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July 04, 2022, 02:17:58 AM
So guys, I am quite new to this sport,,, but I am trying to follow the news and developments, still very difficult for me to understand especially how the future match ups work and how weird one guy decides who meets who usually.

So my question is, because all the news outlets are 50-50. Do you think this Pereira guy has earned enough to meet Adesanya? One big win yes, but is it enough to say he now deserves to fight the main man?
No, I don't think he deserves a title shot yet. He defeated a top ten middleweight but he'll have to do more than a 3-fight win streak. Maybe a fight with Whittaker or Vettori first before Adesanya. BUT all matches ultimately depends on Dana. If he's happy about a fighter and the guy is easily marketable, he might give him a chance faster than the others. At the end of the day, it's still about who can bring in more crowd and pay for gate/PPV.
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July 04, 2022, 01:08:00 AM
So guys, I am quite new to this sport,,, but I am trying to follow the news and developments, still very difficult for me to understand especially how the future match ups work and how weird one guy decides who meets who usually.

So my question is, because all the news outlets are 50-50. Do you think this Pereira guy has earned enough to meet Adesanya? One big win yes, but is it enough to say he now deserves to fight the main man?
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July 04, 2022, 12:23:08 AM
Volk also announced he'll be moving up a division, which I'm all for. I honestly, after that performance against Max, don't think there's too many contenders in the same division. I thought Max would do better than that, but it's quite clear that Volk has just continued to get better, while Max looking a little stagnant. Same sort of attacks as the fight before, and didn't really have any other game plan. Tried to grapple, but Volk got the upper hand on pretty much every occasion.

Also, I haven't watched the post conference yet, is it worth watching? I'd only be interested in Strickland's attitude after being knocked out. That's if he didn't have to go to hospital for a few checks that is.

I think it is a fairly good decision now that he truly dominates the division, but if there could be a title defense for him that can threaten his belt I would like to pick guys that are in the lower ranks and in my opinion, Movsar Evloev and Ilia Topuria is they can reach a better spot in the rankings maybe they can be a decent match for Volkanovski in the future,

I think Sean Strickland is OK and doesn't really need medical attention after the fight with Alex Pereira, I have seen a video that Strickland shaking hands with Pereira and treating him while going out of the event hall, but I really don't know if he'll be speaking for a post-fight conference after what had happened, but I really wish he'd showed up,

Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier Round 5 Decision - WIN
Big congratulations to Isreal, One of the biggest winners in that game apart from him is drake the musicians who bet a whopping $1M  that he was going to win and won $2.5M. Isreal is making a good record for himself with now twenty three wins and one loss. His confidence level will be up as well having not lost any of his last twelve fights and preparing to face Pereira who he has a history with, it will be an entertaining fight to see them both once again, head to head on the stage.

That is a lot of money considering the odds for Israel Adesanya, against Cannonier he is the favorite and I haven't seen any news or article regarding that, or maybe he is in different bookies that Adesanya was the underdog, I think that was quite possible, but most of the gambling site that is well known to this forum Israel Adesanya has a pretty high odds,

Speaking about Alex Pereira's history about Israel Adesanya, that was really a long time ago and surely what Alex Pereira did back then he also did it now against Sean Strickland, so in my opinion with this Israel Adesanya better be careful about Alex Pereira, because what he can do back on their kickboxing match he can surely be done it again, but I think Israel Adesanya will be ready for it, he got a team that is pretty much doing a tremendous job because I think Israel Adesanya is really motivated about that fight and he will surely let doubters doubt,
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July 03, 2022, 10:15:11 PM
Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier Round 5 Decision - WIN
Big congratulations to Isreal, One of the biggest winners in that game apart from him is drake the musicians who bet a whopping $1M  that he was going to win and won $2.5M. Isreal is making a good record for himself with now twenty three wins and one loss. His confidence level will be up as well having not lost any of his last twelve fights and preparing to face Pereira who he has a history with, it will be an entertaining fight to see them both once again, head to head on the stage.

Is his bet only on Izzy? How could this be? The odds on Izzy was only 1.18. Izzy might not be Drake's only bet or he should share to us what sportsbook he is using before it becomes bankrupt from giving very good odds heheehhe. In any case, the Last Stylebender versus the Killa Gorilla was not very good to watch. It was very boring and according to Alex Pereira the fans were leaving on round 4.



During his UFC 276 post-fight press conference, Pereira expressed disappointment in Adesanya’s showing in the main event.

“It was not a fight that not only (didn’t) excite me but also did not excite the crowd. I was very sad to see that,” Pereira said of Adesanya’s performance. “So I hope when we fight, he do a better fight than that. For sure, I want to make him fight to give a better show to the crowd.”

Since Pereira first signed with the UFC, speculation has risen regarding a third fight between him and Adesanya. Pereira has accused Adesanya of ducking him leading up to Adesanya’s post-UFC 276 callout.


Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/07/pereira-adesanya-ufc-276/

Disappointing to see how boring the fight.  It didn't live up to what is expected to see since the two are known to throw shots that could immediately bring anyone of them down.  It didn't entertain the people on the side of the cage, they are the ones looking for action.

As for  Pereira, he is likely trying to annoy Adesanya. Pereira  is looks up to what Izzy had achieved in UFC while in the first try of Izzy in the combat sports he had knocked him down. A little bit more of intimidation, Dana could match the two.
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July 03, 2022, 09:37:02 PM
Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier Round 5 Decision - WIN
Big congratulations to Isreal, One of the biggest winners in that game apart from him is drake the musicians who bet a whopping $1M  that he was going to win and won $2.5M. Isreal is making a good record for himself with now twenty three wins and one loss. His confidence level will be up as well having not lost any of his last twelve fights and preparing to face Pereira who he has a history with, it will be an entertaining fight to see them both once again, head to head on the stage.

Is his bet only on Izzy? How could this be? The odds on Izzy was only 1.18. Izzy might not be Drake's only bet or he should share to us what sportsbook he is using before it becomes bankrupt from giving very good odds heheehhe. In any case, the Last Stylebender versus the Killa Gorilla was not very good to watch. It was very boring and according to Alex Pereira the fans were leaving on round 4.



During his UFC 276 post-fight press conference, Pereira expressed disappointment in Adesanya’s showing in the main event.

“It was not a fight that not only (didn’t) excite me but also did not excite the crowd. I was very sad to see that,” Pereira said of Adesanya’s performance. “So I hope when we fight, he do a better fight than that. For sure, I want to make him fight to give a better show to the crowd.”

Since Pereira first signed with the UFC, speculation has risen regarding a third fight between him and Adesanya. Pereira has accused Adesanya of ducking him leading up to Adesanya’s post-UFC 276 callout.


Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/07/pereira-adesanya-ufc-276/
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July 03, 2022, 03:49:35 PM
Do you think there could be a situation where Volkanovski is simply not in his weight class? It’s just that if you compare the fighters, then Max is higher, but Volkonovsky is much more athletic, more massive, I mean that he is not in his category and there are no equal fighters here. What do you think about this?
They weighed the same, the day before. That's how it works across most fighting sports. However, due to the way they weight cut, i.e mostly waters. On the day you're going to see some fighters gain their mass back rather quickly, and therefore will be heavier than the day before.

Now, there's been criticism of this in the past, but the only way you're going to stop this is by weighing them before they step in the cage. However, that presents new problems like, bad weight cuts causing the fighters to be drained before actually fighting, since they'd be fighting like a hour after they finished cutting, more cancelled fights or fighters losing their purse, and quite frankly wouldn't earn the UFC as many money since they wouldn't get double the viewers, since a lot of people tune into the weigh ins. Thus, they make more sponsorship money.

So, to answer your question in short; It's impossible to prevent a fighter from cutting so much that he weighs the same as his opponent the day before the fight, but ultimately is heavier on the day.
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July 03, 2022, 02:29:29 PM
Alexander Volkanovski was a superior fighter and he was much faster than Max Holloway and he was not able to find the range and Alexander Volkanovski was landing the heavy punches frequently and now it is time for Alexander Volkanovski to move up the division and fight ‎Charles Oliveira and that is what he said during the post fight interview and i believe that is what he is going to get next because he literally cleaned the division.
Do you think there could be a situation where Volkanovski is simply not in his weight class? It’s just that if you compare the fighters, then Max is higher, but Volkonovsky is much more athletic, more massive, I mean that he is not in his category and there are no equal fighters here. What do you think about this?
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July 03, 2022, 02:17:26 PM
Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier Round 5 Decision - WIN
Big congratulations to Isreal, One of the biggest winners in that game apart from him is drake the musicians who bet a whopping $1M  that he was going to win and won $2.5M. Isreal is making a good record for himself with now twenty three wins and one loss. His confidence level will be up as well having not lost any of his last twelve fights and preparing to face Pereira who he has a history with, it will be an entertaining fight to see them both once again, head to head on the stage.
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July 03, 2022, 12:43:08 PM
Volk also announced he'll be moving up a division, which I'm all for. I honestly, after that performance against Max, don't think there's too many contenders in the same division. I thought Max would do better than that, but it's quite clear that Volk has just continued to get better, while Max looking a little stagnant. Same sort of attacks as the fight before, and didn't really have any other game plan. Tried to grapple, but Volk got the upper hand on pretty much every occasion.

Also, I haven't watched the post conference yet, is it worth watching? I'd only be interested in Strickland's attitude after being knocked out. That's if he didn't have to go to hospital for a few checks that is.
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July 03, 2022, 12:16:09 PM
I was a Jessica-Rose Clark decision away from winning £15k. What's more annoying, it was the first bloody fight of the evening, so any tension was gone before we even started. I knew it, I bloody knew I should've favoured the wrestler. Especially, in Womans mixed martial arts, I find the wrestlers are usually the ones that make a good bet, when it comes to underdogs.

Love to see Strickland brought back down to reality. Feel like he overlooked Alex. Izzy did Izzy things, made it look easy, but ultimately wasn't a overly exciting fight. Honestly, despite the card being stacked, I felt a little bit disappointed by most of the fights.

Israel Adesanya
Alexander Volkanovski
Alex Pereira
Bryan Barberena
Pedro Munhoz
Brad Riddell
Jim Miller
Gabe Green
Dricus Du Plessis
André Muniz
Maycee Barber
Jessica-Rose Clark
8 out of 12, one of those being a no contest, so 8 out of 11. That's not a bad night, if Jessica had won, I'd have landed two bets.

It was surely not a bad night for you and with bets like this I really think we need to be prepared for the outcome, and like you, I also bet for Jessica-Rose Clark, and I surely never realized that Julija Stoliarenko was this good of a wrestler, pretty much I have never realized that the result will be like this aswell, but I surely never regret it and that is why I bet with a minimum 4 to 3 fights only, but 8 over 11 win still is decent,

Actually, Alex Pereira made Sean Strickland way too easy, pretty much Pereira is surely not just hype, the way he calculated the fight and condition, Strickland, in the way he wants him to do this was set up by Pereira, and in my opinion Israel Adesanya should be more worried about the guy that made him sleep on the canvas,


Alexander Volkanovski was a superior fighter and he was much faster than Max Holloway and he was not able to find the range and Alexander Volkanovski was landing the heavy punches frequently and now it is time for Alexander Volkanovski to move up the division and fight ‎Charles Oliveira and that is what he said during the post fight interview and i believe that is what he is going to get next because he literally cleaned the division.

Volkanovski is really looking for belt number 2 and given a chance he might become one, he surely got the Speed no doubt about that, while Charles Oliveira has the accuracy to land punches, this will be an epic fight but the media is looking for ways for Volkanovski to look like he doesn't deserve it, by saying that Holloway is not the same and not in his top physique but this is just an excused to make Volkanovski's look weak,

Max Holloway should take some time off, he is durable fighter but got punched a lot and i believe it is a UFC record or something. As long as Alexander Volkanovski is the champion he will not get a chance to fight for the title.

I truly salute Max Holloway's durability and chin, pretty much if Volkanovski would fight a different fighter it could be over in just 2 rounds, but Holloway surely has a sturdy chin that can withstand Volkanovski's strikes,
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July 03, 2022, 11:02:34 AM
I almost watched most of the fights on the main card, all the fights were standing, we watched full strike matches. I don't even remember seeing Takedown, even Takedown shows were very few. I was excited for the Sean O'Malley match because it's one of the strikes I'm curious about its growing. But unfortunately, the match did not continue because his opponent caught his finger in the eye. I think he could have continued the game, I don't know. In the Volkanovski and Holloway match, Volkanovski was fast and explosive in this match, as in the last two matches, and thus dominated him. Halloway took a lot of blows, he was very durable, I think he would have taken less beating if he adjusted the distance.
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July 03, 2022, 10:02:28 AM
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It was a confident victory from Volkanovski. Holloway tried to demonstrate activity, but because of this he only made many mistakes. He himself crossed out his advantage in growth, by the fact that he constantly approached, and in close combat Volkonovsky beat Max very confidently. Well, now we can say with confidence that this confrontation is over, Volkanovski proved his superiority.
Alexander Volkanovski was a superior fighter and he was much faster than Max Holloway and he was not able to find the range and Alexander Volkanovski was landing the heavy punches frequently and now it is time for Alexander Volkanovski to move up the division and fight ‎Charles Oliveira and that is what he said during the post fight interview and i believe that is what he is going to get next because he literally cleaned the division.

Max should take a cue from Israel, how coolly and prudently he uses his height advantage. No rapprochement, keeps the opponent at a distance and achieves another victory!
Max Holloway should take some time off, he is durable fighter but got punched a lot and i believe it is a UFC record or something. As long as Alexander Volkanovski is the champion he will not get a chance to fight for the title.
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July 03, 2022, 07:09:09 AM
I was a Jessica-Rose Clark decision away from winning £15k. What's more annoying, it was the first bloody fight of the evening, so any tension was gone before we even started. I knew it, I bloody knew I should've favoured the wrestler. Especially, in Womans mixed martial arts, I find the wrestlers are usually the ones that make a good bet, when it comes to underdogs.

Love to see Strickland brought back down to reality. Feel like he overlooked Alex. Izzy did Izzy things, made it look easy, but ultimately wasn't a overly exciting fight. Honestly, despite the card being stacked, I felt a little bit disappointed by most of the fights.

Israel Adesanya
Alexander Volkanovski
Alex Pereira
Bryan Barberena
Pedro Munhoz
Brad Riddell
Jim Miller
Gabe Green
Dricus Du Plessis
André Muniz
Maycee Barber
Jessica-Rose Clark
8 out of 12, one of those being a no contest, so 8 out of 11. That's not a bad night, if Jessica had won, I'd have landed two bets.
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July 03, 2022, 04:51:24 AM
Here is the Result of my picks for the UFC 276 pretty much I must feel happy on the main and co-main result but the thing that I am not so much happy about was the Jessica-Rose Clark VS Julija Stoliarenko fight, where Stoliarenko snaps Clark's arm, it was really scary seeing that, and I really hope she is just fine,

Israel Adesanya VS Jared Cannonier Round 5 Decision - WIN

That Walkout was the real highlight, but yeah just like most of his fights Israel Adesanya does it again, it is pretty much hard to fight Izzy because of his height and Jared Cannonier is having a difficult time because Izzy can easily evade his strikes and takedown attempts, that long reach from Israel Adesanya pretty much was the problem for Cannonier, keeping the distance and those kicks were shaken Cannonier in doing something, it was the pressure in what is Izzy is doing, I think Alex Pereira is the key to handling down Adesanya, but this is MMA and it is pretty much different with kickboxing

Alexander Volkanovski VS Max Holloway Round 5 Decision - WIN

Man! Alexander Volkanovski is a better boxer, and just like what he did to Brian Ortega and the Korean Zombie, this time he dominates Max Holloway, Holloway was getting outkicked, outpunch by Volkanovski, and the only thing great about Holloway here is his chin he surely takes plenty of punishment to the face just he is still standing up, Volkanovski is a legit boxer, and if you compare their 1st and 2nd fight to this 3rd fight Volkanovski is way faster than the old Volkanovski like this is not Alexander Volkanovski Holloway is fighting, and I really enjoy this and for Volkanovski Josh Emmett could be next,

Sean Strickland VS Alex Pereira Round 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

It was a bad choice for Strickland for taking this fight on the feet if he goes for a takedown I think that he can have an advantage because Alex Pereira is on another level when it comes to striking, the initial thing Pereira did was on his jab to condition Sean Strickland he conditions Strickland in thinking that a jab was coming for him but Pereira is moving from the left and Sean really didn't see it coming to the left hook, and just one punch was all he needs to knockout Strickland, and I think he can really do this to anybody so in my opinion, Alex Pereira deserves a title shot it look like Sean was an easy opponent the number 4 on the rankings and Israel Adesanya beating all the guys with a decision is pretty much Alex Pereira is the only one who can beat Israel Adesanya,

Jessica-Rose Clark VS Julija Stoliarenko Round 1 - Submission (Armbar) - LOST

I was really scared of what happened to this fight, that Armbar was really nasty, when it snaps, I really never expected that to happen, I thought it was a knockout from Rose Clark but I think Stoliarenko made Clark think that she got the upperhand so she goes for a takedown, and from that, an armbar has proceeded and it was a hell of a fight and I think that Jessica-Rose Clark got a serious dislocation and I just hope she doesn't but congrats to Julija Stoliarenko,
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July 03, 2022, 03:54:03 AM
I agree Max Holloway has the height and reach advantage over Volkanovski, but If you look at his fight against Brian Ortega and the Korean Zombie, he surely applied most of his recent fight mistakes so I am not bothered that he will lose against max Holloway, his fighting style is evolving due to his previous fights I think Volkanovski will fight more technically in this fight and will take the undoubtful Win in this 3rd fight,
It was a confident victory from Volkanovski. Holloway tried to demonstrate activity, but because of this he only made many mistakes. He himself crossed out his advantage in growth, by the fact that he constantly approached, and in close combat Volkonovsky beat Max very confidently. Well, now we can say with confidence that this confrontation is over, Volkanovski proved his superiority.

Max should take a cue from Israel, how coolly and prudently he uses his height advantage. No rapprochement, keeps the opponent at a distance and achieves another victory!
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July 03, 2022, 02:18:36 AM
a good defense from the match against Jared Cannonier. and some of his other finals. indeed a pretty good points adrift by Israel Adesanya. I was expecting a lot. maybe Robert Whittaker will meet him against his will. last February or will have the same fate as Marvin Vettori in the previous battle for the throne. Indeed, if you count points, Israel Adesanya is superior. Let's see Robert Whittaker's preparations or even the other way around.
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July 03, 2022, 01:56:06 AM
The full overview of the event:



I was asking myself why Hall was on the early prelims, and he loses. WTF Uriah? Lawler, Cerone, let's call it quits. As for the main events, nothing unexpected here. Adesanya is quickly becoming the Woodly of the division. Alex is seemingly unstoppable, he'll have to move up a division to get a real challenge.
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July 03, 2022, 01:48:33 AM
Lost my bets in this card but doesn't really matter. I was having fun looking at post-fight reactions Grin Izzy had the last laugh (again). Making easy work of Jared while Strickland lost in an embarrassing way. Izzy was right during that pre-fight conference that Sean should focus on Alex because he's a tough opponent. 'He will sleep you', he said and it's exactly what happened. It really doesn't help when you're already taunting the champ but you haven't defeated the opponent in front of you.

Hopefully, the third fight will put an end of Volkanovski vs. Holloway. Not a KO but still a convincing win for Alex.
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July 02, 2022, 11:29:13 PM
Adesanya vs Cannonier, always the result delayed. Placed on Adesanya to win the fight @1.19 whereas the odds for Cannonier @5.80, let's wait there's is chance of someone to be lucky out of this match. Right now entire discussion is all about StyleBender walkout with style.
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July 02, 2022, 05:18:30 PM
UFC is just getting started so tune in and watch Prelims that are starting in few minutes with Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier as commentators.
Don't miss early prelims, there are some great fights you don't want to miss if you like watching MMA.
I played on some surprise wins this time on one of my Sportsbet ticket with Uriah Hall and Donald Cerrone, and on other I played more safe option with Adesanya and Volkanovski.
Crossing fingers and getting the drinks ready!




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