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legendary
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August 25, 2024, 02:00:54 AM
Just posting the results of the last night's main card:



I haven't watched any of those fights yet, but judging by the damage on the faces of both fighters in the post-fight interview, the main event could've been an interesting fight. I can't find any highlights videos (or a full fight) of it atm though.
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August 24, 2024, 06:07:24 AM
^  Oof...  Pereira will get himself starched if he moves down to 185.  Weight cuts takes a toll on some guys and pretty sure it does on Pereira as he's a big guy...  And in case you forgot, Adesanya knocked him out when they last met.  Lol.  It shows that he gets too much water out of his body to make weight.
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Going from 205 to 185 is really hard, but maybe the momentum that Pereira got in his last 4 fights (5 after his fight against Rountree Jr.) pushed him to do the unthinkable and that's to go back to middleweight division. He believes that he can jump from 185 to 205 so he can go down as well. Pereira loves challenges and he sees this as one of his challenges hence, he wants it.

It's just a bit disappointing that many expected him to fight the likes of Jones, and Ankalaev but he chooses to go back to 185 and fight DDP. I also don't know if he's comfortable with that division because like what you said, he got knocked out against Adesanya when they fought for the 2nd time. It surely takes some toll on the fighter, but let's see how this will play. Pereira looks comfortable at 205, so why going back to 185 to reclaim the title again. Hmmm.

He has been moving back and forth from HW to MW in his kickboxing career, so he must have been used to it. Pereira is just attempting to just keep his name on the media being talked about, sort of an attention grabber this time. He knows Dana will not grant this fight impromptu. It's beyond his decision but he will gladly do it after all he doesn't care about losing as long as he is entertained and gets paid, he lost several times already.

Maybe there is a satisfaction in beating the guy who defeated his rival in the MW division.


He was younger back then...  How old is he now?  He's 37 years old, that just three years going to 40.  As a 205'er, the heavier weight class could make him get away with being a fighter in the UFC.  At 185, that's gonna take a toll on his body.  I'd rather see DDP move up.  Grin

Here are the weigh in results...  Surprised that Cannonier went in at 184.

Jared Cannonier (184) vs Caio Borralho (186)
Angela Hill (115.5) vs Tabatha Ricci (115)
Ryan Loder (186) vs Rob Valentin (185)
Kaan Ofli (145) vs Mairon Santos (146)
Neil Magny (170) vs Michael Morales (171)
Gerald Meerschaert (185) vs Edmen Shahbazyan (184.5)
Dennis Buzukja (155.5) vs Francis Marshall (156)
Jose Medina (186) vs Zach Reese (184.5)
Viacheslav Borshchev (155.5) vs James Llontop (144.5)
Jacqueline Cavalcanti (135) vs Josiane Nunes (136)
Zygimantas Ramaska (146) vs Nathan Fletcher (145.5)
Wang Cong (125) vs Victoria Leonardo (125)

Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWH7XAaJzk

Face Offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5c5imd5UA
legendary
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August 23, 2024, 04:24:32 PM
(...) Not only your guys is good at fighting, but he is also good at: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9Aig0st8L5/?igsh=MWpiZ3p1ZmdtYjBkOA Cheesy

Sounds like pre-recorded playback, but that's probably true for most modern "artists" during the live events, so not bad Smiley



Betting odds for tomorrow's UFC fight night:

Jared Cannonier x2.95 vs. Caio Borralho x1.40   
Angela Hill x2.04 vs. Tabatha Ricci x1.78         
Ryan Loder x2.28 vs. Robert Valentin Frey x1.63
Kaan Ofli x2.80 vs. Mairon Santos x1.44
Neil Magny x6.75 vs. Michael Morales x1.11
Edmen Shahbazyan x1.33 vs. Gerald Meerschaert x3.35

Decent odds for Jared. He's an underdog due to his age and the fact the Borralho is on the rise, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wins this one.
legendary
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August 23, 2024, 03:28:26 AM
Since its Friday, as usually, I have prepared something extraordinary.

Hey DDP fans, Ive got something for your. Not only your guys is good at fighting, but he is also good at: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9Aig0st8L5/?igsh=MWpiZ3p1ZmdtYjBkOA Cheesy

Even if he did not win, nobody would mind giving him a first prize. If all UFC fighters are tied strictly by contracts, do you think UFC support their fighters to participate in other shows or not? If he wasnt a champ, will they still let him to sing?
legendary
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August 22, 2024, 05:30:29 PM
So, apparently, Khalil Rountree confirmed in a recent interview that he isn't planning to shoot for a take down when fighting Pereira in October:
https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/khalil-rountree/khalil-rountree-reveals-he-isnt-planning-on-shooting-takedowns-against-alex-pereira/
Quick glance at Rountree's record and Wikipedia page: he has a background in Muay Thai and zero submission wins in his career. So at least we know why the UFC was so keen on matching him up against Alex.
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August 22, 2024, 03:05:42 PM
^  Oof...  Pereira will get himself starched if he moves down to 185.  Weight cuts takes a toll on some guys and pretty sure it does on Pereira as he's a big guy...  And in case you forgot, Adesanya knocked him out when they last met.  Lol.  It shows that he gets too much water out of his body to make weight.
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Going from 205 to 185 is really hard, but maybe the momentum that Pereira got in his last 4 fights (5 after his fight against Rountree Jr.) pushed him to do the unthinkable and that's to go back to middleweight division. He believes that he can jump from 185 to 205 so he can go down as well. Pereira loves challenges and he sees this as one of his challenges hence, he wants it.

It's just a bit disappointing that many expected him to fight the likes of Jones, and Ankalaev but he chooses to go back to 185 and fight DDP. I also don't know if he's comfortable with that division because like what you said, he got knocked out against Adesanya when they fought for the 2nd time. It surely takes some toll on the fighter, but let's see how this will play. Pereira looks comfortable at 205, so why going back to 185 to reclaim the title again. Hmmm.

He has been moving back and forth from HW to MW in his kickboxing career, so he must have been used to it. Pereira is just attempting to just keep his name on the media being talked about, sort of an attention grabber this time. He knows Dana will not grant this fight impromptu. It's beyond his decision but he will gladly do it after all he doesn't care about losing as long as he is entertained and gets paid, he lost several times already.

Maybe there is a satisfaction in beating the guy who defeated his rival in the MW division.
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August 22, 2024, 12:03:53 PM
^  Oof...  Pereira will get himself starched if he moves down to 185.  Weight cuts takes a toll on some guys and pretty sure it does on Pereira as he's a big guy...  And in case you forgot, Adesanya knocked him out when they last met.  Lol.  It shows that he gets too much water out of his body to make weight.
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Going from 205 to 185 is really hard, but maybe the momentum that Pereira got in his last 4 fights (5 after his fight against Rountree Jr.) pushed him to do the unthinkable and that's to go back to middleweight division. He believes that he can jump from 185 to 205 so he can go down as well. Pereira loves challenges and he sees this as one of his challenges hence, he wants it.

It's just a bit disappointing that many expected him to fight the likes of Jones, and Ankalaev but he chooses to go back to 185 and fight DDP. I also don't know if he's comfortable with that division because like what you said, he got knocked out against Adesanya when they fought for the 2nd time. It surely takes some toll on the fighter, but let's see how this will play. Pereira looks comfortable at 205, so why going back to 185 to reclaim the title again. Hmmm.
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August 22, 2024, 06:36:54 AM
^  Oof...  Pereira will get himself starched if he moves down to 185.  Weight cuts takes a toll on some guys and pretty sure it does on Pereira as he's a big guy...  And in case you forgot, Adesanya knocked him out when they last met.  Lol.  It shows that he gets too much water out of his body to make weight.

But yeah, I really think they'll def fight in the cage on December as the co main event of Jones vs Miocic.  Book it.  Wink

Anyway, what are your leans and picks for the event this weekend?
legendary
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August 22, 2024, 05:37:45 AM
^  But then again, if you look at his record he's been knocking guys out left and right.  Grin  So I doubt he needs to wrestle that much.  And when he does, he usually goes for the body lock to grind his opponents against the cage...  Not the usual single leg or double leg to actually get a TD. I think Pereira will be in all kinds of problems vs Ankalaev.  

The UFC is prolly trying to get both Pereira and Ankalaev a photo finish vs their respective opponents before matching them up for a big main event or even a co main event of Jones vs Miocic on December..?

Honestly, I dont even think that Pereira and Ankalaev would meet Cheesy A possibility how things might turn - Pereira goes to middleweight to face DDP and Ankalaev fights for an interim belt. Then Pereira returns, but while he is returning, Ankalaev would lose that belt Cheesy Then one or two fights and Pereira retires. I expect same stupidity like it is in heavyweight division. A champion is on a pause and we have an interim champ, who real champ avoids like fire.
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August 21, 2024, 11:52:20 AM
-snip-To me, it seems like he lost a lot of motivation.
I saw the UFC 305 press conference clip. And at that time I immediately saw that Israel had lost his fighting spirit after his last fight. Adesanya had been inactive for a long time. At the press conference he seemed to want to try to revive his fighting spirit. One of them was by trying to discuss DDP who he said had said racist things. Israel used revenge as his motivation. This is different from DDP and I remember his iconic words "He (Adesanya) fights for me but I fight for glory". Damn that's a really cool word. DDP still has a high fighting spirit.

Honestly, Israel has got everything in the UFC. He has been the undefeated king in the middleweight class for a long time. He has defeated many elite fighters in his era. And he has managed to defeat his old shadow Pereira in his last fight. Even if Adesanya had chosen to retire at that time, his career would have been perfect.
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August 21, 2024, 06:59:11 AM
^  But then again, if you look at his record he's been knocking guys out left and right.  Grin  So I doubt he needs to wrestle that much.  And when he does, he usually goes for the body lock to grind his opponents against the cage...  Not the usual single leg or double leg to actually get a TD. I think Pereira will be in all kinds of problems vs Ankalaev.  

The UFC is prolly trying to get both Pereira and Ankalaev a photo finish vs their respective opponents before matching them up for a big main event or even a co main event of Jones vs Miocic on December..?

Here's a couple of replays to watch.

UFC Free Fight:  Cannonier vs Vettori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6g9S8Lt1dA

UFC Free Fight:  Borralho vs Craig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVngX0m6Y8
legendary
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August 21, 2024, 02:11:21 AM
To bad Ankalaev is not much of a top class wrestler, like many think. Only 31% of his takedowns are successful. And btw Pereira already got a black belt in bjj Grin Wasnt Pereira a little bit old already? Just wonder how many more fights he will have. Anyway, I am waiting for a real test with elite grappler for Pereira.
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August 20, 2024, 10:36:36 AM

^  Wtf?  Not saying Rountree deserves the title shot.  Just saying I'm intruiged as the dude can fight and prolly could break one of Pereira's legs.  Watch Rountree vs Modestas Bukauskas. 

And all the rumors about Pereira vs Jones or Pereria vs DDP are just journos trying to make stuff up for people to read.  It's what they do for a living.  Journos need to eat to you know...  Lol.

When Pereira inserted himself in the news by saying he wanted to go down to 185 again just to fight DDP, it was published on major MMA sites. He is a big star.

UFC probably just doesn't want Pereira to fight someone with a wrestling background yet that's why picking Rountree is the option. Maybe they only want Pereira to fight a striker. I think because Pereira can fill the Apex with whoever he fights, it's a money-wise decision.

Anka should make sense, he already fought for a title against Jan but it was a draw. He should get another but because the possibility that Pereira may lose against him is much higher, I guess Rountree. Itd be funny if Pereira loses.
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August 20, 2024, 06:36:40 AM
^  Wtf?  Not saying Rountree deserves the title shot.  Just saying I'm intruiged as the dude can fight and prolly could break one of Pereira's legs.  Watch Rountree vs Modestas Bukauskas.  

And all the rumors about Pereira vs Jones or Pereria vs DDP are just journos trying to make stuff up for people to read.  It's what they do for a living.  Journos need to eat to you know...  Lol.
legendary
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August 20, 2024, 06:22:02 AM
Dont we have rumours Pereira willing to fight Bones? Now he give some looks on middleweight division and DDP? What a guy, dropping and gaining tens of kilos like it is nothing Cheesy I wish I could do that after all-inclusive vacations Cheesy If fight against Rountree is intruiging, maybe we dont know something? Rountree with 13-5 record looks like an average guy. What is his best achievements? Former #8 Jacoby and #12 Smith? And that gives a chance to fight for a belt?


Btw tokeweed, if you like betting so much, you should place a bet on who will fight earlier, Bones or McGregor Cheesy
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August 20, 2024, 06:11:35 AM
Before making a bet, consider that Cannonier has lost his previous fight, it was rather controversial stoppage. Perhaps Cannonier was close to falling down, but after a stoppage, he quickly recovered. You can rewatch his fight against Imavov --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMbqnkIM7A

As for the DPP's next fight, allegedly Alex Pereira called him out saying he could move back down to the middleweight, but I think it's just a talk. Pereira is fighting with Khalil Rountree Jr. in October anyway, which I learned today, and I can't understand what motivated the UFC to match them both (I was on hols and wasn't following any news too closely).

That is such a bs match-up. It is not like I am rooting for Ankalaev, who is #2, but I dont get why #8 is getting a title fight after 5 straight wins, when Ankalaev has 12, but I dont get a guy who was caught using steroids, get a immediate title fight after his ban is over? Wtf is UFC logic ? Because Rountree was scheduled to fight Hill, and it had to be a title fight, but was replaced by Pereira, that is why? I dont get their logic.

Yup...  Def not betting on it.  But then again on fight day, 'it's just 10 bucks'.  Lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy  I just wanna watch these match ups and make it a little more interesting with a small bet.

And yeah, after Johnny Walker I was so sure that Ankalaev would get the title shot next.  But instead he got Rakic for 308?  Rakic just lost vs Prochazka, who lost to Pereira.  But if the UFC is setting these guys up for a bigger event on December then sure...  Hopefully it would make sense in the end.

Still, Pereira got an intruiging match up vs Rountree imho.  The dude can fight.
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August 20, 2024, 04:14:45 AM
That is such a bs match-up. It is not like I am rooting for Ankalaev, who is #2, but I dont get why #8 is getting a title fight after 5 straight wins, when Ankalaev has 12, but I dont get a guy who was caught using steroids, get a immediate title fight after his ban is over? Wtf is UFC logic ? Because Rountree was scheduled to fight Hill, and it had to be a title fight, but was replaced by Pereira, that is why? I dont get their logic.

I know, it just doesn't make sense from any point of view. Why would the UFC risk losing Pereira's money making potential by matching him up with relatively unknown fighter ranked 8th? If he loses to Rountree (and that's always a possibility) he will lose a lot of his scary boogie man aura and will be much harder to sell.
Some speculate that fight could be cancelled and we'll see Pereira Vs DPP, but somehow I don't believe it.

Anyone remember why they haven't matched Pereira up against Ankalaev? Has Dana explained that at all? I was sure Ankalaev was confirmed to be the next in line for the title fight but they're both fighting different opponents around the same time (UFC 307 and 308, both in October).

As I remember UFC never give any explanations why they havent make this or that matchup. The maximum they can say it that someone hasnt accepted contract or someone is a good candidate. I remember that Ankalaev is always near a title fight, but there is always another opponent for a champ and for him Cheesy Maybe the logic is that he had a draw against Blachowicz, then a NC. Maybe not a best looking record for a title fight. Anyway, Pereira seems to be new milking cow, new hype of UFC, so they would feed him average or convenient guys as long as they could.
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August 19, 2024, 10:08:56 AM
That is such a bs match-up. It is not like I am rooting for Ankalaev, who is #2, but I dont get why #8 is getting a title fight after 5 straight wins, when Ankalaev has 12, but I dont get a guy who was caught using steroids, get a immediate title fight after his ban is over? Wtf is UFC logic ? Because Rountree was scheduled to fight Hill, and it had to be a title fight, but was replaced by Pereira, that is why? I dont get their logic.

I know, it just doesn't make sense from any point of view. Why would the UFC risk losing Pereira's money making potential by matching him up with relatively unknown fighter ranked 8th? If he loses to Rountree (and that's always a possibility) he will lose a lot of his scary boogie man aura and will be much harder to sell.
Some speculate that fight could be cancelled and we'll see Pereira Vs DPP, but somehow I don't believe it.

Anyone remember why they haven't matched Pereira up against Ankalaev? Has Dana explained that at all? I was sure Ankalaev was confirmed to be the next in line for the title fight but they're both fighting different opponents around the same time (UFC 307 and 308, both in October).
legendary
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August 19, 2024, 06:59:25 AM
Before making a bet, consider that Cannonier has lost his previous fight, it was rather controversial stoppage. Perhaps Cannonier was close to falling down, but after a stoppage, he quickly recovered. You can rewatch his fight against Imavov --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMbqnkIM7A

As for the DPP's next fight, allegedly Alex Pereira called him out saying he could move back down to the middleweight, but I think it's just a talk. Pereira is fighting with Khalil Rountree Jr. in October anyway, which I learned today, and I can't understand what motivated the UFC to match them both (I was on hols and wasn't following any news too closely).

That is such a bs match-up. It is not like I am rooting for Ankalaev, who is #2, but I dont get why #8 is getting a title fight after 5 straight wins, when Ankalaev has 12, but I dont get a guy who was caught using steroids, get a immediate title fight after his ban is over? Wtf is UFC logic ? Because Rountree was scheduled to fight Hill, and it had to be a title fight, but was replaced by Pereira, that is why? I dont get their logic.
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August 19, 2024, 06:42:47 AM
^  I lean Cannonier but at the current line at 2.55, no value imho.  I know I don't make huge bets in these and I sometimes bet last minute no matter the line.  Lolol.  But I wanna do it the right way at the start of the week until I can't anymore hours before the event starts.  Cheesy Cheesy  But yeah, dunno...  It's a huge step up for Borralho.  Cannonier is old but he doesn't look like he's slowing down.

Here are my leans at first glance...

Cannonier
Hill
Morales
Mmmm...  Maybe Meerschart
No lean with Loder vs Valentin
Silva
Reese
Borshchev
Nunes
Leonardo

Oh and DCWS Week 2 in a couple of days. 

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