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November 30, 2022, 03:49:06 PM
I might be incorrect (cant google it properly from the phone right now), but for example Petr Yan always wear flag during decision announcement. But he had no flag after his fight against Sean O'Malley. Come on, Petr Yan is a 100% Siberian, which means he is Russian from toe to head, wears Orthodox cross all the time, and he is without the flag ? Hard to believe there are no shady games behind UFC scenes.

But please, enough of the politics here, lets get back to business. Did you guys noticed, that Nate Diaz is a free agent right now ? Cheesy The bird is free and not can start creating his own promotion.

Well, Flag prohibition is here to stay, and here is the ARTICLE about it, as you have said that Sterling is carrying a Jamaican flag, while Petr Yan doesn't have any, and we can see in that post that Chito Vera is not allowed to carry the Ecuadorian flag during his walkout against Rob Font, and Dana White is not saying anything about the flag ban, right now it is really prohibited unless the fighters want to pay the amount if they do want to walk with a forbidden flag on the UFC,

I am happy with Nate Diaz as he is now free to making his own actions now, and with this Jake Paul has wasted no time in challenging Nate Diaz, surely if this comes to fruition it will be another huge cash-in for Jake Paul even if he losses to Nate Diaz, here is the ARTICLE,
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November 30, 2022, 02:25:12 PM
I have to say that the UFC has just not been the same for me since the days of Chuck Lidell, Tito Ortiz, etc etc.  Those were certainly the glory days for the UFC in my opinion, and have to think they were the most popular days of UFC's history (though I could be very wrong about this).  

Anyways I had really lost a lot of love for it, especially seeing douchebags like Connor McGregor run the show for such a long period of time.  But now I'm pretty pumped to have a new favorite fighter in Paddy the Baddy from Ireland.  Anyways else become a fan of his too?!

UFC had to make Conor the poster boy. Because if I remember correctly UFC was not having a good time during that period. And Connor McGregor was the one who started to sell more and more fights. He was also getting people very interested in UFC. And after all, UFC has to generate profits. Otherwise, they would cease to exist. And Dana White also said that himself. He is going to give those fighters better chances who can bring in the money. And at that time there was another problem. All the fighters started saying that they wanted” money fights.” But they were not bringing in the money.

As far as I am concerned, Paddy Pimblett is actually a bit overrated in my opinion. And I think this controversial opinion is going to be proven once he starts fighting against top level fighters.

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November 30, 2022, 01:58:59 PM
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Conor McGregor introduced the UFC to a lot of people. But Khabib Nurmagomedov was the one to become a legend and make people understand what hard work is.
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Every fighter who fights at an elite level has to sacrifice and undergo immense training and hard work to be on that level,

I agree. Do you think I don’t believe that Connor McGregor did not train well enough for that fight?

Of course, Conor McGregor trained really hard. But Connor McGregor always cared about his social status, showing off to other people, how many cars he has, etc.

But Khabib Nurmagomedov did not have anything like that in his mind. He didn’t run after the money, he didn’t run after no girls. Training was how most of the time in his life was spent. And it is hard to beat a guy like that.

Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.
Even if Mc Gregor is at his prime. In fact, let me tell Mc Gregor that if he focuses entirely on fighting, he doesn't gamble at all, he doesn't care about social status or anything, he only cares about the fight, but I still see it as impossible for him to beat Khabib, purely because of the style difference they do. Sambo and wrestling style are more advantageous compared to a superior striker, so Mc Gregor's hard work wouldn't mean anything to me, of course there are a lot of people who have different opinions.
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November 30, 2022, 12:50:49 PM
I don't trust anything coming from McGregor and all theater around him, but he is now calling out his ex training partner Lobov to fight and settle their problems.
This could be one more of his marketing tricks to attract attention from people to pay and watch this two guys in octagon.
If this fight ever happens my theory would shown to be true, but that is only if people show enough interest to watch and pay.

Would you pay to watch McGregor vs Lobov?

I certainly would not be able to watch Conor McGregor vs Artem Lobov. But I know that a lot of people would. For some reason, I feel like this is not going to be a fight off the same class opponents. I am not sure, can you tell me in which flight class this flight is going to take place if it does? Because last what I had seen, Conor McGregor put on a serious amount of weight.

Anyway, this fight is not going to interest me. Something interesting for me is going to be Conor McGregor vs Islam Makhachev, but that certainly isn’t happening.
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November 30, 2022, 12:06:30 PM


^  Wait...  There's a fine if a Russian flag is displayed by the fighter?  I know Russian flags were disallowed in F1 but I didn't notice it was also the same in the UFC or even football.
No flags of any country will be carried by any fighter and that is the new policy by the UFC, if any fighters violate them, there wont be any fine but probably released from the UFC and that is how Dana White usually conducts business, his way or the highway  Cheesy.

Yeah..  But I think some people are trying to pin the issue totally on Dana White or the UFC.  He has his hands tied and he prolly doesn't give a fk which flag you wave around during walk outs.  You could wave a flag around that says the UFC sucks and he wouldn't care.  It's the United States gov imposing those rules as Russia is currently 'the enemy'.  It's a weird time. 

Anyway, you guys got any picks and bets for this weekend's event?  There are some pretty good match ups in here...  Levy vs Valdez is gonna be good, Price vs Rowe, Hermansson vs Dolidze, Tuivasa vs Pavlovich and Nicolau vs Schnell.

It's always weird when politics takes over. The war sometimes extends to MMA matches.
Tuivasa is the only recognizable name on the list. Will go for Holland as long as he isn't fighting Khamzat.

Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.

With Conor's leg having a crack, he wouldn't last anymore even if he fights someone else like Aldo who probably hates his guts more than anyone. Aldo will be throwing damaging leg kicks to punish him.
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November 30, 2022, 10:46:38 AM
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Conor McGregor introduced the UFC to a lot of people. But Khabib Nurmagomedov was the one to become a legend and make people understand what hard work is.
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Every fighter who fights at an elite level has to sacrifice and undergo immense training and hard work to be on that level,

I agree. Do you think I don’t believe that Connor McGregor did not train well enough for that fight?

Of course, Conor McGregor trained really hard. But Connor McGregor always cared about his social status, showing off to other people, how many cars he has, etc.

But Khabib Nurmagomedov did not have anything like that in his mind. He didn’t run after the money, he didn’t run after no girls. Training was how most of the time in his life was spent. And it is hard to beat a guy like that.

Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.
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November 30, 2022, 10:25:39 AM



^  Wait...  There's a fine if a Russian flag is displayed by the fighter?  I know Russian flags were disallowed in F1 but I didn't notice it was also the same in the UFC or even football.
No flags of any country will be carried by any fighter and that is the new policy by the UFC, if any fighters violate them, there wont be any fine but probably released from the UFC and that is how Dana White usually conducts business, his way or the highway  Cheesy.

Yeah..  But I think some people are trying to pin the issue totally on Dana White or the UFC.  He has his hands tied and he prolly doesn't give a fk which flag you wave around during walk outs.  You could wave a flag around that says the UFC sucks and he wouldn't care.  It's the United States gov imposing those rules as Russia is currently 'the enemy'.  It's a weird time.  

Anyway, you guys got any picks and bets for this weekend's event?  There are some pretty good match ups in here...  Levy vs Valdez is gonna be good, Price vs Rowe, Hermansson vs Dolidze, Tuivasa vs Pavlovich and Nicolau vs Schnell.
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November 30, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
I might be incorrect (cant google it properly from the phone right now), but for example Petr Yan always wear flag during decision announcement. But he had no flag after his fight against Sean O'Malley. Come on, Petr Yan is a 100% Siberian, which means he is Russian from toe to head, wears Orthodox cross all the time, and he is without the flag ? Hard to believe there are no shady games behind UFC scenes.

But please, enough of the politics here, lets get back to business. Did you guys noticed, that Nate Diaz is a free agent right now ? Cheesy The bird is free and not can start creating his own promotion.
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November 30, 2022, 09:03:42 AM

Russians or any other fighters can still wear thier flags when they are introduced in the cage but they are to shoulder the fine that UFC imposes on them. I wouldn't say the UFC decides this one alone but perhaps MMA organization wouldn't want to be in the political hot seat.

While anyone is proud to represent themselves for thier countrymen, the fine may just be too big. Russian names are obvious though. Doesn't need a flag for it.


Right now I think Russian fighters in all sorts of combat sports know the situation right now there is a war that is going on at the moment and I guess the UFC is not really prohibiting Russian fighters to wear their flags but there will be fine if they did that, they just need to pay, but at least not prohibiting them from doing so, but yeah I think Russian fighters know the situations right now and I think for now  haven't seen any flags yet, but yeah if the situations subside which is not really happening right now this may continue for as long as we really don't know,


UFC cannot afford to lose the Russian fan base. Because the Russian fan base is almost half of the fans of UFC. And obviously having Khabib Nurmagomedov had a big influence on the UFC and that is a big reason why we see so many Russian fighters in the UFC right now.

In addition, more and more Russians are becoming interested in the UFC day by day. I like what UFC is doing right now. They are not making a fuss about it and just doing what they should. They are just handling business right now and they are staying as far away as they can from all the propaganda and politics about the Russia versus Ukraine war.

I really think they will not lose the Russian fan base sure there are just a lot of Russian Fighters and many of them are really dominating on the ground, surely because of the ground game of Khabib Nurmagomedov, it was a game-changer for the UFC and other combat sports so far, and their style on ground game is also dominating the Jiujitsu users in all combat sports right now, pretty much if a Russian Dagestani fighter is present inside the octagon or ring, it will surely showcase Dagestani Wrestling VS Brazilian Jiujitsu for sure,

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November 29, 2022, 08:45:39 PM
Woodley seems to be trying to get Jake Paul to enter into an MMA fight for a third matchup between them now. Jake has moved on, but it’s crazy that he’s getting called out by fighters now. Jake looks like he’ll be staying with boxing though and apparently has fight offers out to Tommy Fury, Nate Diaz, & Andrew Tate. I personally don’t care about Tommy Fury but the other two would probably be fun to watch.
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November 29, 2022, 07:33:30 PM
I have to say that the UFC has just not been the same for me since the days of Chuck Lidell, Tito Ortiz, etc etc.  Those were certainly the glory days for the UFC in my opinion, and have to think they were the most popular days of UFC's history (though I could be very wrong about this). 

Anyways I had really lost a lot of love for it, especially seeing douchebags like Connor McGregor run the show for such a long period of time.  But now I'm pretty pumped to have a new favorite fighter in Paddy the Baddy from Ireland.  Anyways else become a fan of his too?!
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November 29, 2022, 06:26:01 PM
I don't trust anything coming from McGregor and all theater around him, but he is now calling out his ex training partner Lobov to fight and settle their problems.
This could be one more of his marketing tricks to attract attention from people to pay and watch this two guys in octagon.
If this fight ever happens my theory would shown to be true, but that is only if people show enough interest to watch and pay.

Would you pay to watch McGregor vs Lobov?
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November 29, 2022, 04:46:23 PM
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Conor McGregor introduced the UFC to a lot of people. But Khabib Nurmagomedov was the one to become a legend and make people understand what hard work is.
Every fighter who fights at an elite level has to sacrifice and undergo immense training and hard work to be on that level, if not you will see your face planted in the mat in front of the world to see  Cheesy. The skill level of Khabib is on a different level and all credits to his father and coach Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov because he created 18 champions in different discipline and a bunch of youngsters coming through in the world stage in the coming years.

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Russian athletes participate in UFC right now with a small remark - I think they are not allowed (or at least asked) not to bring Russian flags during ring walk and decision announcement. Remember how they always put flags on their shoulders or back? Havent seen flags for a while. Maybe there are more politics involved in other MMA promotions, but, as UFC are a lot about money, they will never lose a chance to earn. UFC rooster is full of Russian fighters, Russian UFC fan base is huge. UFC will never turn back against such a sweet peace of pie.
You do not need to mix sports, politics and agenda together. There is no flags allowed in the UFC and it is their policy now. The best fighters get a contract with the UFC and if that turns out to be Russians, what is there is to do. UFC was loosing money when it started and for years even when Dana was the president and now they are making money, so is it a bad thing or a good thing.

I love to watch elite level fighting and UFC provides them, there was a time when Pride FC and Strike Force were better but they had to shut their doors because they are not making profit. Glad that Dana White was able to create a sports and make fans interested in it so that they will not shut down like the others.

^  Wait...  There's a fine if a Russian flag is displayed by the fighter?  I know Russian flags were disallowed in F1 but I didn't notice it was also the same in the UFC or even football.
No flags of any country will be carried by any fighter and that is the new policy by the UFC, if any fighters violate them, there wont be any fine but probably released from the UFC and that is how Dana White usually conducts business, his way or the highway  Cheesy.
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November 29, 2022, 01:56:55 PM
He probably can, Błachowicz has more experience but that's because Błachowicz is an old man (39) compared to Ankalaev (30) and even if he have more fights behind him, percetually he has lost way more of them (Błachowicz around 31% while Ankalaev has lost under 6% of his).
I am still cheering for Błachowicz out of principle and as an underdog.
Then there's the fact that Ankalaev is from Russia and Błachowicz from Poland, because relations between those countries are politically heated to say the least, i am guessing that this is not going to be a friendly match.
I mean why you're trying to link between UFC and politic? if politic is really happen on UFC, any Russian fighter can't fight in UFC anymore since their country get blacklisted until the problem is already solved.
Sorry to butt in but there is actually politics happening in any sports division.  By saying politics, it isn't about politics as in politics that involved the country leaders' point of view.  It is politics within the UFC.  And that is also the reason why Russian athletes are still participating in UFC fights.
Russian athletes participate in UFC right now with a small remark - I think they are not allowed (or at least asked) not to bring Russian flags during ring walk and decision announcement. Remember how they always put flags on their shoulders or back? Havent seen flags for a while. Maybe there are more politics involved in other MMA promotions, but, as UFC are a lot about money, they will never lose a chance to earn. UFC rooster is full of Russian fighters, Russian UFC fan base is huge. UFC will never turn back against such a sweet peace of pie.

UFC cannot afford to lose the Russian fan base. Because the Russian fan base is almost half of the fans of UFC. And obviously having Khabib Nurmagomedov had a big influence on the UFC and that is a big reason why we see so many Russian fighters in the UFC right now.

In addition, more and more Russians are becoming interested in the UFC day by day. I like what UFC is doing right now. They are not making a fuss about it and just doing what they should. They are just handling business right now and they are staying as far away as they can from all the propaganda and politics about the Russia versus Ukraine war.
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November 29, 2022, 01:02:34 PM
He probably can, Błachowicz has more experience but that's because Błachowicz is an old man (39) compared to Ankalaev (30) and even if he have more fights behind him, percetually he has lost way more of them (Błachowicz around 31% while Ankalaev has lost under 6% of his).

I am still cheering for Błachowicz out of principle and as an underdog.

Then there's the fact that Ankalaev is from Russia and Błachowicz from Poland, because relations between those countries are politically heated to say the least, i am guessing that this is not going to be a friendly match.
I mean why you're trying to link between UFC and politic? if politic is really happen on UFC, any Russian fighter can't fight in UFC anymore since their country get blacklisted until the problem is already solved. I don't think any fighter will going to be a friendly match no matter how big their friendship is, they will sorry after the match will end, but during match they will be professional and want to beat their opponent.

Anyway it's sad to see Prochazka cancelled the fight, the odds for Ankalaev is really small, I wouldn't make a bet for him.

I'm more interested to bet Darren Till and Bryce Mitchell since both of them have higher rank but they're an underdog.
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November 29, 2022, 12:26:07 PM
^  Wait...  There's a fine if a Russian flag is displayed by the fighter?  I know Russian flags were disallowed in F1 but I didn't notice it was also the same in the UFC or even football.

Anyway, next event is kinda decent.  Way better than the last Fight Night event for sure.  Lol.  And it's a nice filler before 282.  I don't mind a main event with Holland vs Thompson after the gap week.  I just wanna watch some UFC fights.  Wink

A couple of tapes to watch.  Enjoy.

UFC Free Fight:  Holland vs Buckley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT4UyVvObwQ

UFC Free Fight:  Thompson vs Luque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlNkPgUd0qg
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November 29, 2022, 10:27:35 AM

Now you are jumping conclusions and misreading what i meant. I wasn't talking anything about cancelling fights, you did that. And i merely mentioned the heat between those countries. But i'll explain myself:

As Thomas Mann said "Everything is politics." And obviously when things get heated enough, it affects to Fighters/players motivation. And when you think about professionalism, do you think that fights in other non combat sports let's say in ice hockey are staged, professional or in any way planned? No. Why it would be anything else in MMA? It doesn't matter how professional you plan to look like if you are frustrated enough, especially when you are getting beaten by them.

Well, we could say that there are some that have been planned, and there are some that do not, regardless of whether being political or not if the fighter doesn't have free will his fight would end up then it can be fixed but there is not a way we can know if the fight will include a political agenda or not if the backer of a certain fighter is a politician then certainly there could be a fixing that is happening, and certainly anything can be controlled with a certain amount of money they have,


Russian athletes participate in UFC right now with a small remark - I think they are not allowed (or at least asked) not to bring Russian flags during ring walk and decision announcement. Remember how they always put flags on their shoulders or back? Havent seen flags for a while. Maybe there are more politics involved in other MMA promotions, but, as UFC are a lot about money, they will never lose a chance to earn. UFC rooster is full of Russian fighters, Russian UFC fan base is huge. UFC will never turn back against such a sweet peace of pie.

Dana White doesn't really care at all if there is money involved he will certainly dive right into it, and not say a thing about it, there are certain ways political views would certainly change the way the fight goes, but for me as a viewer of some combat sports, you will not look at some fights that it will have a political agenda involve in it because if you do you will not enjoy certain things, at some point it surely happens to me I have questioned if UFC is legit or there will be a fixed that would go on with a certain fight if you would think about that you will certainly not enjoy watching a fight because of your suspicion you would certainly think that all are not legit or all will be just fixed for you, and you will not enjoy the essence of MMA


Russians or any other fighters can still wear thier flags when they are introduced in the cage but they are to shoulder the fine that UFC imposes on them. I wouldn't say the UFC decides this one alone but perhaps MMA organization wouldn't want to be in the political hot seat.

While anyone is proud to represent themselves for thier countrymen, the fine may just be too big. Russian names are obvious though. Doesn't need a flag for it.
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November 29, 2022, 08:46:57 AM

Now you are jumping conclusions and misreading what i meant. I wasn't talking anything about cancelling fights, you did that. And i merely mentioned the heat between those countries. But i'll explain myself:

As Thomas Mann said "Everything is politics." And obviously when things get heated enough, it affects to Fighters/players motivation. And when you think about professionalism, do you think that fights in other non combat sports let's say in ice hockey are staged, professional or in any way planned? No. Why it would be anything else in MMA? It doesn't matter how professional you plan to look like if you are frustrated enough, especially when you are getting beaten by them.

Well, we could say that there are some that have been planned, and there are some that do not, regardless of whether being political or not if the fighter doesn't have free will his fight would end up then it can be fixed but there is not a way we can know if the fight will include a political agenda or not if the backer of a certain fighter is a politician then certainly there could be a fixing that is happening, and certainly anything can be controlled with a certain amount of money they have,


Russian athletes participate in UFC right now with a small remark - I think they are not allowed (or at least asked) not to bring Russian flags during ring walk and decision announcement. Remember how they always put flags on their shoulders or back? Havent seen flags for a while. Maybe there are more politics involved in other MMA promotions, but, as UFC are a lot about money, they will never lose a chance to earn. UFC rooster is full of Russian fighters, Russian UFC fan base is huge. UFC will never turn back against such a sweet peace of pie.

Dana White doesn't really care at all if there is money involved he will certainly dive right into it, and not say a thing about it, there are certain ways political views would certainly change the way the fight goes, but for me as a viewer of some combat sports, you will not look at some fights that it will have a political agenda involve in it because if you do you will not enjoy certain things, at some point it surely happens to me I have questioned if UFC is legit or there will be a fixed that would go on with a certain fight if you would think about that you will certainly not enjoy watching a fight because of your suspicion you would certainly think that all are not legit or all will be just fixed for you, and you will not enjoy the essence of MMA
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November 29, 2022, 06:10:29 AM
He probably can, Błachowicz has more experience but that's because Błachowicz is an old man (39) compared to Ankalaev (30) and even if he have more fights behind him, percetually he has lost way more of them (Błachowicz around 31% while Ankalaev has lost under 6% of his).

I am still cheering for Błachowicz out of principle and as an underdog.

Then there's the fact that Ankalaev is from Russia and Błachowicz from Poland, because relations between those countries are politically heated to say the least, i am guessing that this is not going to be a friendly match.
I mean why you're trying to link between UFC and politic? if politic is really happen on UFC, any Russian fighter can't fight in UFC anymore since their country get blacklisted until the problem is already solved.

Sorry to butt in but there is actually politics happening in any sports division.  By saying politics, it isn't about politics as in politics that involved the country leaders' point of view.  It is politics within the UFC.  And that is also the reason why Russian athletes are still participating in UFC fights.

Russian athletes participate in UFC right now with a small remark - I think they are not allowed (or at least asked) not to bring Russian flags during ring walk and decision announcement. Remember how they always put flags on their shoulders or back? Havent seen flags for a while. Maybe there are more politics involved in other MMA promotions, but, as UFC are a lot about money, they will never lose a chance to earn. UFC rooster is full of Russian fighters, Russian UFC fan base is huge. UFC will never turn back against such a sweet peace of pie.
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November 28, 2022, 01:21:26 PM
He probably can, Błachowicz has more experience but that's because Błachowicz is an old man (39) compared to Ankalaev (30) and even if he have more fights behind him, percetually he has lost way more of them (Błachowicz around 31% while Ankalaev has lost under 6% of his).

I am still cheering for Błachowicz out of principle and as an underdog.

Then there's the fact that Ankalaev is from Russia and Błachowicz from Poland, because relations between those countries are politically heated to say the least, i am guessing that this is not going to be a friendly match.
I mean why you're trying to link between UFC and politic? if politic is really happen on UFC, any Russian fighter can't fight in UFC anymore since their country get blacklisted until the problem is already solved.

Sorry to butt in but there is actually politics happening in any sports division.  By saying politics, it isn't about politics as in politics that involved the country leaders' point of view.  It is politics within the UFC.  And that is also the reason why Russian athletes are still participating in UFC fights.

I don't think any fighter will going to be a friendly match no matter how big their friendship is, they will sorry after the match will end, but during match they will be professional and want to beat their opponent.

Just because they have a fight they will become enemies?  One of the reasons why friends that are matched in sports division become so interesting is because it caters a lot of attention to how they will behave during the fight.  A friendly match doesn't mean that they will not do their best, instead, they should do their best in respect of their friend as an opponent. That is also part of UFC politics.  Anything that is scheduled and fighting contracts meddled by the governing body of UFC is also considered politics.  As the politics meaning stated ...

Anyway it's sad to see Prochazka cancelled the fight, the odds for Ankalaev is really small, I wouldn't make a bet for him.

Nothing to do about it, Prochazka injured his shoulder so he needs to recuperate in order to fight again.  Sadly he had to  vacate the light heavyweight title and will be out for about a year. [1]



[1] https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mma/news/jiri-prochazka-injury-ufc-282-main-event-light-heavyweight/w59xn4vxrbkcedgk6n4f4h6l
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