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Quote from: cabron on September 11, 2024, 02:20:20 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2024, 10:34:52 AM

I'm just going to drop it here:

Israel Adesanya Drops Out Of UFC Pound-For-Pound Rankings For First Time Since 2019
https://www.sportscasting.com/uk/news/israel-adesanya-drops-out-of-ufc-pound-for-pound-rankings-for-first-time-since-2019/

So they dropped Izzy out of the pound-for-pound ranking in favour of Aljamain Sterling. I've no idea what are the criteria for getting to that ranking, but I'd say Izzy is still more deserving to be there than Aljo. But that's just my opinion.

He's still ranked number 2 contender in the Middleweight ranking, no changes here.

lol Aljo win by KO = 3 yet he ranked the 15th P4P. Maybe because he was once a champ. And maybe Izzy really did lose a lot of his charisma after his last fight and got into a road rage incident. Grin

There are a lot of guys whos presence in p4p ranking is questionable Cheesy

Like why there is still Volkanovski ? His record last years is similar to Izzy. 1 win and 3 losses. Oliveira isnt performing well lately. Or why Arman Tsarukyan is not in the list. But actually no one understand how p4p ranking is formed. It would be logical to put a champion and #1 of each division. But we have a total mix there.

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In UFC 306 we will see the main fight in the title fight that brings together the title holder Sean O'Malley against the challenger Merab Dvalishvili and this is fight that Sean O'Malley may still be able to win to retain the Batam class title.
This is his second fight in an attempt to defend the title after he got it by defeating Aljamain Sterling, in the fight Sean O'Malley against Merab Dvalishvili also still shows that Sean O'Malley is the favorite.
For the odds show Sean O'Malley with @ 1.78 and Merab Dvalishvili @ 2.14 and this is still decent odds if choose Sean O'Malley.

On the other hand there are some discussions that state that in this title defense fight Sean O'Malley really managed to win then he has the opportunity to meet Umar Nurmagomedov who will be the next challenger.
If all this really happens and Sean O'Malley fights Umar Nurmagomedov then it would be huge fight in the UFC.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2024, 10:34:52 AM

I'm just going to drop it here:

Israel Adesanya Drops Out Of UFC Pound-For-Pound Rankings For First Time Since 2019
https://www.sportscasting.com/uk/news/israel-adesanya-drops-out-of-ufc-pound-for-pound-rankings-for-first-time-since-2019/

So they dropped Izzy out of the pound-for-pound ranking in favour of Aljamain Sterling. I've no idea what are the criteria for getting to that ranking, but I'd say Izzy is still more deserving to be there than Aljo. But that's just my opinion.

He's still ranked number 2 contender in the Middleweight ranking, no changes here.

I agree with your opinion. While I do think that Izzy hasn’t been the same since being beaten by his nemesis in their first fight in the UFC, he still seems more deserving than Aljamain Sterling. I think both are on their way down though so it won’t matter much for too long. Izzy unfortunately seems to have gotten the yips. His issues are mental for sure.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 11, 2024, 10:34:52 AM

I'm just going to drop it here:

Israel Adesanya Drops Out Of UFC Pound-For-Pound Rankings For First Time Since 2019
https://www.sportscasting.com/uk/news/israel-adesanya-drops-out-of-ufc-pound-for-pound-rankings-for-first-time-since-2019/

So they dropped Izzy out of the pound-for-pound ranking in favour of Aljamain Sterling. I've no idea what are the criteria for getting to that ranking, but I'd say Izzy is still more deserving to be there than Aljo. But that's just my opinion.

He's still ranked number 2 contender in the Middleweight ranking, no changes here.

lol Aljo win by KO = 3 yet he ranked the 15th P4P. Maybe because he was once a champ. And maybe Izzy really did lose a lot of his charisma after his last fight and got into a road rage incident. Grin

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 10, 2024, 10:16:34 PM

@cabron. It also appears that Alalshikh is the sponsor of UFC 306 heheheheh. Did you hear what he said about Canelo's fight on September 14? He said we will eat him.

Not sure what his goal but because the guy comes from an abundantly rich country that wants to make all kinds of fights possible in their country, he surely wants to spread his name all over combat sports. He may really be running the show one day, taking over boxing and MMA.

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I'm just going to drop it here:

Israel Adesanya Drops Out Of UFC Pound-For-Pound Rankings For First Time Since 2019
https://www.sportscasting.com/uk/news/israel-adesanya-drops-out-of-ufc-pound-for-pound-rankings-for-first-time-since-2019/

So they dropped Izzy out of the pound-for-pound ranking in favour of Aljamain Sterling. I've no idea what are the criteria for getting to that ranking, but I'd say Izzy is still more deserving to be there than Aljo. But that's just my opinion.

He's still ranked number 2 contender in the Middleweight ranking, no changes here.

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Quote from: Synchronice on September 11, 2024, 07:19:33 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 11, 2024, 02:47:22 AM

So it turns out that this is another UFC vs boxing war? How simple. And stupid. Imho these are two different audiences, and fighting for their purse isnt smart. A true boxing fan will never turn his tv channel to watch UFC fight. Simply because boxing is a gentlemen fight and it isnt fair to "hit grounded opponent". The same as UFC fan most likely will see boxing as boring, because of limited variety of strikes.

Put Mike Tyson in boxing and I'll watch it 24/7. I think that sometimes it's certain athletes that make us watch sports and to be honest, that happens very often in my case. For example, I started watching football because of the hype that was around Messi and oh my, what a brilliant decision that was. I started watching UFC because of Conor McGregor too Cheesy

I never was his fan but he was so widely spoken that I watched one of his fight and then I liked it, then I liked athletes like Dustin Poirier, Tony Ferguson and so on.

Started watching UFC/MMA because one day YouTube showed brutal KO compilation in recommendations Cheesy

Have been watching it probably since 2009. Even though at that time boxing also had KO compilations, all those cuts, broken bones, blood and ability to use everything (that time I have watches Pride and Valetudo, where you can soccer kick or used head to headbutt) caught my attention more. From time to time I watch some football goal compilation and all I can say is WOW, but that never made watch 90+ min of guys kicking one ball, running and walking Cheesy

Enough of this. Lets get back to UFC 306. I know its not Friday yet (but some say that Wednesday is a little Friday), but here is something interesting. Dana White offers $25,000 to first person to find ‘Easter eggs’ in Sphere at UFC 306. I dont get it correctly probably, but I understand that they have organized a special event or show (or I dont know) during UFC event that already contains show elements Cheesy

Otherwise how come they show film elements and people hunt and try to solve that. I dont get it how to get those 25 grands Cheesy

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 05, 2024, 03:50:15 PM

~~Ladies and~~ gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-13817591/Conor-McGregor-ireland-president.html

McGregor has hinted before he would run for president one day and 7h ago he confirmed his plans on X:
https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1831676863334273494

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As President I hold the power to summon the Dáil as well as dissolve it. So as i said before, I would have all the answers the people of Ireland seek from these thieves of the working man, these disrupters of the family unit, these destructors of small businesses, and on and on and on! These charlatans in their positions of power would be summoned to answer to the people of Ireland and I would have it done by day end. Or I would be left with no choice but to dissolve the Dáil entirely. Stop the train until. The people of Ireland deserve the answers they seek. Point blank. This would be my power as President. I know very well. Ireland needs an active President employed wholly by the people of Ireland. It is me. I am the only logical choice. 2025 is upcoming…

Is he serious or trolling? Who knows...

Only god knows but as crazy as he is, I think that he really plans to run for President of Ireland. He is a celebrity, has a huge fanbase, especially in Ireland and why not? But I don't like the idea of athletes in politics. They are athletes that train their body, not their mind. They aren't as smart as those who dedicate their life to work that requires high mental workload.

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 11, 2024, 02:47:22 AM

So it turns out that this is another UFC vs boxing war? How simple. And stupid. Imho these are two different audiences, and fighting for their purse isnt smart. A true boxing fan will never turn his tv channel to watch UFC fight. Simply because boxing is a gentlemen fight and it isnt fair to "hit grounded opponent". The same as UFC fan most likely will see boxing as boring, because of limited variety of strikes.

Put Mike Tyson in boxing and I'll watch it 24/7. I think that sometimes it's certain athletes that make us watch sports and to be honest, that happens very often in my case. For example, I started watching football because of the hype that was around Messi and oh my, what a brilliant decision that was. I started watching UFC because of Conor McGregor too Cheesy

I never was his fan but he was so widely spoken that I watched one of his fight and then I liked it, then I liked athletes like Dustin Poirier, Tony Ferguson and so on.

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^ Meh... Just enjoy what you want to watch for the weekend. If it's one over the other... Fine. If you want both, that's fine too. If you don't like both of them, k. The whole arguing thing over which is better is so dumb imho.

But yeah, for you guys who are eligible... jeremypwr's Multi Master is up and running.

UFC 306: Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5508773

My leans at first glance...

10. Merab Dvalishvili
9. Valentina Shevchenko
8. Brian Ortega
7. Daniel Zellhuber
6. Ronaldo Rodriguez
5. Norma Dumont
4. Ignacio Bahamondes
3. Yazmin Jauregui
2. Edgar Chairez
1. Raul Rosas Jr

Just 10 matches? Weird for an event with a PPV.

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So it turns out that this is another UFC vs boxing war? How simple. And stupid. Imho these are two different audiences, and fighting for their purse isnt smart. A true boxing fan will never turn his tv channel to watch UFC fight. Simply because boxing is a gentlemen fight and it isnt fair to "hit grounded opponent". The same as UFC fan most likely will see boxing as boring, because of limited variety of strikes.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 10, 2024, 10:26:09 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 05, 2024, 03:50:15 PM

~~Ladies and~~ gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland

People in power will never allow McGregor to become a president of Ireland, and I am not sure people should trust him when everyone knows about his connection with Irish mafia.
And in case they allow him to win, that means he is just another controlled player of the system.
He was to scared to say the full truth about some things happening in last few years, and I remember him posting and than deleting posts on X.
His UFC carrier is going to be finished if he decides to go fully into politics.

I very much agree. President is a big ambition for Conor hehehe. He might win if he will run for mayor of Dublin, however. The Irish mafia can certainly help him on this.

@cabron. It also appears that Alalshikh is the sponsor of UFC 306 heheheheh. Did you hear what he said about Canelo's fight on September 14? He said we will eat him.

Turki Alalshikh is sponsoring the UFC 306 event on September 14th at the Sphere in Las Vegas, which will be held on the same night as Canelo Alvarez’s fight against Edgar Berlanga at the T-Mobile Arena. Canelo won’t be happy to hear Turki plans to sponsor the UFC 306 event, which would stymie his scheduled event on the same night.

Turki’s Bold Prediction: “We Will Eat Him” Turki told ESPN that his sponsored UFC 306 event on September 14th will “eat” Canelo’s fight card on the same night against Berlanga.

Read in full https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/07/turki-alalshikhs-ufc-306-a-direct-challenge-to-canelo-alvarez-on-september-14th/

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 10, 2024, 02:42:35 AM

Dont think that people would be ready to buy both translations, and forcing them to buy PPV to watch Rosas, might work and make people not spending on Canelo fight. Dunno... Weird card.

You might have forgotten that the preliminary fights are not included in payperview heheh.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2024, 04:28:39 AM

Anyway, not sure why Merab is the slight underdog here... And it will prolly go more towards O'Malley close to the weekend and make Dvalishvili's have more value.

I don't know, as much as I want Merab to win, I agree with Sean being the favourite here. He was tested against wrestlers before and cama up at the top. He knows how to utilise his reach advantage and keep the distance making it hard for Dvalishvili to take him down and increasing the risk of Merab getting KO'd while trying to do so.
Even if the fight goes to the ground, it won't be easy to hold Sean down. Escaping from such situations was probably one of his main focuses during training camps in the last few years.
And we also have the cut above Merab's eye which may not be 100% healed.
Whatever the result, it will be a good fight.

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Quote from: notblox1 on September 10, 2024, 10:26:09 AM

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 05, 2024, 03:50:15 PM

~~Ladies and~~ gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland

People in power will never allow McGregor to become a president of Ireland, and I am not sure people should trust him when everyone knows about his connection with Irish mafia.
And in case they allow him to win, that means he is just another controlled player of the system.
He was to scared to say the full truth about some things happening in last few years, and I remember him posting and than deleting posts on X.
His UFC carrier is going to be finished if he decides to go fully into politics.

He was already controlled since the time the Police investigated him for tweeting about the riots and looting in the country. He deleted them after it. If he really is serious about running I think they will indeed allow him to win but his policies may still be the same. He will be obedient to the people in power.

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Quote from: cabron on September 09, 2024, 12:36:40 PM

Maybe it's a strategy. It's kind of a big concert where they have to fire up the night before the main band performs, and they allow local stars to sing and draw the crowd. Rosas is the next likely candidate to make people watch. He seems to be more famous than Daniel Zellhuber or Lady Boy Ronaldo Rodriguez.

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

Then Rosas needs to do something really big to fire up the night, because the fights that comes after can easily stop that fire Cheesy

Maybe trick is to steal Mexican audience (Canelo) by starting event with Rosas, who is a Mexican also? Just to make people switch channels or PPV streams for 10-20minutes, and that will be enough to pull blanket on UFC side. Btw, anyone knows PPV prices for Canelo and UFC 306 ? Dont think that people would be ready to buy both translations, and forcing them to buy PPV to watch Rosas, might work and make people not spending on Canelo fight. Dunno... Weird card.

I think I've watched that from a UFC channel as well where they plan to flash a short video stream featuring the history of boxing and UFC in Mexico after every fight lol They are going to bore the audience with these.

They prioritized Mexican fighters indeed but the main event Omalley vs Merab doesn't fit the Mexican audience. They may sway some people to watch a die-hard fan to UFC PPV but the main event may really flop. Canelo is the biggest boxing star in Mexico. I think if Canelo runs for president, he may likely to win too.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 05, 2024, 03:50:15 PM

~~Ladies and~~ gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland

People in power will never allow McGregor to become a president of Ireland, and I am not sure people should trust him when everyone knows about his connection with Irish mafia.
And in case they allow him to win, that means he is just another controlled player of the system.
He was to scared to say the full truth about some things happening in last few years, and I remember him posting and than deleting posts on X.
His UFC carrier is going to be finished if he decides to go fully into politics.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2024, 04:28:39 AM

You're kidding right? Rosas is one of the more likeable guys in the UFC, unlike Mokaev... Who comes across as a douche and he's so cringe tbh. Pretty sure it's like what Toptort says. They wanna open the event with a bang. Something like Rosas via SUB at R1. Grin

But match ups and card does not match the size and glory of the event and venue Cheesy

Ok, main card is good.

Co-main event. A third fight between Grasso and Shevchenko. I never liked when fighters meet three times and more. What is the point of that and keeping whole division on pause. Shevchenko lost via submission and that was enough to put an end in their competition. I could understand if in the first fight Valentina was dominating, and lost by accident; and they had a split draw again. But as I remember Grasso won fair and square.

Ortega - Lopes. Nothing to discuss, good and expected fight.

Zellhuber vs Ribovics and Rodriguez vs Osbourne. They are in main card only because they are Mexicans and September 14 is Mexican independence day? Every prelim fight contains a Mexican fighter. Hmm... And Rosas from Mexico as an event opener. Why not instead take a shot of Jose Cuervo in front of Sphere, and congratulate everyone with that day?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 09, 2024, 07:55:38 AM

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. (...)

I don't know, but it reminds me of Mokaev's fight at the UFC 304 getting moved to prelims and we all know what happened to him.
R.I.P. Rosas, you will be missed Cry

Anyhow, here are the odds for the main card fights:

Sean O'Malley x1.82 vs. Merab Dvalishvili x1.98
Alexa Grasso x1.80 vs. Valentina Shevchenko x2.02
Brian Ortega x2.50 vs. Diego Lopes x1.53
Daniel Zellhuber x1.42 vs. Esteban Ribovics x2.88
Ronaldo Rodríguez x1.76 vs. Ode' Osbourne x2.07

I imagined O'Malley would be more of a favourite, but I think the odds look quite fair.

You're kidding right? Rosas is one of the more likeable guys in the UFC, unlike Mokaev... Who comes across as a douche and he's so cringe tbh. Pretty sure it's like what Toptort says. They wanna open the event with a bang. Something like Rosas via SUB at R1. Grin

Anyway, not sure why Merab is the slight underdog here... And it will prolly go more towards O'Malley close to the weekend and make Dvalishvili's have more value.

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Quote from: cabron on September 09, 2024, 12:36:40 PM

Maybe it's a strategy. It's kind of a big concert where they have to fire up the night before the main band performs, and they allow local stars to sing and draw the crowd. Rosas is the next likely candidate to make people watch. He seems to be more famous than Daniel Zellhuber or Lady Boy Ronaldo Rodriguez.

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

Then Rosas needs to do something really big to fire up the night, because the fights that comes after can easily stop that fire Cheesy

Maybe trick is to steal Mexican audience (Canelo) by starting event with Rosas, who is a Mexican also? Just to make people switch channels or PPV streams for 10-20minutes, and that will be enough to pull blanket on UFC side. Btw, anyone knows PPV prices for Canelo and UFC 306 ? Dont think that people would be ready to buy both translations, and forcing them to buy PPV to watch Rosas, might work and make people not spending on Canelo fight. Dunno... Weird card.

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Quote from: cabron on September 09, 2024, 12:36:40 PM

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

I would very much agree if the Canelo's opponent is David Benavidez or if this is a superfight between Canelo and Bud Crawford. However, if you say this without considering Canelo's next opponent on saturday, this is very headshaking hehehehe.

On Alalshikh, I agree! He is a boxing fan who loves this sport very much. This might also be why there are speculations that uncle Dana's next project is a boxing promotion with Alalshikh. I reckon this project might also be with uncle Dana's original partners in the UFC heheeh.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 09, 2024, 07:55:38 AM

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. (...)

I don't know, but it reminds me of Mokaev's fight at the UFC 304 getting moved to prelims and we all know what happened to him.
R.I.P. Rosas, you will be missed Cry

Anyhow, here are the odds for the main card fights:

Sean O'Malley x1.82 vs. Merab Dvalishvili x1.98
Alexa Grasso x1.80 vs. Valentina Shevchenko x2.02
Brian Ortega x2.50 vs. Diego Lopes x1.53
Daniel Zellhuber x1.42 vs. Esteban Ribovics x2.88
Ronaldo Rodríguez x1.76 vs. Ode' Osbourne x2.07

I imagined O'Malley would be more of a favourite, but I think the odds look quite fair.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 09, 2024, 07:55:38 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 09, 2024, 06:46:04 AM

^ How is Ronaldo Rodriguez vs Ode Osbourne in the main card and Raul Rosas vs Qileng is not? Lolol. Cheesy

Sometimes i just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I feel like we've already said what needed to be said about the event. Grin

Let's just wait for Merab to upload another banger at IG I guess. Cheesy

Here's the countdown vid.

UFC 306: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwQL_Dyonk

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. But the should have made next fights even better if they start with such a flashy fight. If they start with Rosas, they show Chairez vs Van and that fight did not impress viewers, after next fight people could switch channel. And frankly speaking, main event could be better for an event in such a venue. Pereira is always ready to fight, as well as Volkanovski Cheesy

They could have done a better main event Cheesy

Maybe it's a strategy. It's kind of a big concert where they have to fire up the night before the main band performs, and they allow local stars to sing and draw the crowd. Rosas is the next likely candidate to make people watch. He seems to be more famous than Daniel Zellhuber or Lady Boy Ronaldo Rodriguez.

UFC having a hard time competing the Canelo fight. Alalshikh is about to sabotage UFC, he is more of a boxing fan AFAIK.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 09, 2024, 06:46:04 AM

^ How is Ronaldo Rodriguez vs Ode Osbourne in the main card and Raul Rosas vs Qileng is not? Lolol. Cheesy

Sometimes i just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I feel like we've already said what needed to be said about the event. Grin

Let's just wait for Merab to upload another banger at IG I guess. Cheesy

Here's the countdown vid.

UFC 306: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDwQL_Dyonk

Yeap, I wrote that last week - who is the matchmaker for UFC 306? I dont understand why the events opens with Rosas fight? Was it made on purpose, to catch attention of audience from the very start. But the should have made next fights even better if they start with such a flashy fight. If they start with Rosas, they show Chairez vs Van and that fight did not impress viewers, after next fight people could switch channel. And frankly speaking, main event could be better for an event in such a venue. Pereira is always ready to fight, as well as Volkanovski Cheesy

They could have done a better main event Cheesy

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