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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 31, 2024, 06:02:55 AM

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Its Friday and it is time for a great story. Please sit down.

Story is how O'Malley beat Sterling. Dont know if you know it, but I just found it out. We remember how their fight was going as a usually fight, but then Sterling pushed forwards, O'Malley threw his straight and Sterling has self-destructed on it. So why Sterling all of a sudden jumped forward with strikes when he is more wrestler against a striker ? Because O'Malley coach went to Sterling corner and shouted "Aljo you gotta go" Cheesy

Lol, this is so hilarious. Aljo listened to a wrong guy and it cost him belt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ALIbRR_vjMk

Sterling is a wrestler so it's insane why he only tried taking down Sean when the 1st round is almost over. He didn't try harder to take him down; he just pressed Sean to the wall. The the second round he just lying down without trying to get up.

There must have been a verbal agreement for not taking down Sean. Somehow these fighters agree on something so they can fight. Ankalev gave his word not to take down Pereira just so he could have a title shot. I don't know what Sterling had to ask when he already had the belt before this fight. But that coach gotta be sanctioned for going to the other corner.

Merab taking down Sean right in the first round without lots of faking then this fight must be real and Sean is doomed to fail.

Do you believe in that verval agreements before the fight wheb the belt is on stake? I think as soon as fighters enter octagon, all agreements are over and it is me vs him plus tactics. Such verbal agreements are good for an excuses after fight. Personally, I would not agree to any verbal agreement, specially if they about my benefits over someone.

There have been rumors about it and it would mean a fixed fight but it is often just ignored since it really isn't said in a manner we hear it in movies. Well, everything is unbelievable until someone rats them. Didn't Mokaev said in one of his interviews that Dana ordered him not to take down or something? Ofc we discredit that claim because he's an asshole but I'm sure he wasn't the first to have said that.

Dyou think Shevchenko can win this time?
Diego Lopes should make it. I think he will.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 31, 2024, 06:15:33 AM

^ Ankalaev probably would. Lolol. And I think he also said that he'd only do it at R1. Which should really be in his game plan anyway... Ankalaev has mostly been a slow starter except for the matches against Walker.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 29, 2024, 04:46:12 AM

Speaking about Merab - have you seen his recent accident, when he has grabbed the fan by hair? The guy has been insulting and showing middle finger to Merab. Merab jumped over fence, went to this guy, took him by hair and asked not to do that again. Have you noticed how rude fighters became recently? Tsarukyan tried to hit one of spectators during walk in recently. In past such things happened once a few years, but today this is a second case in less than half a year.

You made me look it up. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DT1kQG_wnA

I was concerned he could be facing a few months' suspension similar to what Tsarukyan got for punching a fan, but it looked like Merab showed enough restraint at the end and didn't go too far with it. It was also almost 2 weeks ago (judging by the upload date) so if he was to get suspended, that would probably already have happened.

Regarding the upcoming fight night event, chat GPT Fight Analyst Advanced disagrees with bookies and favours Burns to win:

I agree with much of this data. However, we also need to consider each team's winning and losing streaks. However, in theory, Burns should win and is a good bet.

But you gotta look at the guys who Burns went on to lose to. They're some of top guys of the weight class who'd prolly do the same to Sean Brady imho. And losing the way he did vs Belal Muhammad... Not really a good look for sure.

The only thing holding a lot of people back for betting on Burns is his age. He's old now.

Oh and the match vs JDM, he was winning it if not for the dumb mistake in the scramble.

I agree, it's a great point. But even with these points that prevent me from investing in it, it still seems very correct to make this bet. I'm even waiting for the market to open for my bet on it.

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^ Ankalaev probably would. Lolol. And I think he also said that he'd only do it at R1. Which should really be in his game plan anyway... Ankalaev has mostly been a slow starter except for the matches against Walker.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 29, 2024, 04:46:12 AM

Speaking about Merab - have you seen his recent accident, when he has grabbed the fan by hair? The guy has been insulting and showing middle finger to Merab. Merab jumped over fence, went to this guy, took him by hair and asked not to do that again. Have you noticed how rude fighters became recently? Tsarukyan tried to hit one of spectators during walk in recently. In past such things happened once a few years, but today this is a second case in less than half a year.

You made me look it up. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DT1kQG_wnA

I was concerned he could be facing a few months' suspension similar to what Tsarukyan got for punching a fan, but it looked like Merab showed enough restraint at the end and didn't go too far with it. It was also almost 2 weeks ago (judging by the upload date) so if he was to get suspended, that would probably already have happened.

Regarding the upcoming fight night event, chat GPT Fight Analyst Advanced disagrees with bookies and favours Burns to win:

I agree with much of this data. However, we also need to consider each team's winning and losing streaks. However, in theory, Burns should win and is a good bet.

But you gotta look at the guys who Burns went on to lose to. They're some of top guys of the weight class who'd prolly do the same to Sean Brady imho. And losing the way he did vs Belal Muhammad... Not really a good look for sure.

The only thing holding a lot of people back for betting on Burns is his age. He's old now.

Oh and the match vs JDM, he was winning it if not for the dumb mistake in the scramble.

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Quote from: cabron on August 30, 2024, 10:47:48 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 30, 2024, 01:25:25 AM

Its Friday and it is time for a great story. Please sit down.

Story is how O'Malley beat Sterling. Dont know if you know it, but I just found it out. We remember how their fight was going as a usually fight, but then Sterling pushed forwards, O'Malley threw his straight and Sterling has self-destructed on it. So why Sterling all of a sudden jumped forward with strikes when he is more wrestler against a striker ? Because O'Malley coach went to Sterling corner and shouted "Aljo you gotta go" Cheesy

Lol, this is so hilarious. Aljo listened to a wrong guy and it cost him belt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ALIbRR_vjMk

Sterling is a wrestler so it's insane why he only tried taking down Sean when the 1st round is almost over. He didn't try harder to take him down; he just pressed Sean to the wall. The the second round he just lying down without trying to get up.

There must have been a verbal agreement for not taking down Sean. Somehow these fighters agree on something so they can fight. Ankalev gave his word not to take down Pereira just so he could have a title shot. I don't know what Sterling had to ask when he already had the belt before this fight. But that coach gotta be sanctioned for going to the other corner.

Merab taking down Sean right in the first round without lots of faking then this fight must be real and Sean is doomed to fail.

Do you believe in that verval agreements before the fight wheb the belt is on stake? I think as soon as fighters enter octagon, all agreements are over and it is me vs him plus tactics. Such verbal agreements are good for an excuses after fight. Personally, I would not agree to any verbal agreement, specially if they about my benefits over someone.

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Quote from: cabron on August 30, 2024, 10:47:48 AM

Sterling is a wrestler so it's insane why he only tried taking down Sean when the 1st round is almost over. He didn't try harder to take him down; he just pressed Sean to the wall. The the second round he just lying down without trying to get up.

There must have been a verbal agreement for not taking down Sean. Somehow these fighters agree on something so they can fight. Ankalev gave his word not to take down Pereira just so he could have a title shot. I don't know what Sterling had to ask when he already had the belt before this fight. But that coach gotta be sanctioned for going to the other corner.

Nah, that's a popular tactic for wrestlers Vs strikers fights. When the fight is scheduled for 5 rounds, there's no pressure to show all your cards in the first round. It makes sense for wrestlers to engage with striking, so their opponent starts to feel more comfortable and it's easier to shorten the distance. We saw it e.g. in Blachowicz Vs Adesanya fight when Jan was exchanging strikes for like 2 rounds before starting to shoot for takedowns. He admitted later in an interview that was his strategy.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 29, 2024, 04:41:22 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 29, 2024, 04:46:12 AM

Speaking about Merab - have you seen his recent accident, when he has grabbed the fan by hair? The guy has been insulting and showing middle finger to Merab. Merab jumped over fence, went to this guy, took him by hair and asked not to do that again. Have you noticed how rude fighters became recently? Tsarukyan tried to hit one of spectators during walk in recently. In past such things happened once a few years, but today this is a second case in less than half a year.

You made me look it up. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DT1kQG_wnA

I was concerned he could be facing a few months' suspension similar to what Tsarukyan got for punching a fan, but it looked like Merab showed enough restraint at the end and didn't go too far with it. It was also almost 2 weeks ago (judging by the upload date) so if he was to get suspended, that would probably already have happened.

Regarding the upcoming fight night event, chat GPT Fight Analyst Advanced disagrees with bookies and favours Burns to win:

I agree with much of this data. However, we also need to consider each team's winning and losing streaks. However, in theory, Burns should win and is a good bet.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 30, 2024, 01:25:25 AM

Its Friday and it is time for a great story. Please sit down.

Story is how O'Malley beat Sterling. Dont know if you know it, but I just found it out. We remember how their fight was going as a usually fight, but then Sterling pushed forwards, O'Malley threw his straight and Sterling has self-destructed on it. So why Sterling all of a sudden jumped forward with strikes when he is more wrestler against a striker ? Because O'Malley coach went to Sterling corner and shouted "Aljo you gotta go" Cheesy

Lol, this is so hilarious. Aljo listened to a wrong guy and it cost him belt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ALIbRR_vjMk

Sterling is a wrestler so it's insane why he only tried taking down Sean when the 1st round is almost over. He didn't try harder to take him down; he just pressed Sean to the wall. The the second round he just lying down without trying to get up.

There must have been a verbal agreement for not taking down Sean. Somehow these fighters agree on something so they can fight. Ankalev gave his word not to take down Pereira just so he could have a title shot. I don't know what Sterling had to ask when he already had the belt before this fight. But that coach gotta be sanctioned for going to the other corner.

Merab taking down Sean right in the first round without lots of faking then this fight must be real and Sean is doomed to fail.

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^ LOOOOOOLLL if that actually what got Sterling to push forward and strike. Cheesy

And another thing, I think the ref stopped the match a tad early. Sterling wasn't out and as it was a fight for the belt, he should've been given more time to recover. And if he did, who knows.. He might've had a chance.

I bet on Sterling with him at the top line of my parlay. That hurt a little. Not that it was gonna be a huge win or anything.. More like losing the final leg of the parlay sucks.

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Its Friday and it is time for a great story. Please sit down.

Story is how O'Malley beat Sterling. Dont know if you know it, but I just found it out. We remember how their fight was going as a usually fight, but then Sterling pushed forwards, O'Malley threw his straight and Sterling has self-destructed on it. So why Sterling all of a sudden jumped forward with strikes when he is more wrestler against a striker ? Because O'Malley coach went to Sterling corner and shouted "Aljo you gotta go" Cheesy

Lol, this is so hilarious. Aljo listened to a wrong guy and it cost him belt.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ALIbRR_vjMk

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 29, 2024, 04:44:48 PM

I’m surprised every time Suga wins but he keeps taking people out so I’m sure he’s capable of winning against Merab too. I think his length gives him a good advantage at his weight, but I don’t think he’s going to be able to keep fighting without moving up just due to age and muscle mass after years of training. Looking forward to seeing the fight.

O'Malley has a lot in common with Adesanya, both are great strikers and have a big height/reach advantage and can take advantage of it. But you can only go as far with a one-dimensional fighting style and eventually other fighters will find a way to get to you.
I think when O'Malley loses his first fight (not counting that loss to Vera as that was due to injury) things could go downhill from there.

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Quote from: cabron on August 28, 2024, 12:08:31 PM

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I don't see Merab's record as having lots of submissions in fact he just submitted 1 person who is an unknown Sukhrob Aydarbekov. But they are saying he can takedown but can't hold for long. For Suga to be the underdog in this match while he made 12 KO over 19 fights and Merab only has 3 KOs over 21 fights is an understatement. Idk they're tricking people. But maybe if Omalley has a great TDD like Aldo, the bookies may see Merab as the underdog. Sean has footwork though.

As far as I know Mehrab has a great cardio above the average fighter. That could be one of the indicators that Mehrab has an advantage in the fight. Maybe Mehrab's plan is to get O'Malley to wrestle as long as possible. Mehrab doesn't have a submission record in his career so I think Mehrab will wrestle O'Malley until he runs out of stamina. But we know O'Malley is a fighter with good footwork and has a KO record in his career. But Mehrab has a good chin. This game will be an advantage for O'Malley in the early rounds, and it will be a disaster for him if the fight goes more than three rounds, because Mehrab will be really terrible with his cardio.

I guess Omalley will just have to find his range in 3 rounds to strike hard with his long reach. He only needs a few good shots to hurt Merab.

Omalley lasted the 5 rounds with Vera which was a constant war inside the cage. So it might just be a fair fight unless he is takedown and held for a long time assuming he can defend himself on the ground. But I'm going to wager if Merab struggled to takedown Aldo, he will also find it hard with Omalley.

I’m surprised every time Suga wins but he keeps taking people out so I’m sure he’s capable of winning against Merab too. I think his length gives him a good advantage at his weight, but I don’t think he’s going to be able to keep fighting without moving up just due to age and muscle mass after years of training. Looking forward to seeing the fight.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 29, 2024, 04:46:12 AM

Speaking about Merab - have you seen his recent accident, when he has grabbed the fan by hair? The guy has been insulting and showing middle finger to Merab. Merab jumped over fence, went to this guy, took him by hair and asked not to do that again. Have you noticed how rude fighters became recently? Tsarukyan tried to hit one of spectators during walk in recently. In past such things happened once a few years, but today this is a second case in less than half a year.

You made me look it up. Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DT1kQG_wnA

I was concerned he could be facing a few months' suspension similar to what Tsarukyan got for punching a fan, but it looked like Merab showed enough restraint at the end and didn't go too far with it. It was also almost 2 weeks ago (judging by the upload date) so if he was to get suspended, that would probably already have happened.

Regarding the upcoming fight night event, chat GPT Fight Analyst Advanced disagrees with bookies and favours Burns to win:

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Quote from: pawel7777 on August 28, 2024, 11:33:46 AM

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(...) And have we seen O'Malley go all 5 rounds against somebody before?

Yup, we've seen going full 5 rounds in his last fight with Vera. But Vera and Dvalishvili do not represent the same style. Vera has bbj background and we all know that wrestling is much more effective when it comes to takedowns.
I find O'Malley a bit annoying and wouldn't mind seeing him losing to Merab, but just because he's a striker, doesn't mean he has no takedown defence and is clueless on the ground. He will be hard to keep down.
I expect Merab will be primarily focussed on not getting KO'ed and Sean on not getting taken down, so it might go to judges' decision where O'Malley will be more likely to win, as he'll probably land more strikes, plus him winning is better for the business (more marketable etc).

Ah yeah... The difference with Vera and Merab tho is Vera is low volume during the early rounds and he doesn't pressure his opponents that much or wrestle with them. O'Malley vs Dvalishvili, I did it, will be all pressure from Dvalishvili from the R1 to R5. O'Malley's cardio will be tested here unless he gets to throw that right straight to Merab's chin and KO's him... That's if he KO's Merab...

But yeah... Can't wait for 306.

Here's some replays.

UFC Free Fight: Dvalishvili vs Cejudo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sLhzR2FTE

UFC Free Fight: Grasso vs Shev 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhtRK15vc3o

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Speaking about Merab - have you seen his recent accident, when he has grabbed the fan by hair? The guy has been insulting and showing middle finger to Merab. Merab jumped over fence, went to this guy, took him by hair and asked not to do that again. Have you noticed how rude fighters became recently? Tsarukyan tried to hit one of spectators during walk in recently. In past such things happened once a few years, but today this is a second case in less than half a year.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on August 28, 2024, 07:07:21 AM

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I don't see Merab's record as having lots of submissions in fact he just submitted 1 person who is an unknown Sukhrob Aydarbekov. But they are saying he can takedown but can't hold for long. For Suga to be the underdog in this match while he made 12 KO over 19 fights and Merab only has 3 KOs over 21 fights is an understatement. Idk they're tricking people. But maybe if Omalley has a great TDD like Aldo, the bookies may see Merab as the underdog. Sean has footwork though.

As far as I know Mehrab has a great cardio above the average fighter. That could be one of the indicators that Mehrab has an advantage in the fight. Maybe Mehrab's plan is to get O'Malley to wrestle as long as possible. Mehrab doesn't have a submission record in his career so I think Mehrab will wrestle O'Malley until he runs out of stamina. But we know O'Malley is a fighter with good footwork and has a KO record in his career. But Mehrab has a good chin. This game will be an advantage for O'Malley in the early rounds, and it will be a disaster for him if the fight goes more than three rounds, because Mehrab will be really terrible with his cardio.

I guess Omalley will just have to find his range in 3 rounds to strike hard with his long reach. He only needs a few good shots to hurt Merab.

Omalley lasted the 5 rounds with Vera which was a constant war inside the cage. So it might just be a fair fight unless he is takedown and held for a long time assuming he can defend himself on the ground. But I'm going to wager if Merab struggled to takedown Aldo, he will also find it hard with Omalley.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 28, 2024, 06:46:00 AM

(...) And have we seen O'Malley go all 5 rounds against somebody before?

Yup, we've seen going full 5 rounds in his last fight with Vera. But Vera and Dvalishvili do not represent the same style. Vera has bbj background and we all know that wrestling is much more effective when it comes to takedowns.
I find O'Malley a bit annoying and wouldn't mind seeing him losing to Merab, but just because he's a striker, doesn't mean he has no takedown defence and is clueless on the ground. He will be hard to keep down.
I expect Merab will be primarily focussed on not getting KO'ed and Sean on not getting taken down, so it might go to judges' decision where O'Malley will be more likely to win, as he'll probably land more strikes, plus him winning is better for the business (more marketable etc).

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 28, 2024, 06:46:00 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 27, 2024, 06:47:55 AM

So potentially we will have a new champ of bantamweight in 3 weeks Cheesy

So not only Merab would have taken Seans cool jacket, but the belt also Cheesy

Probably going to take pants or shoes in a rematch to collect whole set. However, the fact that Merab barely finishes his opponents might play bad for him. It will be decision win on one part of scale, and hype of O'Malley + current champ status on the other. Dont know which part will be heavier for UFC Cheesy

But then again Merab... I'll start calling him Merab his last name Dvalishvigfjfk is too damn hard to spell. Lol. So yeah Merab, even though his fights go the distance he controls them for most of the rounds. I'm on the other side. I think it won't be good for O'Malley the longer the fight goes. And have we seen O'Malley go all 5 rounds against somebody before? Keep in mind that Merab is a cardio machine. He doesn't get tired easily.

O'Malley is a good fighter but let's see if he's that good. Will be rooting for O'Malley but there isn't enough meat on the bone go justify a big bet.

Yeap, I also think that the longer the fight goes, the worst it will be for O'Malley. If it goes full distance, we can already count that 4th and 5th rounds will be in Dvalishvili (see, its easy, but as I am lazy, Merab is much better:D) favour. I dont remember Merab vs Yan fight, it was also a 25min fight. If Merab was ready for Yan, he is definitely ready for O'Malley. A good punch in first or second round by O'Malley, or Merab by UD. That is how I see it.

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Quote from: Pumared on August 27, 2024, 01:32:50 PM

From what I've researched, the next UFC fight is on September 7th, right? And it will be Burns' fight.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Brazilian fight again. The last fight I saw, he ended up hurting his arm or something like that and it wasn't as good as expected.

Burns vs Brady will be fight for the main card and indeed this is an opportunity for Burns to be able to get back to winning ways after two consecutive defeats, Burns return is also quite anticipated by UFC fans.
It just that Brady is also not fighter who can be underestimated, he has advantages in several things including basic wrestling which can be very helpful in making it difficult for Burns in the fight that will be held on September 8.
This will be very important fight for Burns because he must win this fight if he wants to get another chance to fight for the title.
If Burns can win, maybe it will only be decision victory.

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Quote from: cabron on August 27, 2024, 09:32:26 AM

I don't see Merab's record as having lots of submissions in fact he just submitted 1 person who is an unknown Sukhrob Aydarbekov. But they are saying he can takedown but can't hold for long. For Suga to be the underdog in this match while he made 12 KO over 19 fights and Merab only has 3 KOs over 21 fights is an understatement. Idk they're tricking people. But maybe if Omalley has a great TDD like Aldo, the bookies may see Merab as the underdog. Sean has footwork though.

As far as I know Mehrab has a great cardio above the average fighter. That could be one of the indicators that Mehrab has an advantage in the fight. Maybe Mehrab's plan is to get O'Malley to wrestle as long as possible. Mehrab doesn't have a submission record in his career so I think Mehrab will wrestle O'Malley until he runs out of stamina. But we know O'Malley is a fighter with good footwork and has a KO record in his career. But Mehrab has a good chin. This game will be an advantage for O'Malley in the early rounds, and it will be a disaster for him if the fight goes more than three rounds, because Mehrab will be really terrible with his cardio.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 27, 2024, 06:47:55 AM

So potentially we will have a new champ of bantamweight in 3 weeks Cheesy

So not only Merab would have taken Seans cool jacket, but the belt also Cheesy

Probably going to take pants or shoes in a rematch to collect whole set. However, the fact that Merab barely finishes his opponents might play bad for him. It will be decision win on one part of scale, and hype of O'Malley + current champ status on the other. Dont know which part will be heavier for UFC Cheesy

But then again Merab... I'll start calling him Merab his last name Dvalishvigfjfk is too damn hard to spell. Lol. So yeah Merab, even though his fights go the distance he controls them for most of the rounds. I'm on the other side. I think it won't be good for O'Malley the longer the fight goes. And have we seen O'Malley go all 5 rounds against somebody before? Keep in mind that Merab is a cardio machine. He doesn't get tired easily.

O'Malley is a good fighter but let's see if he's that good. Will be rooting for O'Malley but there isn't enough meat on the bone go justify a big bet.

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