I have a feeling that all these "Ngannou problems with Dana White" are artificial. This is a multiple step strategy how to set Gane vs Ngannou fight more expensive.
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I would not say that Ngannou "could not be hurt by Gane's strikes". Gane is a Muai Thai fighter. Sure Ngannou would feel knees and elbow (which Gane likes throw). Btw, Gane and Ngannou has similar weight and height. We just need to put them next to each other and there will no much difference in size
I have a feeling that all these "Ngannou problems with Dana White" are artificial. This is a multiple step strategy how to set Gane vs Ngannou fight more expensive.
I have a feeling that all these "Ngannou problems with Dana White" are artificial. This is a multiple step strategy how to set Gane vs Ngannou fight more expensive.
Ciryl Gane is a technical fighter and a kick boxer and he might not be having one punch knockout power but he knows how to win fights and that is what is interesting and do not underestimate the chin of Alexander Volkov, he was only knocked out once by Derrick Lewis in a fight he was winning till the end in a career spanning 42 fights in the Heavyweight division.
Yup! Gane is indeed a technical fighter that could surely win fights even though he doesn't have that power in his strikes, and you are right the durability of Volkov is really impressive as well, but I am just concern for Ciryl Gane if he would fight with a much durable opponent, that technical performance he has shown is not really enough Francis Ngannou could literally ignore his strike and go with a barrage of strikes because he could not be hurt by Gane's strikes, But let's just see if Ciryl Gane could improve this, sure enough, he could not have all major aspect of a fighter.
Francis Ngannou is raw power and i have no idea who has the power to knockout Francis Ngannou, the fight i wished to see was Anthony Johnson and Francis Ngannou when i heard he was coming out of retirement but unfortunately he signed with Bellator and we wont be able to see that power punching battle.
And right now Francis Ngannou is having a problem with Dana White at moment, and I don't know if they could resolve this now there can be Derrick Lewis VS, Cyril Gane, up the horizon.
There is change of things in the Heavy Weight division than expected, i thought Derrick Lewis will be facing Francis Ngannou for the belt but now news is coming out about an interim UFC Heavyweight Championship bout between Derrick Lewis and Ciryl Gane and it is expected to take place at UFC 265.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
If Francis Ngannou would not resolve any issues between his management and with Dana White then it is going to be a bad ending for Ngannou on UFC, they could make the management of Ngannou say sorry for what they have argued with or Francis would hire new people to be his management to save his career.
@notblox1. Dana might only be creating a new storyline for Francis Ngannou versus Cyril Gane hehe.
@tokeweed. Cyril Gane versus Jon Jones for the interim heavyweight championship might also be in Dana’s mind if Gane is the winner versus the Black Beast hehehe.
In any case, Sean O’Malley does not have a dance partner for UFC 264. Merab wants to be the replacement. I reckon the oddmakers might make a mistake on who to make the favorite for this fight hehe.
Sean O’Malley is in need of a new opponent after Louis Smolka was forced to withdraw from UFC 264 with an undisclosed injury, but there are already fighters eager to occupy Smolka’s vacant role.
The most notable name from a rankings perspective who has volunteered to step in and replace Smolka is #10-ranked bantamweight Merab Dvalishvili, who was quick to tag O’Malley in his tweet so that there could be no mistaking whether his offer was received.
Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/06/merab-dvalishvili-offers-to-replace-smolka-to-face-omalley-at-ufc-264/
@tokeweed. Cyril Gane versus Jon Jones for the interim heavyweight championship might also be in Dana’s mind if Gane is the winner versus the Black Beast hehehe.
In any case, Sean O’Malley does not have a dance partner for UFC 264. Merab wants to be the replacement. I reckon the oddmakers might make a mistake on who to make the favorite for this fight hehe.
Sean O’Malley is in need of a new opponent after Louis Smolka was forced to withdraw from UFC 264 with an undisclosed injury, but there are already fighters eager to occupy Smolka’s vacant role.
The most notable name from a rankings perspective who has volunteered to step in and replace Smolka is #10-ranked bantamweight Merab Dvalishvili, who was quick to tag O’Malley in his tweet so that there could be no mistaking whether his offer was received.
Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/06/merab-dvalishvili-offers-to-replace-smolka-to-face-omalley-at-ufc-264/
Now it's chaos time in Heavyweight division of UFC and it seems that Gane profited a lot from all this failed negotiation with Dana White and Francis Ngannou team.
Nobody is even talking about Jon Jones anymore, and he is probably taking some heavy drugs to keep both his muscles and mental health during this period.
I believe that Derrick Lewis can beat Gane and than he will probably fight with Ngannou, but let's wait and see what really happens in next few weeks.
One cancelation for UFC 264 as Louis Smolka withdraw from his fight with Sean O'Malley and UFC is looking for some replacement fighter.
Nobody is even talking about Jon Jones anymore, and he is probably taking some heavy drugs to keep both his muscles and mental health during this period.
I believe that Derrick Lewis can beat Gane and than he will probably fight with Ngannou, but let's wait and see what really happens in next few weeks.
One cancelation for UFC 264 as Louis Smolka withdraw from his fight with Sean O'Malley and UFC is looking for some replacement fighter.
Edit: ^ WAIT WHAT???
Edit: So what exactly happened? I don’t see anything except something about Dana White and the manager.
I’m starting to be slightly convinced with Gane but I’d like to see him to see him matched up with a really good wrestler.. Curtis Blaydes! If Gane beats that guy, I think he’ll beat Miocic everywhere imho.
I think Gane vs Jon Jones is intriguing too.
Edit: So what exactly happened? I don’t see anything except something about Dana White and the manager.
Agree. Gane should be tested by Miocic. Or anyone else that was close to a belt fight. But I think, that Stepe will win Gane. And if that happens, it will be an awkward situation for Dana. He could not give Gane a fight against Ngannou and we will see Ngannou vs Miocic 3 
I’m starting to be slightly convinced with Gane but I’d like to see him to see him matched up with a really good wrestler.. Curtis Blaydes! If Gane beats that guy, I think he’ll beat Miocic everywhere imho.
I think Gane vs Jon Jones is intriguing too.
Big news, UFC 265 fight is scheduled with Derrick Lewis vs Ciryl Gane interim heavyweight championship main event on August 7th!
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
Interim title, interesting... Why there is an interim title fight, when there is a champ already. Looks like we dont have a champ in heavyweight then? Maybe Ngannou has lost a fighters license or a reason and now we will have a interim title fight? Or perhaps this is all about money again. Ngannou asked a lot of money, Dana put him on the bench and will call out when he would be interested in him again. Or Ngannou has moved to other organization (unlikely) or is having a boxing match for a million cheque
As I wrote in a post earlier and as reported per Bloodyelbow, it's a matter of pay, and since Ngannou defied the almighty UFC, they decided to punish him. This has nothing to do with Lewis being ready for a title shot, UFC would not go to those lengths to accommodate Lewis, so it's purely a show of force by UFC.
Big news, UFC 265 fight is scheduled with Derrick Lewis vs Ciryl Gane interim heavyweight championship main event on August 7th!
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
Interim title, interesting... Why there is an interim title fight, when there is a champ already. Looks like we dont have a champ in heavyweight then? Maybe Ngannou has lost a fighters license or a reason and now we will have a interim title fight? Or perhaps this is all about money again. Ngannou asked a lot of money, Dana put him on the bench and will call out when he would be interested in him again. Or Ngannou has moved to other organization (unlikely) or is having a boxing match for a million cheque
There is change of things in the Heavy Weight division than expected, i thought Derrick Lewis will be facing Francis Ngannou for the belt but now news is coming out about an interim UFC Heavyweight Championship bout between Derrick Lewis and Ciryl Gane and it is expected to take place at UFC 265.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
I'd say standard UFC shenanigans, and from what I have read and what has been going on recently, it's mostly due to money. Now, there are both sides to that. Is Francis asking to much and overshooting his stardom, and is UFC just underpaying everyone. Here is an article on the interim situation. Not much detail but still https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/6/28/22554776/francis-ngannou-expresses-shock-after-ufc-books-interim-title
There is change of things in the Heavy Weight division than expected, i thought Derrick Lewis will be facing Francis Ngannou for the belt but now news is coming out about an interim UFC Heavyweight Championship bout between Derrick Lewis and Ciryl Gane and it is expected to take place at UFC 265.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
I wonder what happened to Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis match up and whether we will be seeing the debut of Jon Jones fighting for the Heavyweight title this year.
In this Screenshot, I think this is a clean shot that Ciryl Gane had launched to Volkov but Alexander Volkov doesn't hurt by it at all, in my opinion, Gane is definitely delivering brutal attacks to Volkov but he doesn't really hurt by it at all, that is why I think that Gane does have tactics, skills, and technique but lacks power, the whole round, Volkov can withstand Gane's brutal attack his level of durability is sure awesome, or Gane really lacks the power to force Volkov to TKO,
Ciryl Gane is a technical fighter and a kick boxer and he might not be having one punch knockout power but he knows how to win fights and that is what is interesting and do not underestimate the chin of Alexander Volkov, he was only knocked out once by Derrick Lewis in a fight he was winning till the end in a career spanning 42 fights in the Heavyweight division.My conclusion with this I think that Ciryl Gane is half ready for a Francis Ngannou fight, he can surely outspeed Ngannou but he can not hurt Francis Ngannou that much, but before Francis Ngannou, I think Stipe Miocic could be the right opponent for him if he can accumulate power in his strikes in preparation for the Ngannou fight.
Francis Ngannou is raw power and i have no idea who has the power to knockout Francis Ngannou, the fight i wished to see was Anthony Johnson and Francis Ngannou when i heard he was coming out of retirement but unfortunately he signed with Bellator and we wont be able to see that power punching battle.
Big news, UFC 265 fight is scheduled with Derrick Lewis vs Ciryl Gane interim heavyweight championship main event on August 7th!
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
I don't understand why this is interim title, and even this is a shock even for Francis Ngannou team, because his last fight was only few months ago in March 27th.
There was speculation that Derrick Lewis should fight with Francis Ngannou and it's not clear why that is now canceled, and Gane just finished and won his fight with Alexander Volkov.
Agree. Gane should be tested by Miocic. Or anyone else that was close to a belt fight. But I think, that Stepe will win Gane. And if that happens, it will be an awkward situation for Dana. He could not give Gane a fight against Ngannou and we will see Ngannou vs Miocic 3
I had totally wrong predictions for this UFC event, Gane was much better than Volkov and he fully deserved to win.
Even though Gane succeeded in defeating Volkov with absolute numbers in that fight, in my opinion the fight between Gane vs Volkov was quite boring and even far from the fight I expected, I think the fighting style is almost the same as that shown by Gane in the previous fight against Rozenstruik, which is when Gane fights more tactically, and tends to be more safe and we can see how Gane is just trying to give Volkov a destructive blow slowly in that fight. At the beginning of the fight, I personally expected there to be a few gane blow that could Knock Out volkov but in fact there were no brutal attacks that were launched by gane to volkov at all.
In this Screenshot, I think this is a clean shot that Ciryl Gane had launched to Volkov but Alexander Volkov doesn't hurt by it at all, in my opinion, Gane is definitely delivering brutal attacks to Volkov but he doesn't really hurt by it at all, that is why I think that Gane does have tactics, skills, and technique but lacks power, the whole round, Volkov can withstand Gane's brutal attack his level of durability is sure awesome, or Gane really lacks the power to force Volkov to TKO,
My conclusion with this I think that Ciryl Gane is half ready for a Francis Ngannou fight, he can surely outspeed Ngannou but he can not hurt Francis Ngannou that much, but before Francis Ngannou, I think Stipe Miocic could be the right opponent for him if he can accumulate power in his strikes in preparation for the Ngannou fight.
You thoughts guys, will Conor manage to win this fight or he has lost his left hand magic ?
The magic left hand of Conor McGregor will work against 145 pound division fighters and once he moved up he did not find the same success against elite fighters and if he looses this fight he can venture into other avenue like boxing or he will be forced to move down to 145 pound once again and i doubt he will be willing to cut that much weight when he made a billion dollars.Gilbert Burns and Stephen Thompson is an interesting fight, Karate against ground specialist.
Tai Tuivasa and Greg Hardy depends who can land the first punch.
Sean O'Malley fight depends upon how he manages his fitness.
I had totally wrong predictions for this UFC event, Gane was much better than Volkov and he fully deserved to win.
Even though Gane succeeded in defeating Volkov with absolute numbers in that fight, in my opinion the fight between Gane vs Volkov was quite boring and even far from the fight I expected, I think the fighting style is almost the same as that shown by Gane in the previous fight against Rozenstruik, which is when Gane fights more tactically, and tends to be more safe and we can see how Gane is just trying to give Volkov a destructive blow slowly in that fight. At the beginning of the fight, I personally expected there to be a few gane blow that could Knock Out volkov but in fact there were no brutal attacks that were launched by gane to volkov at all.
What a card last night was. I actually missed a few fights, because I didn't realize it was such a early start. I found the Gane fight a little underwhelming, and I really thought Volkov would have come out with something more. While the scorecards more or less reflected Gane's dominance, I didn't think it was as wide of a gap. I thought Volkov at least secured either the 1st or 4th round. Can't argue with the result though, Gane just did enough.
I agree with you and Sal D'Amato and disagree with the two other judges. For me Volkov won the first round. Moreover UFC stats are clear, he landed 25 strikes in the first round against only 16 strikes for Ciryl Gane. Even if his strikes were mostly low kicks he was the one attacking and dominating the fight. https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-june-26-2021#9120
Anyway I don't give him another round and I 'm convinced he was the overall loser of the bout.
yeah, getting into those details can be overwhelming sometimes. If it was a closer fight that might be a problem. But Volkov lacked the consistency he had in the first round and that was the major factor of his loss. Looking at it now, I can't really figure out what he would have to do to stay relevant in the top. Actually, if it's just conditioning then that is a major and maybe unsolvable issue for him.
I think it is alright for the judges to give Gane the first round even though Sal D'Amato has given the first round to Volkov, I have seen that Gane had withstood each strike of Alexander Volkov, and Gane has also given a variety of strikes aswell, I will also give the 1st round for Ciryl Gane, not being bias, the judges have seen a technical advantage on Gane's part, that they have given that round to him, and even though Volvok would take that lead of strike the difference is pretty much unnoticeable, Ciryl Gane's speed was dominating that first round,
What a card last night was. I actually missed a few fights, because I didn't realize it was such a early start. I found the Gane fight a little underwhelming, and I really thought Volkov would have come out with something more. While the scorecards more or less reflected Gane's dominance, I didn't think it was as wide of a gap. I thought Volkov at least secured either the 1st or 4th round. Can't argue with the result though, Gane just did enough.
I agree with you and Sal D'Amato and disagree with the two other judges. For me Volkov won the first round. Moreover UFC stats are clear, he landed 25 strikes in the first round against only 16 strikes for Ciryl Gane. Even if his strikes were mostly low kicks he was the one attacking and dominating the fight. https://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-fight-night-june-26-2021#9120
Anyway I don't give him another round and I 'm convinced he was the overall loser of the bout.
yeah, getting into those details can be overwhelming sometimes. If it was a closer fight that might be a problem. But Volkov lacked the consistency he had in the first round and that was the major factor of his loss. Looking at it now, I can't really figure out what he would have to do to stay relevant in the top. Actually, if it's just conditioning then that is a major and maybe unsolvable issue for him.
UFC 264: Poirier vs. McGregor 3
Date: July 11, 2021
Main Card: SUN, JUL 11 / 5:00 AM EEST
Prelims: SUN, JUL 11 / 3:00 AM EEST
Early Prelims: SUN, JUL 11 / 1:15 AM EEST
Venue: Paradise, Nevada, United States
Main card (ESPN)
Lightweight: Dustin Poirier vs. Conor McGregor
Welterweight: Gilbert Burns vs. Stephen Thompson
Heavyweight: Tai Tuivasa vs. Greg Hardy
Women’s Bantamweight: Irene Aldana vs. Yana Kunitskaya
Bantamweight: Sean O'Malley vs. Louis Smolka
Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Welterweight: Carlos Condit vs. Max Griffin
Welterweight: Niko Price vs. Michel Pereira
Middleweight: Dricus du Plessis vs. Trevin Giles
Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Featherweight: Ryan Hall vs. Ilia Topuria
Women’s Flyweight: Jessica Eye vs. Jennifer Maia
Middleweight: Omari Akhmedov vs. Brad Tavares
Flyweight: Zhalgas Zhumagulov vs. Jerome Rivera
Middleweight: Alen Amedovski vs. Hu Yaozong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_264
Looks like a great event. Even Prelims have something to watch.
You thoughts guys, will Conor manage to win this fight or he has lost his left hand magic ?
Date: July 11, 2021
Main Card: SUN, JUL 11 / 5:00 AM EEST
Prelims: SUN, JUL 11 / 3:00 AM EEST
Early Prelims: SUN, JUL 11 / 1:15 AM EEST
Venue: Paradise, Nevada, United States
Main card (ESPN)
Lightweight: Dustin Poirier vs. Conor McGregor
Welterweight: Gilbert Burns vs. Stephen Thompson
Heavyweight: Tai Tuivasa vs. Greg Hardy
Women’s Bantamweight: Irene Aldana vs. Yana Kunitskaya
Bantamweight: Sean O'Malley vs. Louis Smolka
Preliminary card (ESPN+)
Welterweight: Carlos Condit vs. Max Griffin
Welterweight: Niko Price vs. Michel Pereira
Middleweight: Dricus du Plessis vs. Trevin Giles
Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Featherweight: Ryan Hall vs. Ilia Topuria
Women’s Flyweight: Jessica Eye vs. Jennifer Maia
Middleweight: Omari Akhmedov vs. Brad Tavares
Flyweight: Zhalgas Zhumagulov vs. Jerome Rivera
Middleweight: Alen Amedovski vs. Hu Yaozong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_264
Looks like a great event. Even Prelims have something to watch.
You thoughts guys, will Conor manage to win this fight or he has lost his left hand magic ?
I had totally wrong predictions for this UFC event, Gane was much better than Volkov and he fully deserved to win.
I just placed two bets for this event which was Ciryl Gane and Tim Means and both won and i was not confident about the rest of the fight card.He is probably one of the fastest heavyweight fighters and he can challenge other top fighters soon with his prefect 9-0 record, and he even called out Francis Ngannou for title fight.
Derrick Lewis will probably fight Ngannou next, but maybe Gane can fight with Stipe Miocic.
The next title fight will be Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis and that is almost settled and then the winner will face Jon Jones and that is what Dana White said in one of the press conference and in the mean time Ciryl Gane and Stipe Miocic can battle it out. Derrick Lewis will probably fight Ngannou next, but maybe Gane can fight with Stipe Miocic.
I had totally wrong predictions for this UFC event, Gane was much better than Volkov and he fully deserved to win.
He is probably one of the fastest heavyweight fighters and he can challenge other top fighters soon with his prefect 9-0 record, and he even called out Francis Ngannou for title fight.
Derrick Lewis will probably fight Ngannou next, but maybe Gane can fight with Stipe Miocic.
He is probably one of the fastest heavyweight fighters and he can challenge other top fighters soon with his prefect 9-0 record, and he even called out Francis Ngannou for title fight.
Derrick Lewis will probably fight Ngannou next, but maybe Gane can fight with Stipe Miocic.
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