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August 20, 2020, 08:40:51 AM
Does anybody have any good leans for this weekend's card?  All I got that kinda 'feels ok' is Hubbard ML at 2.12 and maybe Valiev vs Streigl under 2.5 rounds at 2.88.

It seems like a sloppy card for betting imo.
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August 19, 2020, 05:07:05 PM
Also, Dana has a problem. A good problem hehehe! Who will fight Stipe first?

Jon Jones and Francis Ngannou are his pets and Dana hates Stipe because he is not marketable. I reckon that he might let his pets fight Stipe subsequently and hope one of them wins hehe.

From what I saw today it seems Dana has already decided that Francis has to fight Stipe first and Bones needs to have a fight or 2 before he gets a chance to fight for the title in heavyweight.

Dana really hopes and wants Francis to be his poster boy for heavyweight division and Stipe stands in the way, not marketable Stipe...

I don't think it will go this way as Dana has planned, Bones won't like this and Stipe will also have a thing or two to say about this first.

Let's see how this will untangle.
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August 18, 2020, 11:55:03 PM
@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.



Jones had been ruling the roost of the light heavyweight division in his second title reign. Throughout the UFC 252 broadcast, “Bones” had fight fans buzzing with his social media posts expressing interest in a move to heavyweight. Jones took to his Twitter account to reveal that he has informed the UFC that he’s relinquishing his 205-pound gold.

“Just got off the phone with @Ufc, today I confirm that I’m vacating the light heavyweight championship. It’s officially up for grabs. It’s been an amazing journey, sincere thank you to all my competition, Ufc and most importantly you fans.”


Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-vacated-ufc-light-heavyweight-title/

I read that today too, he mad a great play that will get him a lot of money if I interpreted it correctly.

He relinquished his belt and said he is going to enjoy his vacation and not fight, which put put Dana in a spot where he does not want to be. Meaning UFC without Jones Cheesy So he forced Dana's hand that way and probably immediately got a good offer on the table for the next fight in heavyweight division Cheesy

Pretty intelligent play if I'm correct in my interpretation Cheesy

Also, Dana has a problem. A good problem hehehe! Who will fight Stipe first?

Jon Jones and Francis Ngannou are his pets and Dana hates Stipe because he is not marketable. I reckon that he might let his pets fight Stipe subsequently and hope one of them wins hehe.
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August 18, 2020, 06:56:21 PM
Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley -For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera
This is the second time he is having the same injury during a fight and i think the body of Sean O'Malley is brittle and could get injured easily and in this fight Marlon Vera was smart enough to take advantage of the situation and finish the fight while his other opponent Andre Soukhamthath failed to take advantage of the injury.

The calf kick is effective against some fighters and i have seen the same injury for Michael Chandler during the fight and he is usually a durable fighter but the kick on the calf by Primus had the same affect like we saw with Sean O' Malley and for any fight fans of Michael Chandler we might see him in the UFC as he is a free agent and he is meeting with Dana White and i hope to see him in the UFC.

Anthony Johnson is returning and the announced that he will be going to the light heavyweight division because Jones said he is vacating the belt and DC retired.
Anthony Johnson is planning to return for over a year and early he was said to be coming back as a heavyweight fighter and he is massive and how can he reduce that kind of muscle to get back to light heavyweight.
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August 18, 2020, 06:19:18 PM
@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.
Francis Ngannou has nuclear power in his hands, even if he is sloppy if he connects one shot then the fight is over, in the fight against Stipe Miocic took some big shots and he took a long break because of the impact of that fight and when he returned one shot from DC knocked him out and i now think that it is because of the heavy shots he took from the Ngannou fight.

Jon Jones has gone insane as he is vacating the belt even before getting a heavyweight title shot nor getting an opponent, looks like he is bored fighting at light heavyweight or may be he wants to shine when DC decides to retire and he wanted to divert the attention to him  Cheesy.

Anthony Johnson is returning and the announced that he will be going to the light heavyweight division because Jones said he is vacating the belt and DC retired.
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August 18, 2020, 04:56:38 PM
@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.



Jones had been ruling the roost of the light heavyweight division in his second title reign. Throughout the UFC 252 broadcast, “Bones” had fight fans buzzing with his social media posts expressing interest in a move to heavyweight. Jones took to his Twitter account to reveal that he has informed the UFC that he’s relinquishing his 205-pound gold.

“Just got off the phone with @Ufc, today I confirm that I’m vacating the light heavyweight championship. It’s officially up for grabs. It’s been an amazing journey, sincere thank you to all my competition, Ufc and most importantly you fans.”


Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-vacated-ufc-light-heavyweight-title/

I read that today too, he mad a great play that will get him a lot of money if I interpreted it correctly.

He relinquished his belt and said he is going to enjoy his vacation and not fight, which put put Dana in a spot where he does not want to be. Meaning UFC without Jones Cheesy So he forced Dana's hand that way and probably immediately got a good offer on the table for the next fight in heavyweight division Cheesy

Pretty intelligent play if I'm correct in my interpretation Cheesy
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August 18, 2020, 02:09:26 PM
Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley - For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera,

Stipe Miocic Def Daniel Cormier - I can really say is Cormier really did everything he could to win but for me, he got talent as a commentator than a fighter but then again respect for giving a great fight in fighting Miocic.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik Def Junior Dos Santos - At first we can see the spinning kick of Dos Santos connecting to Rozenstruik, but Jairzinho got the opportunity and seize the moment and waiting for the right timing he could deliver it to Dos Santos Jairzinho Rozenstruik is pretty much to hard to take down.
Sean got hurt in the back of the knee and actually I saw a video about his injury which might be true and you should check it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5tdgQAZuVY

Basically he lost the feeling on the leg after getting hit on some nerve and hence twisted his feet after that.

What I do not like was how Marlon Vera was shouting like he knocked out Sean with a single punch and kept on saying idiotic things in the interview after that. I mean yes you win, but clearly because of the injury and have some calmness if not respect for the opponent.

Eye pokes again in the Miocic vs Cormier fight so I don't know what to say about that fight since Miocic has done it only this time while Cormier gets to feel how it hurts when he used to do it against Miocic in previous fights.

JDS was looking good but Rozen's power was too much.
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August 18, 2020, 05:05:47 AM
Marlon Vera Def Sean O'Malley - For me, 2 out of 3 bet win is a great thing I really think that 1 lost is a coincidental one and because of an injury during the fight, well this is just my opinion and no hard feeling with the fans of Marlon Vera,

Stipe Miocic Def Daniel Cormier - I can really say is Cormier really did everything he could to win but for me, he got talent as a commentator than a fighter but then again respect for giving a great fight in fighting Miocic.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik Def Junior Dos Santos - At first we can see the spinning kick of Dos Santos connecting to Rozenstruik, but Jairzinho got the opportunity and seize the moment and waiting for the right timing he could deliver it to Dos Santos Jairzinho Rozenstruik is pretty much to hard to take down.
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August 17, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
@ene1980. Francis Ngannou might be another hype train. It was shown once before in his fight versus Stipe and it might be shown again if Dana feeds Jon Jones to him hehe.

Jon Jones has left his title in light heavyweight.



Jones had been ruling the roost of the light heavyweight division in his second title reign. Throughout the UFC 252 broadcast, “Bones” had fight fans buzzing with his social media posts expressing interest in a move to heavyweight. Jones took to his Twitter account to reveal that he has informed the UFC that he’s relinquishing his 205-pound gold.

“Just got off the phone with @Ufc, today I confirm that I’m vacating the light heavyweight championship. It’s officially up for grabs. It’s been an amazing journey, sincere thank you to all my competition, Ufc and most importantly you fans.”


Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-vacated-ufc-light-heavyweight-title/
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August 17, 2020, 10:34:32 AM
Also, Khabib has said that his next opponent after Justin Gaethje would be anyone who wins versus Dustin Poirier. I speculate Dana now is calling his main pet Conor McGregor to rematch Dustin hehehehe.
Khabib is really smart as he knows that a fight against Conor McGregor could help Dustin Poirier make a fortune and if he makes a stipulation like this McGregor will be forced to fight Poirier and i feel like McGregor is avoiding tough fights in the division.

DC was slow throughout the fight and the age was showing up or there was a lack of training as he was struggling to put his domination by wrestling Stipe.

Two undefeated tasted defeat in recent fight cards Sean O'Malley suffered injury during the fight while Edmen Shahbazyan took a beating. Is there any hype trains in the upcoming fight cards where we could see another aspect.
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August 17, 2020, 09:38:30 AM
UFC on ESPN: Munhoz vs. Edgar



Date: August 23, 2020
Preliminary Card : SUN, AUG 23 / 3:30 AM EEST
Main Card: SUN, AUG 23 / 12:30 AM EEST
Venue: UFC APEX Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Main card (ESPN)
Bantamweight: Pedro Munhoz vs. Frankie Edgar            
Light Heavyweight: Ovince Saint Preux    vs. Alonzo Menifield            
Light Heavyweight: Marcin Prachnio vs. Mike Rodríguez            
Welterweight: Daniel Rodriguez vs. Takashi Sato
Preliminary card (ESPN)
Women's Strawweight: Amanda Lemos    vs. Mizuki Inoue            
Lightweight: Austin Hubbard vs. Joe Solecki            
Women's Flyweight: Mariya Agapova vs. Shana Dobson            
Welterweight: Dwight Grant vs. Jared Gooden            
Light Heavyweight: Jorge Gonzalez vs. Isaac Villanueva            
Bantamweight: Timur Valiev vs. Mark Striegl

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Munhoz_vs._Edgar
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August 16, 2020, 10:15:45 PM
It appears that Dana has created a new storyboard for his other pet Daniel Cormier hehe. He said that Daniel had an eye problem before the fight that might have compromised his performance. He also said that he reckons Daniel might not retire after the loss.

Also, Khabib has said that his next opponent after Justin Gaethje would be anyone who wins versus Dustin Poirier. I speculate Dana now is calling his main pet Conor McGregor to rematch Dustin hehehehe.
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August 16, 2020, 11:10:25 AM


Stipe Miocic vs Daniel Cormier:  One of the best UFC Trilogy I've ever watched in my life. Props for the both fighters displaying an intense fight.

Marlon Vera vs Sean O'Malley: The hype is already over and the Suga show got cancelled too early. I hope O'Malley will comeback with tremendous wins with his upcoming fights.

Jairzinho Rozenstruik vs Junior dos Santos: Watch out for Rozenstruik he's coming for the belt. Before that will happen I would like to see first Stipe Miocic vs Francis Ngannou for the Heavy Weight Champion, maybe soon.
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August 16, 2020, 02:22:08 AM
Finally DC can retire and get back to his family. He looks more like a family guy to me than as a fighter frankly. Not the best performance to end a career, but surely a great fight.
If he continues to fight, who would be his next opponent?
To go the distance against the champion and the one who faced Francis Ngannou without much trouble you have to give that to Daniel Cormier to fight at the top and still hand around the best at 41 years old and it is not a small feat. The only fight Daniel Cormier would return could be against Brock Lesnar which could be a really big fight and if that is not available he will retire for good and he had an great career in two divisions.

Here is the results.



Some unexpected upsets especially Sean O’Malley and Herbert Burns.


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August 16, 2020, 01:50:59 AM
Finally DC can retire and get back to his family. He looks more like a family guy to me than as a fighter frankly. Not the best performance to end a career, but surely a great fight.
If he continues to fight, who would be his next opponent? Either someone not from a top and that fight might be boring and not look impressive to be his “last fight in career”, or he might face someone like Ngannou and that fight might not end well for DC.
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August 16, 2020, 01:37:25 AM
And now the main event. I am rooting for DC to win and retire.

Edit:
One hell of a war for the main event and Stipe Miocic retained the belt and Daniel Cormier should retire as he is not able to fight like he used to and age has caught up with him and Stipe Miocic controlled majority of the fight.

Agree that DC needs to retire. His reflexes is not the same before and also he is not on his prime anymore. He might get a chance to win if he successfully take down stipe and also if his eyes is not poked badly. His eyes was badly injured in the second half of the match. Many players surely loss on this game because DC has the upper hand in terms of betting odds and yet he was completely dominated on the fight.

I can’t say that they show an impressive match. Actually I enjoy more on watching there undercard matches which results to more KO/TKO.
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August 15, 2020, 11:19:44 PM
^^^ I am really disappointed with Herbert Burns who missed weight and he was not even competitive in the fight against Daniel Pineda who was controlling when the fight went to the ground and on the fight and Burns gassed out trying to improve his positions and he failed miserably on the ground.

Sean O'Malley was a unfortunate one as he injured during the fight and it looks like he broke his right leg and Marlon Vera seeing that took the opportunity and went for the finish, if not it would be a great fight and i was rooting for Sean O'Malley to win but it was the worst ways to get defeated.

And now the main event. I am rooting for DC to win and retire.

Edit:
One hell of a war for the main event and Stipe Miocic retained the belt and Daniel Cormier should retire as he is not able to fight like he used to and age has caught up with him and Stipe Miocic controlled majority of the fight.
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August 15, 2020, 07:46:32 PM
This week's leans. Check my thread for the write-ups/reasons behind those leans. Best of luck everyone! Grind on!  Grin

UFC 252  Wink
*The leans below will not count to my stats here in this thread. Follow or fade, it's up to you!

Take JOHN DODSON over Merab Dvalishvili (10:10p.m., Saturday, August 15th)


Take DANIEL PINEDA over Herbert Burns (10:35p.m., Saturday, August 15th)


Take JUNIOR DOS SANTOS over Jairzinho Rozenstruik (11:00p.m., Saturday, August 15th)


Take MARLON VERA over Sean O'Malley ((11:25p.m., Saturday, August 15th)
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August 15, 2020, 05:06:23 PM
Few more hours left till the main thing. It will be tough to watch Stipe Miopic, like every fight was, but hope his immigrant mentality kicks in at he right time and he goes after DC this time from the get go. He looked a bit to calm to me so far and I'm a bit worried he might struggle again at the beginning of the fight.
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August 15, 2020, 10:31:08 AM
^  Yup.  Cormier is also 41.  He'll prolly gas eventually no matter how in shape he is...  Just like the last bout.

And follow Miocic at IG.  He's leaner and could be lighter on his feet to avoid just standing there in front of Cormier like what happened the last time.

It's Dos Santos to win for me.  Roz for all his power just doesn't throw enough.  Aaand don't forget, Roz just got starched by Ngannou three months ago.  I think he needs to give fighting a rest a bit longer before going back in there.

Some vids...

UFC 252:  Embedded 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeqNGzsOEaw

UFC 252:  Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8DGsM46CxE

DC looks beef up on this video and Miocic really is leaner and might be faster than Cormier, and Sean O'Malley could doing some practice on the ground submissions base on his interview with DC praising this kid, well Miocic is a great guy but seeing Miocic could make you wonder if Cormier can make a win this time that is why my bet in on him.

And Rozenstruik might Stached by Francis Ngannou back then but I feel like this Dos Santos fight could be different I sure feel that it will be Roz going out the winner.


Marlon Vera is the toughest opponent Sean O'Malley is facing in his career and his two losses in the amateur bout was by submission and Marlon Vera does have some slick submissions and never lost a fight by knockout. I am going with Sean O'Malley because of his striking skills.


Sean O'Malley should stick to his Striking skill and what he does best, but he surely like how submission could offer a different feeling for him because he like jiu jitsu that he's willing to try and do submission than he's usual forte that he does.
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