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November 24, 2022, 11:01:32 AM

Yeah, don't get me wrong they're both already quite accomplished. However, Khabib was definitely accomplished before coming the UFC. He was the world champion, I think twice. He basically only has one loss as far as I know in a relatively long Sambo career.

That said, I've seen Usman tested, but I've never actually seen Khabib tested. It was almost like it was on easy mode. As soon as he decided to take it to the mat, it pretty much ended either with ground, and pound or via a submission moments later. Honestly, if I was to compare anyone it would be Chimaev, even though I'm not a massive fan of him personally due to his personality more than anything, at least the way he portrays himself.

Khabib also basically beat a in prime Conor on the feet. Then obviously, we all know what happened. However, Conor was losing that fight on the feet. You could say it was due to the threat of a takedown, but Khabib properly hurt Conor a few times before taking it to the mat.

I personally think Khabib is one of the best in all combat sports. Oman, nad Usman carry the name, and therefore have very big boots to fill. Maybe, they can do it who knows being so young.

I truly agree, when I am just starting with MMA I don't really know anything and any fighter in the UFC at all, and I really don't know UFC, but Khabib Nurmagomenodov was basically the 1st UFC fighter when I saw his highlights I was in total amazement because he was unique for me because of his ground scramble, grappling and his ground game was really unique as well, and so I end up excited whenever he fights inside the Octagon,

Well, you are right Conor McGregor was surely having difficulty in facing Khabib Nurmagomedov more than anything because of the ground threats basically he was not focused on his striking, and that is how Khabib was amazing more over,


Conclusion - bare knuckle fights are dangerous for your brain Cheesy Lobov was not the smartest guy in the world before, but his last fight in bare knuckle only proved that. He went out against Denys Berinchyk, undefeated professional boxer, Olympic games and Worlds champ silver medallist Grin That is such a big LOL, what a guy with t-rex hands can do against one of the best boxers of that time. And now that proper 12 co-ownership announcement Cheesy What can I say, good luck Artem proving that Cheesy

Yes, If he can get some proof he can process it with legalities that he co-owns McGregors business but I think Conor will surely file a counter for this, and surely if proven that he really has legal co-ownership then he may take it, but I highly doubt,

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November 24, 2022, 09:43:21 AM
All good fighters, but aren't on the level of Khabib. That might change with experience, but Khabib was a special fighter, not just in the UFC he has quite the background in Sambo, and I believe was also undefeated in that also off the top of my head.
Many people ignored Khabib for long time and he had to fight with everyone in his division to get a chance for championship title fight.




So true.  Most of the hardcore fans had an idea of what Khabib was capable of but he didn't have the panache so they never really thought much of him.  During that time when he was supposed to fight Tony Ferguson, a lot of the realest fans were on the Ferguson side...  Including me.  Lmao.  But peak Ferguson vs Khabib would've still been a good match up at the time imho.  But in hindsight, Khabib def would've looked like a 1.30 favorite.  Lol.  And that's being generous.

Anyway, it sucks that we don't have an event this weekend.  Sad 
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November 24, 2022, 07:45:11 AM
the anti climax is that Artem Lobov is suing Conor McGregor claiming that he needs to pay him millions because he claims was a co owner in his proper 12 whiskey Cheesy.

Conclusion - bare knuckle fights are dangerous for your brain Cheesy Lobov was not the smartest guy in the world before, but his last fight in bare knuckle only proved that. He went out against Denys Berinchyk, undefeated professional boxer, Olympic games and Worlds champ silver medallist Grin That is such a big LOL, what a guy with t-rex hands can do against one of the best boxers of that time. And now that proper 12 co-ownership announcement Cheesy What can I say, good luck Artem proving that Cheesy
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November 24, 2022, 06:49:26 AM
Many people ignored Khabib for long time and he had to fight with everyone in his division to get a chance for championship title fight.
It's the same thing with his cousins now, but I think Omar can easily become champion in UFC Bantamweight division, and Usman Nurmagomedov is already champion in Bellator Lightweight division.
Results speak for themselves.
Khabib is now 34 years old and he is retired, Umar is 26 and Usman is 24, so they both have bright future in MMA sports.
Yeah, don't get me wrong they're both already quite accomplished. However, Khabib was definitely accomplished before coming the UFC. He was the world champion, I think twice. He basically only has one loss as far as I know in a relatively long Sambo career.

That said, I've seen Usman tested, but I've never actually seen Khabib tested. It was almost like it was on easy mode. As soon as he decided to take it to the mat, it pretty much ended either with ground, and pound or via a submission moments later. Honestly, if I was to compare anyone it would be Chimaev, even though I'm not a massive fan of him personally due to his personality more than anything, at least the way he portrays himself.

Khabib also basically beat a in prime Conor on the feet. Then obviously, we all know what happened. However, Conor was losing that fight on the feet. You could say it was due to the threat of a takedown, but Khabib properly hurt Conor a few times before taking it to the mat.

I personally think Khabib is one of the best in all combat sports. Oman, nad Usman carry the name, and therefore have very big boots to fill. Maybe, they can do it who knows being so young.
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November 23, 2022, 09:37:50 PM
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It could be some old grudge. but I really don't know know what happen back then they can be very fatal in what they do Conor McGregor crashing Khabib's bus, and Khabib going outside the octagon to go bust some of McGregor's minions
Since you touched this topic, the incident happened because Artem Lobov was cornered by Khabib because he was talking shit about him in an interview he gave to a Russian channel and the anti climax is that Artem Lobov is suing Conor McGregor claiming that he needs to pay him millions because he claims was a co owner in his proper 12 whiskey Cheesy.


Yup! I have seen the news, about Artem Lobov trying to sue Conor McGregor in The Irish Independent, and because of this news I think I want to see a Conor McGregor VS Artem Lobov, but I don't know about Lobov if he's still going to fight because he already stopped since 2018 in the UFC and 2021 on the Bare-knuckle fights, but still friendship turned frienemies,


If that's the case, I'm really hoping it's Francis Ngannou. I don't fancy seeing Bladyes getting knocked out, as I just don't think he could beat Jones. That's assuming that Jones is still at his best. He's at a decent amount of time off, and he isn't getting any younger. Although, he's just got such raw talent that I just don't think Curtis would fare well.

Gane could work. Although, I just feel Jones takes him down, and beats him. I wasn't impressed with his wrestling against a compromised Francis Ngannou. Francis probably does get beat honestly. However, he's got that power to worry Jones enough. Jon is just so quick, and throws up a lot of problems I'm not confident of many guys going against him.

I'd love to see Curtis knock him out if it did mean those two fighting.

Right now I am curious if Jon Jones can maneuver his moves in the heavyweight division I really want to see it 1st if he can have the firepower to be a threat to Francis Ngannou the champion, in what he has shown from his recent fight against Ciryl Gane that has a fight IQ, speed and flexibility moving like a light heavyweight, has done by Francis Ngannou with just showing his takedown prowess, I think Jon Jones is not yet ready for him, well this is just my opinion, but 1st let's see what Jon Jones can do with the likes of Stipe Miocic, Curtis Blaydes, or even Tai Tuivasa for me, 
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November 23, 2022, 06:53:41 PM
All good fighters, but aren't on the level of Khabib. That might change with experience, but Khabib was a special fighter, not just in the UFC he has quite the background in Sambo, and I believe was also undefeated in that also off the top of my head.
Many people ignored Khabib for long time and he had to fight with everyone in his division to get a chance for championship title fight.
It's the same thing with his cousins now, but I think Omar can easily become champion in UFC Bantamweight division, and Usman Nurmagomedov is already champion in Bellator Lightweight division.
Results speak for themselves.
Khabib is now 34 years old and he is retired, Umar is 26 and Usman is 24, so they both have bright future in MMA sports.
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November 23, 2022, 05:43:56 PM
Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.
Conor seems to be gearing up towards a fight, and he did suffer a pretty nasty break. I expect we will see him, but hopefully it'll be someone outside the top five, and a striker as you say. He's still exciting, and tagged Poirier multiple times in both fights, and hurt Poirier. So, he's still dangerous he just hasn't got that same fear factor that he once did.

Not sure what the angle is with Khabib's little dig towards Conor. Also, thought Conor's response was a little deluded, and a bit nasty talking about his father's dream considering what happened.

Looking at how big Connor (bulking up) is nowadays, I wonder which division he will be fighting next. As big as his name, I don't think Connor will drain himself down to lightweight again. I doubt an inactive Connor can beat any welterweights ranked 6 to 10.

Michael Chandler keeps calling out Connor up to now despite losing his last fight. Maybe Dana White can arrange a welterweight match-up between the 2. It's still a big fight and a winnable fight for Connor as well if he trains early and hard. The weight can probably make this fight 50/50 or so.

I think Connor is indeed gearing up towards a fight and obviously it won’t be with Khabib who is retired and likely not in top tier fighting shape. For me though there’s the question of when Connor will actually fight again. He hasn’t been getting drug tested which is why he’s filming for a movie and looking like Rambo. I think when he does finally announce a fight, he’ll probably have to do it 6 months out and get on a drug testing program.
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November 23, 2022, 05:06:14 PM
It is official Jon Jones is coming back for UFC 285 on March 5. The opponent is most probably Francis Ngannou and if he is not available then there will be an interim belt with either Ciryl Gane or Curtis Blaydes.
If that's the case, I'm really hoping it's Francis Ngannou. I don't fancy seeing Bladyes getting knocked out, as I just don't think he could beat Jones. That's assuming that Jones is still at his best. He's at a decent amount of time off, and he isn't getting any younger. Although, he's just got such raw talent that I just don't think Curtis would fare well.

Gane could work. Although, I just feel Jones takes him down, and beats him. I wasn't impressed with his wrestling against a compromised Francis Ngannou. Francis probably does get beat honestly. However, he's got that power to worry Jones enough. Jon is just so quick, and throws up a lot of problems I'm not confident of many guys going against him.

I'd love to see Curtis knock him out if it did mean those two fighting.
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November 23, 2022, 02:33:12 PM
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It could be some old grudge. but I really don't know know what happen back then they can be very fatal in what they do Conor McGregor crashing Khabib's bus, and Khabib going outside the octagon to go bust some of McGregor's minions
Since you touched this topic, the incident happened because Artem Lobov was cornered by Khabib because he was talking shit about him in an interview he gave to a Russian channel and the anti climax is that Artem Lobov is suing Conor McGregor claiming that he needs to pay him millions because he claims was a co owner in his proper 12 whiskey Cheesy.

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All good fighters, but aren't on the level of Khabib. That might change with experience, but Khabib was a special fighter, not just in the UFC he has quite the background in Sambo, and I believe was also undefeated in that also off the top of my head.

I'm not looking for a next Khabib though, he's a outlier you don't get many undefeated fighters that dominate in such a way. Jon Jones would be the other which I'm hearing rumours of him having a fight in the new year. Has to be Ngannou for me, but I know he had surgery on his knees, so not sure if he'll be ready.
Andrew Tate said it best, you cannot defeat someone like Khabib who trains allah trains allah trains allah kind of person Cheesy. Referring to his dedication of just training and prayers and no other distraction.

It is official Jon Jones is coming back for UFC 285 on March 5. The opponent is most probably Francis Ngannou and if he is not available then there will be an interim belt with either Ciryl Gane or Curtis Blaydes.
After I started martial arts, I started to follow UFC for about 2 seasons. I've watched a few old Jon Jones fights, this guy fights really smooth, was he always heavyweight?

I also know that he banned from the UFC because of doping steroids, if that's not true, can you tell me why you left because he's younger.

As for the fight on March 5, I saw on social media that they were posterizing the three most troublesome heavyweight names alongside Jon Jones today. I think he can easily beat Curtis Blaydes. But it's very difficult with Francis and Gane. If he starts with Blaydes and beats him, he will have made a great comeback.
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November 23, 2022, 02:02:48 PM
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It could be some old grudge. but I really don't know know what happen back then they can be very fatal in what they do Conor McGregor crashing Khabib's bus, and Khabib going outside the octagon to go bust some of McGregor's minions
Since you touched this topic, the incident happened because Artem Lobov was cornered by Khabib because he was talking shit about him in an interview he gave to a Russian channel and the anti climax is that Artem Lobov is suing Conor McGregor claiming that he needs to pay him millions because he claims was a co owner in his proper 12 whiskey Cheesy.

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All good fighters, but aren't on the level of Khabib. That might change with experience, but Khabib was a special fighter, not just in the UFC he has quite the background in Sambo, and I believe was also undefeated in that also off the top of my head.

I'm not looking for a next Khabib though, he's a outlier you don't get many undefeated fighters that dominate in such a way. Jon Jones would be the other which I'm hearing rumours of him having a fight in the new year. Has to be Ngannou for me, but I know he had surgery on his knees, so not sure if he'll be ready.
Andrew Tate said it best, you cannot defeat someone like Khabib who trains allah trains allah trains allah kind of person Cheesy. Referring to his dedication of just training and prayers and no other distraction.

It is official Jon Jones is coming back for UFC 285 on March 5. The opponent is most probably Francis Ngannou and if he is not available then there will be an interim belt with either Ciryl Gane or Curtis Blaydes.
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November 23, 2022, 12:13:16 PM
I wondered why it was rather quiet in here, and now the talk about Conor, and Khabib makes sense Tongue. No event this weekend, which now I've got to figure out what I'm going to do, as I wasn't anticipating it. I was watching some tape on some of the fighters too in anticipation. I guess I'll have to wait a week to get my predictions out Tongue.

I know there's some boxing going on, and some other non UFC MMA events so I'll probably try to tune in on some of them. The main event is a wild one for next week though, I'm a little scared for Wonderboy I don't want to see him get knocked out. He's one of my favourite fighters.
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November 23, 2022, 11:38:13 AM
Rafael dos Anjos  vs.  Bryan Barberena 170 lbs

That is strange fight imho. RDA is a lightweight, currently on top7 position. Bryan Barberena is a welterweight and is unranked. I dont understand RDA future plans. This is not the first time he RDA jumping from one division to another. Getting a higher position in top of lightweight is harder (Dariush only looks less stronger than others, but he is a series of wins, he is probably a next challenger for a title fight) than in welterweight, so RDA decided to fight in welterweight, and if he looses, he wont loose positions in top (as he is not in top15 of welterweight).

Such a simple strategy to look better than really is. For real, why RDA is top7 in lightweight with such a record? His record looks more like a zebra (win-lose-win-lose-win...)

Dos Anjos fought in 170 more than 5 times after having two straight losses at 155.  He then moved down to 155 but then looks like he's moving back up again after losing to Rafael Fiziev.  As for his future plans, there's none.  He's prolly fighting to finish off his contract before retiring from the UFC.  He's almost 40 years old and he prolly wants to fight in 170 so he wouldn't have to go through a gruelling weight cut.

I think he wins vs Barbarena in a three rounder but he's now susceptible of getting KO'd after Fiziev.

I dont think that RDA is planning to retire. He has fought big names. No matter of the fights results, people remember him, so I think he will stay in UFC. Or better say UFC will keep him to sell tickets. He would be sort of a gate keeper. He will be like Clay Guida, that fights in prelims. No matter that he has a bad record and usually losses than wins, no matter that he is 40, UFC keep him for ages.

Maybe he's not retiring per se but I don't think he'll be given another contract by the UFC once his current deal runs out.  That explains the move up to 170 and weird match up vs Barbarena.  He's just prolly taking the first available offer given to him and get it over with.

Anyway, here's a match to remind everybody what happened between these two and why there's a rematch.  Smiley  If Teixeira didn't get tired, he would've def won the match and be one of the oldest guys to win a belt in the UFC.  I was rooting for Prochazka and had him in my parlays but would've been also happy if Teixeira won. Would've loved to see it.

UFC Free Fight:  Prochazka vs Teixeira 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyiSk3rxvY4
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November 23, 2022, 11:35:28 AM
Don't worry about Khabib, if he won't fight there are his cousins and brothers that have same perfect score like him, and they can soon come to UFC to fight Wink
I saw someone posted this image on internet and I think this speaks much better than me explaining how fighting is in their blood.
All good fighters, but aren't on the level of Khabib. That might change with experience, but Khabib was a special fighter, not just in the UFC he has quite the background in Sambo, and I believe was also undefeated in that also off the top of my head.

I'm not looking for a next Khabib though, he's a outlier you don't get many undefeated fighters that dominate in such a way. Jon Jones would be the other which I'm hearing rumours of him having a fight in the new year. Has to be Ngannou for me, but I know he had surgery on his knees, so not sure if he'll be ready.
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November 23, 2022, 08:03:18 AM
Rafael dos Anjos  vs.  Bryan Barberena 170 lbs

That is strange fight imho. RDA is a lightweight, currently on top7 position. Bryan Barberena is a welterweight and is unranked. I dont understand RDA future plans. This is not the first time he RDA jumping from one division to another. Getting a higher position in top of lightweight is harder (Dariush only looks less stronger than others, but he is a series of wins, he is probably a next challenger for a title fight) than in welterweight, so RDA decided to fight in welterweight, and if he looses, he wont loose positions in top (as he is not in top15 of welterweight).

Such a simple strategy to look better than really is. For real, why RDA is top7 in lightweight with such a record? His record looks more like a zebra (win-lose-win-lose-win...)

Dos Anjos fought in 170 more than 5 times after having two straight losses at 155.  He then moved down to 155 but then looks like he's moving back up again after losing to Rafael Fiziev.  As for his future plans, there's none.  He's prolly fighting to finish off his contract before retiring from the UFC.  He's almost 40 years old and he prolly wants to fight in 170 so he wouldn't have to go through a gruelling weight cut.

I think he wins vs Barbarena in a three rounder but he's now susceptible of getting KO'd after Fiziev.

I dont think that RDA is planning to retire. He has fought big names. No matter of the fights results, people remember him, so I think he will stay in UFC. Or better say UFC will keep him to sell tickets. He would be sort of a gate keeper. He will be like Clay Guida, that fights in prelims. No matter that he has a bad record and usually losses than wins, no matter that he is 40, UFC keep him for ages.
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November 23, 2022, 12:23:59 AM
Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.

What if Conor McGregor trained his grappling? that would be interesting, or he taught to harden his takedown defense, that would be awesome to watch, but I highly doubt Khabib Nurmagomenodov would care at all, just like what Islam Makhachev has shown the strength to his grappling then what ever his opponent would trained when it comes to wrestling and grappling when it is near the fence Nurmagomenodov would surely prevail,


Conor seems to be gearing up towards a fight, and he did suffer a pretty nasty break. I expect we will see him, but hopefully it'll be someone outside the top five, and a striker as you say. He's still exciting, and tagged Poirier multiple times in both fights, and hurt Poirier. So, he's still dangerous he just hasn't got that same fear factor that he once did.

Not sure what the angle is with Khabib's little dig towards Conor. Also, thought Conor's response was a little deluded, and a bit nasty talking about his father's dream considering what happened.

It could be some old grudge. but I really don't know know what happen back then they can be very fatal in what they do Conor McGregor crashing Khabib's bus, and Khabib going outside the octagon to go bust some of McGregor's minions, in his way, surely they can go at it again, but in what Conor has said over this matter, I really think Khabib Nurmagomedov will not answer it with seriousness because he already knew that he already beaten the Irish man after all,

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November 22, 2022, 07:37:38 PM
I think if Connor vs Khabib actually ends up happening, it is going to break all the records of pay-per-view, right?
Probably, and I'm sure the UFC would be up for it, and have probably already had talks about it. Khabib seems a man of morals though, he's pretty dead set on keeping his promise to his mother's after his father's death. So, I don't expect it to happen for that reason.
Don't worry about Khabib, if he won't fight there are his cousins and brothers that have same perfect score like him, and they can soon come to UFC to fight Wink
I saw someone posted this image on internet and I think this speaks much better than me explaining how fighting is in their blood.



Everyone just jump in when they saw thier brother have had success in UFC. The one that's almost like a joke, it could have been made up but the video of Khabib wrestling with a bear is like Russians are training for UFC on a daily basis.

There is always the anticipation to learn who can beat Khabib though which is why there is always an expectation of when is he going to make a comeback fight.
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November 22, 2022, 06:50:52 PM
I think if Connor vs Khabib actually ends up happening, it is going to break all the records of pay-per-view, right?
Probably, and I'm sure the UFC would be up for it, and have probably already had talks about it. Khabib seems a man of morals though, he's pretty dead set on keeping his promise to his mother's after his father's death. So, I don't expect it to happen for that reason.
Don't worry about Khabib, if he won't fight there are his cousins and brothers that have same perfect score like him, and they can soon come to UFC to fight Wink
I saw someone posted this image on internet and I think this speaks much better than me explaining how fighting is in their blood.

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November 22, 2022, 02:41:46 PM
I think if Connor vs Khabib actually ends up happening, it is going to break all the records of pay-per-view, right?
Probably, and I'm sure the UFC would be up for it, and have probably already had talks about it. Khabib seems a man of morals though, he's pretty dead set on keeping his promise to his mother's after his father's death. So, I don't expect it to happen for that reason.

It's certainly not about money for Khabib, and I'm not sure what could convince him. Maybe, his mother giving him permission, but I can't see that happening any time soon.
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November 22, 2022, 02:38:23 PM
I don't know, I really don't think this fight is actually going to happen. I have heard that Khabib said if Connor can beat Islam Makhachev, he will fight Conor McGregor. But let's be honest here. Recently Connor has put on some serious weight. And after retirement Khabib has also put on weight. And I don't think the fight is likely to happen unless it's a 145-pound weight fight. And it is going to be really challenging for both of them to cut weight. Even if they decide to move ahead with it, it will be a serious weight cut. It is deemed too risky for the health of both of them.

And another thing is that Connor is actually not a proficient fighter anymore. He has just emerged as a keyboard warrior taking on people on Twitter.
Aw, I didn't mean that to sound like it was going to be a Conor vs Khabib fight I think that boat has sailed a very long time ago. However, I do think Conor is gearing towards a fight. I'm not sure who that is going to be against, and I certainly hope it wouldn't be Islam that just doesn't make much sense, like I said I hope it's someone outside the top five, and hopefully not a wrestler. I want to see Conor win again, it'll be great for the sport, and the division.

I think if Connor vs Khabib actually ends up happening, it is going to break all the records of pay-per-view, right?

But I also don't think it is actually going to happen, as much as I want this to happen. Yes, it will take a long time for both of them to get into fighting shape. Both of them are way above 145 pounds right now. And I don't think Khabib is coming back out of retirement if there is not anything achievable for Khabib. He is obviously not going to do this for money. unless obviously, they give him 100 million or more than that. But I will also say that the chances of this fight happening is not null either.
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November 22, 2022, 02:35:44 PM
I don't know, I really don't think this fight is actually going to happen. I have heard that Khabib said if Connor can beat Islam Makhachev, he will fight Conor McGregor. But let's be honest here. Recently Connor has put on some serious weight. And after retirement Khabib has also put on weight. And I don't think the fight is likely to happen unless it's a 145-pound weight fight. And it is going to be really challenging for both of them to cut weight. Even if they decide to move ahead with it, it will be a serious weight cut. It is deemed too risky for the health of both of them.

And another thing is that Connor is actually not a proficient fighter anymore. He has just emerged as a keyboard warrior taking on people on Twitter.
Aw, I didn't mean that to sound like it was going to be a Conor vs Khabib fight I think that boat has sailed a very long time ago. However, I do think Conor is gearing towards a fight. I'm not sure who that is going to be against, and I certainly hope it wouldn't be Islam that just doesn't make much sense, like I said I hope it's someone outside the top five, and hopefully not a wrestler. I want to see Conor win again, it'll be great for the sport, and the division.
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