UFC you can expect Fury to be just a slouch but its boxing.
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May 24, 2023, 08:42:35 AM
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I truly believe that this PFL and Ngannou Collaboration will surely start a ripple in the MMA community no doubt about that, but Dana White will be Dana White knowing him he would likely just ignore all this but that PFL contract will surely be itching on the back of his head, I really think PFL would know about this that it will be the talk of the community but so far I really think this is a good start for a change, and right now because of that itch, Dana White is now promoting a Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones fight it all started with Joe Rogan saying that Jon Jones could beat Tyson Fury on a street fight and the boxing kingpin really doesn't like it at all and yeah that sets up to this statement here is what Dana White has said in the Article,

It was certainly very interesting to see how this took a turn. This is why I say Dana White is a marketing genius, lol.. He saw an opportunity to earn money and he took it with both hands. This is suddenly going to be very interesting if we see a fight between John Jones and Tyson Fury.

I see a very simple outcome of this fight. If this is a boxing fight the winner is going to be Tyson Fury. I am almost 80% sure about that. But if this comes down to MMA, just like Joe Rogan said, "I'm putting all my chips on black"  Grin
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May 24, 2023, 08:26:09 AM
^  Yeah but check who KKF has lost to and check who Albazi has won against in his 4 fight win streak in the UFC.  KKF def beats those guys.  The same could not be said if Albazi fought the last 5 guys KKF fought.  Well...  Maybe except for Cody Garbrandt because his chin is shot.  Cheesy  Toughness of schedule and quality of competition matters a lot imho.
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May 24, 2023, 07:59:22 AM
Anybody know why KKF is a slight underdog vs Albazi?  I think the line could flip.

Probably because Albazis record is better and he is on a series of victories, while KKF lost his previous fight. As well as Albazi has only two UD victories, when KKF's record is full of them Cheesy So for bookies it does not matter that KKF is higher in rating, because chance that Albazi will do an early finish is higher Cheesy
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May 24, 2023, 07:56:50 AM
I truly believe that this PFL and Ngannou Collaboration will surely start a ripple in the MMA community no doubt about that, but Dana White will be Dana White knowing him he would likely just ignore all this but that PFL contract will surely be itching on the back of his head, I really think PFL would know about this that it will be the talk of the community but so far I really think this is a good start for a change, and right now because of that itch, Dana White is now promoting a Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones fight it all started with Joe Rogan saying that Jon Jones could beat Tyson Fury on a street fight and the boxing kingpin really doesn't like it at all and yeah that sets up to this statement here is what Dana White has said in the Article, 
I have doubts about how good Tyson Fury is in the UFC, can he be as comfortable in the ring as he is in boxing? I understand that Fury is a self-confident guy, otherwise he could not be a champion, but the UFC is not boxing and Jon Jones is really a very dangerous fighter, I think that Fury will have almost no chance against Jones. Dana White can certainly organize this fight, I have no doubt about it, he gets along well with Fury and if he agrees, then White will organize this fight. But I think that Fury should abandon this idea, I don't know why he needs it.
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May 24, 2023, 07:29:13 AM
No event this weekend, and next weekend will be the only event I'll be able to watch for a few weeks. Hopefully, it'll be a good one. I was one fight from earning a decent amount last weekend. That always seems the case though, and the annoying bit was I had by submission or decision for Anthony, and he ended the fight via TKO in the third round. So, it was definitely a close one.

Yeah sucks.  Lol.  At least it's an F1 weekend and I guess it's nice to watch a little bit of the EPL since it's the last set of fixtures of the season.  Can't wait for the next one and really try to get back into it.  The last couple of years I'd try to get into it then get bored three months in.  :/

No event this weekend

UFC always offer some free fights to watch on their YouTube channel --> https://www.youtube.com/@ufc/videos.

In case someone is from the country, where free video hosting and torrents are blocked and their have access only to "legal stuff", there are always free fights in good quality from official UFC YouTube channel. Of course people can always find fights on YouTube, but a lot of them are with someone talking on background, creepy viewing angle and etc. That is why I suggest to check official channel for quality Cheesy  Cool

There's also MMACore for tape study purposes.  Quality isn't really good but it has most of the modern UFC matches available in their site.  Good enough.  Grin

Anybody know why KKF is a slight underdog vs Albazi?  I think the line could flip.
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May 24, 2023, 06:54:36 AM
No event this weekend

UFC always offer some free fights to watch on their YouTube channel --> https://www.youtube.com/@ufc/videos.

In case someone is from the country, where free video hosting and torrents are blocked and their have access only to "legal stuff", there are always free fights in good quality from official UFC YouTube channel. Of course people can always find fights on YouTube, but a lot of them are with someone talking on background, creepy viewing angle and etc. That is why I suggest to check official channel for quality Cheesy  Cool
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May 24, 2023, 06:35:09 AM
No event this weekend, and next weekend will be the only event I'll be able to watch for a few weeks. Hopefully, it'll be a good one. I was one fight from earning a decent amount last weekend. That always seems the case though, and the annoying bit was I had by submission or decision for Anthony, and he ended the fight via TKO in the third round. So, it was definitely a close one.
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May 24, 2023, 04:08:52 AM
Well I agree with you we can not compare boxing with MMA because it is all different but if an MMA fighter will be fighting for boxing rules or a boxer will be fighting for the MMA rules the payment could still be the same or the payment for boxing should apply?

Lets start with what is "boxing payment" ? How much boxers get paid? If we put aside champions and those who are famous (like Mayweather), how much a regular boxer earn? I think I have posted here year or years ago, that average boxers payment is more or less equal to average UFC fighter get.

Now lets talk about how much UFC champion and boxing champion get. We all know that UFC champions get "lets say below several millions" probably. A champ like Makhachev, Izzy or Volkan would get a million probably. If we somehow get Chuck Liddell back and he becomes a champ, he would get millions. We all know that boxers get tens millions per fight.

The whole concept of boxing promotion and UFC promotion are different. We get like 1-2 boxing events per year, and around 40 UFC events. The money UFC spent on maintaining all of them are greater than few boxing fights. UFC dont have so much money to pay millions every champ and famous fighter. And boxing has richer sponsors. Who are UFC main sponsors? Reebok? Stake? Bunch of other famous brands. Having Hennessy as a boxing sponsor is greater than all UFC sponsors multiplied by ten. Hennessy, part of LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton group. Its owner, Bernard Arnault - richest person in the world; has double more money than Bezos Cheesy This guy wipes his ass with what UFC champ gets for a fight Grin
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May 24, 2023, 02:16:47 AM

Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.

I truly believe that this PFL and Ngannou Collaboration will surely start a ripple in the MMA community no doubt about that, but Dana White will be Dana White knowing him he would likely just ignore all this but that PFL contract will surely be itching on the back of his head, I really think PFL would know about this that it will be the talk of the community but so far I really think this is a good start for a change, and right now because of that itch, Dana White is now promoting a Tyson Fury VS Jon Jones fight it all started with Joe Rogan saying that Jon Jones could beat Tyson Fury on a street fight and the boxing kingpin really doesn't like it at all and yeah that sets up to this statement here is what Dana White has said in the Article,

I doubt that UFC are going to re-watch their contracts and pay their fighters more. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, and this is just maybe. If one said he isnt paid enough, then if others would do same, it will ruin balance between fighters popularity, sales, fight reward. Many compare boxers salary and UFC fighters salary. I dont get why they compare boxing super star with fighters salary who is in the middle of the top. Why nobody speaks that UFC get fight of the night, KO and etc rewards, while boxers dont get that. Take average boxer and average UFC fighter. Both get more or less similar payment, but UFC fighter is able to get +50k for a knockout. Then who is getting paid more?

Why do people compare boxing and MMA anyway? Two different kind of sport. For example I have never seen beach football or mini 5 vs 5 football players complain that they get less than Ronaldo or Messi. Or field hockey complain that they dont get millions like Ovechkin.

Well, Dana White can literally ignore it if they don't want their contract pay then they can leave UFC, you can not surely see a difference in just a matter of seconds in the UFC with just a ripple of contract signing for PFL it will have to be successful for Dana White to move on his feet and do something himself, this is going to be a long weekend for the UFC,

Well I agree with you we can not compare boxing with MMA because it is all different but if an MMA fighter will be fighting for boxing rules or a boxer will be fighting for the MMA rules the payment could still be the same or the payment for boxing should apply?

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May 23, 2023, 04:52:41 PM
Of all those who left UFC, only Francis got up and made his way up again making Dana look like the bad guy.
Some UFC fighters are just silent about their complaints and just kiss ass like Cormier. While Dana has favorites like Conor who can do just about anything or Suga who can just step right on and get a belt fight.

I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.

even talking about this issue of privileging some and leaving others aside, I have seen many fighters who have had a career for many years but who only had a few fights and I don't need to be a fortune teller to know that the financial situation of these athletes with long careers and few fights they don't have a good financial situation, I don't know if it's because they don't attract much attention from the public or if it's because Dana doesn't like them or because the fights are only held on weekends, anyway, I don't know what really happens, but without a doubt that There should be equal treatment for everyone, even the losers should be treated well, but what seems to me is that the money that enters the UFC's pocket is more important than the life and well-being of all athletes

It's ironic that it's the athletes who risk their lives but the ones who end up with a lot of money are the guys in luxury suits, it's really a very unpleasant situation.

UFC generated ‘record revenues’ in 2022 including ‘the best sponsorship year ever’

I keep asking myself what their profit will be this year when they release the financial reports, meanwhile most athletes are complaining far away for fear of reprisals
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May 23, 2023, 12:16:38 PM
Ngannou's PFL contract will make UFC fighters underpaid and Sterling being very vocal of what he thinks about Dana. He must be ready to also go somewhere else, he's young and can go to any promotion thats not toxic.

First fight of Francis under PFL will be watched by every fans and his fellow fighters from all promotions thats for sure. They'll see that Francis did a right decision thinking they too could do it without Dana.

If the fighters are actually successful in transitioning to other fight clubs, you know, it is actually going to cause the UFC a lot of problems. I have to say if Francis can actually be successful it is going to make a lot of other fighters think about moving out to other fight clubs from UFC. That is suddenly going to reduce the revenue for UFC.

Of course, the fans are also going to go somewhere else other than the UFC for fun. And you cannot sell a fight if there are no people to watch that fight. If UFC does not make big changes and start paying the fighters a lot more they are going to get hit badly. And by the time Dana White is going to think of doing something it is going to be a little too late.
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May 23, 2023, 11:16:45 AM
I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

Dana White is best PFL promoter ever  Grin

Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.

Ngannou's PFL contract will make UFC fighters underpaid and Sterling being very vocal of what he thinks about Dana. He must be ready to also go somewhere else, he's young and can go to any promotion thats not toxic.

First fight of Francis under PFL will be watched by every fans and his fellow fighters from all promotions thats for sure. They'll see that Francis did a right decision thinking they too could do it without Dana.
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May 23, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
^  I'm hopeful tbh.  If there's some good money to be made for all people involved then I could see why a cross promotion bout isn't possible.  As a pure fan I'd just like to watch the best fighters go at it.  I really think Ngannou will give Jones his first KO. 

Anyway I found a new site that's gonna be a good replacement for Best Fight Odds...  It's called...  *drum roll* ...  Fight Odds.  Lol.

https://fightodds.io/

But it's really good as they have a tools section.  In there you could do some research and it even suggest which matches to tape study depending on which of the fighter's strengths you wanna look at. 
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May 23, 2023, 07:05:39 AM
I doubt that UFC are going to re-watch their contracts and pay their fighters more. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, and this is just maybe. If one said he isnt paid enough, then if others would do same, it will ruin balance between fighters popularity, sales, fight reward. Many compare boxers salary and UFC fighters salary. I dont get why they compare boxing super star with fighters salary who is in the middle of the top. Why nobody speaks that UFC get fight of the night, KO and etc rewards, while boxers dont get that. Take average boxer and average UFC fighter. Both get more or less similar payment, but UFC fighter is able to get +50k for a knockout. Then who is getting paid more?

Why do people compare boxing and MMA anyway? Two different kind of sport. For example I have never seen beach football or mini 5 vs 5 football players complain that they get less than Ronaldo or Messi. Or field hockey complain that they dont get millions like Ovechkin.
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May 23, 2023, 04:13:54 AM
I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

Dana White is best PFL promoter ever  Grin

Dana White is certainly looking like a bad guy or someone who can't run the UFC anymore. Now I am not saying that it's true. I believe he has done a really good job with the UFC so far. But at the same time, I also believe that the pay of a fighter should have gone up a lot more compared to what it is right now. So far no fighter has been able to get out of the UFC and make more money. Until Francis.

So, now a lot of the fighters are actually starting to think that they actually deserve more money and they are also opening up about it. But at the same time, I think they have to remember that they are not all Francis Ngannou Wink.
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May 23, 2023, 12:50:38 AM
Of all those who left UFC, only Francis got up and made his way up again making Dana look like the bad guy.
Some UFC fighters are just silent about their complaints and just kiss ass like Cormier. While Dana has favorites like Conor who can do just about anything or Suga who can just step right on and get a belt fight.

I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.

Well, surely Francis Ngannou is the only one who has the balls to set the course right if no one has the balls to loudly say it no one will surely be free from the hierarchy, well, it is really Unavoidable that Dana White will surely have his favorites I really think it is normal for more people to have a favorite thing, and in this case, I think Dana White doesn't really like Aljamain Sterling that he is fitting him with those top fight that he has recently given, It is clear that White doesn't really have respect for his fighters there maybe a couple of fighters but most of them they are replaceable,


I think this one's better than the last event on paper but the last event turned out to be a banger with a few matches turning out to be better than expected.  Lol.  I hope this one doesn't disappoint.

Matches to look out for are Lacera vs Blackshear, Santos vs Munoz, Kutateladze vs Mullarkey, Elliott vs Altamirano, the co main and the main event...  And it's another gap week.  :/  No UFC this weekend folks.

As I have said it was really a banger even though we are quick to judge the outcome of the event it delivers great results, while the next event could have potential but I really don't want to say it will be a great event anything can happen well what happens in the recent match that was probably a banger for some

Mackenzie Dern VS Angela Hill Even though it was a decision win, Mackenzie Dern was on top and was dominating Angela Hill, Dern doesn't have enough time to make a good position for her submission attempts, Dern has delivered a good performance,

Anthony Hernandez  VS Edmen Shahbazyan This is where the banger starts, these two have really great Edmen Shahbazyan has a great start but surely I was right when Choosing Hernandez, he got better control and has a lot of ways to defeat Edmen Shahbazyan,

Joaquin Buckley  VS Andre Fialho That unseen kick was awesome and Buckley can surely do it better,

Diego Ferreira VS Michael Johnson

Viacheslav Borshchev  VS  Maheshate

Viacheslav Borshchev  VS Maheshate

And so on,

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May 22, 2023, 06:17:14 PM
I'm curious if Francis can bring his UFC belt to the PFL to show off on stage because that will really make Dana crazy.
I think he is crazy already, and maybe it is time for him to retire from his job as a slave master.
Maybe Dana is overdosing with drugs a lot these days, he is now in conflict with another fighter Aljamain Sterling, who asked him to stop calling his name.
They had to make one hour video, Aljamain Sterling Responds To Dana Whites Criticisms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-2FA18BDFc

Dana White is best PFL promoter ever  Grin
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