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Here is my pick for the UFC 274

Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje

I really know how awful it is for Oliveira to fight right now because of what happened at the weigh-in, he got stripped of his belt pretty much it is unfortunate and it was his unlucky day for something like this to happen, but for me even though there is a lot going up on his mind right now it doesn't mean that he would slack off from his fight, I think he Charles Oliveira will be in his 100% form, in my opinion, Oliveira can surely finish this in whatever fashion he like Justin Gaethje will be slick with his stand-off fight, and Oliveira needs to really move his head for Gaethje jabs, and because Oliveira doesn't have a good chin, but Oliveira's advantage on this was his reach and he needs to stay on that reach and pressure Gaethje with it, and there is a tendency that Justin Gaethje can lose his focus and may get away from Oliveira's strikes this could be an opportunity for Oliveira in getting on his takedown that is why my pick is still Charles Oliveira.

Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza

Wow! look at Rose Namajunas Height on Carla Esparza on the weight in, height and reach advantage pretty much Namajunas can just stay on that reach and give Esparza a hard time with strikes, we can all agree that a win from Zhang Weili is not a fluke it is really well executed by her, and even though Rose Namajunas is in an advantage over Esparza I think she will not underestimate her opponent and could take a technical approach towards her, so my pick will be Rose Namajunas.

Michael Chandler VS Tony Ferguson

Looks like age has given Tony Ferguson a makeover, he looks tired and weak on that picture, or that picture was only a setup so Chandler would lower his guard down, I really wish that Chandler would not give Ferguson a handicap, just because he is retiring from the UFC, I really want Chandler to give him a great fight that he can remember even though it is a lost remark, a great fight is what Tony Ferguson would want, and I really think that Chandler is in his top shape so my pick will be Michael Chandler.

^  A case could be made for Oliveira now as there's value going in for him from being a big favorite to just a slight favorite.  But yeah, I still think he's the pie shitter of the event.  I just feel like Gaethje throw an uppercut in there and knock Oliveira out.  The guy is kinda chinny...  He was dropped by Poirier and Chandler before that.  Gaethje could do it too.  Not too confident tho.  I put him at my bottom ticket.

Here were the weigh in results.

Charles Oliveira (155.5)* vs Justin Gaethje (155)
Rose Namajunas (115) vs Carla Esparza (115)
Michael Chandler (156) vs Tony Ferguson (155.5)
Mauricio Rua (205.5) vs Ovince Saint Preux (205)
Donald Cerrone (155.5) vs Joe Lauzon (155.5)
Andre Fialho (170.5) vs Cameron VanCamp (170)
Randy Brown (170.5) vs Khaos Williams (170)
Macy Chiasson (145.5) vs Norma Dumont (146.5)*
Brandon Royval (125.5) vs Matt Schnell (125.5)
Blagoy Ivanov (253.5) vs Marcos Rogerio de Lima (258.5)
Danny Roberts (170.5) vs Francisco Trinaldo (170.5)
Tracy Cortez (125.5) vs Melissa Gatto (125)
Kleydson Rodrigues (125.5) vs CJ Vergara (126)
Ariane Carnelossi (115.5) vs Loopy Godinez (115)
Fernie Garcia (135.5) vs Journey Newson (135.5)

*Missed weight

Anyway, it's a good thing the main event is still on.  It would suck for the fans who already paid for their tickets, PPV's and those who made the trip to Arizona.  If both fighters want to fight then they should fight.  I just wanna make my bet and watch them sling leather.

Right, my predictions:

Justin Gaethje (I fancied him before all of this missing weight, so I'm sticking with it)
Carla Esparza (Changing it, this is what I was originally going to bet anyhow)
Michael Chandler (Probably my most confident pick of the night)
Ovince St. Preux
Joe Lauzon
Andre Fialho
Randy Brown
Norma Dumont
Brandon Royval
Blagoy Ivanov
Francisco Trinaldo
Tracy Cortez
Kleydson Rodrigues
Lupita Godinez
Fernie Garcia

I've got Justin, OSP, Chandler, Fialho, and Brandon Royval on a rather large accumulator, along with some football. Those are probably my most confident picks of the night. OSP being the lesser confident of the bunch. Along with Justin obviously, since that's going to be a close fight.


Yeah, I took a look, this is the first time this has happened apparently, that''s probably why I couldn't recall it happening. There's a conspiracy theory going on, that the weighing scales were inaccurate, that to be honest I don't there's much weight behind that accusation.

Is that the champion mindset Oliveira has been talking about? XD Anyway, I don't think this makes Olive's will to fight and win, less, I would reckon it actually fires him up even more as he wants to prove himself and say that this was more of an error of judgment than an issue of him being the champion in the first place. As for Justin, nothing changes for him, he still can win it the same as he could have won it earlier.

Oliveira has one of the best boxing and added to that his Jiu-Jitsu is something fighters don't want to ignore, and even Justin Gaethje will surely have trouble dealing with fighters that finish the fight on the ground, but I think the reach advantage of Charles Oliviera can be a big factor here and he just needs to stay on his range and doesn't need to be crazy
 with pressure, Gaethje can have that advantage, and the tendency for Justin Gaethje to lose to Oliveira is if he losses posture that would surely create an opening for Oliveira to slip a takedown,


I feel the same too, I am not a fan of Tony Ferguson, but I am really saddened about this picture, struggling to be the best in his career, but ending up not being on the top, I really think it is time for him to settle down and move on and try other careers, he can surely teach younger kids to be fit and open up his own gym, train younger generations on what he has learned on the UFC, he can surely do that, but I feel sad that he doesn't reach his goals on the UFC, but happy that he will have rest, but to find peace is for him to uncover, it will surely take time, but I will really miss that there was once a Tony Ferguson, that becomes a Legend inside the Octagon.


This must be so frustrating for Charles Oliveira, when he is up on the weighing scale he is pretty much confident that he made the weight but unfortunately after the judge has said that he didn't make it, It was a frustrating and curious Oliveira, fighting Justin Gaethje could have no drive anymore, he might be thinking what is the purposed of this fight, he was stripped of his belt and not a champion anymore, even if Oliveira win this fight he isn't champion anyone, he needs to win another fight just be to champion again, now many are really doubting Oliveira now, there are many things on his head that could cause him to lose on this fight, and the first champion to be stripped of the belt because he missed weight in.

How can this be real? You go to sleep with right weight, wake up being heavier? What can happen to organizm, that made it gain? How can he was not able to cut half pound? Cut hair, spit in a glass, cut nails, take out few teeth  Ive read he was given 2h to cut these half pound. Plenty of time for sauna.

It appears this weight issue for Charlie Olives is causing many people to doubt him hehehe. He did not have a weight issue. In an interview after his weigh in he said he went to sleep with the right weight, however, he woke up 0.5 pounds overweight and he cannot reduce it back to 155 pounds. He was not dehydrated, I reckon. I predict Charlie Olives will submit Justin Gaethje with rear naked choke hehehe.

Gaethji will be holding a “fake” belt, if he wins, and would have to win somebody to make his belt legit. I think it will end like this.

Or, UFC would organize a fake title fight for Conor, then they would pray he would win and defend it. Imagine what money boost would UFC get, if Conor would be champ again.

Sad news. Damn the fight still is scheduled. The thing is that if Olivera wins, he still won't get the belt but if Justin wins, he could get the belt. That's a fuckedup situation. This is not the first time Olivera has not achieve the weight though. This is a penalty however is just too  much. He has to restart again to win the belt, its becoming hard to  be champ seem designed to also mess current champs.

It hasn't happened in the history of UFC towards a title holder.
Happened in a fight a few months back but it was within the allowed weight for a non-title holder. And another fight before that, from the R&D of the UFC.
But for any championship they have zero let on the subject of weight.

Should make for an interesting ceremonial weigh-in happening in about 15 minutes.

No I don't think I ever saw anything like this happening before.
I am looking at odds now on Sportsbet and Oliveira is still favorite but odds is going up on him, and I think he is going to win because money is still involved and maybe he won't have so much pressure and he will be angry
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-274-oliveira-vs-gaethje/oliveira-charles-vs-gaethje-justin-62277e741f85c703d2b5b5f9

I can't recall the last two fighters that this happened too, anyone remember? I honestly believe lumping on Justin now to win, is probably a good idea. Since, he's going to be raring to go since he can still win it, while Olivera will be feeling a little bit disappointed, and knowing he can't win that belt on the night is going to demotivate him even further than he already is. You've got to feel for him though, missing out by half a pound, and being stripped of something he has already defended once, right?

Justin it is, I'm wondering how this might effect the odds going into the night. Might get a bet in early if they haven't changed too much.

I am reading the news now and I can't believe what happened.
Oliveira should take this weight cutting more seriously for every fight and more in championship title fight, but I never like how UFC is doing this weight cuts.
They allowed him to fight because they don't want to lose money from pay per view and ticket sales, we know Dana likes money above all things.

Oliveira missed weight by 0.5 pound so he has been stripped of the title. So if he wins he has to fight for the belt.
Who does he need to fight so to get that shot at it again?
This is very strange. Cause they allow him to fight even without the title to contend with.

^  Def the winner of Makhachev vs Dariush.  But let's face it, it's gonna be the Khabib protege.  It's going to be a good match up with both negating each other's skills.


Uh...  -_-  Jfc I got Namajunas in my second from the top ticket...  I wouldn't give your post much weight if you didn't get the Yan vs Sterling match right to the dot.  It was a co main event too.  Lmao.  It could be a sign.  But we'll see.  I think Namajunas has improved by a lot more than Esparza since the loss.

Anyway, here's the live weigh in show in case you guys have nothing better to do.

UFC 274:  Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp99zaOTQwU

Oliveira and Gaethji shook hands at faceoff. I am impressed. No hate between two fighters. Rare to see such in title fight. Second title defence for Oliveira, second attempt to get a belt from Gaethji. Interesting.

If Oliveira wins, we are going to see Gaethji vs Poirier winner meets winner of Makhachev vs Dariush?

Just notice, why Dariush is so high in top? He beat Ferguson last year, fought Ferreira same year, who is top15. Did not face anyone from top before that

I'm actually not a big fan of thug rose, probably due to not being American, and she's quite a heavy favourite over there. However, I'm going for her on my predictions simply because I believe the momentum she has, might just be enough to get her the win.

Whereas, my predictions which I'll post up tonight I'll probably include a note, that I'll actually be putting Carla on my betting slip, since I believe she more, than enough has what it takes, and the odds are looking rather tasty from a betting perspective. Carla isn't any slog on the feet either in my opinion, could be a decent match up, and a challenging night for both ladies.

Agreed. It certainly appears that uncle Dana is only offering him more fights because of his name. He will continue to do this until the fans are not happy to watch him anymore. Uncle Dana is very cruel hehehe.

It also appears that there is again another very underestimated fighter hehehe. Everyone is cheering for Thug Rose, however, we have forgotten that the wrestler Carla Esparza has defeated thug Rose before. This was many years ago and there might be improvements on Rose, however, we have witnessed during Rose vs. Weili that there might not be improvements in wrestling for Rose. Weili made 5 takedowns during that fight. Carla Esparza might make more takedowns and have more time in controlling Rose on the ground.

This is a good card, and I haven't seen many getting hyped up for it. Is this event being slept on? There's some awesome fights, even if they're a tad unbalanced. I think the main event speaks  for itself, but the Ferguson fight despite probably going to be utter domination, has that sparkle in the eye for being an absolute war. Chandler is capable of a war, and Ferguson almost always puts on a war, mainly because the dude doesn't care much about defense .

If anyone else needs any more motivation to fade these predictions, I too have the majority of the same picks. I'll be getting mine up either later tonight or tomorrow, but I've got Royval, Chandler, Ivanov, Namajunas, Lauzon, Ovince Saint Preux and Gaethje. I'm still deciding on a few of the other fights.

There is an interesting fight in main event - veteran Maurício Rua (famous for stomp and soccer kicks during Pride) against Ovince Saint Preux (dont really know who he is). Shogun used have 3-4 fights per year, now he is more on the bench. Another talented fighter whose era is about to end.

P.S. This is a rematch. In their first fight in 2014 it took Preux 34 seconds to knock Shogun out. Expect same outcome this Sunday