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June 28, 2024, 10:07:35 PM
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway Cheesy).

Diego posted that the weight was agreed upon at the last minute because Ortega was unable to make it. And unfortunately Diego accepted this agreed weight, even though they both made the weight, it is worrying for Diego. But that's the thing, whoever wants to win must be prepared for anything.
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June 28, 2024, 04:23:18 PM
Maybe reconsider your bet on Arlovski? Even though he is a veteran and former champs, he seems to be loosing to a barely known guys. He is just old and chin has transformed into glass. Lost 3 last fights. (...)

He's only 45, the future belongs to him. He might have lost the last 3 fights, but there was clearly some progress: In October 2022 he lost in round 1, in June 2023 he lost in round 2, and in Jan 2024 he made it through the full 3 rounds and lost by decision. The pattern is clear, he's destined to win.

He also had losing streaks of 4 or even 5 in the past but managed to bounce back.


In other news, Ortega Vs Lopes got moved to 155. Allegedly Ortega really struggled to make the weight and couldn't go below 151, so the UFC contacted Lopes and said if he doesn't agree to  fight in 155 the fight will be off:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/06/ufc-303-weigh-ins-brian-ortega-diego-lopes-changed-lightweight-fight

I'm not sure what the implications will be (if any) in terms of the impact of the ranking, i.e. would Lopes move up in the featherweight ranks if he wins?
Also, this could be some unfair advantage to Ortega, as he didn't have to go through weight-cutting to the same degree as Lopes did. But I'm glad the fight is saved.
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June 28, 2024, 12:17:43 PM
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway Cheesy).

Its a step for Ortega to defend his rank against someone who also has the potential to really knock him. Since its confirmed he couldn't make the weight, I guess there is a chance for him to look great as possible in the cage. This is short notice though. He plans to fight in the LW and then accept to fight at 145. Definitely can't make it. It happens several times when they need to cut weight and just have to fight, its often not a healthy fight for them.  
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June 28, 2024, 09:17:33 AM
Maybe reconsider your bet on Arlovski? Even though he is a veteran and former champs, he seems to be loosing to a barely known guys. He is just old and chin has transformed into glass. Lost 3 last fights. His opponent, Martin Buday, even though he has lost last fight, was in a series of 12 wins (5 in UFC). Really, make another look on the fighters and your decision Cheesy Arlovski is 45 already, he isnt planning to become a champ, join title race, he is fighting just for fun imho, or as a hobby. Imho he does not have much to lose, so it is a high change that he will get knocked out.
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June 28, 2024, 07:56:41 AM
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway Cheesy).

I got Ortega.  Dunno...  But I feel like it's somewhat a step up for Lopez and the sports betting sites are laying Ortega as the underdog?  Yes please...

As for the rest of the roster, man I think this thing is seriously gonna be underdog city.  Like I think there's more than 5 live dogs for the event.

Some vids...

UFC 303:  Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZSZFF_grWU

UFC 303:  Embedded Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwjt_Z4PgSQ

UFC 303:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVKQoTbYl48

And here's the live weigh in show.  You guys should be watching it and getting reads if you can, if you're serious about betting in these fights.

UFC 303:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1fKsMOWa4

Edit:  And just noticed that jeremypwr's Multi Master is back.

UFC 303:  Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-303-multi-master-challenge-29-june-5500918

Alex Pereira
Brian Ortega
Macy Chiasson
Roman Dolidze
Ian Machado Garry
Marc Andre Barriault
Jean Silva
Cub Swanson
Payton Talbott
Michelle Waterson Gomez
Andrei Arlovski
Carlos Hernandez
Ricky Simon

Could be a greasy card.  I see 8 underdogs winning.  Lol.  9 if I count Anthony Smith.  He's live too.
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June 28, 2024, 03:26:00 AM
I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
his entire statement is a standup comedy worthy material. it's making me laughing so hard honestly the first time I see that kind of statement.

I mean when people taps or sleep they'd always try to find some excuse, but this excuse of using magic is beyond me lmao. probably such statement could only come from him and him alone, can't imagine other people throwing such silly accusations Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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June 28, 2024, 02:57:52 AM
I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
Haha we all know how their previous fight went and in reality Pereira was the winner, Jiri had to admit that but it was failure that he couldn't admit, whatever was said about mystical things was just joke here.

But on the other hand, this fight, which is their second, shows that Jiri Prochazka has truly extraordinary self-confidence, he said that he has prepared well and will try to win and win the championship title.
For Pereira, I think he will also show his best to defend the championship belt he already has, this is not the first time Pereira has fought to defend and risk championship belt.
I sure Pereira will get the win back and he will keep it, being the fighter who defends the light heavyweight title.
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June 28, 2024, 02:17:32 AM
What do you think about Lopez vs Ortega fight? A new UFC star, Lopez, seems to be experienced in everything. Only 2 decision among 24 wins. Never got submitted. When Ortega is familiar for submission and ground games. It seems to be that this weekend Lopez is going to take Ortegas third place in rating, and in one fight is going to have a title shot (if he passes Volk or Holloway Cheesy).
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June 27, 2024, 07:33:53 PM
I found it very funny when Jiri said that Pereira uses black magic and that if he were a man he wouldn't use it in fights. This is a great justification to show his own failure and how out of touch with reality he is.
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June 27, 2024, 12:25:26 PM
However Jiri took the first round in their first fight. And it was Jiri first fight after year long pause and injury. He might havent "got in the flow" in that fight. Now he has tested himself against Rakic, he might be able to get the fight into full distance. Pereira has a left bomb, but Jiri was knocked out only one during almost last 10 years, and fought against strikers often. I think Jiri has a strong chin and have chances to survive bombs. Anyway, we will see it in few days. But I really doubt that he does not know about Pereiras left hand and would go whole fight with hand low.

Jiri only got that 1st round because of scoring a takedown when he managed to stay on the top, but didn't do much damage and Pereira escaped eventually. Before that, he was getting punished with powerful leg kicks.
That was a 5 round fight, so I wouldn't be putting too much weight on the 1st round. Usually fighters would just use it to "feel" their opponents etc.
And I think Pereira lacked a bit of confidence back then. That was his 2nd fight in the Light Heavyweight, he won his debut against Blachowicz, but it was unconvincing split decision and, before that, he got KO'ed by Adesanya.

So if we are to make predictions based on the first fight, Prochazka's best bet is to try to take it to the ground, but that's just not his style. And outstriking Alex will be hell of a task, but not impossible.

Jiri is huge, he could try TD but has to be ready to receive the blow he'd get. It's not easy to do when Alex has also trained for it, it's his weakness he has to make himself not vulnerable to TDs.

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The two have become enemies even in the spirit world actually lol I wonder who they will consult after the fight. This is a battle of whose spirit has more magic tricks. Alex isn't denying it too so both are crazy which I think we could expect the worse in the cage.
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June 27, 2024, 12:11:15 PM
However Jiri took the first round in their first fight. And it was Jiri first fight after year long pause and injury. He might havent "got in the flow" in that fight. Now he has tested himself against Rakic, he might be able to get the fight into full distance. Pereira has a left bomb, but Jiri was knocked out only one during almost last 10 years, and fought against strikers often. I think Jiri has a strong chin and have chances to survive bombs. Anyway, we will see it in few days. But I really doubt that he does not know about Pereiras left hand and would go whole fight with hand low.

Jiri only got that 1st round because of scoring a takedown when he managed to stay on the top, but didn't do much damage and Pereira escaped eventually. Before that, he was getting punished with powerful leg kicks.
That was a 5 round fight, so I wouldn't be putting too much weight on the 1st round. Usually fighters would just use it to "feel" their opponents etc.
And I think Pereira lacked a bit of confidence back then. That was his 2nd fight in the Light Heavyweight, he won his debut against Blachowicz, but it was unconvincing split decision and, before that, he got KO'ed by Adesanya.

So if we are to make predictions based on the first fight, Prochazka's best bet is to try to take it to the ground, but that's just not his style. And outstriking Alex will be hell of a task, but not impossible.
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June 27, 2024, 05:21:07 AM
Alex Pereira x1.73 vs. Jiří Procházka x2.12      

The main event looks promising but I don't expect Jiri to win the belt back. His striking style of keeping his hands down all the time is all Pereira could ask for.

However Jiri took the first round in their first fight. And it was Jiri first fight after year long pause and injury. He might havent "got in the flow" in that fight. Now he has tested himself against Rakic, he might be able to get the fight into full distance. Pereira has a left bomb, but Jiri was knocked out only one during almost last 10 years, and fought against strikers often. I think Jiri has a strong chin and have chances to survive bombs. Anyway, we will see it in few days. But I really doubt that he does not know about Pereiras left hand and would go whole fight with hand low.
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June 26, 2024, 08:42:16 PM
4 days till UFC and we have a silence here Cheesy I guess you guys are chilling on the beach with cocktails, while I am working Cheesy

On UFC 303, 4 fights from main card looks worth not missing. First of all we have a title fight. Pereira vs Prochazka rematch is the fight you should not miss. Last time they met, some said it was an early stoppage. It wasnt a dominance by champ. Jiri has all chance to return his belt. Co-main event - Lopes, a new hyped guy by UFC. Smith - huge mma veteran. Ian Garry with 14-0 against a taunting kickboxer from kickboxer family Cheesy

Odds for the main card:

Alex Pereira x1.73 vs. Jiří Procházka x2.12      
Brian Ortega x2.33 vs. Diego Lopes x1.66
Anthony Smith x2.20 vs. Roman Dolidze x1.67
Mayra Bueno Silva x1.86 vs. Macy Chiasson x1.94
Ian Machado Garry x1.73 vs. Michael Page x2.12

The main event looks promising but I don't expect Jiri to win the belt back. His striking style of keeping his hands down all the time is all Pereira could ask for. But this is MMA, so anything is possible.
I find Garry insufferable so wouldn't mind seeing him getting KO'd. Page is probably technically better, but we already know oddsmakers tend to favour younger fighters.

The only ones I'm betting on are:

Alex Pereira
Diego Lopes
Ian Machado

The rest don't interest me and I don't know much about the fighters. In fact, I really believe in Diego Lopes and everything he's bringing. Since he joined the team, he's only lost once, and that loss was practically a victory because he gave it his all and has been doing so since the very beginning. I hope he can prove himself.
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June 26, 2024, 04:43:03 PM
4 days till UFC and we have a silence here Cheesy I guess you guys are chilling on the beach with cocktails, while I am working Cheesy

On UFC 303, 4 fights from main card looks worth not missing. First of all we have a title fight. Pereira vs Prochazka rematch is the fight you should not miss. Last time they met, some said it was an early stoppage. It wasnt a dominance by champ. Jiri has all chance to return his belt. Co-main event - Lopes, a new hyped guy by UFC. Smith - huge mma veteran. Ian Garry with 14-0 against a taunting kickboxer from kickboxer family Cheesy

Odds for the main card:

Alex Pereira x1.73 vs. Jiří Procházka x2.12      
Brian Ortega x2.33 vs. Diego Lopes x1.66
Anthony Smith x2.20 vs. Roman Dolidze x1.67
Mayra Bueno Silva x1.86 vs. Macy Chiasson x1.94
Ian Machado Garry x1.73 vs. Michael Page x2.12

The main event looks promising but I don't expect Jiri to win the belt back. His striking style of keeping his hands down all the time is all Pereira could ask for. But this is MMA, so anything is possible.
I find Garry insufferable so wouldn't mind seeing him getting KO'd. Page is probably technically better, but we already know oddsmakers tend to favour younger fighters.
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June 26, 2024, 11:08:00 AM
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Among the funniest to compile is Jahamal Hill knocking Walker. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/w-HoWX7C568

Arlovski is already ancient but they still manage to slip him there.  Without Conor, I think they managed to make the 303 acceptable.
Alex and Jiri saved the event and then there's MVP and Diego Lopes for the hype. They have been looking forward to this man smashing ranked fighters comparing him to Olivera, the odds say so too. Ian Garry is the bookmaker's favorite by the way against MVP. I think this is potentially an upset fight in which MVP could KO Garry.

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June 26, 2024, 10:57:54 AM
^  I had an inkling that Volkov could win the match.  Wasn't confident enough to bet on it tho.

In this last card I lost big bets on Walker, he is not playing with a good strategy and this is leaving him vulnerable in all the confrontations all the time. I hope he can change this soon.

I was leaning on Walker to win too.  He's faster, bigger, stronger, has the powerrr to starch most guys at 205.  But that chin...  Lol.  From a betting perspective you just can't trust it.

For the coming event, here are some vids to watch...  Enjoy.


The worst part of all is that he has a huge wingspan, bigger than most, and he simply doesn't use it to his advantage. Even when fighting seriously, he can't find his feet or put up a good fight.
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June 26, 2024, 07:21:19 AM
^  I had an inkling that Volkov could win the match.  Wasn't confident enough to bet on it tho.

In this last card I lost big bets on Walker, he is not playing with a good strategy and this is leaving him vulnerable in all the confrontations all the time. I hope he can change this soon.

I was leaning on Walker to win too.  He's faster, bigger, stronger, has the powerrr to starch most guys at 205.  But that chin...  Lol.  From a betting perspective you just can't trust it.


Imho it looks that Volkov deserves to be #3 more than Pavlovich. The more I look on Pavlovich performance, the more he reminds me of a Lesnar who could only push forward and have strength. What we saw from him last fight? Majority of attacks were straight. 2 punch combo of jab and overhand. Even his team between 2nd and 3rd rounds pause told him that he must do at least 3 strike combos. If Pavlovich faces a technician fighter next, lets say Gane, he would be beaten easily. Volkov on the other hand has advanced from base karateka, to showing grappling. Also social media noted, that Volkov fough all 3 rounds as a southpaw, when he was orthodox previous 47 rounds Cheesy

About Walker - soon we could make a compilation of Walker being knocked down and fall in strange and weird stance  Roll Eyes

Yeah..  Before seeing him vs Aspinall, I thought he could be next to go fight vs Jon Jones...  But after Aspinall and an Aspinall at short notice, I think yeah you're right.  He kinda lacks the skill to beat some of the top guys at heavyweight.  I mean not taking away anything against him.  I still think Pav is a tough dude like all Russian fighters are in the UFC, just needs a little bit more experience.

Here's another Embedded vid.

UFC 303:  Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JogJB55sH0

And yeah funny how Walker's body goes straight when he gets starched.
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June 26, 2024, 03:41:10 AM
4 days till UFC and we have a silence here Cheesy I guess you guys are chilling on the beach with cocktails, while I am working Cheesy

On UFC 303, 4 fights from main card looks worth not missing. First of all we have a title fight. Pereira vs Prochazka rematch is the fight you should not miss. Last time they met, some said it was an early stoppage. It wasnt a dominance by champ. Jiri has all chance to return his belt. Co-main event - Lopes, a new hyped guy by UFC. Smith - huge mma veteran. Ian Garry with 14-0 against a taunting kickboxer from kickboxer family Cheesy

In addition we have crystal chin Arlovski in early prelims (never seen him fighting so early). A guy with most time spend in octagon, most fights in heavyweights, most wins by decision. This is going to be 60th fight in Arlovski career.
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June 25, 2024, 08:29:41 AM
^  I had an inkling that Volkov could win the match.  Wasn't confident enough to bet on it tho.

In this last card I lost big bets on Walker, he is not playing with a good strategy and this is leaving him vulnerable in all the confrontations all the time. I hope he can change this soon.

I was leaning on Walker to win too.  He's faster, bigger, stronger, has the powerrr to starch most guys at 205.  But that chin...  Lol.  From a betting perspective you just can't trust it.


Imho it looks that Volkov deserves to be #3 more than Pavlovich. The more I look on Pavlovich performance, the more he reminds me of a Lesnar who could only push forward and have strength. What we saw from him last fight? Majority of attacks were straight. 2 punch combo of jab and overhand. Even his team between 2nd and 3rd rounds pause told him that he must do at least 3 strike combos. If Pavlovich faces a technician fighter next, lets say Gane, he would be beaten easily. Volkov on the other hand has advanced from base karateka, to showing grappling. Also social media noted, that Volkov fough all 3 rounds as a southpaw, when he was orthodox previous 47 rounds Cheesy

About Walker - soon we could make a compilation of Walker being knocked down and fall in strange and weird stance  Roll Eyes
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June 25, 2024, 07:18:15 AM
^  I had an inkling that Volkov could win the match.  Wasn't confident enough to bet on it tho.

In this last card I lost big bets on Walker, he is not playing with a good strategy and this is leaving him vulnerable in all the confrontations all the time. I hope he can change this soon.

I was leaning on Walker to win too.  He's faster, bigger, stronger, has the powerrr to starch most guys at 205.  But that chin...  Lol.  From a betting perspective you just can't trust it.

For the coming event, here are some vids to watch...  Enjoy.

UFC 303:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BgEJU6mqJU

UFC 303:  Embedded Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKU8n9_k8WA

Edit:  Oh and here's an appetizer the day before 303...  Power Slap with Paige Van Zant at the co main event.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  It's gonna be hilarious.

Power Slap 8 Live
https://rumble.com/v52hxqd-power-slap-8-da-crazy-hawaiian-vs-van-heerden-june-28-2024-at-9pm-et-6pm-pt.html
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