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May 27, 2022, 04:58:55 AM
Happy for Michel, thought he did enough, but was a close fight. Wasn't too wild, but was still entertaining. I missed the main event so I can't comment on how close it was, I fell asleep after the Michel fight. I'll be looking at some highlights later, but they never really tell you the full story.

Yeah, Pereira clearly won it IMO, but I gotta say his fights just aren't the same without some wild shit thrown in. I think he can do without the backflip thing he does. As entertaining as it is it's mostly useless and too reckless anyway but some of the other street-fighter moves he does wouldn't have gone amiss. The ones where he kinda runs onto the cage walls like Neo from the Matrix style and propels himself off usually seem to work and look cool too. Maybe it's a good thing he's moving away from the antics though in terms of wanting to be taken seriously as a fighter but it was those crazy moves that got many people interested in the first place and his fights seem to be missing something without that extra element.

see the recent Rose Namajunas v Carla Esparza fight. That one gave Ngannou v Derrick Lewis a run for the worst UFC fight ever. They should start giving out Shite Fight of the Night awards.
That fight annoyed me even more when Rose thought she won, and did what she had too. I mean, honestly I would have scored two of the rounds 10-10 or 0-0 whichever way. It was absolutely shocking. I saw some comparing it to Izzy, and Romero, but for me wasn't anything like it. At least there was a little action, and some technique going on.

Fighters often do that when it goes the distance regardless of how the fight went to try signal that they thought they won it to the judges. If you walk off exhausted and defeated it could sway some judges so they gotta show the bravado of someone who is confident that they've won, but yeah, Rose lost that fight and that's the price you pay for trying to coast it and she deserved it. She probably thought the judges would be more likely to give the belt back to the reigning champ (as is usually the case when it's close and goes the distance). Her corner/boyfriend is also to blame telling her she was winning the fight during it and that she was doing the right thing and was seemingly happy for her to just coast it and hope to win it on points. Hopefully she's actually give it her all and show some hunger trying to win it back which I think she can easily do.

I kind of just wish that the UFC starts docking points for cage grabs, eye pokes, and punishing fighters that aren't there to fight, but to just do enough to win. I get it somewhat, you don't want to get in a fire fight as your odds of winning go down, however this is a sport, and therefore it needs entertainment. That's the reality of it.

Yeah, cage grabs are getting more common now and all the ref does it tell them to stop it and I've seen them happen multiple times in one fight with no consequences. Happened last week multiple times in one fight. It should be a point deduction for sure. As for the eye pokes it depends for me. I've seen some fighters complain of eye pokes/low blows and it didn't go anywhere near their eye/balls. Some fighters just like a break when they can get it, but for sure at other times eye pokes can be pretty nasty but most of the time they're purely accidental. Fighters need to keep their fingers back when they're throwing hands as there's no reason for them to be there really so just retract them, otherwise if it is a blatant and verifiable eye poke then yeah, deduct a point.

Nick Diaz wants to return fighting in UFC this year and he is aiming big calling out Kamaru Usman for title shot, but I doubt Dana White will give him this directly.
I am not sure how UFC ranked him but I can't find him listed on any position in Welterweight category top 15 fighters.
He is 38 years old and he lost three of his last fights, so I am not exactly sure what he expects, but maybe he smoke more weed than usual Smiley

Nick is past it now. His last fight was pretty bad and Usman would kill him. Maybe stick him on the undercard with some bum when Nate is fighting as having them both on the card might make it a big draw.

I'd be shocked if Dana gave Nick that fight. Diaz brothers are losing their following quite fast, and I think we all know the result of that fight before it even happens. Wouldn't do big numbers for the UFC, wouldn't rise the stock of either fighter. So, I don't see it happening. I'm not sure who's the most logical fight for Diaz if he wants to fight. Probably someone at the tail end of their career, just to keep it somewhat interesting.

Nate should probably do the trilogy with Connor. I think that might be a good return fight for Connor. He can't and shouldn't be going for a title shot. Not only does he not deserve it but he'd get embarrassed by someone like Oliveira. Tony Ferguson might be a good one for Connor as well as he's on the tail end of his career and on the back of a bad knock out. Connor needs a win desperately as his stock is diminishing and people need a reason to give a shit about him again and look past all the bollocks he's been doing the past 5 years. I'd like to see him against Poirier again as they obviously have unfinished business and whilst I think he would be the underdog he's capable of winning that.
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May 27, 2022, 04:45:40 AM
Btw, this is a good topic for discussion. Do you guys think there are fixed fights in UFC? Hard to believe there are such. Guys are kicking shit out of each other quite naturally Cheesy
It's really hard to say, but for me, I think it is really hard to make a fixed fight in the UFC, it will surely depend on the fighters if they only want cash what if they really want the belt and the glory, but I think it will really depend if both fighters will have an agreement that they will fix their fights, so the association wouldn't know it, or the association to fighters as well, but for me, it is really hard to fix a fight in the UFC,

If we speak about fixed fight in general, I never heard about fixed fight in UFC. But I have seen such fights in Pride and in a small local US organization Extreme wars.

I remember Mark Coleman, the ground and pound beast was caught in a heel hook by Takada in Pride. Coleman could have smashed Takada numerous times, and as a wrestler, showed weak defence on the ground and got caught as a child in heel hook. Later Mark admitted this was stages, because he has financial troubles.

And I think you know Dan Severn, big beast. Against an average guy (Severn had numerous wins, title defence and etc that time). First round he was pushing, throwing barely punching his opponent. Like in movies, when villain prefer to throw main character and talk, instead killing him in a second, like he did to rest 100 people.

While googling fixed fights in UFC, I have found rather weird fight - Shamrock vs. Severn 2nd fight. Shamrock is famous for leg locks and injuring people, Severn for smashing people. During the fight they showed little action, little violence because on of senators was among the crowd and UFC wanted his approval or support to get into TV. Can this be counted as fixed? Cheesy
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May 27, 2022, 03:24:12 AM
@bbc.reporter look out for Poliana Botelho and Erin Blanchfield two fighting kitties that I think you will like,

Erin Blanchfield is someone Jake Paul might describe thicc hehehe.



She is presently the favorite against JJ Aldrich, however, she might be very overestimated for this because of her unanimous decision victory vs. Miranda Maverick. JJ Aldrich also has more experience than Blanchfield in the UFC.

But seeing him vs Tom Aspinall and how a tad slower he was, dunno...

It might be because Volkov was fighting in Aspinall's home country and it might also be the English mafia told Volkov that they do not want their countryman to lose hehehe.

Erin Blanchfield is really Thicc and yeah she is a thing to behold and pretty much a favorite one to win for this event, I think JJ Aldrich just has a slight experience advantage over Erin Blanchfield it will always go down to the fighters style and technique on who's going to win, and in my opinion and this is my hunch, but I really didn't the in-depth for these fighters yet, but Erin Blanchfield, has some advantage for now,


Btw, this is a good topic for discussion. Do you guys think there are fixed fights in UFC? Hard to believe there are such. Guys are kicking shit out of each other quite naturally Cheesy

It's really hard to say, but for me, I think it is really hard to make a fixed fight in the UFC, it will surely depend on the fighters if they only want cash what if they really want the belt and the glory, but I think it will really depend if both fighters will have an agreement that they will fix their fights, so the association wouldn't know it, or the association to fighters as well, but for me, it is really hard to fix a fight in the UFC,
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May 26, 2022, 06:05:28 PM
I'd be shocked if Dana gave Nick that fight. Diaz brothers are losing their following quite fast, and I think we all know the result of that fight before it even happens. Wouldn't do big numbers for the UFC, wouldn't rise the stock of either fighter. So, I don't see it happening. I'm not sure who's the most logical fight for Diaz if he wants to fight. Probably someone at the tail end of their career, just to keep it somewhat interesting.
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May 26, 2022, 04:23:06 PM
Nick Diaz wants to return fighting in UFC this year and he is aiming big calling out Kamaru Usman for title shot, but I doubt Dana White will give him this directly.
I am not sure how UFC ranked him but I can't find him listed on any position in Welterweight category top 15 fighters.
He is 38 years old and he lost three of his last fights, so I am not exactly sure what he expects, but maybe he smoke more weed than usual Smiley
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May 26, 2022, 11:41:00 AM
While I don't think there are any fixed or rigged matches in the UFC but there's this one judge named Chris Lee who seems to be under some wise guy's payroll.  I was starting to notice him during the covid era.  The guy would always give the score to the loser, the loser at least to my eyes, if given a chance to do it.  That's why...  If you're a fighter and Chris Lee is around, better be sure to finish the other guy.  Grin
Ah, yeah I forgot about the judges Cheesy. I was thinking that the fighters themselves are unlikely. However, there's a obvious bias in certain fights. While, I don't consider the bias to be fixing itself, there's definitely bias. Again, I don't want to throw too much shade Boxing's way, but the judging there can be absolutely awful, just look at the first fight between Fury, and Wilder.

Back to the UFC though. It does seem like every weekend there's a questionable decision on the card. Some are absolutely mind boggling, but I do have to admit they don't get the significant strike statistics like we do, and they don't get the best view either. Us fans get the best view. I do believe the judges don't get the TV view we do, and just watching from the sides right? All from different angles?
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May 26, 2022, 11:02:23 AM
Nah, I don't think there's any fixed fights. I tend to believe that most high level sports doesn't have fixed games. The only thing I would say is a fighter could take a dive secretly without the commission or UFC knowing, but again seems pretty unlikely.

I do think I've seen some questionable dives in Boxing, but never in the UFC.

I want to see UFC making more events based in Europe, instead of North America, and that should be most of the times when they have fighters from European countries in main event or main card.
When you have kids and family it's very hard to stay awake all night watching all fights, but I guess you can always set alarm clock and watch some fights.
Don't get me wrong, if we had more events in the UK or Europe I'd be all for it. They just aren't as often as in the US, which is fair enough being a US company. I'm not complaining too much. It's why I like British boxing events, not because they tend to have more British boxers, but it's just more comfortable to watch them.


Yes, I love English boxing for the same reason. The hours always coincide with the hours I am available. Actually, if the UFC organization increases their events in Paris and Abu Dabi, it will be my business so I can watch the matches live. I usually have to watch the replay and I know the results, it's killing me.
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May 26, 2022, 10:57:42 AM
While I don't think there are any fixed or rigged matches in the UFC but there's this one judge named Chris Lee who seems to be under some wise guy's payroll.  I was starting to notice him during the covid era.  The guy would always give the score to the loser, the loser at least to my eyes, if given a chance to do it.  That's why...  If you're a fighter and Chris Lee is around, better be sure to finish the other guy.  Grin

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May 26, 2022, 06:59:24 AM
Nah, I don't think there's any fixed fights. I tend to believe that most high level sports doesn't have fixed games. The only thing I would say is a fighter could take a dive secretly without the commission or UFC knowing, but again seems pretty unlikely.

I do think I've seen some questionable dives in Boxing, but never in the UFC.

I want to see UFC making more events based in Europe, instead of North America, and that should be most of the times when they have fighters from European countries in main event or main card.
When you have kids and family it's very hard to stay awake all night watching all fights, but I guess you can always set alarm clock and watch some fights.
Don't get me wrong, if we had more events in the UK or Europe I'd be all for it. They just aren't as often as in the US, which is fair enough being a US company. I'm not complaining too much. It's why I like British boxing events, not because they tend to have more British boxers, but it's just more comfortable to watch them.
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May 26, 2022, 06:39:37 AM
But seeing him vs Tom Aspinall and how a tad slower he was, dunno...
It might be because Volkov was fighting in Aspinall's home country and it might also be the English mafia told Volkov that they do not want their countryman to lose hehehe.

Lets count that loss as a stress from war between Ukraine-Russia. This was sort of a beginning of it, start of sanctions and athlete bans everywhere. Lets say, first performance under heavy conditions...

English mafia - you mean these guys ? Cheesy I would not be that much afraid and just wait before they injure each other.



Btw, this is a good topic for discussion. Do you guys think there are fixed fights in UFC? Hard to believe there are such. Guys are kicking shit out of each other quite naturally Cheesy
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May 26, 2022, 12:57:37 AM
@bbc.reporter look out for Poliana Botelho and Erin Blanchfield two fighting kitties that I think you will like,

Erin Blanchfield is someone Jake Paul might describe thicc hehehe.



She is presently the favorite against JJ Aldrich, however, she might be very overestimated for this because of her unanimous decision victory vs. Miranda Maverick. JJ Aldrich also has more experience than Blanchfield in the UFC.

But seeing him vs Tom Aspinall and how a tad slower he was, dunno...

It might be because Volkov was fighting in Aspinall's home country and it might also be the English mafia told Volkov that they do not want their countryman to lose hehehe.
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May 26, 2022, 12:44:36 AM
Alexander Volkov needs to set the distance very well, he needs to use his kicks very effectively, if Rozensturik closes the distance, he can get knocked out with an effective shot. If Alexander Volkov plays the match wisely, he will win the match at the end of the match, with the decision of the referee. Rozenstruik needs to defend his effective finishing hits well I think Volkov will do it well.

I think Rozenstruik may win  by KO . Unless Volkov comes in with a perfect takedown plan.  Rozenstruik has underated power. If he could find volk's chin and it will only take one if he does. He’s a counter puncher so volume could be an issue but I think he’s gonna bring the fight as he doesn’t wanna continue on a losing skid. If Volkov will be able to get him down and land on top more times then not, then he might just win. It hard to predict.
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May 25, 2022, 11:45:11 PM

Pretty much.  But seeing him vs Tom Aspinall and how a tad slower he was, dunno...  Just like Holly Holm, are we seeing a decline somewhat with Volkov?  And Roz isn't a bad fighter himself.  He could be explosive as we've seen vs Overeem and JDS who are no push overs.  They were both top guys too back in the day.  So yeah, I guess Volkov should be the rightful favorite, it's just I think the line should be closer.  Value side is Roz imho.

And btw...  The next event is the next weekend after this weekend.  -_-  But at least we have UCL final and Monaco GP.  

Pretty much every fighter will be going into their slower years, as their age progress, so it is no big surprise if a younger and inexperience athlete will sure beat them, while Holly Holm just got a little power failure because she really got the Ketlen Vieira power experience, that is why I can say that Vieira has power to his shots, while Holm focus on the quantity, while Vieira focus on those quality shots,

I think people are getting the ride for those fighters that are more Technical, and between Volkov and Rozenstruik, Alexander Volkov will be the man because of those calculated strikes, not as well-calculated as Ciryl Gane but compared to Rozenstruik Volkov got the edge,

The reason I asked what people thought of him was I was hoping to be convinced to put a bet on. I hadn't looked at the odds at the time of asking, but I just knew they would be rather one sided. So, having a look at what a lot of users are saying here, I'm thinking of putting a cheeky little bet on him. It seems that most acknowledge he has more than enough to win.

Well, you can always go for the fighter that you really like, all of what I say are just speculations and I really think that Jairzinho Rozenstruik still has that punching power that could 1 punch KO his opponent, that hasn't changed my perspective because I am going with a more technical fighter, and about the Heavyweight division we usually see fights always finish in the 1st round and if Jairzinho Rozenstruik strikes gets to Volkov that fast this is finish, 

I literally always feel lost when the UFC isn't on. It has become a routine for me where Saturday nights are usually when I don't sleep until early morning. In fact, the last event was a early event, which always takes me by surprise, and actually throws my sleeping pattern off a little.


Well, on your part it really becomes your routine, so it is really hard for you not to have your weekly dose of watching UFC, while mine is just normal, I am just getting the excitement when a fight is on the horizon, that is why posting it here in the forum somewhat calms that excitement from me, and divert it to thinking,
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May 25, 2022, 10:48:11 PM
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This does not surprise me, Polyana Viana clearly has a great skill above any common man, and what she did to the thief is very good, many think that being a woman will make it easier to assault or take advantage of them, but the most It is important that here the advantage that she has over any other man or any other woman is very evident.

I can only imagine the thief's face when she was giving him the beating of his life, really he left him very unsuccessful, I think some thieves will take a lesson when they see this kind of news.
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May 25, 2022, 02:42:44 PM
I literally always feel lost when the UFC isn't on. It has become a routine for me where Saturday nights are usually when I don't sleep until early morning. In fact, the last event was a early event, which always takes me by surprise, and actually throws my sleeping pattern off a little.
I want to see UFC making more events based in Europe, instead of North America, and that should be most of the times when they have fighters from European countries in main event or main card.
When you have kids and family it's very hard to stay awake all night watching all fights, but I guess you can always set alarm clock and watch some fights.
Just reading latest UFC news, it could happen that Paulo Costa wants to delay his fight against Luke Rockhold, didn't he try some stupid weight thing against Marvin Vettori last time?  Roll Eyes
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May 25, 2022, 08:21:24 AM
Value side is Roz imho.
The reason I asked what people thought of him was I was hoping to be convinced to put a bet on. I hadn't looked at the odds at the time of asking, but I just knew they would be rather one sided. So, having a look at what a lot of users are saying here, I'm thinking of putting a cheeky little bet on him. It seems that most acknowledge he has more than enough to win.

And btw...  The next event is the next weekend after this weekend.  -_-  But at least we have UCL final and Monaco GP.  
I literally always feel lost when the UFC isn't on. It has become a routine for me where Saturday nights are usually when I don't sleep until early morning. In fact, the last event was a early event, which always takes me by surprise, and actually throws my sleeping pattern off a little.
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May 25, 2022, 08:19:49 AM
Alexander Volkov needs to set the distance very well, he needs to use his kicks very effectively, if Rozensturik closes the distance, he can get knocked out with an effective shot. If Alexander Volkov plays the match wisely, he will win the match at the end of the match, with the decision of the referee. Rozenstruik needs to defend his effective finishing hits well I think Volkov will do it well.

Pretty much.  But seeing him vs Tom Aspinall and how a tad slower he was, dunno...  Just like Holly Holm, are we seeing a decline somewhat with Volkov?  And Roz isn't a bad fighter himself.  He could be explosive as we've seen vs Overeem and JDS who are no push overs.  They were both top guys too back in the day.  So yeah, I guess Volkov should be the rightful favorite, it's just I think the line should be closer.  Value side is Roz imho.

And btw...  The next event is the next weekend after this weekend.  -_-  But at least we have UCL final and Monaco GP.  
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May 25, 2022, 08:17:26 AM
I know that Welsh is a fan of Michel Pereira. What do you find in this guy? What you like him for? Smiley
It's mainly for his style. He isn't the best in terms of strategy, however you just know you're going to be entertained, win or loss. To be honest, I actually think he's one of the most talented in the UFC, the unfortunate bit for him if he ever wants to become champion is; he'll likely need to drop his antics in the cage, which is one of the biggest reasons I absolutely love watching him.

If it wasn't for those antics, he would be just like any other fighter. What other fighter starts doing flips, and still closing the gap on their opponent, what other fighter jumps onto the top of the cage, backflips off, lands, and then gets a punch off that actually lands. Yeah, it wasn't against the greatest opponent, but who else takes risks like that?

His striking is sound, his defense needs work, and he has been fighting better opposition lately, and while he has definitely tuned in his antics a little bit, he still does them, and gets away with it.

I don't know if he'll ever be champion material. I do think if he tightened up his game, and dropped his antics he could potentially be. However, do I want that? I'm not sure, I'd love to see him become successful as I've been a fan for a while now, but I love watching him for his style so I would definitely miss that. Although, it's always nice to see your favourite fighters have some success even if it means sacrificing what you love seeing them do. After all, they're trying to feed themselves, and he has already delivered so many memorable moments for me.

He hasn't got the best personality outside the cage, by that I mean he isn't a Conor mcgregor so he hasn't got the allure of him, and I know he has just got caught up with some drama with Masvidal, which appears he may have been in the wrong. For me, he doesn't need to get involved with drama like that, his style more than makes up for it.  
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May 25, 2022, 06:15:39 AM
Yesterday I had some free time, so I decided to take a closer look on who Michel Pereira is. I've noticed that his name flashes here from time to time and users mentioning they are fan of him. By the way Pereira moves, it is obvious that he has a capoeira background, but there is nothing about it in his bio on wiki. Pereira has everything a fighter needs to become a champion, but he must work on a lot on his tactics. All these superman punches, backflips to get in mount, attack jumps using fence, dances, taunts - one day a fighter with similar skill level will punish him for neglect of defence.

I know that Welsh is a fan of Michel Pereira. What do you find in this guy? What you like him for? Smiley
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May 25, 2022, 03:28:21 AM
I'd be interested in hearing someone's input that isn't going for Alexander Volkov. Personally I don't see it going any other way, and without checking the odds I imagine they'll reflect that.

Most of the bookies are going with Volkov because of the experience, Alexander Volkov has more matches and more wins than Jairzinho Rozenstruik but Rozenstruik has a kickboxing record just like Israel Adesanya could also be compared as a combat sport, and both from losing to Ciryl Gane have a winning match and a lost match, but we can never say that they have the same technique I am comparing them on their performance with Ciryl Gane, and I think because of Gane's speed both have lost to Gane and out speed them and outstrike them, it was a wonderful performance for Ciryl Gane, but I notice that Rozenstruik seems falling from Gane's takedowns  but if Cyril Gane wants to win with a Knockout he can surely get it, just like what he did with Derrick Lewis, While Alexander Volkov is a technical striker, he is landing leg kicks to Ciryl Gane and potentially checking their distance, I say Ciryl Gane most of the time had a hard time with Volkov, and sorry to say I am not for Rozenstruik aswell,

I'd be interested in hearing someone's input that isn't going for Alexander Volkov. Personally I don't see it going any other way, and without checking the odds I imagine they'll reflect

I mean, it's not a stretch to think Vlokov could choke up like he did in some fights, and at the end of the day, no matter the preferences, it's still a fight and especially in the HW division, one punch is enough to end it. But having any more detailed technical explanation, yeah, it's the HW, let's not get to deep into it XD

Then Enter Ciryl Gane, and most of the Heavyweights would surely need a technical master plan to take him down, even Francis Ngannou, that most of his fights were all KO/TKO but with the Bon Gamin he was really put to the test, and also end up going for takedowns, but let's take out that injury that he has because I really think that Alexander Volkov can be untouchable at times and he surely has the technical styles that can cut Jairzinho Rozenstruik and I think this is the 1st time Rozenstruik get up against Volkov aswell, this could end up like Gane VS Rozenstruik fight, with the decision than with a KO/TKO.
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