Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 327. (Read 97174 times)

There's also a boxing prediction contest too which looks like a big event in its own right.  I hope the UFC won't be live while the boxing match is happening.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-canelo-vs-bivol-prediction-contest-saturday-5397177

For the Multi Master I picked Oliveira but for this event's lottery ticket I got Gaethje.  Dunno..  It feels like Gaethje is gonna catch Oliveira clean on the chin and knock him out.

Here are my lottery tickets...

Fialho - Royval - Chandler at 2.16:  10 USD
Add:  Ivanov - Namajunas - OSP at 7.13:  5 USD
Add:  Dumont - Brown at 20.53:  2 USD
Add:  Godinez - Rodrigues - Roberts at 81.66:  2 USD
Add:  Lauzon - Gatto - Garcia at 846.87:  1 USD
Add:  Gaethje at 2108.72:  1 USD

Follow or fade but just a little warning...  I lost for two straight events now.  So it's better to fade.  

Press conference in 10 hours or so...  Should be fun.

UFC 274:  Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sl36zdb9co

Tony looks sad because of missing opportunities. He has been a marvellous fighter, but due to controversies with UFC (I remember he had hard times with Dana), he was either inactive for a long period or got opponents that he did not really want or victory over them did not give him much. How many times he had fights against Khabib cancelled? 3?

Or, he might be very tired due to weight cutting before this photo set. Or due to all these strikes to the face, he looks older than he really is.

I have sympathy to Tony, he is way better and interesting fighter than others in rooster. With his "ready to die in octagon", I feel really pity every time I see his bloody face in octagon.

Yup, and that organization would be BKFC Maybe Eagle would be putting up some interest for him, but PFL has a way too much strong competition and for some reason, Bellator and ONE are just not on the radar for most ex-UFC fighters. 


I'll say it again, I think that whatever Justin does god, Olives does better (except for the knocking out part itself), and not only am I not counting him out, I actually think he will win this. Justin will have issues when the distance is closed for some dirty boxing that Oliveira likes to implement, grappling will be on Oliv's side and even some decent striking could be up to par with Justins.

Yeah, I think he has a chin, I mean the way he fights means if he didn't have a chin, he wouldn't have been champion anytime soon. So, by me saying he's a little chinny, maybe the opposite is true; he just leaves himself so exposed at times, it seems like he might be a little chinny, but ultimately he's very good at surviving those moments. Having said that, I do see him getting rocked at least once against Justin like I said. I rewatched the Poirier vs Justin fight the other night just for comparison. Both ultimately got rocked a few times.

I'm feeling a Chandler decision to be honest, despite the odds against it. Tony knows how to survive, and while he has been stopped more recently, I'm not sure if Chandler will have the power. He definitely does have the constant pressure though, so it's a risky bet, but with the odds right now a favourable one.

Maybe not the same but he's got chin too. Looking back at his first title defense, Charles has taken some clean shots from Dustin.

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I'm just going for gut feel this time and throw some money on Tony Ferguson @3.6 If he could survive the first two rounds without taking serious damage, he should be fine. I think he's got better cardio and he could capitalize on that in the later rounds.

Well, I might have said that I want Tony Ferguson to win this so his farewell fight would be a great remembrance for him, but basically, after seeing Michael Chandler over Tony Ferguson's latest pictures, I am seeing a Chandler win aswell, Tony's pictures seem ready to retire from the sports I don't see any heavy lifting and such and seems tired of this all, while Chandler is a bit look excited in what may happen inside the Octagon and pretty much he is ready to do it, Michael Chandler doesn't have the wrestling quality of Khabib Nurmagomenodov, but I really think he can out wrestle Ferguson.


That is a guy who is ready to retire, I don't see any passion anymore and he already knows that this is his last fight, that is why I really don't expect much from him, I will surely bet for Chandler if this is what I am seeing on Tony Ferguson's side, but my main focus will be on Charles Oliveira vs Justin Gaethje, and with the woman's strawweight Rose Namajunas vs Carla Esparza I will surely give my picks later,

I personally won't be reading much into this. Although, I don't expect Ferguson to win in the first place, so there's that. However, this might just be one of those things in the contract where they have to pose for a picture, and post it to their social media. A lot of the fighters aren't to keen on doing things like this for the media, obviously there are those that thrive on it, but Ferguson doesn't really strike me as one of them, and never has. Whereas, Chandler does like to play up to the camera a little more.

Again, wouldn't let this influence me on betting.

I do believe Chandler will win against Tony Ferguson, but I think this odds are just not right.
Ferguson is always serious, he doesn't smile much before matches, and he is not going to give up easy.
I am predicting this to be long distance fight and it will go all three rounds, and this is best bet in this fight.

UFC 274 Multi Master Challenge competition is now available, and you can make predictions and win free bets from Sportsbet:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-274-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5397178

Check out recent Tony Ferguson photo few days before fight against Chandler. You know what I dont like about this picture ? There are no sparkles in Tony's eyes (and there are lots of pictures of smiling Chandler in UFC instagram). He looks old, and tired. I dont know how is he going to win with such attitude. I expect a hard beating for Tony. It will be hard to watch, as he wont tap.

Yeah, I agree to an extent, but we'll probably see Tony looking to stand up, and Chandler will mix it up like he usually does. Chandler wins fights via pressure, constant pressure. I don't expect anything different so while he will definitely be looking for the knockout, he'll be shooting for take downs, and there will likely be a bit of grappling mixed in.

I can see Tony going to another organisation if the UFC aren't willing to offer him another contract, which I do doubt. Think he probably still has some fights in him, despite his dwindling ability, and obviously his age catching up with him. He just comes across as a man that loves the sport, and will probably be doing it for much longer than he really should be.

Ultimately, for this fight I don't see anything, but a Chandler win.

Both do have a wrestling background but they prefer using strikes, I really think they only used those takedowns when the opponent got an upper hand in striking, but even though they don't usually use those ground moves, they surely can win via submission, so both must look out for those takedowns, and if this is a farewell fight for Tony Ferguson, then Tony must win this so he can have a good time moving on to other stuff, Ferguson is recently active his last fight and that is May 15, 2021, while Chandler November 6, 2021,  so I guess Michael Chandler needs to familiarize again but judging from Chandler I really think he doesn't need those kind of things, well this is a very interesting fight and I will look for further details on their old fights.


That is for sure, Khabib is genuine in my opinion, while I really don't want to compare them because they are not similar, well, Charles Oliveira is not looking tough anymore, not like in his recent years, but he can still execute pretty much crazy stunt to pull off a submission because his opponent pretty much has the advantage when it comes to striking, but Justin Gaethje is pretty much good at knocking out his opponent or he can also go the distance from round 4 to 5, and win it by decision, but I would not underestimate Charles Oliveira just yet, 

If we look at the Poirier vs Justin fight, that was also a very close fight despite Poirier getting the win. Poirier was rocked a few times, and I'm not sure if Olivera has the chin that Poirier does. Also, I do think Justin has improved since, and will be looking to prove that this event. Olivera only chance of surviving would be going for the take down as soon as he's hurt, I don't see him not getting hurt at least once in this fight, and it all depends on how he manages that. If he doesn't deal with it well, i.e go for the take down, then I'd say that's game over. The thing with Poirier, he was willing to take the shots, and also swang, and bang, which lead to a bit of a stalemate, Olivera doesn't do that as much, at least not with the same amount of threat.

It'll be interesting, he haven't seen Justin dominated on the ground except for Khabib. So, whoever wins this fight, their stock increases I think. Olivera less so, obviously.

Oliveira sure isn't Khabib, you'll never see him blast a double leg from the middle of the octagon I'd say Olivs was more chinny a couple of years ago than he is now, but even looking to his last losses, he hasn't had any KOs or TKOs that we would consider to be due to a glass jaw (the Felder's elbows are not something Geathje can pull of and before that, it was just a matter of getting rocked), so while that might be a concern, I wouldn't say that's the biggest factor.

What about Chandler vs Ferguson fight? A farewell fight for Tony? He has not won since 2019. 3 straight losses and his opponent is one of the toughest in division. On the other hand, Chandler is not in a better position. 2 losses in a row. People make fun buy saying that he has more kids than wins in UFC lol (he has adopted new kid two weeks ago).

I always find it strange, that Chandler has wrestling background, but prefers to exchange strikes. Tony is also a fan of using such tactics. If there will be a possibility to bet on Ferguson face to be a bloody mess, I would bet and win this bet this weekend.

This could also be set up by his coach and people on his team, what is the best plan they can take against Collier, I think he only made a decision to follow their plan, and sometimes age doesn't really matter in some situations, but it will always be seen on his performance if their age is catching up to them if they can really still able to fight to younger guys,


Oh sorry I think I made a mistake when saying that three judges have scored for Arlovski but it was a split decision, but again may have typed or read it wrong,


I am sure glad this fight is on the weekend it is like I am waiting for a much-awaited event to come and all we have is just an appetizer, but this time we can have the main course, and Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje is a fresh of breath air that I think many are anticipating and I really think Oliveira has the experience to cut off Gaethje, but Justin is not going to back down from this in my opinion,

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Apart from the Oliveira VS Gaethje fight the Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza was another I like to see and Namajunas, in my opinion, has changed the way a woman has a fight I see more technicality to every win Namajunas have, and we can see if she isn't a fluke and if she can pull a win just like she did with the Zhang Weili fight.

Glad to see I'm not the only crazy bastard thinking Justin could actually take this one. I'd definitely say he isn't the favourite, but I don't know I have a good feeling, and the odds are looking tasty.

Yeah, I'm not sure. To be honest, I don't think it has effected him much up until this point, but only he really knows that. I don't think his defensive ability is because of lack of seeing the punches, but rather the way he sets himself up, and of course the rushed, and hectic nature he tends to go into the takedowns with.

They have many lost fights as well, and this will show up much more as they get older in their joints and brains.
I think that Khabib did a right thing when he quit on top, not that anyone was near of seriously hurting him like those guys.
Cowboy has interesting fights but guy won only one time in last nine fights, and I don't know how long Dana will keep him in UFC if he loses again this weekend.

I just watched the Countdown show for 274.  Why do I think Trevor Whitman could get Gaethje to win vs Oliveira.  I mean with Oliveira close to being starched by Chandler then Poirier after that, I think Gaethje could get the job done.  That chin has to give in at some point.  And Chute Boxe is known for hard sparring and having their guys conucssed at times.

Anyway get hyped.  Watch Countdown and enjoy. 

UFC 274:  Countdown - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCbxhAAz48

The parallel with Khabib was that he is not afraid of ground game and in fact, prefers that. He uses muay thai stance (his legs are close, he does not stand wide), he uses front leg as a jab (that is not Khabib) = he is not afraid to be taken down. Instead, he prefers to be taken down, as he could use his favourite guillotine. He is like Khabib, pushing forward with strikes, with a wish to turn the game to ground or get behind. Despite eating lots of punches with face


What about Oliveiras poor eyesight. Does interfere him much? What do you think?  Because Charles Oliveira admits his dreadful vision is 'only at 50 per cent' without glasses and jokes he sees THREE opponents during fights.

Yeah, for me Khabib is a different fighter to Oliveira. For one, I consider Khabib to be more cautious, whereas Oliveira risks is too much for his type of style. He's a little more rushed, and more hectic, which usually means good viewing, but a bit more risk to him, and whoever has bet on him.

I might be wrong, but I consider Gaethje a better, at least more impactful striker. While, Poirier is the more well rounded fighter. Although, having said that despite Poirier losing on the night, he very nearly finished that fight a few times, hence my comment about Oliveira being a little bit suspect in terms of defense.

I'll be going for Gaethje via finish @ 2.87. That's good enough odds for me to put a little cheeky bet on. To be honest, even the Oliveira decision line @ 6.50 is rather encouraging. I do see him either getting knocked out or putting the submission on Gaethje though. Gaethje is a tough guy though, which I do believe was a decent wrestler.