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Of course Dana would do anything for them, as they made lots of noise in media. As well as that Pereiras knockout saved the event. Months ago UFC 303 was planned to be one of the coolest events of 2024. Return of Conor ! What we got in main card? Pereira KOed Jiri. Fili and Swanson showed a nice fight in prelims. Pretty much it. Huge event turned into average. However, like I've told, after UFC 299 and UFC 300 it will be hard for UFC to impress us. Hope that UFC 304 wont disappoint.
And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.
Or could it be that Pereira is really that good?
It's possible that Jiri failed to prepare himself mentally. It's not easy after losing to the same guy by TKO not that long ago. Jan Blachowicz said he knew Prochazka would lose after he saw him smiling at Pereira before the fight, something he would never do in his previous fights. A little detail like that can be very telling.
As for Ige Vs Lopes, they're both ranked 13th and 14th respectively, I don't think the ranking has yet been updated after the event, so they'll probably switch places. Career-wise, accepting that fight was a great move for both of them, Dana White sang some praises for them both in the post-fight conference and said he'll do anything for them. So likely both of them will get a chance to face higher-ranked opponents in their next fights.
Or Pereira is way to good 
Of course it was hard for Prochazka to fight Pereira and his dark spirit. 2 vs 1 isnt fair
Btw, UFC decided not to re-sign Andrei Arlovki contract. Finally a former champ can have a rest at his 45 and enjoy life with his 3 kids. Been in business since 1999. Set some records and it is time to say goodbye;)
Of course it was hard for Prochazka to fight Pereira and his dark spirit. 2 vs 1 isnt fair Btw, UFC decided not to re-sign Andrei Arlovki contract. Finally a former champ can have a rest at his 45 and enjoy life with his 3 kids. Been in business since 1999. Set some records and it is time to say goodbye;)
^ It just shows that Lopes isn't really that ready to fight the top guys in the UFC. And I haven't checked yet but I don't think Ige isn't really that high in the list in his weight class. Prolly in the top 10 but outside the top 5..? And he is one weight class below Lopes.
And if it was Ortega in there, sure it might be a close fight... But then again Ortega is the underdog. And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.
And if it was Ortega in there, sure it might be a close fight... But then again Ortega is the underdog. And as for Prochazka, it looks like he isn't as good as what everyone thought him to be.
^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.
Naaah, it would be a submission definitely. Ortega is good with triangles, Lopes with armbars. They will both try to use their favourite move, until one caught opponent into something unique. Lopes surprised with performance. Won first round, spent to much stamina in second round, went to third round so tired, that in the end Ige even managed to give him a good beating at the fence. I think Lopes low performance was due to stress from unknown future. First he cut to 66kg when Ortega was 70. In the end he fought in 74kg. I suppose body wasnt ready enough to lose so much and regain quick and a lot.
I called it, didn't I?
Yeap, you predicted it. But it is Jiris fault and special move, to act unpredicted. This time what he did on the last seconds of first round? Tried that left knee or left overhand (dont remember frankly and cant rewarch at work), leaving right hand low. Got punished immediately.
I called it, didn't I?
I knew Jiri's low hands would get him in big trouble in this one. There are fighters you can fight against with your hands low, and there are fighters you can't. Pereira is in the 2nd category.
I feel sorry for Jiri and don't want to be too harsh to him, but he was not properly prepared. He looked chaotic and there was no sign of any game plan. Even when it comes to that knock-out kick, he did see it coming but tried to block it in a very odd way, as in he fought it was a body kick and tried to catch Pereira's leg. That's a rookie mistake, but it's possible he was still dazed after that knock-down at the end of round one.
I knew Jiri's low hands would get him in big trouble in this one. There are fighters you can fight against with your hands low, and there are fighters you can't. Pereira is in the 2nd category.
I feel sorry for Jiri and don't want to be too harsh to him, but he was not properly prepared. He looked chaotic and there was no sign of any game plan. Even when it comes to that knock-out kick, he did see it coming but tried to block it in a very odd way, as in he fought it was a body kick and tried to catch Pereira's leg. That's a rookie mistake, but it's possible he was still dazed after that knock-down at the end of round one.
^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.
Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.
Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.
And I also thought he would KO Ortega and whoever is the replacement, Dan must have been the craziest to accept a 3-hour notice for a fight. It was said he was the one who requested to be the replacement since he is in shape and can fight right away. If they fight up to R5, Deigo will lose. At the last minutes of the R3, I think is enough to say Ige can win the fight because Deigo is exhausted already.
When it comes to speed Garry has nothing to show but he was successful in taking control of Page in all rounds he managed to TD Page.
^ If Ortega was healthy I think he would've won vs Lopes who couldn't even finish or make it 30 - 27 against Ige who went in there on like a few hours short notice.
Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.
Alex Pereira def Jiri Prochazka TKO R2
Diego Lopes def Dan Ige UD
Roman Dolidze def Anthony Smith UD
Macy Chiasson def Mayra Bueno Silva TKO R2
Ian Machado Garry def Michael Page UD
Joe Pyfer def Marc-Andre Barriault KO R1
Andre Fili def Cub Swanson SD
Jean Silva def Charles Jourdain KO R2
Payton Talbott def Yanis Ghemmouri KO R1
Gillian Robertson def Michelle Waterson Gomez UD
Martin Buday def Andrei Arlovski SD
Rei Tsuruya def Carlos Hernandez UD
Vinicius Oliveira def Ricky Simon UD
UFC 303: Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BeckXNvu2Q
Here are the results. Things to take note are Ian Machado Garry was shown to be not as good as everybody thinks he is. He's a couple of fights away of getting his first loss. Payton Talbott could be a legit prospect. We need to see him tested against a tough vet. Tsuruya isn't as good as where the bookies lined him at. And Simon could go on a skid.
Alex Pereira def Jiri Prochazka TKO R2
Diego Lopes def Dan Ige UD
Roman Dolidze def Anthony Smith UD
Macy Chiasson def Mayra Bueno Silva TKO R2
Ian Machado Garry def Michael Page UD
Joe Pyfer def Marc-Andre Barriault KO R1
Andre Fili def Cub Swanson SD
Jean Silva def Charles Jourdain KO R2
Payton Talbott def Yanis Ghemmouri KO R1
Gillian Robertson def Michelle Waterson Gomez UD
Martin Buday def Andrei Arlovski SD
Rei Tsuruya def Carlos Hernandez UD
Vinicius Oliveira def Ricky Simon UD
UFC 303: Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BeckXNvu2Q
Before we start discussing main event, we must give some respect to Dan Ige 
That man saved this event. In fact, this event is somehow cursed Pereira with his magic McGregor vs Chandler cancelation. Ortega performance. Regards Ortega performance - missed weight, withdrew on the day of the even due illness. Ige is a real dude, who accepted fight in 4h notice and lost only by decision. That deserves a respect.
That man saved this event. In fact, this event is somehow cursed Pereira with his magic McGregor vs Chandler cancelation. Ortega performance. Regards Ortega performance - missed weight, withdrew on the day of the even due illness. Ige is a real dude, who accepted fight in 4h notice and lost only by decision. That deserves a respect. Diego posted that the weight was agreed upon at the last minute because Ortega was unable to make it. And unfortunately Diego accepted this agreed weight, even though they both made the weight, it is worrying for Diego. But that's the thing, whoever wants to win must be prepared for anything.
He could've said No, i.e. just like Stephen Thompson did when he refused to fight Michel Pereira at the UFC 291 after Pereira missed the weight, stating it would be an unfair disadvantage as he had to put himself through all the pain of cutting weight, which was very taxing on the body and Pereira didn't do the same. And I agreed with his logic. There's a good reason we have rules and weight classes.
But I understand there might be some financial reasons involved. I'm not sure what's in their contracts, but I imagine if Lopes refused, he would get paid something, but it wouldn't be a full payment he would get for a fight. Or there might be a clause that a fighter who misses weight would have to sacrifice part of his purse to his opponent.
Maybe reconsider your bet on Arlovski? Even though he is a veteran and former champs, he seems to be loosing to a barely known guys. He is just old and chin has transformed into glass. Lost 3 last fights. His opponent, Martin Buday, even though he has lost last fight, was in a series of 12 wins (5 in UFC). Really, make another look on the fighters and your decision Arlovski is 45 already, he isnt planning to become a champ, join title race, he is fighting just for fun imho, or as a hobby. Imho he does not have much to lose, so it is a high change that he will get knocked out.
Arlovski is 45 already, he isnt planning to become a champ, join title race, he is fighting just for fun imho, or as a hobby. Imho he does not have much to lose, so it is a high change that he will get knocked out.I'm not necessarily betting on them. They're just leans. And as said, it's a greasy card. I'd prolly bet on Simon and Pereria tho. As for the rest, I'll just enjoy watching the event. But maybe if I get drunk, I'll prolly make a couple of small impulse bets for the lulz.
Anyway here are the last batch of vids for 303. Enjoy...
UFC 303: Ceremonial Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AUJxBIZyec
UFC 303: Embedded Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2yjRCSFSqg
UFC 303: Embedded Episode 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxRfVef7ZmM
Here are the weigh in results.
Champ Alex Pereira (204.5) vs Jiri Prochazka (204.5)
Brian Ortega (155) vs Diego Lopes (155)
Anthony Smith (206) vs Roman Dolidze (205)
Mayra Bueno Silva (136) vs Macy Chiasson (135.5)
Ian Machado Garry (170) vs Michael Page (171)
Joe Pyfer (185.5) vs Marc-Andre Barriault (185)
Cub Swanson (146) vs Andre Fili (145.5)
Charles Jourdain (146) vs Jean Silva (147.5)*
Payton Talbott (135.5) vs Yanis Ghemmouri (136)
Michelle Waterson-Gomez (115) vs Gillian Robertson (116)
Andrei Arlovski (245) vs Martin Buday (264.5)
Rei Tsuruya (125.5) vs Carlos Hernandez (125)
Ricky Simon (136) vs Vinicius Oliveira (136)
*Missed weight
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway ).
). Diego posted that the weight was agreed upon at the last minute because Ortega was unable to make it. And unfortunately Diego accepted this agreed weight, even though they both made the weight, it is worrying for Diego. But that's the thing, whoever wants to win must be prepared for anything.
Maybe reconsider your bet on Arlovski? Even though he is a veteran and former champs, he seems to be loosing to a barely known guys. He is just old and chin has transformed into glass. Lost 3 last fights. (...)
He's only 45, the future belongs to him. He might have lost the last 3 fights, but there was clearly some progress: In October 2022 he lost in round 1, in June 2023 he lost in round 2, and in Jan 2024 he made it through the full 3 rounds and lost by decision. The pattern is clear, he's destined to win.
He also had losing streaks of 4 or even 5 in the past but managed to bounce back.
In other news, Ortega Vs Lopes got moved to 155. Allegedly Ortega really struggled to make the weight and couldn't go below 151, so the UFC contacted Lopes and said if he doesn't agree to fight in 155 the fight will be off:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/06/ufc-303-weigh-ins-brian-ortega-diego-lopes-changed-lightweight-fight
I'm not sure what the implications will be (if any) in terms of the impact of the ranking, i.e. would Lopes move up in the featherweight ranks if he wins?
Also, this could be some unfair advantage to Ortega, as he didn't have to go through weight-cutting to the same degree as Lopes did. But I'm glad the fight is saved.
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway ).
). Its a step for Ortega to defend his rank against someone who also has the potential to really knock him. Since its confirmed he couldn't make the weight, I guess there is a chance for him to look great as possible in the cage. This is short notice though. He plans to fight in the LW and then accept to fight at 145. Definitely can't make it. It happens several times when they need to cut weight and just have to fight, its often not a healthy fight for them.
Maybe reconsider your bet on Arlovski? Even though he is a veteran and former champs, he seems to be loosing to a barely known guys. He is just old and chin has transformed into glass. Lost 3 last fights. His opponent, Martin Buday, even though he has lost last fight, was in a series of 12 wins (5 in UFC). Really, make another look on the fighters and your decision Arlovski is 45 already, he isnt planning to become a champ, join title race, he is fighting just for fun imho, or as a hobby. Imho he does not have much to lose, so it is a high change that he will get knocked out.
Arlovski is 45 already, he isnt planning to become a champ, join title race, he is fighting just for fun imho, or as a hobby. Imho he does not have much to lose, so it is a high change that he will get knocked out. What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway ).
). I got Ortega. Dunno... But I feel like it's somewhat a step up for Lopez and the sports betting sites are laying Ortega as the underdog? Yes please...
As for the rest of the roster, man I think this thing is seriously gonna be underdog city. Like I think there's more than 5 live dogs for the event.
Some vids...
UFC 303: Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZSZFF_grWU
UFC 303: Embedded Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwjt_Z4PgSQ
UFC 303: Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVKQoTbYl48
And here's the live weigh in show. You guys should be watching it and getting reads if you can, if you're serious about betting in these fights.
UFC 303: Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1fKsMOWa4
Edit: And just noticed that jeremypwr's Multi Master is back.
UFC 303: Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-303-multi-master-challenge-29-june-5500918
Alex Pereira
Brian Ortega
Macy Chiasson
Roman Dolidze
Ian Machado Garry
Marc Andre Barriault
Jean Silva
Cub Swanson
Payton Talbott
Michelle Waterson Gomez
Andrei Arlovski
Carlos Hernandez
Ricky Simon
Could be a greasy card. I see 8 underdogs winning. Lol. 9 if I count Anthony Smith. He's live too.
I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
his entire statement is a standup comedy worthy material. it's making me laughing so hard honestly the first time I see that kind of statement.I mean when people taps or sleep they'd always try to find some excuse, but this excuse of using magic is beyond me lmao. probably such statement could only come from him and him alone, can't imagine other people throwing such silly accusations
I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
Haha we all know how their previous fight went and in reality Pereira was the winner, Jiri had to admit that but it was failure that he couldn't admit, whatever was said about mystical things was just joke here.But on the other hand, this fight, which is their second, shows that Jiri Prochazka has truly extraordinary self-confidence, he said that he has prepared well and will try to win and win the championship title.
For Pereira, I think he will also show his best to defend the championship belt he already has, this is not the first time Pereira has fought to defend and risk championship belt.
I sure Pereira will get the win back and he will keep it, being the fighter who defends the light heavyweight title.
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway ).
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I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
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