Topic: They found Satoshi? (Read 6744 times)

This isn't to promote embarrassment or admonishment of @dinofelis. No I just want to spread the information (perspective) contained within my rebuttal.


Everything in Bitcoin was calculated for a reason.

Remember Bitcoin is made by the elite for the elite.

And I had already refuted your excessive hashrate cost argument in another thread. You are quite disingenuous because you continue to claim issues that had already been refuted.

You disingenuously continue to pretend they weren't disproved.

So frankly we are reaching the point where we can't continue to have any dialogue because I don't waste my time with people who are disingenuous.





You continue to repeat that lie (opinion) about Bitcoin having clunky design. Bitcoin has a perfect design for what the elite want.

You will suffer the most because you are not preparing for the fact that Bitcoin is a 666 tool of the elite. And you are not preparing for the fact that the EU totalitarianism where you are will get horrifically worse. You think the crisis is over in Europe. Lol.

For me it doesn't matter who coded Bitcoin, but rather whose design principles Bitcoin was modeled on. And what is the outcome of Bitcoin going to be and its impact on the world.

You think Bitcoin is a silly toy that will fade away. I think Bitcoin will become a key part of the new financial system after the global monetary reset coming in the horrific sovereign debt totalitarianism collapse underway.


Why are you sorry? I hate Bitcoin too (long-term, its okay for my uses short-term). But I know Bitcoin is unstoppable although I wish it could be stopped.


You were disproven. You might be blind or disingenuous and unwilling to figure it out, but that is not my responsibility to fix.


So is the entire fiat system. Have you not seen the $quadrillion in global derivatives holding up the fiat system.

You don't understand what money is. Finance is primary user of money, not the masses.

Bitcoin is the high powered reserve currency money of decentralized finance for $billionaires. You have no clue as to what is really going on. You are totally lost.


Which is 95% of all business.

You don't seem to grasp that Bitcoin is how the banksters-gangsters will carry forward their wealth from the collapsing nation-state monetary system to the new one coming after 2024.


I don't like it either, but neither of us can stop it. You are highly underestimating the evil rise of Bitcoin.


Consider the genius is evil. Then you realize Bitcoin could have been designed by an evil genius. The reason you think it is not designed by  genius, because you don't understand the real goal of Bitcoin. Thus you misattribute clumsiness where the truth is it was cleverly designed that way to serve an evil purpose.

Then don't comment. Or try to reason with me as you are doing now, instead of treating me like shit and mocking me as you were doing.


And so did I, when I wrote Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch in March 2013, when I first joined this forum. I also published that at marketoracle as well.


Because it helps me (us) to understand what exactly their plans are for Bitcoin. Now I know they intend it to be a settlement layer.


I've known about that since 2013.


I've known about that since 2007. For example look at when I mentioned it in 2010.


That is why understanding Nash's role (even if only symbolic) and his Ideal Money is so important.


Did I ever say anyone else's research on connecting Bitcoin to the shadow elite was worthless?


You underestimate how many dozens if not 100s of people read my posts. Just because a few trolls like you think you are so important, there are more lurkers who at least are interested to read what I have to say. My technical skills are also legit.


I have secret weapons.

Besides the shadow elite are apt to love the altcoin I will launch, because they will see it as yet another speculation that falls under Bitcoin's umbrella.

I have refuted you in another thread. You had some really dumb errors in your analysis such as claiming that RIPE160 reducing security. No it only reduces the space of addresses increases potential collisions but only astronomically small probability yet saves a lot of scaling space.


The game theory of Bitcoin is a crab bucket mentality Schelling point and nobody can change the protocol, they can only block changes to the protocol. Which is exactly what is happening.

Chinese cartel doesn't control Bitcoin, the protocol controls itself. The Chinese are protecting the protocol precisely as the game theory expects they would.

It is difficult for me to have a discussion with the idiots here in these forums. You guys don't assimilate everything I write.


Thirty idiots who can't assimilate detailed technological research are basically just noise.

I have already explained that Nash was obviously (but likely unwittingly) involved and explained why.

Idiots are not worth my time.

Exactly. Trolls like @Dorky can't seem to grasp the intellectual pursuit. Because they have pea brains.

I doubt he has even bothered to read that very important source document you linked to.

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As I have been explaining since 2014, Bitcoin was created by the global elite who want a NWO. Bitcoin forces the national central banks to become compared to a stable money which has more utility than gold, i.e. a better gold. It kickstarts the process of destroying nation-state fiats. Which is what Nash's ideal money called for as a process of evolution.

The global elite understand the math I showed which shows that all the Bitcoin can become concentrated in one entity, if Bitcoin were to become the most stable global settlement (reserve) currency.

Thus the elite understand that Bitcoin will ultimately be rejected and thus their SDR basket (analogous to the IPCI in Nash's ideal money) will end up being the ultimate NWO reserve currency. Bitcoin may end up in that basket.

I think the elite somehow involved Nash by NSF funding his research on Cooperation in Non-Cooperative Repeated Games and influencing him to continue he paranoid obsession with ideal money which was involved in his life long battle with delusional paranoia.

So somehow they were able to structure Nash's activities to make it plausible that he could have been Satoshi.

I think what the elite did was they seeded some secret group to do the coding and interaction as Satoshi. This was within the national security apparatus aka "DEEP STATE".

They surely killed those who did the original coding by now.

But I think they outsmarted themselves. Or the emergent chaos of nature outsmarted them. Because Bitcoin will give rise to altcoins which move beyond fungible money into the Inverse Commons of the knowledge age.

After feedback from others, further thought and investigation, I now think it is unlikely that the programmer of Bitcoin and the guy who interacted with community through mailing lists and this forum was the famed mathematician John Nash.

However, I think John Nash is still possibly involved unwittingly. It seems it was intentionally made to appear that John Nash could have been Satoshi (which thus of course means Satoshi isn't Nash).

However, it is very peculiar that Nash did not ever speak to the fact that Satoshi's PoW was discovery of a Shapley value for his research on Cooperation in Non-Cooperative Repeated Games and that Bitcoin was the better (more stable) gold that his ideal money plan needed to force nations to compete to make their currencies more stable which is precisely what he predicted could happen by a process of evolution.


The above quote is I think Satoshi trying to defend Bitcoin as a better gold. However, this "Satoshi" also makes statements indicating he hasn't really thought out the game theory of Bitcoin's future very well:




5. Although the "Satoshi" who is speaking to us is aware of the key innovation he has solved w.r.t. to Wei Dai's original work, he explains in terms of synchronization instead of game theory of non-cooperative repeated games:




6. On the marketing side, Satoshi seemed to obfuscate when told his design would not scale to the necessary geek-cool-libertards would want, as Satoshi's only response was #2 quote above:

John Nash IS Satoshi Nakamoto.



is happy! (look he's smiling)

Explains why he doesnt even stop by newsgroups anymore even in face of scaling issue. I think its bullish.. i couldnt think if a better person to ever be satoshi.. it will add to allure because he was a one of a kind genius

Roasted! hahaha.

I think that if there is a news confirming these guy, John Nash to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto, then I think one of the biggest mysteries in our world is been solved, that makes on less mystery to think off. And Satoshi Nakamoto being dead can't help the problem of bitcoin these days. But we need to thank him for making such a good discovery.

if you hold btc it might matter to you.. is it a "ponzi" like your parents say it is or is it part of something bigger.

or dead

You will never find satoshi unless she wants to be found. Period.

iamnotback

Hi, you seems like doing a serious research to find the inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology. I can see you are spending a lots of time online work. Some one said to you, if Satoshi was your biological father - You have answered him with all your ability. Now, I am here to discuss some serious matter with you. The first things is, you will ask me a question, 'who are you ?'  So I have understood you ahead and answering you. Yes, I am, myself who I am. I like your diligent research. So could you please let me know, why have you created this thread ? What do you want people to know from your thread ? What else do you want to know from the people who is following your thread ?

That's not the point. More interesting reading about ideal money and the relationship to bitcoin. I don't care about Satoshi. I do care about bitcoin and the ideas behind it.

hm.... Even if he is or isn't Satoshi Nakamoto, I think that people should stop searching for him like he's a bigfoot or something. If the guy want's to remain anonymous, leave him be. :/

https://thewealthofchips.wordpress.com/2015/06/20/bitcoin-and-coffee/

Boom!

Some good thoughts and links in this article concerning Nash, Ideal Money and Bitcoin

https://thewealthofchips.wordpress.com/2015/05/07/the-levation-of-ideal-money/

Interesting..

"Nash suggested we are to link our currency system to the ICPI. This often leaves people wondering, if bitcoin is ideal money then where is the commodity basket to link bitcoin to? OR how do we link the currency bitcoin to an ideal commodity basket? But as Szabo explains extensively gold or oil themselves CAN in fact function like perfect currencies even though they are in fact commodities. In this light bitcoin starts to make perfect sense. It is a commodity in the sense that it is the perfect currency, based on an ideal printing/mining schedule constructed from a properly adjusted aggregate of commodities. It also has the benefit of super granularity of today’s paper currency and more. If the authors conjecture is true, Bitcoins are backed by the ICPI based schedule, and so always have the ideal quality that John Nash prescribed to them. (The process ideally backed money creates is referred to as asymptotically Ideal Money whereas the limiting result is Ideal Money)"

From.
https://thewealthofchips.wordpress.com/2014/08/31/134/

I think since we now have good evidence that nash was him its extremely bullish for entire crypto community. This should drive adoptio  knowing a world class genius was at the helm

No.

If it's a question it should be.

DID they FIND Satoshi?

You're welcome.

They Found Satoshi?

It that is a question or a statement ?
If it is a question then it should be - Do they found Satoshi ?
If it is a statement then there should not be a question mark (?) at the end.

If it is a statement then my question is who is They ?

There are so many Satoshi in the Bitcoin Space. Which Satoshi are you looking for all these time ?
Is there really any one who is really looking for Satoshi ?