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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 22, 2022, 05:52:09 AM

Quote from: Apocollapse on November 21, 2022, 04:35:28 AM

Rafael dos Anjos vs. Bryan Barberena 170 lbs

That is strange fight imho. RDA is a lightweight, currently on top7 position. Bryan Barberena is a welterweight and is unranked. I dont understand RDA future plans. This is not the first time he RDA jumping from one division to another. Getting a higher position in top of lightweight is harder (Dariush only looks less stronger than others, but he is a series of wins, he is probably a next challenger for a title fight) than in welterweight, so RDA decided to fight in welterweight, and if he looses, he wont loose positions in top (as he is not in top15 of welterweight).

Such a simple strategy to look better than really is. For real, why RDA is top7 in lightweight with such a record? His record looks more like a zebra (win-lose-win-lose-win...)

Dos Anjos fought in 170 more than 5 times after having two straight losses at 155. He then moved down to 155 but then looks like he's moving back up again after losing to Rafael Fiziev. As for his future plans, there's none. He's prolly fighting to finish off his contract before retiring from the UFC. He's almost 40 years old and he prolly wants to fight in 170 so he wouldn't have to go through a gruelling weight cut.

I think he wins vs Barbarena in a three rounder but he's now susceptible of getting KO'd after Fiziev.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 21, 2022, 06:38:42 PM

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Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.

Conor seems to be gearing up towards a fight, and he did suffer a pretty nasty break. I expect we will see him, but hopefully it'll be someone outside the top five, and a striker as you say. He's still exciting, and tagged Poirier multiple times in both fights, and hurt Poirier. So, he's still dangerous he just hasn't got that same fear factor that he once did.

Not sure what the angle is with Khabib's little dig towards Conor. Also, thought Conor's response was a little deluded, and a bit nasty talking about his father's dream considering what happened.

I don't know, I really don't think this fight is actually going to happen. I have heard that Khabib said if Connor can beat Islam Makhachev, he will fight Conor McGregor. But let's be honest here. Recently Connor has put on some serious weight. And after retirement Khabib has also put on weight. And I don't think the fight is likely to happen unless it's a 145-pound weight fight. And it is going to be really challenging for both of them to cut weight. Even if they decide to move ahead with it, it will be a serious weight cut. It is deemed too risky for the health of both of them.

And another thing is that Connor is actually not a proficient fighter anymore. He has just emerged as a keyboard warrior taking on people on Twitter.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on November 21, 2022, 04:35:28 AM

Rafael dos Anjos vs. Bryan Barberena 170 lbs

That is strange fight imho. RDA is a lightweight, currently on top7 position. Bryan Barberena is a welterweight and is unranked. I dont understand RDA future plans. This is not the first time he RDA jumping from one division to another. Getting a higher position in top of lightweight is harder (Dariush only looks less stronger than others, but he is a series of wins, he is probably a next challenger for a title fight) than in welterweight, so RDA decided to fight in welterweight, and if he looses, he wont loose positions in top (as he is not in top15 of welterweight).

Such a simple strategy to look better than really is. For real, why RDA is top7 in lightweight with such a record? His record looks more like a zebra (win-lose-win-lose-win...)

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Quote from: Welsh on November 21, 2022, 06:38:42 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2022, 01:56:17 PM

Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.

Conor seems to be gearing up towards a fight, and he did suffer a pretty nasty break. I expect we will see him, but hopefully it'll be someone outside the top five, and a striker as you say. He's still exciting, and tagged Poirier multiple times in both fights, and hurt Poirier. So, he's still dangerous he just hasn't got that same fear factor that he once did.

Not sure what the angle is with Khabib's little dig towards Conor. Also, thought Conor's response was a little deluded, and a bit nasty talking about his father's dream considering what happened.

Looking at how big Connor (bulking up) is nowadays, I wonder which division he will be fighting next. As big as his name, I don't think Connor will drain himself down to lightweight again. I doubt an inactive Connor can beat any welterweights ranked 6 to 10.

Michael Chandler keeps calling out Connor up to now despite losing his last fight. Maybe Dana White can arrange a welterweight match-up between the 2. It's still a big fight and a winnable fight for Connor as well if he trains early and hard. The weight can probably make this fight 50/50 or so.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 21, 2022, 01:56:17 PM

Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.

Conor seems to be gearing up towards a fight, and he did suffer a pretty nasty break. I expect we will see him, but hopefully it'll be someone outside the top five, and a striker as you say. He's still exciting, and tagged Poirier multiple times in both fights, and hurt Poirier. So, he's still dangerous he just hasn't got that same fear factor that he once did.

Not sure what the angle is with Khabib's little dig towards Conor. Also, thought Conor's response was a little deluded, and a bit nasty talking about his father's dream considering what happened.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 12:08:39 PM

You just lose that excitement factor of betting on live events, and watching them. Unless, you don't check your bets or the news before watching the fights? Although, it's always nice to look at your betting slip, and see a few ticks, and it not being complete yet as that does get the excitement levels up.

It's true, I love betting on live events but I can't finds this available on Sportsbet for UFC fights, and I stopped using some other casinos that confiscated my coins.
There is always some delay if you are watching score online, so you know if something happens before you see it in live stream

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Connor McGregor calling out Khabib over Khabib taking shots at him was something I didn’t really expect, but Connor wants to make it seem like Khabib retired to not have to fight him again. I’d personally love to see them run it back again, but I’d rather see McGregor fight a striker than a grappler. I want to see another one of those knockout punches not more tapping. I really hope we get to see McGregor in the octagon again in the next 8 months.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 21, 2022, 07:10:17 AM

Did anyone find the information what has really happened to Derrick Lewis ? The fighters runs a camp, makes weight, goes to staredowns, shake hands, smiles, and boom, suddenly get ill. Hard to believe. Because usually after all the pre-fight procedures, fighters dont to wild or freak out. Most of them spend time in lobby or in their rooms, preparing mentally for the fight. I suppose Derrick ate something and got poisoned. The docs could have helped him to clean his stomach, but that totally made him ran out of strengths.

They didn't put any information about whatever happened to him. Food-related, stomach cramps, or maybe the water.

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Instead, cageside announcer Brendan Fitzgerald interrupted the prelims to announce that the main event was canceled due to a "non-COVID, non-weight cutting illness on the Derrick Lewis side." After Saturday's card ended, UFC chief doctor Jeff Davidson told Yahoo Sports’ Kevin Iole that Lewis had went to the ER with "stomach issues," but was later cleared

https://sports.yahoo.com/ufc-vegas-65-main-event-canceled-due-to-derrick-lewis-illness-221839369.html
"Was later cleared?" So poisoning is out.
It was not that bad if he didn't take time in the hospital. It's hard to guess what had happened to him and no one seems to leak out detailed information about what he felt that night.
I only have two guesses and it's a very low percentage to happen in a fighter. The feeling of being either too excited or too scared. Butterflies in your stomach start to build up at that moment. Cheesy

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Quote from: Apocollapse on November 21, 2022, 04:35:28 AM

Very disappointed to see the previous UFC fight night main event got cancelled, however the next UFC event is also fight night and it will happen on December 4 or next 2 weeks. I think the next main event would be more interesting since Thompson vs Holland is 50/50, much harder to predict. The other match is also interesting to watch: Barberena vs Dos Anjos, Nicolau vs Schnell and Tuivasa vs Pavlovich.

UFC Fight Night Quick Card:

Date: December 3, Saturday
Main Card: 9pm ET
Preliminary Card: 7pm ET
Venue: Amway Center, Orlando, Florida

Main Card
Stephen Thompson vs. Kevin Holland 170 lbs
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Bryan Barberena 170 lbs
Matheus Nicolau vs. Matt Schnell 125 lbs
Tai Tuivasa vs. Sergei Pavlovich 265 lbs
Derek Brunson vs. Jack Hermansson 185 lbs
Eryk Anders vs. Kyle Daukaus 185 lbs

Preliminary Card
Niko Price vs. Philip Rowe 170 lbs
Angela Hill vs. Emily Ducote 115 lbs
Clay Guida vs. Scott Holtzman 155 lbs
Michael Johnson vs. Marc Diakiese 155 lbs
Darren Elkins vs. Jonathan Pearce 145 lbs
Tracy Cortez vs. Amanda Ribas 125 lbs
Natan Levy vs. Genaro Valdéz 155 lbs
Francis Marshall vs. Marcelo Rojo 145 lbs
Yazmin Jauregui vs. Istela Nunes 115 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/91801-ufc-fight-night

^ Added a little more info there. I hope you don't mind...

Anyway, that's a decent event for just Fight Night. Make the main event a championship event and it could pass for a PPV event imho... At first glance, it's a parlayable event with the favorites looking like their opponents won't give them any surprises. Except maybe for a couple or so of them. Brunson could surprise Hermansson, so will Schnell and Michael Johnson. And prolly even Guida..? :/

And the books have Thompson vs Holland as a coin flip. I think Thompson is washed and Holland might look like more than a 1.50 favorite.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 12:08:39 PM

I played the UFC 4 game the other day. Pretty fun I must say. I feel like they could do a lot more with it, but it's pretty fun for a few hours. I wouldn't play it any longer than that. See, this is my expert betting advice now, if you are ever in doubt, jump on the game, and get the AI to play both fighters, which effectively simulates the fight for you Wink

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 20, 2022, 09:25:20 AM

I started doing something like that for late night fights, and I only stay up when very interesting events are happening like Adesanya vs Pereira for example.

You just lose that excitement factor of betting on live events, and watching them. Unless, you don't check your bets or the news before watching the fights? Although, it's always nice to look at your betting slip, and see a few ticks, and it not being complete yet as that does get the excitement levels up.

I might consider it for nights like last night for example or events that I haven't bet on. No way will I be doing it for the bigger events.

I didn't realize that there is a UFC game and it was on X-Box and PS4, but you surely have given me an idea on this you can surely put the AI fight at one another, then make a bet on it with your friends, but surely it would limit the games AI in just throwing random strikes and maybe there will be no technical AI in here I was just speculating if there isn't but we will try it once I have downloaded the game,

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 05:17:36 AM

Probably one of the more disappointing fight nights in recent memory. Obviously, with the main event getting cancelled, but also some of the fights were rather disappointing. I know it happens from time to time, I'm just grateful I didn't need to stay up late. I think it was done by 11pm or somewhere around there. I remember staying up for the Poirer vs Conor fight, and obviously he snapped his leg, and I was absolutely gutted, and tired which made it worse. At least this time I had a good night sleep.

Watch the main event the next day, is that I do for a while. I have to get up in the morning for work and besides that I have a lot to do and if I'm waiting for the main event, then the next day I feel like a squeezed lemon. Grin

Yes, it was not the most interesting evening, but sometimes it happens.

It is really frustrating to simply have the main event scrapped like that and just like you have said it really happens Derrick Lewis has an illness and knowing him I think he wants to continue on with the fight but surely his corner hasn't approved it and notice something so they have to make a decision to not be going with the event and instead go to the hospital for Lewis to be treated, yes it was a bummer having the Main-Event Scrapped like that but this is for the fighter's health aswell and I surely don't blame them in doing something like this, but they should have seen it sooner for fans to not be frustrated like this,

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Did anyone find the information what has really happened to Derrick Lewis ? The fighters runs a camp, makes weight, goes to staredowns, shake hands, smiles, and boom, suddenly get ill. Hard to believe. Because usually after all the pre-fight procedures, fighters dont to wild or freak out. Most of them spend time in lobby or in their rooms, preparing mentally for the fight. I suppose Derrick ate something and got poisoned. The docs could have helped him to clean his stomach, but that totally made him ran out of strengths.

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Very disappointed to see the previous UFC fight night main event got cancelled, however the next UFC event is also fight night and it will happen on December 4 or next 2 weeks. I think the next main event would be more interesting since Thompson vs Holland is 50/50, much harder to predict. The other match is also interesting to watch: Barberena vs Dos Anjos, Nicolau vs Schnell and Tuivasa vs Pavlovich.

UFC Fight Night Quick Card:

Stephen Thompson vs. Kevin Holland 170 lbs
Rafael dos Anjos vs. Bryan Barberena 170 lbs
Matheus Nicolau vs. Matt Schnell 125 lbs
Tai Tuivasa vs. Sergei Pavlovich 265 lbs
Derek Brunson vs. Jack Hermansson 185 lbs
Eryk Anders vs. Kyle Daukaus 185 lbs
Niko Price vs. Philip Rowe 170 lbs
Angela Hill vs. Emily Ducote 115 lbs
Clay Guida vs. Scott Holtzman 155 lbs
Michael Johnson vs. Marc Diakiese 155 lbs
Darren Elkins vs. Jonathan Pearce 145 lbs
Tracy Cortez vs. Amanda Ribas 125 lbs
Natan Levy vs. Genaro Valdéz 155 lbs
Francis Marshall vs. Marcelo Rojo 145 lbs
Yazmin Jauregui vs. Istela Nunes 115 lbs

Source: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/91801-ufc-fight-night

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 05:17:36 AM

Probably one of the more disappointing fight nights in recent memory. Obviously, with the main event getting cancelled, but also some of the fights were rather disappointing. I know it happens from time to time, I'm just grateful I didn't need to stay up late. I think it was done by 11pm or somewhere around there. I remember staying up for the Poirer vs Conor fight, and obviously he snapped his leg, and I was absolutely gutted, and tired which made it worse. At least this time I had a good night sleep.

Watch the main event the next day, is that I do for a while. I have to get up in the morning for work and besides that I have a lot to do and if I'm waiting for the main event, then the next day I feel like a squeezed lemon. Grin

Yes, it was not the most interesting evening, but sometimes it happens.

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It was a heartbreaker when I realized that the Main event was scraped we didn't get a glimpse of the fighter at the last minute of the fight they needed to canceled it,

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Derrick Lewis + 180
Serghei Spivak -200

The main event was canceled due to Lewis having illness, it was a total frustration,

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Ion Cutelaba +145
Kennedy Nzechukwu - 170

They really think that Cutelaba would win this on the 1st round because Cutelaba on the 1st round has a great takedown, but when Cutelaba was seen getting ready for the takedown again and so Nzechukwu send him a flying knee directly to his face that stumble Cutelaba then Kennedy chase Cutelaba with barage of punches that makes Nzechukwu win the fight,

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Muslim Salikhov -110
Andre Fialho -110

At 1st Fialho really is exchanging and trading punches to Salikhov but when time progress to spinning kicks and an arsenal of kicks for Salikhov was proven deadly, well Salikhov on the latest round was now controlling and dominating the rounds with kicks and takedowns,

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I played the UFC 4 game the other day. Pretty fun I must say. I feel like they could do a lot more with it, but it's pretty fun for a few hours. I wouldn't play it any longer than that. See, this is my expert betting advice now, if you are ever in doubt, jump on the game, and get the AI to play both fighters, which effectively simulates the fight for you Wink

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 20, 2022, 09:25:20 AM

I started doing something like that for late night fights, and I only stay up when very interesting events are happening like Adesanya vs Pereira for example.

You just lose that excitement factor of betting on live events, and watching them. Unless, you don't check your bets or the news before watching the fights? Although, it's always nice to look at your betting slip, and see a few ticks, and it not being complete yet as that does get the excitement levels up.

I might consider it for nights like last night for example or events that I haven't bet on. No way will I be doing it for the bigger events.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 20, 2022, 09:25:20 AM

Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 05:17:36 AM

I think I've got to start recording the fights, and like watch them on Sunday morning when they aren't the bigger events.

I started doing something like that for late night fights, and I only stay up when very interesting events are happening like Adesanya vs Pereira for example.
If you can't record them every time you can also find them on torrents but don't forget to use vpn when downloading or watching this videos

This event was very poor except Kennedy Nzechukwu vs Ion Cutelaba that was ok to watch.

I couldn't watch Adesanya vs Pereira over again. Feels like I lose more than the money I bet every time I watch it.
TPB is where I go if I missed the event. But those were the times when I fancy Arianny Celeste. Now that I find no desirable girls anymore I just watch youtube uploads. They are not always the full fight but still keep me updated on what happened.

Bisping couldn't hide his disappointment when they announce at the last minute that Dirreck and Spivakfight is canceled. I think this is the only match to watch. In the past, people would be throwing water bottles when they hear such news.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 05:17:36 AM

It was I agree, but surely I think that Derrick Lewis just doesn't want to disappoint anyone which is why it was late when he announced his illness, it was really a bummer but I am more trying to understand what is going with the mind of Lewis, even though I am for his opponent, but Derrick Lewis is just human and surely can feel and have his own problem he just needs to solve, and anyone including Lewis doesn't want something like this happens,

Well, there are some that missed the fight because they are at different timezone, and you can surely record the whole fight and then sleep and watch the fight in the morning, I am also missing the fight sometimes and will then try to search for the event online, and yes that Fialho VS Salikhov was really something that I guess a good win for Muslim Salikhov, the level of competition now is really changing and many fighters should evolve with their style and Fialho isn't like that he is really more own a never calculating fighter,

Quote from: Balmain on November 20, 2022, 05:34:38 AM

Fialho started very well and definitely won the first round. He made a stinging hit to his left eye. Salikhov's spinning kicks gradually reduced the energy of the fialhon. Salikhov officially ground the fialho in the 2nd Round. He finished the fialho with ease in the 3rd round. His last kicks were all clear. His performance definitely improved after he moved to the American top team.

Cortes Acosta found very clear hits throughout the match Sherman could not respond to these hits much. Against those hits, he stood firm. Sherman was pretty tired from the head shots. Cortes threw so many punches at the end of his Roud 2 that it exhausted him too much to tko. Acos became 9-0 with this win.

I found out when I started watching the card that the main game had changed. Lewis was sick so he was replaced by Nzechukwu - Cutelaba as the main board. His knees in 2 rounds were very effective. He used his physical advantage super.

Anyway, like everyone else, I was disappointed to see that the Lewis game was cancelled. Lewis matches have always been fun for me, and learning this while watching this card killed me.

I surely seen Fialho never having a grip on the belt because of his style, this is what I think about if he doesn't want to counter that fight with Andre Fialho as I have predicted Muslim Salikhov is more technical than him and those spinning kicks was really something and for me great to watch and surely Salikhov will never going to get his nickname as king of Kungfu for nothing,

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Quote from: Welsh on November 20, 2022, 05:17:36 AM

I think I've got to start recording the fights, and like watch them on Sunday morning when they aren't the bigger events.

I started doing something like that for late night fights, and I only stay up when very interesting events are happening like Adesanya vs Pereira for example.
If you can't record them every time you can also find them on torrents but don't forget to use vpn when downloading or watching this videos

This event was very poor except Kennedy Nzechukwu vs Ion Cutelaba that was ok to watch.

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Fialho started very well and definitely won the first round. He made a stinging hit to his left eye. Salikhov's spinning kicks gradually reduced the energy of the fialhon. Salikhov officially ground the fialho in the 2nd Round. He finished the fialho with ease in the 3rd round. His last kicks were all clear. His performance definitely improved after he moved to the American top team.

Cortes Acosta found very clear hits throughout the match Sherman could not respond to these hits much. Against those hits, he stood firm. Sherman was pretty tired from the head shots. Cortes threw so many punches at the end of his Roud 2 that it exhausted him too much to tko. Acos became 9-0 with this win.

I found out when I started watching the card that the main game had changed. Lewis was sick so he was replaced by Nzechukwu - Cutelaba as the main board. His knees in 2 rounds were very effective. He used his physical advantage super.

Anyway, like everyone else, I was disappointed to see that the Lewis game was cancelled. Lewis matches have always been fun for me, and learning this while watching this card killed me.

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Probably one of the more disappointing fight nights in recent memory. Obviously, with the main event getting cancelled, but also some of the fights were rather disappointing. I know it happens from time to time, I'm just grateful I didn't need to stay up late. I think it was done by 11pm or somewhere around there. I remember staying up for the Poirer vs Conor fight, and obviously he snapped his leg, and I was absolutely gutted, and tired which made it worse. At least this time I had a good night sleep.

I think I've got to start recording the fights, and like watch them on Sunday morning when they aren't the bigger events. Probably better for my health Tongue

. Anyway, I'm gutted about Fialho, I was actually routed for him after round one. He's just so one dimensional I think he'll struggle against most of the more technical fighters. He needs to change up his game, and develop it further if he wants to progress any further. At the moment, He's just known for his hard hitting, but people won't remember his name if he continues to just search for that head.

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