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Quote from: trendcoin on November 05, 2024, 12:40:16 PM

Li Jingliang is 183 cm tall. I thought he was shorter (Khamzat misled me by making him look too easy, I am not mistaken, Khamzat is faulty. :b). It won't be easy for him to drop down to a lower weight class. You're right about the irony, he'd have to cut off his arm to do that...

I think a fighter like Li Jingliang would be best suited to play at Welterweight or Middleweight, like Khamzat did. With a body like Jinliang it would be hard for him to fight even at Lightweight instead of wanting to go down to Bantamweight or below. So I don't think Jingliang would decide to go down a division because it would be almost impossible to do.

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The main event of UFC 309 is a topic of discussion among UFC fans. The matchup between Jones and Miocic has been criticized. It seems pointless to match Jones against Miocic instead of Aspinall, the interim belt holder.

Yeah I wonder what Uncle Dana is thinking. I mean why would Dana decide to give Miocic the heavyweight belt fight? Guys if the reason is because Miocic is the GOAT in the heavyweight division I think his prime is over. I would 100% favor Jones to win that fight. I think it would make more sense if that fight was against Aspinall. If Jones wins then he deserves to be in the heavyweight hall of fame.

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^ He's still one of the more popular guys in the UFC tho, so it makes sense to to go send him fight a tough, Kazakh bro to build Rakhmonov up and make him one of the more sought after commodities in the UFC. I think a lot of people would pay to watch him rather than Belal Muhammad imho.

Nothing against Muhammad, it's just Rakhmonov as the champ would make 170 a hell lot more exciting. And I hope he gets to fight the Ian Garry guy and knocks him out cold. Lol.

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If Usman did not deserve to have that interim champ title fight, then he also does not deserve to be #2 of division after 3 straight losses Cheesy

That looks like an absurd; loosing and still be so highly ranked. And in case Usman losses for the fourth time, he will only become #3 in division. However Cheesy

With some UFC fighters, number of losses does not mean anything. How many losses in a row did Ferguson had before he has left top15 ? Btw, with a UFC record of 8 losses in a row, he is still counted as active fighter for UFC Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on November 05, 2024, 12:08:50 PM

People expect Shavkat and he too expects to fight for the title. It would be unfair to wait for Belal til his injury heals which would take a month or two plus Ramadan which is also another month. An interim would be cool, I'd like to see Shavkat fight but maybe Edwards or JDM. Usman already lost his last 3 fights, I'm sure he doesn't want another. The Shavkat vs Belal fight can still happen next year.

Ramadan starts 28 Feb and lasts one month, so potentially they could fight before then.
And yeah, I don't see how Shavkat fighting for the interim belt would be unfair to anyone. It's Belal who is unable to fight. If anything, it would be unfair to make Shavkat wait for his next payday for ~2 more months if not more. And it's not like Belal will be stripped of his belt or anything.

I like the idea of Shavkat fighting Usman, provided Usman agrees and will be ready by then. Some say Kamaru is not deserving because he lost his last 3 fights, but he only lost to Edwards, once by KO and the second time by decision (in an even fight), and to Chimaev, who now is one of the most feared fighters in the UFC. In that last fight, he fought on a very short notice and moved up to a higher weight class and still did surprisingly well, so it'd be fair to give him a chance.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 05, 2024, 09:02:09 AM

Quote from: trendcoin on November 04, 2024, 01:57:36 PM

I think Jingliang should drop down to a lower weight class. He struggled in a similar way in the Khamzat fight. Not everyone can be like Mike Tyson (including me :b). He can have better fights at the lower weights. Flyweight or bantamweight might be better for him.

Li Jingliang, that the guy who Chimaev lifted like a toy, took the fence and chocked while talking to Dana :D That was at "officially" 77kg, somebody wants him to go down to bantamweight, which is 61kg max :D Or even flyweight which is 57kg? How this would be possible? By cutting one arm off?
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Li Jingliang is 183 cm tall. I thought he was shorter (Khamzat misled me by making him look too easy, I am not mistaken, Khamzat is faulty. :b). It won't be easy for him to drop down to a lower weight class. You're right about the irony, he'd have to cut off his arm to do that... :)

The main event of UFC 309 is a topic of discussion among UFC fans. The matchup between Jones and Miocic has been criticized. It seems pointless to match Jones against Miocic instead of Aspinall, the interim belt holder.

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People expect Shavkat and he too expects to fight for the title. It would be unfair to wait for Belal til his injury heals which would take a month or two plus Ramadan which is also another month. An interim would be cool, I'd like to see Shavkat fight but maybe Edwards or JDM. Usman already lost his last 3 fights, I'm sure he doesn't want another. The Shavkat vs Belal fight can still happen next year.

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Quote from: trendcoin on November 04, 2024, 01:57:36 PM

I think Jingliang should drop down to a lower weight class. He struggled in a similar way in the Khamzat fight. Not everyone can be like Mike Tyson (including me :b). He can have better fights at the lower weights. Flyweight or bantamweight might be better for him.

Li Jingliang, that the guy who Chimaev lifted like a toy, took the fence and chocked while talking to Dana Cheesy

That was at "officially" 77kg, somebody wants him to go down to bantamweight, which is 61kg max Cheesy

Or even flyweight which is 57kg? How this would be possible? By cutting one arm off? Because Jingliang is height, when this division require speedy battle dwarfs. There is one unique tall and light guy, O'Malley. Got declassed by stamina dwarf from Georgia. Jinglians is 36, his metabolism starts to slow down. It will be harder for him to cut without loosing advantage in stamina or health issues. He should do opposite, gain weight if he wishes to continue. Its either young light and quick, or elder slow and heavy. Everything what is between is meat for making mma record Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2024, 07:17:49 AM

Next event is such a filler event (except de Ridder fight - this is guy is former One FC two weight class champ), that I would rather speculate whos going to be Shavhat next opponent. Shavkat says he is ready to fight anyway for interim belt. Belal says that he is off for 6 weeks only and hints that maybe they should reschedule their fight, instead of fighting someone else, or he trolls Shavkat about interim title, when he is off only for weeks, not months.

I think for our sakes as guys who just want to see Rakhmonov throw leather in the cage, it would be nice to have another opponent for an interim championship scrap. Pretty sure Rakhmonov would love it and both Usman and Edwards would love to get another crack at it too.

But yeah, we'll see what the UFC has in store for us.

Quote from: trendcoin on November 04, 2024, 01:57:36 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 04, 2024, 07:04:32 AM

^ Not really a good event but if you guys wanna watch a good beating then Magny vs Prates is def for you. Lol. Watch Prates last match, I think it was against Radtke who's also gonna fight in the same event. Cheesy

The UFC knows what their doing by pitting him against somewhat a known commodity in Magny. They need to prop up this guy Prates as he's really decent. His next fight after winning this one tho... Pretty sure he'll be matched up against somebody really good. Hopefully the bookies keep lining him up as the huge favorite. Wink

Here's a replay...

UFC Free Fight: Carlos Prates vs Li Jingliang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoJBn7Y6mIU

I want to put a parenthesis to your message. I think Jingliang should drop down to a lower weight class. He struggled in a similar way in the Khamzat fight. Not everyone can be like Mike Tyson (including me :b). He can have better fights at the lower weights. Flyweight or bantamweight might be better for him.

Rofl. Li Jingliang at flyweight... Like he'd be dead from dehydration. Cheesy

Here's a free fight of Magny.

UFC Free Fight: Neil Magny vs Mike Malott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rkP0Ss4fVQ

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Quote from: trendcoin on November 04, 2024, 01:57:36 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2024, 07:17:49 AM

Next event is such a filler event (except de Ridder fight - this is guy is former One FC two weight class champ), that I would rather speculate whos going to be Shavhat next opponent. Shavkat says he is ready to fight anyway for interim belt. Belal says that he is off for 6 weeks only and hints that maybe they should reschedule their fight, instead of fighting someone else, or he trolls Shavkat about interim title, when he is off only for weeks, not months.

Kamaru Usman is expected and he seems to be eager for it. After Belal posted about his injury, he posted the following: https://x.com/USMAN84kg/status/1852046445148541338

https://www.mmamania.com/2024/11/4/24288103/shavkat-rakhmonov-vs-kamaru-usman-negotiations-going-ufc-310-interim-title-fight-belal-mma - here they predict also that its is going to be Usman. For media, Usman is a better opponent for Shavkat than Belal Cheesy

People often laught at Belal, and remember how cool Usman was. Which means PPV sales would be much better. And in record, a victory over Usman looks like a bigger advantage than victory over Belal Cheesy

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 04, 2024, 07:04:32 AM

^ Not really a good event but if you guys wanna watch a good beating then Magny vs Prates is def for you. Lol. Watch Prates last match, I think it was against Radtke who's also gonna fight in the same event. :D :D The UFC knows what their doing by pitting him against somewhat a known commodity in Magny. They need to prop up this guy Prates as he's really decent. His next fight after winning this one tho... Pretty sure he'll be matched up against somebody really good. Hopefully the bookies keep lining him up as the huge favorite. ;)

Here's a replay...

UFC Free Fight: Carlos Prates vs Li Jingliang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoJBn7Y6mIU

I want to put a parenthesis to your message. I think Jingliang should drop down to a lower weight class. He struggled in a similar way in the Khamzat fight. Not everyone can be like Mike Tyson (including me :b). He can have better fights at the lower weights. Flyweight or bantamweight might be better for him.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 04, 2024, 07:17:49 AM

Next event is such a filler event (except de Ridder fight - this is guy is former One FC two weight class champ), that I would rather speculate whos going to be Shavhat next opponent. Shavkat says he is ready to fight anyway for interim belt. Belal says that he is off for 6 weeks only and hints that maybe they should reschedule their fight, instead of fighting someone else, or he trolls Shavkat about interim title, when he is off only for weeks, not months.

Kamaru Usman is expected and he seems to be eager for it. After Belal posted about his injury, he posted the following: https://x.com/USMAN84kg/status/1852046445148541338

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Next event is such a filler event (except de Ridder fight - this is guy is former One FC two weight class champ), that I would rather speculate whos going to be Shavhat next opponent. Shavkat says he is ready to fight anyway for interim belt. Belal says that he is off for 6 weeks only and hints that maybe they should reschedule their fight, instead of fighting someone else, or he trolls Shavkat about interim title, when he is off only for weeks, not months.

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^ Not really a good event but if you guys wanna watch a good beating then Magny vs Prates is def for you. Lol. Watch Prates last match, I think it was against Radtke who's also gonna fight in the same event. Cheesy

The UFC knows what their doing by pitting him against somewhat a known commodity in Magny. They need to prop up this guy Prates as he's really decent. His next fight after winning this one tho... Pretty sure he'll be matched up against somebody really good. Hopefully the bookies keep lining him up as the huge favorite. Wink

Here's a replay...

UFC Free Fight: Carlos Prates vs Li Jingliang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoJBn7Y6mIU

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UFC Fight Night: Magny vs. Prates

Date: November 9, 2024

Preliminary Card: Sat, Nov 9 / 11:00 PM GMT+2
Main Card: Sun, Nov 10 / 2:00 AM GMT+2

Venue:    UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN)
Welterweight: Neil Magny vs. Carlos Prates
Bantamweight: Cody Garbrandt vs. Miles Johns
Women's Strawweight: Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Denise Gomes
Bantamweight: Ricky Turcios vs. Bernardo Sopaj
Middleweight: Gerald Meerschaert vs. Reinier de Ridder
Women's Strawweight: Luana Pinheiro vs. Gillian Robertson

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Welterweight: Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos vs. Nicolas Dalby
Middleweight: Mansur Abdul-Malik vs. Duško Todorović
Welterweight: Matthew Semelsberger vs. Charles Radtke
Bantamweight: Cody Stamann vs. Da'Mon Blackshear
Women's Bantamweight: Melissa Mullins vs. Klaudia Syguła
Bantamweight: Gaston Bolaños vs. Cortavious Romious
Middleweight: Tresean Gore vs. Antonio Trócoli

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Magny_vs._Prates

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2024, 06:28:11 AM

Anyway here are the results for this weekend's event.

Brandon Moreno def Amir Albazi

I thought in this week event for one of the main cards of the fight between Brandon Moreno vs Amir Albazi would give surprise with Amir Albazi victory but in the end Brandon got the victory and this also made Amir Albazi have to accept his second defeat while fighting with UFC. Brandon victory also gave him sense of happiness over the disappointment in the previous fight which had several defeats, he was quite dominant with such hard punches that he got the absolute decision victory.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 29, 2024, 05:06:08 AM

Who has noticed that Chimaev has changed greatly? Not as a fighter, but as a person. Compared with his jungle behaviour, running to octagon, being loud on conference. With a humbler person with glasses, sitting calmly. Does anyone knows what happened to him or have any clue why a person could change so much ? He is like turned from aggressive teenager into 40 yo adult Cheesy

Yes because of his one-year old son is in hospital and needs to get multiple surgeries on his kidney which is why khamzat seems more reserved and calm this time around. This could honestly make him an even better fighter than before.

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I guess he has confused millionaire and billionaire Grin

one or two extra zeros on back account, but such a huge difference irl. If I am not mistaken, then Topuria has earned 750k just for the fight. Plus he has got a bonus, ppv sales, sponsor money. Perhaps other sponsors benefits besides ufc official (maybe someone gave him and his family black suits for free or built in-home gym with creo bath for free) also gave him something. I would say he has earn more than a million for his performance against Max. But not a billion definitely.

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Quote from: l99l on November 03, 2024, 09:36:36 AM

I think we can all agree that Topuria or any other fighter is not going to make a billion dollars in the UFC. Grin

At the weekend's event. I watched the Rose and Blanchfield match and the next match.
Rose started well in the first and second rounds of the five-round fight, the referees decided so anyway.
In the remaining rounds, Erin Blanchfield managed to intimidate her, closed the distance, stopped her from striking, used her wrestling, it worked and she won the match.
The match between Brandon Moreno and Amir Albazi was a very comfortable one for Moreno. Albazi took all the hits and was only able to takedown once, but he could not control Moreno.

I didn't watch or bet, but looking at the result, I'm glad I skipped and the majority of this event ended up in a decision. They said that if Rose wins, she will get a title shot, and Brandon still got it.

Now that Topuria has a name in combat sports, I think he will have a better offer. If he is just into boxing, he would definitely make millions as young as he is. Ryan Garcia at 24 has more than $40M net worth. Wait a while and we might be seeing him crossing over to boxing if he can escape Dana.

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I think we can all agree that Topuria or any other fighter is not going to make a billion dollars in the UFC. Grin

At the weekend's event. I watched the Rose and Blanchfield match and the next match.
Rose started well in the first and second rounds of the five-round fight, the referees decided so anyway.
In the remaining rounds, Erin Blanchfield managed to intimidate her, closed the distance, stopped her from striking, used her wrestling, it worked and she won the match.
The match between Brandon Moreno and Amir Albazi was a very comfortable one for Moreno. Albazi took all the hits and was only able to takedown once, but he could not control Moreno.

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^ I don't think Topuria's financial status has been made public. And as far as being a billionaire, maybe his parents made a fortune when they moved to Spain but for Topuria himself..? Pretty sure he didn't make billions in the UFC. Lmao. Cheesy

Anyway here are the results for this weekend's event.

Brandon Moreno def Amir Albazi
Erin Blanchfield def Rose Namajunas
Brendson Ribeiro def Caio Machado
Jasmine Jasudavicius def Ariane da Silva
Dustin Stoltzfus def Marc-Andre Barriault
Mike Malott def Trevin Giles
Aiemann Zahabi def Pedro Munhoz
Charles Jourdain def Victor Henry
Youssef Zalal def Jack Shore
Alexander Romanov def Rodrigo Nascimento
Serhiy Sidey def Garrett Armfield
Cody Gibson def Chad Anheliger
Jamey-Lyn Horth def Ivana Petrovic

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Quote from: l99l on October 31, 2024, 08:57:48 AM

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After the fight I found out that Topuria is a billionaire. For me it's like an anomaly. I mean some fighters are born from hard life so fighting becomes their passion. And most fighters who started from poor people and they fight to get money and improve their life. But Topuria is different. He is super rich since birth. And he loves to fight. And fortunately he can use the financial advantage to shape himself into a tough fighter. I can say Topuria is like a lab product because he has personal training and several personal assistants who monitor his physique, routine and nutrition. As a result he became a very complete fighter. One of the coolest sayings from Topuria is that he fights not for money, but for legacy. It looks like he will be one of the longest reigning champions in his division.

Forget Topuria, he wasn't a billinoner, If he was that rich, I don't think he would do mma. Fighters usually decide to become fighters because they live in bad conditions, the best example is the Bronxs.

Ilia Topuria is from Georgia. His parents immigrated from our country in 90s. They didn't do it because they were rich, they did it because they were poor and wanted a good life. Quality of life was very low in my country during that time and everyone was trying to migrate for a better life. Ilia's parents migrated with that reason.
How he became this rich is unknown for me but if everyone wants, I'll try to search for it, there might be some info in my local language. Btw I have a doubt that he might befriend with criminals. That's very common with fighters, especially with Georgian fighters because criminality was part of our mentality, it got fixed only a few years ago.
In one interview Ilia said that he does stock trading but I don't believe that. There is definitely something hidden but at the same time, we don't know how popular Topuria is in Spain. He might be making millions of dollars from advertisements and sponsorships. Is there someone from Spain to talk about him?

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