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May 26, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
^  Hah!  We'll see...  He does need to sell the fight esp after the biggest loss of his life.  Wink  I just hope it won't be something like Adesanya vs Romero.  Lol.  Wrong move by giving Romero a chance imo.  Adesnya should've just waited it out til Costa could fight.

Here's the Burns match somebody itt was talking about.

Free Fight:  Burns vs Maia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oafaEf0cqx0

Edit:  Just watched it.  I'm not convinced.  I need to watch more of him.
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May 26, 2020, 12:39:13 PM
Listen to Tyron Woodley on what he thinks about his fight with Gilbert Burns
He says he's planning to be "violent". One thing that made sense is that the fight will be for five rounds. It's not what Burns used to which is 3 rounds.
 Tyron Woodley is doing too much stuff, music and television appearance and he is confident in winning the fight and so does his opponent, what Tyron Woodley is telling that he is really aggressive and he is cussing on his sparring partners to have that mentality and feel that is cringe on a different level  Cheesy. Looking at the experience level of Woodley i assume he could win standing up but this fight determines whether Tyron Woodley will be a title contender after the fight.

Tyron Woodley "Revenge" is slick.
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May 26, 2020, 12:31:39 AM
Listen to Tyron Woodley on what he thinks about his fight with Gilbert Burns - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3i19ghFiIE
He says he's planning to be "violent". One thing that made sense is that the fight will be for five rounds. It's not what Burns used to which is 3 rounds.

Woodley also posted his music video with caption "Allow me to reintroduce myself"
Revenge - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yody2Qm18Ms
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May 25, 2020, 04:46:18 PM
Woodley should be easy money, the last times i bet on this fighter it brings some nice profit, so, let's see what he has for us on this event.
Is awesome to see how UFC moves on even with the big problem we are having right now around the world. Nice move from Dana White
I was thinking it is an easy fight for Tyron Woodley but after reading some of the conversation here and after having some research i have my doubts because this is the first fight Tyron Woodley returns after loosing his belt while his opponent was busy and pilling up experience and wins in the division and now Burns is in a position that he could get a title fight if he defeats Woodley. I need to see his weigh ins and mental status to predict this fight.
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May 25, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
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I expect to see great main event Woodley vs Burns,
and Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.

Woodley should be easy money, the last times i bet on this fighter it brings some nice profit, so, let's see what he has for us on this event.

Is awesome to see how UFC moves on even with the big problem we are having right now around the world. Nice move from Dana White
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May 25, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
I might have missed Burns vs Maia.  Will try to have a look see if I could find that match somehwere online.  

And it's all about stand up with Woodley...  Usually at least.  I don't think I've seen him shoot take downs as part of his main game at the UFC.
You are lucky as UFC published their fight Gilbert Burns vs Demian Maia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oafaEf0cqx0 in youtube  Wink.

Styles makes fights and Woodely is a decorated wrestler but he knows the danger if he takes down Gilbert Burns and the credentials i said about Gilbert Burns is he was a former  IBJJF champion as well Abu Dhabi Pro Champion which are the top grappling competition in the world. Going by the math which is really difficult in MMA i expect this to be a stand up fight.

PS: Only Nate Marquardt knocked Demian Maia out the other knockout loss was due to injury and Burns was his careers third knockout loss.
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May 25, 2020, 06:24:21 AM
Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.
Antonina Shevchenko is facing a tough fighter in Katlyn Chookagian and the fun part is she just fought the other Shevchenko sister in her last fight for the  Flyweight Championship and i have not seen Antonina Shevchenko against tough opponents and Chookagian will be her toughest opponent till date.

^  I don't know much about Burns but being a BJJ guy, the match could end up being like Woodley vs Maia...?  A borefest.
Gilbert Burns is a second degree BJJ specialist but in his recent fight against Demian Maia he knocked him out cold in the first round which i did not expect and when he faced Gunnar Nelson i though Gunnar Nelson would win but Burns surprised me with a decision win. I expect Woodley to try the stand up game because Burns is a submission specialist on the ground with legit grappling credentials.

I might have missed Burns vs Maia.  Will try to have a look see if I could find that match somehwere online.  

And it's all about stand up with Woodley...  Usually at least.  I don't think I've seen him shoot take downs as part of his main game at the UFC.
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May 25, 2020, 06:23:46 AM
But take note, we need to consider the adjustments he will do. Of course, Jon will become bigger thus becoming slower. We can't conclude that he can have the same speed and cardio when he finally enter the HW division lol.
If a fighter is not cutting any weight how come that will slow him down, he will be in the best shape of his life as he is not draining his body two days before the fight to cut the weight and it is not a disadvantage but an advantage.

It's different when you are just walking around and chillin' as a heavyweight than actually fighting. He's been fighting as LHW for years and any recent change in weight class would definitely affect how he fights in the octagon. At LHW, he can last for five rounds or even more and if he'll use the same pace as a HW in the octagon, that's going to affect his cardio. Not to mention the power of natural HWs have in their punches, it's going to wear him down if he gets hit.
It is not going to be easy when you are fighting in heavyweight but they are not that technically sound nor fast, fighting is always a mind game if you neglect the heavy punches which Jon Jones knows really well and stamina will not be an issue as i have seen him battle out many situations during championship rounds.
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May 25, 2020, 05:04:51 AM
Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.
Antonina Shevchenko is facing a tough fighter in Katlyn Chookagian and the fun part is she just fought the other Shevchenko sister in her last fight for the  Flyweight Championship and i have not seen Antonina Shevchenko against tough opponents and Chookagian will be her toughest opponent till date.


I agree Shevchenko will have a huge problem with Chookagian even though Shevchenko is the favorite between the two Chookagian has a great exemption with position to bounce back I see a lot of power with Chookagian that Antonina Shevchenko will get in trouble but Katlyn Chookagian likes to keep it on the feet and she is having issues when it goes to the ground I think that Shevchenko is looking for submission again but if Chookagian will let her take that position.
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May 24, 2020, 12:06:15 PM
Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.
Antonina Shevchenko is facing a tough fighter in Katlyn Chookagian and the fun part is she just fought the other Shevchenko sister in her last fight for the  Flyweight Championship and i have not seen Antonina Shevchenko against tough opponents and Chookagian will be her toughest opponent till date.

^  I don't know much about Burns but being a BJJ guy, the match could end up being like Woodley vs Maia...?  A borefest.
Gilbert Burns is a second degree BJJ specialist but in his recent fight against Demian Maia he knocked him out cold in the first round which i did not expect and when he faced Gunnar Nelson i though Gunnar Nelson would win but Burns surprised me with a decision win. I expect Woodley to try the stand up game because Burns is a submission specialist on the ground with legit grappling credentials.
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May 24, 2020, 09:56:51 AM
^  I don't know much about Burns but being a BJJ guy, the match could end up being like Woodley vs Maia...?  A borefest.

Here's one of Woodley's decent matches.

Free Fight:  Woodley vs Lawler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_qbDkY4X48
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May 24, 2020, 07:44:19 AM
UFC Fight Night: WOODLEY VS BURNS
All 11 Fights for UFC on May 30


MAIN CARD
Main Event - Welterweight: Tyron Woodley (19-4-1) vs Gilbert Burns (18-3-0)
Co-Main - Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov (18-3-0, 1NC) vs Augusto Sakai (14-1-1)
Welterweight: Kevin Holland (17-5-0) vs Daniel Rodriguez (10-1-0)
Lightweight: Roosevelt Roberts (9-1-0) vs Brok Weaver (14-4-0)
Women Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern (7-1-0) vs Hannah Cifers (10-4-0)

PRELIMINARY CARD
Women Flyweight: Katlyn Chookagian (13-3-0) vs Antonina Shevchenko (8-1-0)
Catchweight: Billy Quarantillo (13-2-0) vs Spike Carlyle (9-1-0)
Light Heavyweight: Jamahal Hill (7-0-0) vs Klidson Farias de Abreu (15-4-0)
Flyweight: Tim Elliott (15-10-1) vs Brandon Royval (10-4-0)
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka (16-6-0) vs Casey Kenney (13-2-1)
Featherweight: Chris Gutierrez (14-4-0, 1NC) vs Vince Morales (9-4-0)


I expect to see great main event Woodley vs Burns,
and Antonina Shevchenko in women flyweight can be interesting to see.
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May 24, 2020, 02:38:04 AM
1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.
Jon Jones walks around as a natural heavyweight and he does not need to cut any weight and that will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage and it will not affect his cardio as he is not trying to put any extra weight.
It's different when you are just walking around and chillin' as a heavyweight than actually fighting. He's been fighting as LHW for years and any recent change in weight class would definitely affect how he fights in the octagon. At LHW, he can last for five rounds or even more and if he'll use the same pace as a HW in the octagon, that's going to affect his cardio. Not to mention the power of natural HWs have in their punches, it's going to wear him down if he gets hit.
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May 24, 2020, 01:20:03 AM
Jon Jones is making his intentions clear on moving to the heavyweight division and Dana White is not ready to compensate the demands and it might be mainly due to the lack of live gates but eventually we will see that fight.
There is no problem at all. Let'es just wait everything go back to normal so that Dana can make his pockets full once again and invest on such future mega fight Cheesy. What is more important for now is that we are assured that he will move up to HW soon for him to prove us that he is not only good on sh*tty talks but can be a man of his words. I'm really getting excited for this, I can't wait to see if Jon can cope with the new division.
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Heavyweight fighters are known for one shot one skill power punches and it ends at that, if the fight goes the distance they will slow down a lot and majority of the fighters know just to strike and have zero ground skills and if a fighter who is technically stronger can pose danger if they can avoid the power punches and moreover Jones is a great wrestler who has even taken down an Olympian like Daniel Cormier.
But take note, we need to consider the adjustments he will do. Of course, Jon will become bigger thus becoming slower. We can't conclude that he can have the same speed and cardio when he finally enter the HW division lol.
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May 23, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
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I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy.
Heavyweight fighters are known for one shot one skill power punches and it ends at that, if the fight goes the distance they will slow down a lot and majority of the fighters know just to strike and have zero ground skills and if a fighter who is technically stronger can pose danger if they can avoid the power punches and moreover Jones is a great wrestler who has even taken down an Olympian like Daniel Cormier.

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I wouldn't say "dominating" especially with the recent fights. There are also good competitions waiting for him. I would want him to have a rematch with Reyes to put all doubts from their first fight to rest.
Even i would like to see a rematch with Reyes because it was a really close fight and i thought the judges will go with him.

1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.
Jon Jones walks around as a natural heavyweight and he does not need to cut any weight and that will be an advantage rather than a disadvantage and it will not affect his cardio as he is not trying to put any extra weight.

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May 23, 2020, 04:59:14 PM
It appears uncle Dana does want this fight. It also appears that Jon Jones will not fight anyone on light heavyweight to defend the championship after Domimick Reyes.
Jon Jones is making his intentions clear on moving to the heavyweight division and Dana White is not ready to compensate the demands and it might be mainly due to the lack of live gates but eventually we will see that fight.

In one of his recent tweets he mentioned he will be facing Jan Blachowicz since Dana White is not willing to pay for a mega showdown with Francis Ngannou.
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May 23, 2020, 02:49:05 AM
UFC Fight Night: WOODLEY VS BURNS
All 11 Fights for UFC on May 30


MAIN CARD
Main Event - Welterweight: Tyron Woodley (19-4-1) vs Gilbert Burns (18-3-0)
Co-Main - Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov (18-3-0, 1NC) vs Augusto Sakai (14-1-1)
Welterweight: Kevin Holland (17-5-0) vs Daniel Rodriguez (10-1-0)
Lightweight: Roosevelt Roberts (9-1-0) vs Brok Weaver (14-4-0)
Women Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern (7-1-0) vs Hannah Cifers (10-4-0)

PRELIMINARY CARD
Women Flyweight: Katlyn Chookagian (13-3-0) vs Antonina Shevchenko (8-1-0)
Catchweight: Billy Quarantillo (13-2-0) vs Spike Carlyle (9-1-0)
Light Heavyweight: Jamahal Hill (7-0-0) vs Klidson Farias de Abreu (15-4-0)
Flyweight: Tim Elliott (15-10-1) vs Brandon Royval (10-4-0)
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka (16-6-0) vs Casey Kenney (13-2-1)
Featherweight: Chris Gutierrez (14-4-0, 1NC) vs Vince Morales (9-4-0)
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May 23, 2020, 12:43:07 AM
It appears uncle Dana does want this fight. It also appears that Jon Jones will not fight anyone on light heavyweight to defend the championship after Domimick Reyes.



While things were heating up between Jones and Ngannou, the UFC light heavyweight champion took to his Twitter account to reveal that the UFC won’t match his asking price.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/jon-jones-says-ufc-wont-meet-asking-price-for-francis-ngannou-bout/
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May 22, 2020, 11:38:56 PM
Who can imagine Jon Jones fighting in the Heavy Weight category? Even for a Light Heavy Weight fighter he looks slim. He's tall but skinny, so I really think he would be a bad HW fighter.
The guy comes from a family of athletes, he could always bulk up. I remember seeing a picture of him when he was first suspended, he looked huge at the time.

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Jon Jones is dominating all the fighters in Light Heavy Weight division and he proved everything and there is not much competition in the division
I wouldn't say "dominating" especially with the recent fights. There are also good competitions waiting for him. I would want him to have a rematch with Reyes to put all doubts from their first fight to rest.

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the light heavyweight division had some heavy knockout punchers and the reason for Jon Jones to move up is because he knows these fighters are really slow and if he could maintain the distance and with the speed advantage he can win.
I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy.
1. Jones will slow down too if he's going to add more weight. His ever reliable cardio would be affected too.
2. I think we are forgetting is a wrestler and clinching is nothing new to him. In fact, it could be advantageous for him if they go to a clinch. He's a crafty/dirty fighter after all  Grin
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May 22, 2020, 10:19:22 PM
I want to see the rubber match between Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic
Oh yeah! I like the series of events happening in there. Miocic vs Cormier 3 is good and if DC win then Ngannou should be the next in line. Hahaha I still remember the slight fear on DC's face the last time he witnessed how Predator punished Rozenstruik and I want to see the same emotion again Grin. I also wonder if his wrestling skills would be effective for that massive guy.
the light heavyweight division had some heavy knockout punchers and the reason for Jon Jones to move up is because he knows these fighters are really slow and if he could maintain the distance and with the speed advantage he can win.
I don't think that strategy won't work well. Yeah you can run and run inside the octagon and throw jabs but there's a point that both fighters will clinch and brawl. And if that happens, Jon would be in a big trouble. Remember, HW fighters are well known for "one shot, one kill" plays and not sustainability Cheesy.
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