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Yeah, but I believe this was refuted by Gane so its a classic hype building statement, which can't be proved either way, and its his word against Gane. So, I'd take that with a pinch of salt, especially since in sparring you aren't meant to be knocking out anyone.

If they're doing light sparring which I believe is what the video was showing they don't tend to wear head guards, but when they start pressing on the gas a little any respectable training facility will insist on head guards. Even then, its not meant to be knocking out your training partner.

Like I said this is likely the classic pre fight build up rather than anything truthful.

Francis Ngannou main enemy in this fight will be his stamina. His fight against Stepe showed that he is really bad at late rounds. And that is no wonder, "big engine requires a lot of fuel". I've said several times already, power is the only thing Ngannou has. Gane is no less dangerous. 13-0 in Muay Thai and all wins by KO/TKO, 10-0 in MMA. Did you know that Gane won 7 fight in UFC in two last years without loosing a single round (like Khabib heh) ?

There is a funny quote - "Francis Ngannou is Greta Thunbergs enemy Nr.1. Because when he breathes, he produces too much O2"

@cabron. Ngannou’s bitcoin adoption is only a marketing trick by Cashapp similar to all the other athletes who have accepted bitcoin. These type of very optimistic news also causes me to speculate if the cryptospace is near bubble pop stage of the market. I reckon it should pump first then followed by the bubble pop dump similar to 2017.

I agree to the people in the thread who are predicting that this might be a win for Francis Ngannou. He is 3-0 if the underdog hehehehe.



The reigning UFC Heavyweight Champion Francis Ngannou has announced the mixed martial artist has partnered with the payments firm Cash App and plans to take half of his UFC 270 purse in bitcoin. Ngannou told his 620,100 Twitter followers that he believes “bitcoin can empower people everywhere.”

In addition to getting paid half of his purse in BTC, Ngannou said he planned to give away $300K worth of bitcoin to people dropping their Cash App name tag and using the hashtag “#paidinbitcoin.”

Source https://news.bitcoin.com/heavyweight-champ-francis-ngannou-plans-to-take-half-of-his-ufc-270-purse-paid-in-bitcoin/

In an interview Francis actually said he knock Gane out in sparring. Although things don't always happen in a real fight, Gane could do the same to Francis this time. So those odds might change soon.

Since the time Francis demanded big pay, he loses friends including the teammates he use to and then Francis moved to another gym, that's a big deal. This is why he seeks to be in movies and sponsorship, MMA fighter-like him wants his voice to be heard.  Jut recently he announce to be paid in BTC too.

Seems to be motivated by money rather than what sport he's participating in so we could see him make the switch to boxing. I mean the guy is probably one of the biggest heavyweights we've seen, so he kind of markets himself because of his physique. I've always got the impression that they wasn't married to the idea of keeping him around, though. You know like Conor no matter what that man does he always gets the biggest fights, partly because he causes drama.

UFC haven't lost that many, but it only takes a few bigger names to start looking for alternatives, and they'll have to change their ways because they will start losing fighters. Luckily for UFC in the MMA world they've pretty much got the monopoly so until another organisation starts paying more, and getting to the level of fame that fighters might be looking for it might be more of the same.

Although, in the last two years fighters have been much more vocal about money issues with the UFC. It doesn't look good when champions are saying they'll take x fight because its more money or x champion will leave because they don't think they're getting paid enough. Obviously, recently we had Jake Paul trying to get involved, and said he was advocating for better pay for UFC fighters, which didn't go down to well with Dana.

I just feel despite Dana being quite stubborn, and strong in his beliefs, sooner rather than later he'll have to somewhat cave into the demands. I'll be honest I'm not all that interested in Ngannou boxing, I wouldn't mind seeing a fight against Fury just because of the different physiques, but really I'm not interested in him boxing beyond that, and surely Ngannou realizes that too.

But what's the alternative for him? Sure, he could go to other promotions, but that doesn't mean he would get any more money and he wouldn't be the champ anymore. Also, UFC never seemed to really care about him being champion, i always got the feeling they didn't know what to do with him (marketing-wise), so I doubt they will make any moves towards pleasing him. I mean, what's the track record of UFC losing big names due to not paying enough? Not that much, unfortunately (for the fighters)

Ngannou not likely to sign another contract with the UFC, unless they give him a hefty pay rise. Wonder how Dana will handle it, if he gives money to Ngannou, he'll need to give it to other fighters also, which could open a can of worms.

I'd like to see a pay restructure since most fighters on the card are criminally underpaid when you compare it with other sports, and we've had this discussion before about MMA fighters needing to pay higher fees than boxers due to learning multiple disciplines.

Weird, every other gambling website I've looked at had similar odds even the local bookies has it at similar odds. It's only Sportsbet that's got Ngannou as a favourite. Everywhere else I've looked its currently around 2.25 for Ngannou, and 1.66 for Gane.

If its the same tape I saw I'd say that put Gane in a more positive light than Ngannou, right?

Make your predictions, guys!

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I really don't know what might happen to him when he returns to the UFC, and what kind of excuse the UFC might think of in taking his rank away, maybe there are some rules that weren't disclosed to the public, or people doesn't realize that there are rules like that, but anyway, if he's going to return and without any ranking at all, then he sure need to start back in scratch, which will be something that might happen to him,


In my opinion, Giga Chikadze was dominant with striking, and with their stand exchange, you can definitely see that in the first round, but the moment he just showed an error Kattar saw this opportunity to get on a takedown and it is a good move for him, and I surely give him credit in exposing Chikadze's weakness (well for most strikers wrestling is surely their weakness) and strikers tend to fatigue very fast when it comes to a ground fight, Giga Chikadze is struggling to defend any submission Kattar do to him and this makes him fatigue even more, and my verdict Calvin Kattar is lucky to pull something like that, to Chikadze, but Luck, patient, and technique is pretty much needed so I am giving that to Calvin Kattar aswell, 

And on to UFC 270 were I am most excited about.

Yup, it’s prolly another case of the MMA betting market being irrational again.  Just like what happened last week with Kattar vs Chikadze.  Everyone both sharps and squares were big on Chikadze.  And it’s unsurprising really, esp how Chikadze finished Barboza in under three rounds.

I guess with Ngannou and Gane, one of the reasons why was that leaked tape showing the sparring session the both had at MMA Factory, Ngannou’s former gym.   If anybody finds a YT clip feel free to post it itt.

"Just one blow from Gane, and Ngannou is sleeping"

I saw rumors, Ngannou said that 600k for the fight is not enough for him. As Welsh said, PPV prices raises (ESPN raises UFC pay-per-view price for third time), greedy Ngannou can perform a rat move and blackmail UFC for increase or he wont fight. Somehow I am expecting something bad from Ngannou.

I also expect Brazilian Deiveson Figueiredo getting his belt back. I think Moreno is unstable in his fight. He has lost his first in ufc tournament of champs and was kicked from the show. Then he replaced another guy and won. After he had 3-2 record in UFC and they did not offer him new contract. He returned and had 2 draws and 2 win with decision. He does not look a fighter with stable record. He is not convincing champ imho.

Just one blow from Francis, Ciryl will be over. All he needs is just one and you can double your money. One uppercut like he did to Overeem would be satisfying.

Since the Ngannou was defeated by Miocic, Dana White and Ngannou relationship had deteriorated. There were speculations that Dana will not give good pay to Ngannou even when he can entice more people for the PPV with Jon Jones heavyweight come back. They are just rumors though.

I can't believe this odds I see now on Francis N'Gannou to win against Ciryl Gane! 
I know both of them are great fighters but giving N'Gannou role of an underdog  will just make him want to win faster to prove everyone wrong.
Dana White is not in good relations with him and maybe he would want to see Ciryl Gane as new champion of heavyweight division...
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-270-ngannou-vs-gane/ngannou-francis-vs-gane-ciryl-619df136e5327bf6e886778c

I'm getting odds at 1.67 for Gane now. Wish I pulled the trigger a few weeks ago when it was 1.90 each. Thinking its worth just putting a bet on Ngannou now for the knockout. Ngannou is priced at 2.30 for the win, while the knockout is 2.50. Considering I can't see any way that Ngannou wins this other than knockout that small increase for the TKO is probably worth it. Disappointed though, as I wanted to bet for Gane at 1.90, and whatever the outcome then I would've been satisfied.

One thing for certain is Ngannou will be getting his face boxed in by Gane's superior jab, and movement. So, if he's going to finish it he'll need to do it early, since he carries a lot more muscle, and muscle requires a lot more energy to keep going. At the pace Gane will set with his movement I imagine Ngannou will be getting tired very quickly on the night.

MORENO VS FIGUEIREDO
Round 3 the first two, were exceptionally amazing fights let's see if the Mexican can hold onto his belt..I expect thrilling five round display.
SPIVAC VS HARDY
Heavy weights fight of the night, this fight would not last long, with the hard punches expected, don't blink.
PEREIRA LIMA VS FIALHO
Knock out of the night for sure. Pereira may showcase a knockout or submission that we have not seen before, he is a very dangerous individual.
Nurmagomedov's brother will be fighting at bantam weight so look for khabib on the sidelines and expect some nice grappling from the Russian.
NGANNOU VS GANE
The one we all have been waiting for, what more can you say? If you are a UFC fan defiantly a must see card from California. The NGANNOU will destroy the Frenchman, within two rounds.

I wasn't surprised with the first rematch since it was probably one of the most entertaining fights for a neutral. Moreno, and Fig were perfectly matched in the first fight, Moreno adjusted better in the rematch, and I guess Dana just wants to make the most of both of these fighters in their prime delivering good fights. Means more money for the UFC at least.

Didn't Dana announce that PPV prices were going up too?

Definitely wasn't the reason, it was a contributing factor to the fight though. Although, and I hate to do this again, if you consider Conor regarded as one of the best fighters in his prime, but has always suffered with cardio issues, so it can be done with poor pacing.

Kattar's elbows were nothing short of brilliance that night though.

That's all good, and if he's still not feeling well he shouldn't rush it and put his health / Life in danger. However, That still doesn't explain the fact that the UFC acted abruptly and hastily, at least from what we can see in the media. Anyway, If he returns, I am hoping it's in good health. But Who will they put him in with, he's not ranked anymore, can he just leap over a bunch of others that were present for the past few years? Interesting situation...


I wouldn't agree on that one, saying that Giga lost solely because of his inadequate cardio. That's just taking a lot away from Kattars performance. And I honestly think that even with Giga's cardio issues, Kattar still outclassed him with technique.

Lets get back to UFC 270. Brandon Moreno vs Deiveson Figueiredo. I remember Brandon from Tournament of Champions tv series. It was aired several years ago, and now he is a champion. Now he is facing Figueiredo, for the third time. Figueiredo - former champion. He has lost to Moreno year ago via submission. It was a clear win, but they are having a rematch. I find it strange, as there are other fighters who want title fight. Like Askar Askarov. He is on a series of 3 wins in UFC and has 14-0-1 record. Only one draw and to Moreno. But they are not having a rematch. Hard to understand UFC logic.

Well, Kattar definitely did look hurt for period of that first round. Though, after that it was a landslide. Tokeweed pointed out his questionable cardio before the fight even happened. He just seems to get too excited, and spends himself in one flurry, which will cost him in the future too he doesn't sort that out.

The thing is he's clearly a talented fighter, that could potentially go on to compete for the belt if he put his mind to it. Although, considering his age, and his current mentality of looking beyond his opponents its not likely to happen. He needs to work on his fight IQ, and that includes spending his energy much more intelligently than he did on the weekend.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Kattar vs Chiga rematch. It was entertaining, and I'll be honest I'm a little curious to see if Giga can adjust or if hes reached his ceiling in terms of potential.