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Quote from: notblox1 on December 09, 2024, 05:23:34 PM

Shavkat Rakhmonov is unstoppable at the moment!
19 wins and perfect MMA record means that he could compete for Welterweight championship title soon.
I am not sure who is next for him, Belal Muhammad directly or Edwards and Usman first.
After the fight Belal said that he would walk through Rakhmonov

Kamaru Usman would probably be a good opponent for Shavkat, especially since he wants to fight Usman since he feels Usman is better than all four fighters, and if he beats him it could raise his profile. but I myself prefer Belal to be his opponent, even though he is still recovering from his last fight, but I believe that Belal can be a tough opponent for Shavkat.

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Shavkat Rakhmonov is unstoppable at the moment!
19 wins and perfect MMA record means that he could compete for Welterweight championship title soon.
I am not sure who is next for him, Belal Muhammad directly or Edwards and Usman first.
After the fight Belal said that he would walk through Rakhmonov

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 06:33:51 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on December 09, 2024, 05:50:39 AM

Merab beat Cejudo like he was nothing while this is the guy who became the youngest American to win an Olympic gold in wrestling.

Merab beat shadow of Cejudo Cheesy

Cejudo has been retired from sports in 2020. He was great in wrestling in 2006-2008. And Merab beat him only in 2024. When Jake Paul fights retired or old fighters people make laugh at him. When Merab beats the guy who hasnt been in real action for 4 years, comes after a shoulder injury and has retired, it is considered as a great achievement.

They fought early this year 2024. Although Cejudo lost he is not even hurt badly, the only reason most of them want to fight Cejudo is because it always makes a huge payout. Merab fighting Umar is different. Although it has been said before that Merab wants to fight Umar, that was before he didn't have a belt. Now he has something to hold on to. Umar vs Merab better be a big payout for him which I guess hyping makes sense.

Now that we see Shavkat didn't make a big win vs Machado I think Belal does have a good chance as well. If Belal was in the position of Machado behind Shavkatm he would make sure he would choke Shavkat. I now remember the name. Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 02:23:39 AM

Any thoughts on UFC 310 ? Cheesy

I'll start.

1) Main card was kinda boring. Asakura can go back to Rizin. Have huge questions who should Pantoja face next.

2) Even though Garry has lost, he has surprised me. Nothing changed much in his try-to-avoid-most-damage style, but he was good against Shavkats wrestling, was good in grappling, even managed to throw a rear naked Cheesy

And all that Garry showed with 1 month preparation, because Belal withdrew.

3) Some say that Volkov got robbed, but I would give it a draw. He took third round, first two are under questions. Split decision looks fair. But, Volkov did looked different. In their first fight, Gane was domination and it was a pure striking fight. This time we saw both of them working as first number, ground game.

P.S. Have you heard that UFC security did not let Belal enter the octagon? Cheesy

Because he is so "remember the name" champ, that nobody knows who he is Cheesy

The main card was pretty bad, as was the Cirly Gane and Alexander Volkov match. Cirly Gane tried to leave the cage immediately after the match, they turned her away as you may have noticed.
He spoke to Joe Rogan briefly and said that he was not happy with the result of the match and that he broke his finger in the first round.
The best match of the match was the Shavkat Rakhmonov and Ian Garry match, which Shavkat won by referee decision.
Although Ian Garry found good shots from long range, Shavkat won the match easily, which is what the referees decided anyway.
Shavkat took a lot of low kicks at one point and never threw a low kick during the match. I found it strange that low kicks were not in the game plan.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 09, 2024, 06:42:33 AM

I mean... What did everybody really expect? Some guy itt said Asakura would win via KO before we see the championship rounds. LOL.

I have expected as usually: from prospects that are signed to UFC to get a top class performance, instead of dull first round and overall total declass. When someone gets a debut fight as a title shot, I expect that he is really ready to show class. What we got? Another skull on a shelve for Pantoja, and a question who should he fight next. Royval - beaten. Moreno - beaten. Albazy ? Moreno bit him recently. France? Albazy has beaten him, but he bit Erceg only. Erceg also lost to Pantoja. It looks that Pantoja has beaten already anyone who should had a change to fight him Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 02:23:39 AM

Any thoughts on UFC 310 ? Cheesy

I'll start.

1) Main card was kinda boring. Asakura can go back to Rizin. Have huge questions who should Pantoja face next.

I mean... What did everybody really expect? Some guy itt said Asakura would win via KO before we see the championship rounds. LOL.

Anyway here are the results. It was a decent event for me. But I love MMA so much I could even find a so so ONE FC event and I'd still love it. Cheesy

Ciryl Gane def Alexander Volkov

How did Ciryl Gane beat Volkov? Did I watch the same event as the Judges? What are they smoking? Even Dana White thought that Volkov won that easily and he got robbed. Dana also said that he'll talk to Volkov and make things right. I guess that means there will be a rematch with Gane again? That should most likely be the case or give Volkov a title shot and whoever wins, faces Gane next. Which is less likely to happen.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 02:23:39 AM

Any thoughts on UFC 310 ? Cheesy

I'll start.

1) Main card was kinda boring. Asakura can go back to Rizin. Have huge questions who should Pantoja face next.

I mean... What did everybody really expect? Some guy itt said Asakura would win via KO before we see the championship rounds. LOL.

Anyway here are the results. It was a decent event for me. But I love MMA so much I could even find a so so ONE FC event and I'd still love it. Cheesy

Alexandre Pantoja def Kai Asakura
Shavkat Rakhmonov def Ian Machado Garry
Ciryl Gane def Alexander Volkov
Bryce Mitchell def Kron Gracie
Choi Doo Ho def Nate Landwehr
Dominick Reyes def Anthony Smith
Vicente Luque def Themba Gorimbo
Movsar Evloev def Aljamain Sterling
Bryan Battle def Randy Brown
Eryk Anders def Chris Weidman
Joshua Van def Cody Durden
Michael Chiesa def Max Griffin
Chase Hooper def Clay Guida
Kennedy Nzechukwu def Łukasz Brzeski

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Quote from: Synchronice on December 09, 2024, 05:50:39 AM

Merab beat Cejudo like he was nothing while this is the guy who became the youngest American to win an Olympic gold in wrestling.

Merab beat shadow of Cejudo Cheesy

Cejudo has been retired from sports in 2020. He was great in wrestling in 2006-2008. And Merab beat him only in 2024. When Jake Paul fights retired or old fighters people make laugh at him. When Merab beats the guy who hasnt been in real action for 4 years, comes after a shoulder injury and has retired, it is considered as a great achievement.

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Quote from: cabron on December 07, 2024, 12:29:36 PM

It's going where Dana wants it. I just watched the press. Merab is too afraid to face off, he stays afar Grin

Feel bad for him. Dana didn't even want him to at least win a single title defense fight. But they can really sell this UFC 311 well with these two.

I still think about whether Merab is really afraid of him or he simply tries to hype the fight his way? I don't want to disrespect the guy but he is a not a smart guy and he is also a little strange. Maybe he tries to hype the fight? I don't know what to say Cheesy

I can't believe that he is afraid of Umar so much because he has fought too many strong people and Umar isn't 10 times stronger than them.

Quote from: l99l on December 07, 2024, 01:45:53 PM

Merab made it personal but it is obvious that he is afraid. But Merab knows where to stop or Islam knows that he will intervene and talk, he already talked.
I am already starting to wonder how their fight will be, the fight between these two will really attract good attention.
Umar is also undefeated and fights until the end, Merab is also good on the ground, his cardio is very very good and he never stops.
Can Umar stop him maybe because he can finish with very fast counter strikes.

This will be a very interesting fight. Merab beat Cejudo like he was nothing while this is the guy who became the youngest American to win an Olympic gold in wrestling. We can all agree that Petr Yan's boxing is one of the most clean and Merab beat him like he was nobody, Merab beat him so much that his eyes got so swollen that he couldn't see anything. I don't know what to say but I'd love to see Merab win this fight.

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 02:23:39 AM

Any thoughts on UFC 310 ? Cheesy

I'll start.

I didn't watch it because it wasn't interesting for me, only a few highlights from TikTok.

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 09, 2024, 02:23:39 AM

P.S. Have you heard that UFC security did not let Belal enter the octagon? Cheesy

Because he is so "remember the name" champ, that nobody knows who he is Cheesy

Of course

That moment kinda sucks when you are a champion, expect everybody to know you and then the guard doesn't let you to come Cheesy

By the way, moments like this remind me the moment when a Taxi driver asks Messi to take photo of him with Mascherano.

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I'll start.

1) Main card was kinda boring. Asakura can go back to Rizin. Have huge questions who should Pantoja face next.

2) Even though Garry has lost, he has surprised me. Nothing changed much in his try-to-avoid-most-damage style, but he was good against Shavkats wrestling, was good in grappling, even managed to throw a rear naked Cheesy

And all that Garry showed with 1 month preparation, because Belal withdrew.

3) Some say that Volkov got robbed, but I would give it a draw. He took third round, first two are under questions. Split decision looks fair. But, Volkov did looked different. In their first fight, Gane was domination and it was a pure striking fight. This time we saw both of them working as first number, ground game.

P.S. Have you heard that UFC security did not let Belal enter the octagon? Cheesy

Because he is so "remember the name" champ, that nobody knows who he is Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 06, 2024, 05:33:28 AM

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In Georgia, they would do the same. Sounds stupid, but I even think they dont need a venue. Create an octagon on flatland, and mountains will be crowded by spectators. Does not matter if all they see are two dots moving.
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it wouldn't be a bad idea to build a venue there specifically for UFC, with the view of the mountain caucuses, it could also potentially bring in tourists and bring money to the government. so it's not a bad idea, it's just that it needs careful consideration, such as audience potential, construction costs, and long-term plans for the venue, or else it will be a failed project and further increase their debt. but I think if the Georgian government is smart and good at negotiating with Dana, this will be a good project, especially since the US, EU countries, and some others can enter Georgia without a visa and stay up to 360 days for tourist purposes, this plan could help their economy.

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Quote from: cabron on December 05, 2024, 11:48:49 AM

So Merab wants the fight held in Georgia? It's every champ's dream.
Depending on how many fighters they feature from Georgia or close to this country, most probably the Dagestanis will fill the stadium. He should be careful who to fight whenever he wants it in his country because he might disappoint fellow countrymen.

All I can say is that he has the right to decline fights, especially Umar.

Dagestani is a part of Russia. There are many sanctions against Russia and it will be impossible to have a UFC event in Dagestani. Georgia is very easy when it comes to VISAs. It's very easy for Americans and Europeans to enter our country, they don't need visas, so Georgia might be a good place for Dana White to make some UFC events but I'm afraid, locals won't be able to afford their ticket prices because as I have heard, they are very expensive.

Quote from: notblox1 on December 05, 2024, 03:20:29 PM

Maybe Turkey could be another option, this country is bordering with Georgia and atmosphere in arena would be hot for sure.
Chances for that would be bigger if Turkey had top UFC fighters, but I dont think so.

That would be good too but will UFC be able to sell alcohol? My friend is a Merab's "brother" and he told me that in UFC events, most of people are drunk and alcohol usage is crazy.

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 06, 2024, 02:06:21 AM

And it is already announced that it will be in Inglewood, CA. Dagestani guys are now drinking validolum to calm down, as the level of wrestling in this fight is going to be as high as possible. Will we see Khabib in the corner of both main and co-main event fights? Double champ from Dagestani? Nurmagomedov's father legacy?

I don't watch UFC and don't have much idea about 99% of fighters here but I know that there is a fight between two Dagestani, one Armenian and one Georgia, Merab. Someone was writing that this is the Fight of Mountains and I think it's a perfect title. All these people come from the Caucasus Mountains.

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Quote from: Synchronice on December 07, 2024, 07:44:31 AM

Wow, this is getting personal for Merab. The relationship between Merab and Umar is getting terrible. Did you guys watch the press conference? If not, then you should watch it, especially if you are a fan of Merab.
Merab said that Umar congratulated him when he beat Petr Yan and now he wants to fight Merab, he calls Umar a snitch and I get it. Umar wasn't happy for Merab's win, he wanted to fight him in his heart but there is a thing that scares me. I believe Merab is too afraid of Umar, Merab said many times that this fight is a gift for him from the UFC. Will Merab lose? Merab is too strong, has a great cardio, discipline and skills. I don't know much about Umar, haven't seen his fights but Merab looks too scared. I hope he wins because he deserves it and Dana White is a shameless man. He doesn't like Dvalishvili and does absolutely everything he can to get rid of Merab. I hope Merab beats Umar, I love it when things go the way Dana White doesn't want.

Merab made it personal but it is obvious that he is afraid. But Merab knows where to stop or Islam knows that he will intervene and talk, he already talked.
I am already starting to wonder how their fight will be, the fight between these two will really attract good attention.
Umar is also undefeated and fights until the end, Merab is also good on the ground, his cardio is very very good and he never stops.
Can Umar stop him maybe because he can finish with very fast counter strikes.

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Quote from: Synchronice on December 07, 2024, 07:44:31 AM

Wow, this is getting personal for Merab. The relationship between Merab and Umar is getting terrible. Did you guys watch the press conference? If not, then you should watch it, especially if you are a fan of Merab.
Merab said that Umar congratulated him when he beat Petr Yan and now he wants to fight Merab, he calls Umar a snitch and I get it. Umar wasn't happy for Merab's win, he wanted to fight him in his heart but there is a thing that scares me. I believe Merab is too afraid of Umar, Merab said many times that this fight is a gift for him from the UFC. Will Merab lose? Merab is too strong, has a great cardio, discipline and skills. I don't know much about Umar, haven't seen his fights but Merab looks too scared. I hope he wins because he deserves it and Dana White is a shameless man. He doesn't like Dvalishvili and does absolutely everything he can to get rid of Merab. I hope Merab beats Umar, I love it when things go the way Dana White doesn't want.

It's going where Dana wants it. I just watched the press. Merab is too afraid to face off, he stays afar Grin

Feel bad for him. Dana didn't even want him to at least win a single title defense fight. But they can really sell this UFC 311 well with these two.

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 07, 2024, 04:53:36 AM

We can partly test level of Islams wrestling from the match Umar vs Merab. Umar, Khabib, Islam came from one wrestling school, from Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov. In theiry their wrestling should be on same level. Merab is also great at wrestling (rewatch fight against Petr Yan) and has great cardio. Never seen Arman breathing heavily in late rounds. Islam never had top level wrestlers opponents, as well as Umar. If Umar passes Merab wrestling, then Islam should not worry about Armans wrestling Grin

Not just from one wrestling school, they also take a dip in one Jacuzzi that's what Merab tweeted lol But Islam's wrestling looks very solid they say. I think Islam can take down just about anyone.

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Wow, this is getting personal for Merab. The relationship between Merab and Umar is getting terrible. Did you guys watch the press conference? If not, then you should watch it, especially if you are a fan of Merab.
Merab said that Umar congratulated him when he beat Petr Yan and now he wants to fight Merab, he calls Umar a snitch and I get it. Umar wasn't happy for Merab's win, he wanted to fight him in his heart but there is a thing that scares me. I believe Merab is too afraid of Umar, Merab said many times that this fight is a gift for him from the UFC. Will Merab lose? Merab is too strong, has a great cardio, discipline and skills. I don't know much about Umar, haven't seen his fights but Merab looks too scared. I hope he wins because he deserves it and Dana White is a shameless man. He doesn't like Dvalishvili and does absolutely everything he can to get rid of Merab. I hope Merab beats Umar, I love it when things go the way Dana White doesn't want.

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Here are the weigh in results... It looks like there's one miss and it's a bad miss as Bryan Battle looked like he was really drained for his weigh in. And he's 3 lbs over the limit, looks drained..? Not good. Randy Brown at 2.65 could be a good spot here imho.

Champ Alexandre Pantoja (124.5) vs Kai Asakura (124.5)
Ian Machado Garry (171) vs Shavkat Rakhmonov (171)
Ciryl Gane (245.5) vs Alexander Volkov (254.5)
Kron Gracie (144.5) vs Bryce Mitchell (146)
Dooho Choi (146) vs Nate Landwehr (145.5)
Dominick Reyes (205) vs Anthony Smith (205.5)
Themba Gorimbo (171) vs Vicente Luque (170.5)
Movsar Evloev (145.5) vs Aljamain Sterling (145.5)
Bryan Battle (175)* vs Randy Brown (171)
Eryk Anders (193) vs Chris Weidman (194.5)
Cody Durden (126) vs Joshua Van (126)
Michael Chiesa (170.5) vs Max Griffin (170)
Clay Guida (155) vs Chase Hooper (155.5)
Lukasz Brzeski (234) vs Kennedy Nzechukwu (236.5)

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We can partly test level of Islams wrestling from the match Umar vs Merab. Umar, Khabib, Islam came from one wrestling school, from Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov. In theiry their wrestling should be on same level. Merab is also great at wrestling (rewatch fight against Petr Yan) and has great cardio. Never seen Arman breathing heavily in late rounds. Islam never had top level wrestlers opponents, as well as Umar. If Umar passes Merab wrestling, then Islam should not worry about Armans wrestling Grin

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 06, 2024, 05:33:28 AM

(...) Sounds stupid, but I even think they dont need a venue. Create an octagon on flatland, and mountains will be crowded by spectators. Does not matter if all they see are two dots moving.

Lol, yeah they could watch it on youtube afterwards anyway.
But the gate money though... can you charge people for sitting on a side of a mountain? How much could you squeeze out of them?

Quote from: Synchronice on December 06, 2024, 05:39:07 AM

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I believe that Islam is going to beat him again, I would consider Tsarukyan as an easy opponent for Islam.
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I don't know about that. Arman has much better wrestling than Islam's past opponents, so it will be much harder to take him down and hold him down, not to mention any submissions.
In my estimation, Islam is slightly better in wrestling and slightly better in striking, so it might be a close fight, just like the first one was. I think Arman is rightfully a number one contender as there isn't anyone stronger than him. However, it would be interesting to see how Gamrot's wrestling would compare to Islam's, as Gamrot has out-wrestled Arman in their fight.

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^ Both really good match ups and all 4 of those guys are really excellent fighters... The cream of the crop in the UFC. But sorry to say that Dvalishvili backers could be in for a disappointment. Umar Nurmagomedov is the real deal and I wouldn't be surprised if the bookies line him 2 to 1 to win against his opponent. Could be more.

Weigh ins soon...

UFC 310: Morning Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZvCww7veoU

UFC 310: Ceremonial Weigh In
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There's one of those early press conferences for 311 to build up the event.

UFC 311: Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INxvDKYU5kA

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Yesterday it became known that the next UFC 311 event will take place on January 18, 2025, in California, USA.
The main fight event is Islam Makhachev vs Arman Tsarukyan. This is the 2nd fight between them. In the first fight, Makhachev beat Tsarukyan (of course Cheesy

). But Tsarukyan has an impressive results too. His last fight was against Charles Oliveira a few months ago and he beat him in that fight.
I believe that Islam is going to beat him again, I would consider Tsarukyan as an easy opponent for Islam.

The co-main event of UFC 311 is Merab Dvalishvili vs Umar Nurmagomedov. All of you know that Merab is one of my favorite fighter because of his past, hard work and dedication. This fight seems very interesting and dangerous. I think that Merab is going to win this fight. He was hesitating fight against Umar but now accepted it, so I'm sure he is confident enough to beat him.

My bets are following:
1. Islam Makhachev wins
2. Merab Dvalishvili wins.

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