Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 372. (Read 97129 times)

@tokeweed, @YuginKadoya. I am not quite certain if uncle Dana will consider this, however, triple C Henry Cejudo has offered himself as another choice to replace Max Holloway and challenge Alexander Volkanovski for the featherweight championship hehehe. Henry Cejudo will become the first UFC fighter to win 3 championships in 3 different divisions if gets the victory.



As fate would have it, Cejudo, who has been lobbying to fight Volkanovski for several months, has thrown his name into the ring as a potential short-notice replacement. If selected, maybe Cejudo will be the one on the other end of an all-time classic against Volkanovski.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/01/cejudo-volkanovski-vs-ortega-greatest-fight-ever/

In my opinion, Francis Ngannou's reply was because he feels that Tyson Fury is underestimating him, well that is my point of view and we might not get that kind of fight for now but Francis Ngannou really loves boxing he was really torn in signing the contract because he wants to push his boxing so much, and I think even though it seems very tempting to see these two fight, it will need to wait and I think that Francis Ngannou can surely become a Deontay Wilder type of boxer but has more explosion and a lot to show inside the ring, well even though I love Francis Ngannou in the octagon I also want to see him inside a boxing ring and live his dream to the fullest,

But I am supporting Ciryl Gane winning against Ngannou, I really think that Gane can cater to us a much more exciting being a heavyweight champion, I really love the guy he is just like dancing around inside the octagon while fighting.

Feel bad for Max Holloway but the fight will be on March 6 and given the time frame it is not enough for recovery also curious about the fighter that will replace him, and also hoping for Giga Chikadze to win this coming fight aswell.

Lmao.  I saw that tweet.  Fury said he wants boxing rules with MMA gloves and Ngannou replied he wanted MMA rules with boxing gloves.    Just from that exchange, we know it ain’t happening.  But who knows...

And some bad news, Holloway was supposed to fight Volk for another title shot at 145 but sadly Holloway got injured.  There are some rumors going around that TKZ could be the replacement fighter.  But I’m hoping for Chikadze to win real quick next Saturday and hopefully slide himself in there as the replacement fighter.  I guess we’ll see.

Here’s a vid of Gane’s last match.

UFC Free Fight:  Gane vs Lewis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgTfeQ7TdMI

Enjoy.  


Yup, sad.  I was looking forward for Salikhov vs Pereira.  I was picking Salikhov as a slight underdog.

I'm hearing that the Michel Pereira, and Joaquin Buckley fights are off. Shame, probably the two I was most looking forward too, especially Michel's as I'm a fan, despite him having a very suspect gas tank, and a little bit flamboyant, though I guess that's why I like watching him as do so many others. I was looking forward to seeing how Buckley bounces back from his kick into fame, and then hitting a bit of a rough patch before returning with a win. Would like to see him to start to kick back into gear.

I want this fight aswell, but in getting this fight early Ciryl Gane needs to win Francis Ngannou just wanting that boxing action and you are right he is pretty torn in signing his contract if he wins the unification, and you are right it seems that Francis Ngannou is pretty much distracted right now but distracted or not I am going with Ciryl Gane all the way, the Speed and technicality of his strike and that accuracy, and he is not moving like a heavyweight he is more like a light heavyweight or a middleweight to me, So definitely going with Gane,

But Francis Ngannou in a boxing max you are right he is like Wilder but in my opinion, Francis Ngannou even though not technical with his punches he has a lot to showcase that Deontay Wilder but Tyson Fury as a boxer is pretty much skillful enough to give a hard time for Ngannou and with Fury's Reach advantage on Ngannou this is going to be something really new for Francis Ngannou fighting an opponent with that reach advantage.

There is something great coming along as we speak about this things, Tyson Fury and MMA are talking about creating one super fight between Fury and Francis Ngannou.
This would be amazing heavyweight fight to watch and both of them are talking about this on social media, there are early posters already
I don't know if this would be boxing rules with MMA gloves or MMA rules with boxing gloves 

Muay thai fighters have rarely dominated in the UFC though, so I wouldn't say they're any more effective than other styles. Wrestlers, BJJ or GJJ seem to be the most dominant through the years. I mean the Gracies created it to prove that their style was the best.

Talking in terms of records Ngannou's is longer. Plus, I suspect Ngannou has grown up fighting. I'm not sure about Gane's history, though I do think I recall watching snippets of Ngannou when he was younger back at home fighting amateurishly.

I watched it. Maybe I am way to much fan of muay thai. But I believe that thai fighter train their legs so hard, turn them into stones, that they can win just by blocking kick. As if opponent kicks the wall. I see Ngannou as a puncher only, while Gane is more universal fighter.


Bookies (at least my local) give 1.77 for Ngannou and 1.9 for Gane, while I see Gane a favorite in this fight. He has more fighting experience

Considering the vastly different opinions here on who's going to win, and how I think the bookies might have got it right. I mean for me, if I was to place a  bet on Ngannou it would be via TKO/KO just to bump up the odds a little more, and to be honest that's probably the most likely outcome if he was to win. I could possibly see a submission maybe, remember that Ngannou actually started his career with a bunch of submissions rather than knockouts.

For me the logic behind Gane is; He's the most technical, and will likely out point Ngannou. Therefore, he has the upper hand in the decision, potential knockout, and submission. Whereas, in all likelihood Ngannou is going there for the knockout, and is unlikely to win by points. Submission like I said still undecided on that, but Gane probably has the technical ability to prevent any sort of submission.

I'm kind of hoping Ngannou does win to be honest.

^  Ngannou looked like he could throw some nasty leg kicks too.  Watch the vid I posted above.  He wasn’t throwing them much but you could see Miocic was bothered everytime Ngannou threw them.

And what do you mean too bad the bookies don’t agree with you?  If they did then Gane would be having a worse line that what the books are laying them for right now.  I’m on the other side...  I think Ngannou could finish Gane within three rounds imho.  Stake has Ngannou at 1.94.  I think that’s value.  I think we’d be watching the match and realize he should be at least the 1.50 favorite.

Brock Lesnar had an awful injury (from wrestling and wwe probably, I dont remember right now the detailes). Doctors said that he most likely wont be able to do sports anymore. However recovered and participated in wrestling and MMA for years. Ngannou does not have an injury, yet. He is the guy that distribute injuries

I think Gane has more chances to win, as he has a fighting base, while Ngannou only trained boxing in his early. Gane just need to keep distance and wait until Ngannou runs out of stamina (that will be hard to achieve). Gane could easily slowdown Ngannou with low kicks, he is a muay thai fighter after all. Than it will be a matter of time when Gane will catch Ngannou. Too bad bookies does not agree with me.

^  Cain Velasquez had a couple of injuries that were nagging him during his run in the UFC.  He had an almost bum knee which he had surgery.  And there was his lower back injury which took him out from fighting for more than a year, which he also had surgery but it didn’t go as planned and took his career in limbo...

In hindsight, I think it was Cain Velasquez who asked to be matched up vs Ngannou as a last fight deal cos he prolly really needed the money.

Francis Ngannou reminds me of a Cain Velasquez (btw they meet in the octagon ). They both are the guys who prefer an early knockout to strategy.  Anyone remember when Cain retired or why he no longer fights in UFC ? I dont. He just disappeared. I clearly remember that he was not on a series of losses. I think same will be with Ngannou. Despite he makes good money for UFC, he pisses them off. UFC will try to remove him from their roster.

Ngannou has got this reputation has a puncher, and really isn't all that great at anything else. However, like tokeweed says, he showed in that Stipe fight that he has improved massivelly on his grappling, and wrestling skills. Alright, he might not be Ryan Hall, but he has shown hes improving in areas he wasn't really known for being technical at.

I don't think Gane is going to be wrestling him anyway. I actually think he'll go toe to toe with Ngannou, and quite probably might take the belt on the night.

I didn't know I wanted this until I saw this. Absolutely, make it happen. Alright, I think in a boxing match Fury knocks Ngannou from pillar to post, but it'll be entertaining since it'll just be like the Wilder fight. Wilder possess huge knockout power just like Ngannou. Alright, Ngannou probably isn't as technical at Wilder, but Wilder isn't exactly that technical himself.

Could be fun, I'm thinking Ngannou might even not be bothered about his fight with Gane, and Gane takes the easily. Think I'll definitely be betting a little more on Gane now. Ngannou seems distracted, and considering his options rather than fighting for his life to keep the belt. You just know Gane's going in with every intention of walking out with that belt, no matter how hard he has to work for it.

Tired?  I don’t recall Miocic saying any of that sort after the event.  Miocic got his sh*t KO’d out of him in that match.  Lol.

And yup..  Jones would def have the wrestling advantage but Ngannou improved in that department too.  Watch the vid in that post you quoted.  Ngannou scrambled and took Miocic’s back and started pounding away.  It was good. 

Anyway, here’s a vid by Dan Hardy and what he thinks is in store as far as match ups and rankings are concerned for the UFC in 2022.  The argument for Ankalaev to be champ before 2022 just got stronger. 

UFC Match Ups and Rankings Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZERRHsAqkg

Just in Tyson Fury is calling out Francis Ngannou I think this is the reason why Ngannou wants to get out of contract with the UFC he really loves boxing so much he might do it and if he loses to Ciryl Gane the better chance he can sure grab that opportunity Tyson Fury is offering he wants to fight Francis Ngannou on a boxing match rules but with UFC gloves, this could be a good exhibition match for Ngannou the fact that Tyson Fury wants to fight him in a UFC gloves goes to show a handicap for Ngannou give n this Ngannou is so comfortable with that gloves that he can knock anyone with it, but I will not underestimate Fury because with the UFC gloves as well can sure have a devastating punch like a boxer and given that the fight will be in boxing rules, If Francis Ngannou would win against Ciryl Gane this fight will have to wait because Ngannou as a champion will have to sign another contract to the UFC but if Ciryl Gane would win we could definitely see this fight maybe this year.



But apparently, Francis Ngannou just Tweeted back to Tyson Fury saying this and I don't know what gloves they are using and apparently, this is just a mind game for both camps.

Edit:

Yup! pretty much Floyd Mayweather Jr. won that fight no doubt about it, he has done some pretty evasive maneuver moves and that is his style, and part of boxing so there is no excuse with that.

I think partly the reason it feels a lot longer than it has been, is because hes been rumoured to be making a comeback for months now. Plus, there's been numerous happenings outside the UFC, which hasn't really showed him in a great light recently.

I honestly, as much as I would like to see him fight Ngannou just don't see him making a return. He's going up against Dana, will probably demand too much money that Dana isn't willing to pay, and it just won't happen.

Tyson Fury is a bit of a genetic freak, he's what 6ft 9? That's pretty incredible to be that height, and be a professional boxer with the kind of movement that he does have. Especially, considering his weight added on top. There's several other boxers who are shorter, and his weight, but still don't have the movement of Fury.

Genetics, and upbringing if you like are vital to how you develop. Tyson Fury being surrounded by a fighting family no doubt played a part, but he definitely genetically gifted in a lot of ways.

Well said. I would replace "genetics" with "upbringing", because I think that words you hear and deeds you see while growing up are way more important for what you become than molecules in your body, but overall yeah, that's what makes you a champ.

Tyson Fury is a good example. Having a lot of professional boxers among his relatives, surely he was influenced by them.


It's unclear whether there will be a rematch(maybe not), but it's a fact that Mayweather won the fight on May 2, 2015, no matter what Pacquiao's fans are saying.

Just saw that Claudia Gadehla is writing a book now that she is retired. We can expect that to happen more and more, but makes me wonder if the market will become oversaturated with books from fighters that think that's a way to a quick buck after the career ends. Don't see it happening yet, as most books that come out are actually interesting, but down the line, that could become a thing. Also, reminded me of a couple of books I really enjoyed. Chael Sonnen's 'Voice of Reason', Mark Hunt's 'Born to Fight' and Forrest Griffin's 'Got Fight' are good reads and I recommend them to anyone that want's some nice inside into a time when cage fighting was relatively new.

I haven't seen Jon Jones fight in a long time, if I'm not mistaken the last time I saw his fight was in 2020 , now it's been reported that Jon Jones has managed to gain weight to fight in the Ufc Heavyweight Championship and if it's true that he will make a comeback, of course  it will be interesting if later he could face one of the winners of the fight between Francis Ngannou and also Ciryl Gane at Ufc 27O later.