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UFC on ESPN: Lemos vs. Jandiroba

Date: July 21, 2024
Preliminary Card : SUN, JUL 21 / 12:00 AM GMT+3
Main Card: SUN, JUL 21 / 3:00 AM GMT+3

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN)
Women's Strawweight: Amanda Lemos vs. Virna Jandiroba
Middleweight: Brad Tavares vs. Park Jun-yong
Featherweight: Steve Garcia vs. Choi Seung-woo
Lightweight: Kurt Holobaugh vs. Kaynan Kruschewsky
Featherweight: Choi Doo-ho vs. Bill Algeo

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Flyweight: Cody Durden vs. Bruno Gustavo da Silva
Featherweight: Lee Jeong-yeong vs. Hyder Amil
Bantamweight: Brian Kelleher vs. Cody Gibson
Women's Flyweight: Miranda Maverick vs. Dione Barbosa
Lightweight: Loik Radzhabov vs. Trey Ogden
Women's Flyweight: Luana Carolina vs. Lucie Pudilová
Heavyweight: Mohammed Usman vs. Thomas Peterse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Lemos_vs._Jandiroba

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 13, 2024, 04:15:51 PM

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 13, 2024, 01:35:59 PM

Imho, with Dagestani and Muslim religion, if a man made a word, he will lose tons of respect if he suddenly changes his mind. Khabib told that he has finished his career, and I think he wont ever return, not even in a exhibition fight. He will not be man of his word if he does. He will get so much hate from his own people. The only way he could get involved into a fight, someone touches his family. But that wont be a fight under any rules Cheesy

Khabib losing his assets I think is just like someone touches his family. Taking away what's supposedly for them. It's their culture though so I have no idea what things may mean to them. But in general, a man has to do things he may not like to provide for his family. The news is already widespread, I think the people will understand if he breaks his word.

Sports events today have to provide the most popular fighters to divert the people's attention and not focus on what the government is doing. I think Dana is even open to the idea of Jon Jones vs Francis Ngannou, I read a headline just today about this. PFL vs UFC will be bigger.

As mentioned in the news, his gym was raided as he is being tied to an extremist. We don't know his next plans owed to this development. But changing the mind of a fighter is not new in this sports and in the boxing as well. Do take note, some of the boxers who are already in retirement will get out of retirement to fight one more match.

Khabib’s gym raided after terror attack: here’s what you need to know

I know that Conor McGregor thought the whole thing was pretty funny. Sort of makes you wonder who really won that fight between them. Khabib never fought again and is now broke, Conor went on to make hundreds of millions and is still wanting to get back in the ring…

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Hey tokeweed, how do you like Jackson vs Blackshear fight? Blackshear has cought maximum - heavy left from southpaw. 18 seconds and Blackshear is finished. Jackson is on a series of 5 wins. That is a nice warning for all bantamweight guys. Jackson is fron Uncle Dana White series. Thought you were pro in it. Any more guys I should pay attention to?

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^ Oof... At first I was like whatever. But that is something serious. He'll prolly go into hiding if the Russian government intends to throw him in behind bars or some serious interrogation. And is Russia in something like a state of national emergency because of the shenanigans going on vs Ukraine? Now is not the time to be involved in some sht like that...

I feel bad for his team as they prolly have nothing to do with the whole thing.

But yeah... I hope he gets everything sorted out.

Anyway here are the results. It was a decent event until the co main and the main event. Lol.

Women's Flyweight: Rose Namajunas def Tracy Cortez
Welterweight: Muslim Salikhov def Santiago Ponzinibbio
Lightweight: Jean Silva def Drew Dober
Welterweight: Gabriel Bonfim def Ange Loosa
Featherweight: Julian Erosa def Christian Rodriguez
Middleweight: Abdul Razak Alhassan vs Cody Brundage
Flyweight: Charles Johnson def Joshua Van
Women's Flyweight: Jasmine Jasudavicius def Fatima Kline
Bantamweight: Montel Jackson def Da'Mon Blackshear
Women's Flyweight: Luana Santos def Mariya Agapova
Middleweight: Andre Petroski def Josh Fremd
Welterweight: Evan Elder def Darrius Flowers

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Quote from: cabron on July 13, 2024, 03:34:52 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 13, 2024, 01:35:59 PM

Imho, with Dagestani and Muslim religion, if a man made a word, he will lose tons of respect if he suddenly changes his mind. Khabib told that he has finished his career, and I think he wont ever return, not even in a exhibition fight. He will not be man of his word if he does. He will get so much hate from his own people. The only way he could get involved into a fight, someone touches his family. But that wont be a fight under any rules Cheesy

Khabib losing his assets I think is just like someone touches his family. Taking away what's supposedly for them. It's their culture though so I have no idea what things may mean to them. But in general, a man has to do things he may not like to provide for his family. The news is already widespread, I think the people will understand if he breaks his word.

Sports events today have to provide the most popular fighters to divert the people's attention and not focus on what the government is doing. I think Dana is even open to the idea of Jon Jones vs Francis Ngannou, I read a headline just today about this. PFL vs UFC will be bigger.

As mentioned in the news, his gym was raided as he is being tied to an extremist. We don't know his next plans owed to this development. But changing the mind of a fighter is not new in this sports and in the boxing as well. Do take note, some of the boxers who are already in retirement will get out of retirement to fight one more match.

Khabib’s gym raided after terror attack: here’s what you need to know

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 13, 2024, 01:35:59 PM

Imho, with Dagestani and Muslim religion, if a man made a word, he will lose tons of respect if he suddenly changes his mind. Khabib told that he has finished his career, and I think he wont ever return, not even in a exhibition fight. He will not be man of his word if he does. He will get so much hate from his own people. The only way he could get involved into a fight, someone touches his family. But that wont be a fight under any rules Cheesy

Khabib losing his assets I think is just like someone touches his family. Taking away what's supposedly for them. It's their culture though so I have no idea what things may mean to them. But in general, a man has to do things he may not like to provide for his family. The news is already widespread, I think the people will understand if he breaks his word.

Sports events today have to provide the most popular fighters to divert the people's attention and not focus on what the government is doing. I think Dana is even open to the idea of Jon Jones vs Francis Ngannou, I read a headline just today about this. PFL vs UFC will be bigger.

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Imho, with Dagestani and Muslim religion, if a man made a word, he will lose tons of respect if he suddenly changes his mind. Khabib told that he has finished his career, and I think he wont ever return, not even in a exhibition fight. He will not be man of his word if he does. He will get so much hate from his own people. The only way he could get involved into a fight, someone touches his family. But that wont be a fight under any rules Cheesy

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So finally we're just around 9 hours before the event starts. The weigh ins are in and it's good to see that everybody made weight. There was a close call on Cortez tho as she was .5 lbs over the limit. She went back stage, chopped some hair off, went on the scale and made weight. Grin

Here are the weigh ins.

Rose Namajunas (124.75) vs Tracy Cortez (126)
Santiago Ponzinibbio (171) vs Muslim Salikhov (171)
Drew Dober (155) vs Jean Silva (155)
Gabriel Bonfim (171) vs Ange Loosa (170)
Julian Erosa (145.5) vs Christian Rodriguez (145.5)
Abdul Razak Alhassan (185) vs Cody Brundage (185.5)
Charles Johnson (125.5) vs Joshua Van (125)
Jasmine Jasudavicius (125) vs Fatima Kline (125)
Da’Mon Blackshear (135.5) vs Montel Jackson (135)
Mariya Agapova (125) vs Luana Santos (125)
Josh Fremd (186) vs Andre Petroski (185.5)
Evan Elder (170) vs Darrius Flowers (170)

Here are the vids. I feel like Charles Johnson is gonna win. Dunno tho...

UFC Fight Night: Namajunas vs Cortez Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M2p4hPDFHw

UFC Fight Night: Namajunas vs Cortez Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AheZYJ8bDw

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 13, 2024, 02:55:52 AM

(...) Also, Khabib is not very fat if you compare his body to his father. He is not a round pound. I am quite certain Khabib can fight in welterweight and he will be comfortable in this weight division. It will also be the same for Conor.
(...)

And let's not forget Khabib is only 35 years old, so the same age as Poirier or Gaethje and younger than e.g. Chandler, Usman, Belal, or Covington.
He could easily drop to even 155 if given enough time (Conor probably wouldn't though).
From what I know, he stayed reasonably active and didn't let himself go too much.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 11, 2024, 05:29:20 AM

If Khabib ever wants to return to MMA, he will get back as a coach. I think that extra weight he has got now is hereditary. His father wasnt slim either. And the body, after years of training and cutting, I think it is relaxing and protesting to get back in shape Cheesy

I dont know how much you get media information about Khabibs life on your language or in English for example. But among Russian speaking we have tons about him. His popularity is on such huge level, that even if all of his funds are frozen, for many it will be an honour to help or support him. Besides, he is great relationships with sheikhs. He can be someone's friendly coach, so he and several next of his family generations will be provided with everything.

Similar to these boxing events that were arranged and managed in Saudi Arabia with very large purses from the Saudi prince, I reckon this would certainly be very good for Khabib vs. Conor if the sheiks will also support a MMA event that is not under the organization of uncle Dana. Also, Khabib is not very fat if you compare his body to his father. He is not a round pound. I am quite certain Khabib can fight in welterweight and he will be comfortable in this weight division. It will also be the same for Conor.

Quote from: TopTort777 on July 12, 2024, 02:22:48 AM

Again discussing possible McGregor fight Cheesy

I highly believe that he will never ever return to a professional fighting sport. I have never seen anyone return from a leg injury the same as he was before, and perform on high level. If it isnt joints, but a bone crack, forget about sport. Biggest example - Anderson Silva. After that leg break, he has retired. As to Conor. Why would he even continue fighting. He has got money, fame, business, family. If he wants to fight that much, pay sparring partners and beat them. No need to cut weight and push yourself hard Cheesy

If there some fights in his contract, I think he is able to buy out himself from UFC Cheesy

However, if the opponent is Khabib, I am quite very much certain if Conor had a broken leg, he will use this and kick Khabib. Conor has a different type of hatefulness against Khabib. He will accept the fight.

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Nobody's really interested in betting at this weekend's event eh? Lolol. Cheesy

Seems like McGregor is still in the news... And like what TopTort said, I don't think he's going back in the cage. I mean why would he? He prolly thinks he misses the game but then when it's time to fight, he flakes out.

Anyway, here are more vids to watch. Enjoy... Cheesy

UFC Free Fight: Namajunas vs JJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIcZaxVXgpY

UFC Free Fight: Bonfim vs Giles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4_MGeJFXGY

UFC Free Fight: Santos vs Miller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RzxJh3sD0U

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Again discussing possible McGregor fight Cheesy

I highly believe that he will never ever return to a professional fighting sport. I have never seen anyone return from a leg injury the same as he was before, and perform on high level. If it isnt joints, but a bone crack, forget about sport. Biggest example - Anderson Silva. After that leg break, he has retired. As to Conor. Why would he even continue fighting. He has got money, fame, business, family. If he wants to fight that much, pay sparring partners and beat them. No need to cut weight and push yourself hard Cheesy

If there some fights in his contract, I think he is able to buy out himself from UFC Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 11, 2024, 05:29:20 AM

If Khabib ever wants to return to MMA, he will get back as a coach. I think that extra weight he has got now is hereditary. His father wasnt slim either. And the body, after years of training and cutting, I think it is relaxing and protesting to get back in shape Cheesy

I dont know how much you get media information about Khabibs life on your language or in English for example. But among Russian speaking we have tons about him. His popularity is on such huge level, that even if all of his funds are frozen, for many it will be an honour to help or support him. Besides, he is great relationships with sheikhs. He can be someone's friendly coach, so he and several next of his family generations will be provided with everything.

That's all true, but I just can't imagine him accepting money for nothing or acting as a personal trainer to some rich kids. That's just not who he is.

Quote from: cabron on July 11, 2024, 01:32:37 PM

(...) They already tested the sales on Chandler, and there have been speculations money never flows and that they have to make a pinky accident to cancel the fight.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. There was almost no hype before the fight, or at least nothing was coming through to me. That's not what you'd expect from the great return of the most marketable MMA fighter of all time.
We all know Chandler would beat him easily, making it hard to sell any future fights. Pairing Conor up with some bigger name, or someone from a higher weight class (so he can have an excuse for losing) would make more sense.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on July 11, 2024, 11:39:48 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 10, 2024, 10:55:16 PM

He will not only be forced to come back from retirement. Who is the opponent for him who would give him a very big purse? I am quite certain everyone know this Irish MMA fighter who like to trashtalk in person and in social media heheheheh.

This will be the perfect setting for Khabib. He cannot anymore make the weight on lightweight because he is very fat. I reckon the situation is similar for Conor because he is lazy. They can fight on welterweight for the bad motherfucker belt hehehehehe.

Exactly!
Khabib would be much better option for McGregor than Chandler. The PPV sales would be incomparably higher, and losing to undefeated, legendary Khabib is much less shameful than losing to Chandler, who can put up a good show but lost to all the top guys.
There were some rumours of Chandler being offered to fight Islam, who is aiming to fight 3 times a year. If that was true and if Chandler was to accept the offer, Conor would be free. But if Chandler decides to keep on waiting, I don't think the UFC would match McGregor up with somebody else. That would be too cruel Cry

Very possible. McGregor would be delighted to lose against Khabib Grin

Not so embarrassing as someone like Chandler who would just kick his broken leg before tossing Conor up just to take him down.

Khabib might work this time too. They already tested the sales on Chandler, and there have been speculations money never flows and that they have to make a pinky accident to cancel the fight.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 10, 2024, 10:55:16 PM

He will not only be forced to come back from retirement. Who is the opponent for him who would give him a very big purse? I am quite certain everyone know this Irish MMA fighter who like to trashtalk in person and in social media heheheheh.

This will be the perfect setting for Khabib. He cannot anymore make the weight on lightweight because he is very fat. I reckon the situation is similar for Conor because he is lazy. They can fight on welterweight for the bad motherfucker belt hehehehehe.

Exactly!
Khabib would be much better option for McGregor than Chandler. The PPV sales would be incomparably higher, and losing to undefeated, legendary Khabib is much less shameful than losing to Chandler, who can put up a good show but lost to all the top guys.
There were some rumours of Chandler being offered to fight Islam, who is aiming to fight 3 times a year. If that was true and if Chandler was to accept the offer, Conor would be free. But if Chandler decides to keep on waiting, I don't think the UFC would match McGregor up with somebody else. That would be too cruel Cry

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^ That's already all known bud, but I appreciate the reiteration.

Anyway here are some fight replays that some of you might like before making your bets. Pretty important if you're into this whole betting in MMA thing and trying to actually win it.

UFC Free Fight: Salikhov vs Fialho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VphvJFyuIo4

UFC Free Fight: Ponz vs Morono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3FJrlnUvZk

UFC Free Fight: Cortez vs Jas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROcN0HXKRrE

UFC Free Fight: Namajunas vs Ribas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0GPOpFySbU

Enjoy...

And here's something for you guy to play with.

https://fightodds.io/mma-betting-tools/tape-study

It's a tape study matrix. You guys can look for the right match ups to watch depending on what kind of opponent a fighter is up against.

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Quote from: tokeweed on July 10, 2024, 07:26:56 AM

^ That means Jones needs to fight asap. He's been out of it for so long now and getting the risk of being stripped of his belt if he doesn't take a fight this year. There are more exciting match ups with Aspinall around anyway.

But yeah... We'll see what's gonna happen. But I gotta say Jones vs Stipe..? Not to excited about that one.

~snip~

If you look at the progress of the injury he previously experienced, he should be able to fight this year even though it is the end of the year, but there are no guarantees and it all comes back to Jones condition is whether he is really fit to fight.
Moreover, the injury problems he experienced also made him have to postpone the fight against Stipe and this should have been fight to defend the heavyweight title for Jones, if in the future that can still be done then I will also be quite happy because this is meeting of two monsters.

But there is another fighter, namely Tom Aspinall who is an interim heavyweight champion and of course Aspinall also has the desire to fight with Jones and fight for the championship title to determine who is the real champion.
Option of fight against Aspinall could happen if Jones manages to win over Stipe and decides to fight with Aspinall, but the news that has been circulating shows that Jones refuses to fight Aspinall.

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If Khabib ever wants to return to MMA, he will get back as a coach. I think that extra weight he has got now is hereditary. His father wasnt slim either. And the body, after years of training and cutting, I think it is relaxing and protesting to get back in shape Cheesy

I dont know how much you get media information about Khabibs life on your language or in English for example. But among Russian speaking we have tons about him. His popularity is on such huge level, that even if all of his funds are frozen, for many it will be an honour to help or support him. Besides, he is great relationships with sheikhs. He can be someone's friendly coach, so he and several next of his family generations will be provided with everything.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on July 04, 2024, 12:22:46 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on July 04, 2024, 07:06:43 AM

Lol did you watch it yet? Cheesy

So hilarious.

Yeah, the interview part was surprisingly calm and everyone was so nice and composed... and then the staredown happened Grin

Did you guys hear the news about Khabib fleeing Russia and getting his accounts frozen + business raided over the alleged $3 millon that he owed to Russian tax man?
Credit to notblox1 for bringing this up in the ALTT forum
Some links:

https://www.sportspolitika.news/p/ufc-khabib-nurmagomedov-politics-putin-mma-russi
https://www.marca.com/en/ufc/2024/07/01/6682d584e2704e395e8b458c.html
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/conor-mcgregor-alleges-khabib-nurmagomedov-is-in-dubai-following-russian-government-s-seizure-of-the-eagle-s-bank-accounts/ar-BB1pedqb

Damn, if he doesn't have a proper amount stashed in some safe place, who knows, he might be forced to come back from retirement and fight at least one more time.

He will not only be forced to come back from retirement. Who is the opponent for him who would give him a very big purse? I am quite certain everyone know this Irish MMA fighter who like to trashtalk in person and in social media heheheheh.

This will be the perfect setting for Khabib. He cannot anymore make the weight on lightweight because he is very fat. I reckon the situation is similar for Conor because he is lazy. They can fight on welterweight for the bad motherfucker belt hehehehehe.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 10, 2024, 04:27:28 AM

Pereira is not #2 in pound-for-pound ranking Cheesy

Bones is only third. Yesterday while watching YouTube, I have caught myself thinking where is Gane? He has started so active career. Every year he fought 2-3 times. Now, half of 2024 has passed and there is not even a single rumour about his next fight, not a single word. I dont remember him being injured or have controversies with UFC. Neither he wasnt released from UFC.

After the fight he lost to Jones, I think he fought one more time and has been gone since then. Maybe he is recovering mentally and improving even more. I hope he comes back soon, we need to move these categories.

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