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Quote from: tokeweed on September 06, 2024, 06:28:46 AM

^ Would be a waste if the seats aren't filled for people to get into the whole experience. I watched Cirque Du Soleil a couple of times and I could imagine it to be the same in the Sphere, but with fighting. Dunno tho, but the walk ins could be interesting.

And those ticket prices that were reduced, they're prolly the cheaper seats as last I've heard the cheapest ones for 306 were around 1.5k USD or something. Those should fill up pretty quick at 800 imho.

Anyway weigh ins in around 4 hours...

UFC Fight Night Burns vs Brady: Live Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHE8l2nB1Vg

What I think is that they are trying to bring hype in every way possible to fighters who don't have a large fan base or simply don't want it. It seems that they, the fighters, don't understand that they are a brand. And because of that, they need to take care of their image and have a fan base to earn even more, get sponsorship, etc., etc.

But 90% of fighters can't understand this and end up living one day at a time and spending it all.

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^ Would be a waste if the seats aren't filled for people to get into the whole experience. I watched Cirque Du Soleil a couple of times and I could imagine it to be the same in the Sphere, but with fighting. Dunno tho, but the walk ins could be interesting.

And those ticket prices that were reduced, they're prolly the cheaper seats as last I've heard the cheapest ones for 306 were around 1.5k USD or something. Those should fill up pretty quick at 800 imho.

Anyway weigh ins in around 4 hours...

UFC Fight Night Burns vs Brady: Live Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHE8l2nB1Vg

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Quote from: cabron on September 05, 2024, 01:30:35 PM

Must have really flopped that they reduced the price to 800USD. Probably due to the Canelo boxing match in Tmobile Las Vegas as well.

I remember there was a case (or maybe these were just rumours), that when Canelo fought Kovalev at the same night when Nate Diaz was fighting Masvidal, they had to wait for 2 hours for Diaz vs Masvidal fight to over, so that they can start their and grab attention of viewers back. https://www.instagram.com/p/C-BIxtPpgr5 that is that case. Now the story turned 180 degrees and UFC had to do something to get attention back.

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~~Ladies and~~ gentlemen - meet the next president of Ireland:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-13817591/Conor-McGregor-ireland-president.html

McGregor has hinted before he would run for president one day and 7h ago he confirmed his plans on X:
https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1831676863334273494

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As President I hold the power to summon the Dáil as well as dissolve it. So as i said before, I would have all the answers the people of Ireland seek from these thieves of the working man, these disrupters of the family unit, these destructors of small businesses, and on and on and on! These charlatans in their positions of power would be summoned to answer to the people of Ireland and I would have it done by day end. Or I would be left with no choice but to dissolve the Dáil entirely. Stop the train until. The people of Ireland deserve the answers they seek. Point blank. This would be my power as President. I know very well. Ireland needs an active President employed wholly by the people of Ireland. It is me. I am the only logical choice. 2025 is upcoming…

Is he serious or trolling? Who knows...

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 05, 2024, 06:44:20 AM

Remember how I told that UFC got into trap after making so cool UFC 298-300 events? Now with each next event fans expect only better cards, but got decent. They are in huge troubles every time they make numeral event, and outside UEA Cheesy

I have seen multiple times how Dana said that he wants UFC to be first sport event to be held in Sphere, how cool that venue is. And we get only few big fights in main event. While previously there were events, where all fights in main card and most of prelims were worth not missing.

Rosas Jr., a guy with charisma and a increasing hype around. Why he is in early prelims? Who was in charge of matchmaking? 2 women fights in prelims. People will watch Rosas, then go away and return on Ortega vs Lopes fight.

The Contender Series is precisely to bring in new talent, because it comes at a time when fighters don't want to fight, or they want more money, among other things. Among other reasons, this ends up making the cards weak, and they don't change all the categories and leave many fighters idle. While others fight several times a year. So the Contender Series is precisely to avoid this kind of thing, to bring in people with energy who accept a lot and who knows, maybe they'll find a new star.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 04, 2024, 03:54:07 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 06:45:59 AM

^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks.

If he is trying to be funny and get some camera star lights (for a better pay check), then it will be hard for him to beat his previous "act of funniness" --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8VjcLEHxjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcpmKEHB1o first short vid from compilation. Merab really scares fans Cheesy

Went looking for Merab funny video, drawn in youtube watching how crazy this guy is Cheesy

Crazy, but kind and funny guy.

Btw, have you noticed, the smaller and lighter fighters are, the funny, kind and humble they are. We rarely see big guys being Mr. Nice Guys.

The timing of him being funny these days however can be interpreted differently like what MMA guru was saying about Merab just few hours ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIcsFKVjdQ0&t=8s People just have different views to what is happening. But MMAA guru is doubling down to Omalley by KO.

Its fun watching this guy especially because he always has takes to everything what Dana does even in this Sphere while this is for Mexican Independence day and Mexican fighters are prioritized, Dana held this in Sphere Las Vegas when he should be doing it in Mexico.

Must have really flopped that they reduced the price to 800USD. Probably due to the Canelo boxing match in Tmobile Las Vegas as well.

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Remember how I told that UFC got into trap after making so cool UFC 298-300 events? Now with each next event fans expect only better cards, but got decent. They are in huge troubles every time they make numeral event, and outside UEA Cheesy

I have seen multiple times how Dana said that he wants UFC to be first sport event to be held in Sphere, how cool that venue is. And we get only few big fights in main event. While previously there were events, where all fights in main card and most of prelims were worth not missing.

Rosas Jr., a guy with charisma and a increasing hype around. Why he is in early prelims? Who was in charge of matchmaking? 2 women fights in prelims. People will watch Rosas, then go away and return on Ortega vs Lopes fight.

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^ Yeah... About 306. Lol. Looking at it now, the roster kinda looks weak for an event that's touted to be one of the best ever by Dana White in post fight press conferences. I'm gonna lower my expectations for a bit on that one...

Outside the main event the matches I like are Ortega vs Lopes if Ortega is healthy and Rosas vs Aoriqileng? Cheesy

Michel Pereira vs Anthony Hernandez would've been def awesome if it wasn't rescheduled. But yeah... What was the event you posted a little while ago? 308? I think the match ups there are waaay better.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/112501-ufc-308

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 04, 2024, 06:42:06 AM

^ Yup he has a few loose screws in the head. Lolol. Remember that time when O'Malley and Sterling faced off and Merab got O'Malley's red coat and wore it..? Cheesy

I didn't even notice until somebody pointed it out. But that's not the funny part. The funny part was when Merab didn't return it. Lol. So I think O'Malley had to look for him to get it back a couple of weeks later or something.

Imagine if Merab and O' Malley would start trash talk and create artificial hate to sell more PPV because of that red jacket Cheesy

Such a kinder garden level conflict. Lol, I have remembered how I got a black eyes after a hit by change shoes (we have to change dirty outside shoes for clean ones to walk in school), because I made fun out of other guys clothes being not original. He had those awful fake Nike sneakers and the 4 stripe logo with addiddas on his trousers. Such a stupid act of me, I was such a fool. Such a shame Cheesy

Seems that nobody here is interested in Burns vs Braddy event, except for a main event fight. Even media is somehow dead. Those 2 week pauses between events are always bad.

Ok, lets move to UFC 306 (should we?). Have you seen that it is going to held in Sphere and there are already problems with tickets. People are not buying them. Cheapest tickets price was 3k, with a 12k for premium seats. Several weeks till event and there are a lot of seats available. Current cheapest seat price was decreased to 800 bucks. We can discuss that thing right now. Either tickets were way to expensive (anyone knows how much they usually cost for a numeral event?), or bad card, or UFC is loosing popularity.

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^ Yup he has a few loose screws in the head. Lolol. Remember that time when O'Malley and Sterling faced off and Merab got O'Malley's red coat and wore it..? Cheesy

I didn't even notice until somebody pointed it out. But that's not the funny part. The funny part was when Merab didn't return it. Lol. So I think O'Malley had to look for him to get it back a couple of weeks later or something.

But he's a good guy who's prolly loyal to his friends as we saw with how he respected Sterling. That was nice to see.

Here's a replay of Sean Brady vs a washed Gastelum.

UFC Free Fight: Brady vs Gastelum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUpbjNIoBXE

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 06:45:59 AM

^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks.

If he is trying to be funny and get some camera star lights (for a better pay check), then it will be hard for him to beat his previous "act of funniness" --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8VjcLEHxjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcpmKEHB1o first short vid from compilation. Merab really scares fans Cheesy

Went looking for Merab funny video, drawn in youtube watching how crazy this guy is Cheesy

Crazy, but kind and funny guy.

Btw, have you noticed, the smaller and lighter fighters are, the funny, kind and humble they are. We rarely see big guys being Mr. Nice Guys.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 03, 2024, 07:56:07 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 06:45:59 AM

^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks. They need to eat too you know... Cheesy

And the funny thing is the fans eat it up with a fork and a knife. But it's good for selling the event tho. There PPV and gate ticket buys they get then the fighter involved in the title fights bring him more money as they are given a percentage of those.
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Spot on. No such thing as bad publicity. Journos (or the mma content creators) would use anything that will bring them more clicks/views and the UFC would do the same to hype up the fight. Especially when Dvalishvili is not there yet in terms of being among the most recognisable fighters. There's a chance he will beat O'Malley for the bantamweight title, and the last thing any fighting organisation wants is an unknown guy holding the belt.

And the strategy works. Look at us right here, we all agree that the stitches thing is not newsworthy and yet, we're spending our time to talk about that.

Sort of like that. MMA channels are always making more content that will make news. However, Dana said it himself, fighters like Merab showing a cut like that while their fight is 3 weeks away is like trying to get out of the battle. I think this was it https://x.com/MMAJunkie/status/1828417917798519091

Merab knows Omalley is Dana's boy. Omalley would resign from UFC and maybe many of them would resign if Dana resigned as UFC CEO. That's what Omalley said when asked. Dana privileges I think we all know Dana has fave boys.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 03, 2024, 07:56:07 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 06:45:59 AM

^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks. They need to eat too you know... Cheesy

And the funny thing is the fans eat it up with a fork and a knife. But it's good for selling the event tho. There PPV and gate ticket buys they get then the fighter involved in the title fights bring him more money as they are given a percentage of those.
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Spot on. No such thing as bad publicity. Journos (or the mma content creators) would use anything that will bring them more clicks/views and the UFC would do the same to hype up the fight. Especially when Dvalishvili is not there yet in terms of being among the most recognisable fighters. There's a chance he will beat O'Malley for the bantamweight title, and the last thing any fighting organisation wants is an unknown guy holding the belt.

And the strategy works. Look at us right here, we all agree that the stitches thing is not newsworthy and yet, we're spending our time to talk about that.

Usually what they do is post thumbnails so that anyone who sees them can click on them. For example, the Charles Oliveira fight, there is nothing official but there are several people suggesting fights and reporting them as true news. And I have no doubt that the UFC itself sees these posts and makes decisions based on them.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 03, 2024, 06:45:59 AM

^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks. They need to eat too you know... Cheesy

And the funny thing is the fans eat it up with a fork and a knife. But it's good for selling the event tho. There PPV and gate ticket buys they get then the fighter involved in the title fights bring him more money as they are given a percentage of those.
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Spot on. No such thing as bad publicity. Journos (or the mma content creators) would use anything that will bring them more clicks/views and the UFC would do the same to hype up the fight. Especially when Dvalishvili is not there yet in terms of being among the most recognisable fighters. There's a chance he will beat O'Malley for the bantamweight title, and the last thing any fighting organisation wants is an unknown guy holding the belt.

And the strategy works. Look at us right here, we all agree that the stitches thing is not newsworthy and yet, we're spending our time to talk about that.

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^ He's just trying to be funny and the journos are trying to make something out of it for clicks. They need to eat too you know... Cheesy

And the funny thing is the fans eat it up with a fork and a knife. But it's good for selling the event tho. There PPV and gate ticket buys they get then the fighter involved in the title fights bring him more money as they are given a percentage of those.

Anyway here's a replay involving one of the fighters in the main event this weekend.

UFC Free Fight: Burns vs Masvidal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYlukLZC9o

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Why is that story with Merab cutting his stiches with huge scissors so special? When I was a kid, fall down and doctor had to stich skin under my knee, I also after some weeks took of stiches myself. The doc even allowed me to do nothing, because, as he told me, those were special threads, and my body will push them out itself. Fighters got cuts all the time, so they are quite experienced with stiches. The hype is around him using huge scissors to cut stiches? The guy just used scissors that were near Cheesy

If those stiches were bothering me all the time, I would also did not bother much to go to doc to take them out, or go hope to take small scissors for nail to cut stiches Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on September 01, 2024, 11:24:31 AM

Yup, that's what Dana said, he pointed out that the matchmakers decide who the fighters fight. I don't know why he should be defending Jones not fighting Tom, when he could tell everyone to ask the matchmakers why they couldn't let Jones fight Tom. But Dana already told the people, that he promised them a fight years ago but because of the injuries, it was delayed. It's his decision after all.

Yeah, I don't buy the story that his not involved in matchmaking or that he doesn't have a significant influence over who gets matched up with who.
They almost definitely have a small team involved, analysing many factors (including profitability) and trying to plan long-term, but he's definitely part of that team and likely has a final say.

Quote from: cabron on September 01, 2024, 11:24:31 AM

Merab acting weirder than usual such as taunting Dana about his cut on x, there must be something happening behind. Idk, when a fighter defies Dana, they end up like El Cucuy.

You mean this post?:
https://twitter.com/MerabDvalishvil/status/1828628849112084732
I wouldn't say that's taunting.
He did raise some concerns by posting a video of himself partying and drinking two weeks before the fight. But I think it was a one-time thing, there's probably no harm in that, could be actually a good thing.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 31, 2024, 11:24:28 AM

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There have been rumors about it and it would mean a fixed fight but it is often just ignored since it really isn't said in a manner we hear it in movies. Well, everything is unbelievable until someone rats them. Didn't Mokaev said in one of his interviews that Dana ordered him not to take down or something? Ofc we discredit that claim because he's an asshole but I'm sure he wasn't the first to have said that.

I don't think Mokaev pointed to Dana specifically but was either talking about the UFC in general or about matchmakers if I remember correctly.
But I don't think that, other than him, any other fighters were confirming that to be a common practice. And we've seen a lot of fighters criticising the UFC for multiple things, so I don't think they'll be able to keep that a secret.
That being said, it's common knowledge that if you shoot for takedowns and stall the fight on the ground, the fans won't like it and will be less keen to buy tickets/PPV for such fights, reducing your earning potential and, in turn, your earnings.

Yup, that's what Dana said, he pointed out that the matchmakers decide who the fighters fight. I don't know why he should be defending Jones not fighting Tom, when he could tell everyone to ask the matchmakers why they couldn't let Jones fight Tom. But Dana already told the people, that he promised them a fight years ago but because of the injuries, it was delayed. It's his decision after all.

Merab acting weirder than usual such as taunting Dana about his cut on x, there must be something happening behind. Idk, when a fighter defies Dana, they end up like El Cucuy.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 30, 2024, 03:41:21 PM

Nah, that's a popular tactic for wrestlers Vs strikers fights. When the fight is scheduled for 5 rounds, there's no pressure to show all your cards in the first round. It makes sense for wrestlers to engage with striking, so their opponent starts to feel more comfortable and it's easier to shorten the distance. We saw it e.g. in Blachowicz Vs Adesanya fight when Jan was exchanging strikes for like 2 rounds before starting to shoot for takedowns. He admitted later in an interview that was his strategy.

A wrestler in MMA usually also has striking although not as good as a pure striker with a boxing or muaythai base. In my personal opinion, wrestlers usually measure their opponent's striking ability to assess whether they are able to compete with their opponent. Wrestling requires great stamina and I think even pure wrestlers will not necessarily have stamina for five rounds. So competing with striking in the first and second rounds can also be said to be a strategy. The third to fifth rounds are usually when wrestlers will show their cards. But the problem is that wrestlers have problems if their opponents have good takedown defense. I don't know what happened to Sterling but Blachowiz realized that he couldn't compete with Adesanya with striking so he started playing ground games in the third to fifth rounds.

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Quote from: cabron on August 31, 2024, 10:52:37 AM

There have been rumors about it and it would mean a fixed fight but it is often just ignored since it really isn't said in a manner we hear it in movies. Well, everything is unbelievable until someone rats them. Didn't Mokaev said in one of his interviews that Dana ordered him not to take down or something? Ofc we discredit that claim because he's an asshole but I'm sure he wasn't the first to have said that.

I don't think Mokaev pointed to Dana specifically but was either talking about the UFC in general or about matchmakers if I remember correctly.
But I don't think that, other than him, any other fighters were confirming that to be a common practice. And we've seen a lot of fighters criticising the UFC for multiple things, so I don't think they'll be able to keep that a secret.
That being said, it's common knowledge that if you shoot for takedowns and stall the fight on the ground, the fans won't like it and will be less keen to buy tickets/PPV for such fights, reducing your earning potential and, in turn, your earnings.

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