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this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.

Did LFC scam anyone, I missed that part.

Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe LFC was just trying to be polite to bill?  Maybe he wasn't actually intimidated by Lauda, but merely convinced?  It's kind of convenient for bill to portray it as intimidation, now isn't it?
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this thread has been up for 6 years, and it very clearly says to publish PM logs if you are making a scam accusation.

There is no reason why you should expect privacy if you send a PM unencrypted. Period.

I will repeat myself that if you don’t want a PM published in which you said something embarrassing, you should not send a PM containing something embarrassing.
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Are you saying that you deserve a point, because you edited your post and added that in after I had already responded - now to act as though it has been avoided?
Confused.
Responding too quickly usually leads to this; this isn't IM. I edit quite often within the first few minutes of posting.

Do you truly believe in your intimidation claims mr. liar?
Point.
Now answer.

I'm going to stick with the Lauda mafia boss analogy we've been going with here. LFC spilled the beans to you for your sake, because if they did so publicly they'd get "whacked". Then you confront Don Lauda with that information and LFC gets whacked. RIP.
I like the Italian style, makes me feel home. Cool
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I made the "crime" public (to use your analogy), so that there is not another victim, or a continued victim.
If you witness a rape, and the victim doesn't want to speak to the police - do you just walk away?


Well we seem to have finished discussing what needed to be discussed, but I noticed I missed this gem. Its an interesting ethical situation that goes both ways sometimes and with mixed results, at the risk of getting into a conversation that may hit a little too close to home for the public, if you don't mind I'm going to change the scenario just a tad.

I'm going to stick with the Lauda mafia boss analogy we've been going with here. LFC spilled the beans to you for your sake, because if they did so publicly they'd get "whacked". Then you confront Don Lauda with that information and LFC gets whacked. RIP.

Anyway, whats done is done, but in the future maybe consider the intent and implied privacy behind a private message versus something public. I'm with FH on this one, its bad practice.
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Out of curiosity, how would one get the consent to investigate a murder?

Lol, you remind me of a manipulative teenager who refuses to take "no" for an answer.

Bill, you keep digging yourself even deeper.  After some private conversations we had, I added you to my trust list.  I was this close to buying a GPU from you and I would have sent the funds to you upfront without a second thought.

This situation has nothing to do with your interaction with Vod, and your insistence that it does is a convenient delusion.  I decided to remove you from my trust list for that interaction, because I thought you were being frivolous with your review.  But I didn't explicitly ~distrust you and likely would still have sent you $400 without a second thought.

Now I have you explicitly distrusted.  You don't belong on DT, in my opinion.  The trust you gained from the community was rooted in dishonesty and deception.  For three and half years you have deceived this community for your own financial gain.  

Then you publish a private discussion from someone you "consider a friend" and throw that friend under the bus?  In a bid to try to prove you're still trustworthy?

What a joke!

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential.

That's completely irrelevant.  The confidential part is the relevant part, and how can anyone have any confidence in you going forward?
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Are you saying that you deserve a point, because you edited your post and added that in after I had already responded - now to act as though it has been avoided?
Confused.
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Do you truly believe in your intimidation claims mr. liar?
Point.
legendary
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Which part of what we're going through right now is a conspiracy?
Other than bozo's claim that I have half a dozen alts, by their count.

By conspiracy, do you mean you have a different way to explain your lazy DT manipulation? Or are we talking about something else?
You speak so ambiguously, I wish you had it in you to say what's really on your mind.

a PM that was CLEARLY sent in the spirit of being kept confidential

It's amazing to me that you don't see a problem with why they wanted it kept confidential. They are a legendary member, on DT1, that has been respected for years and they are afraid of what Lauda will do to them if they don't bend the knee. I don't keep your information recorded anywhere and that goes for everyone I've ever done a deal with.
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You are a scamming monkey for which about 1% of my brain is needed to beat.


Seems like your brain is broken being unable to provide proof of scam for over 2 years now.

LFC provided the ultimate proof of your abuse and why your bitches are abusing the feedback system with you in the control position.

You must be very pissed about the PM when looking all the hate Bill is getting for it from your monkeys.


Remember such punks like you would be instantly get eaten by me but you are no men enough to reveal your identity you PUSSY
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It's truly saddening to me that your lack of fear towards being DOX'd is stronger than your faith that I would never release such information.
Don't let all that attention go to your head, buddy.

Until you decided to release a PM that was CLEARLY sent in the spirit of being kept confidential, I wasn't worried about either.
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Were I to intimidate anyone, you wouldn't ever be able to prove any of it. Roll Eyes
Who talks like that?
I do ever since Quickscammer tried to attack my reputation 3 years ago with pathetic conspiracy theories. That worked out nicely for him. The stupid likes to project. Do you truly believe in your intimidation claims mr. liar?
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Were I to intimidate anyone, you wouldn't ever be able to prove any of it. Roll Eyes

Who talks like that?


OJ Simpson
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Were I to intimidate anyone, you wouldn't ever be able to prove any of it. Roll Eyes

Who talks like that?



Lauda.
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A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

In another twist of irony if the sender of the PM wanted it posted in the fucking forum he probably would have posted it in the fucking forum instead of sending it privately to one person.

If something is posted that is intended to be read by one specific person and responded to by that person, it would get taken down by the moderators for doing exactly what you describe.

It is horribly ironic to be telling a moderator what types of threads shouldn’t be posted.

Why do you always twist words like that? Where did he say that it against the forum rules?

I didn't, he know's it, QS doesn't like me  Cool
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Were I to intimidate anyone, you wouldn't ever be able to prove any of it. Roll Eyes

Who talks like that?

I'm not all that scared of being dox'd

I get all the attention thanks though!

It's truly saddening to me that your lack of fear towards being DOX'd is stronger than your faith that I would never release such information.
Don't let all that attention go to your head, buddy.
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You are way too desperate for attention if you have to stick your nose in here to say "bill plz no Dox".

As I said I am only slightly concerned because at the end of the day I'm not all that scared of being dox'd, I've openly stated a number of personally Identifiable things here on this forum.


Feel free to stick the FH wants attention conspiracy theory up your ass where it belongs, I get all the attention thanks though!
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LFC provided the ultimate proof why this is happening
Yawn. Were I to intimidate anyone, you wouldn't ever be able to prove any of it. You are a scamming monkey for which about 1% of my brain is needed to beat. All the PMs that were sent out were suggestions and any of them can be published. I didn't put more than 15-20 seconds of writing into most of them, quite the intimidation. Roll Eyes
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I claimed that Lauda was intimidating LFC,

It seems you are more concerned about Bill publishing a PM with evidence of Laudas abuse instead of Laudas intimidation ?

Why don't you hold Lauda responsible for that intimidation ?


Its funny to see how quickly someone who was supported by most DT members over a longer period of time gets so quickly a scammer stamp.

LFC provided the ultimate proof why this is happening

Yeah, I don't care about Lauda in the slightest, because assuming everything everyone is claiming is true, it absolutely doesn't matter in the slightest. Whether you guys still can physically see ratings by Default trust or not, not a single one of the people that has responded here uses it. Thule, when you see negative feedback left by Lauda for someone, do you disregard it? I'm assuming your answer is yes, in which case that means you don't use default trust. Relying on default trust means blindly relying on the feedback left by those users because you don't know any better. Everyone involved here knows better, so they know who's feedback to disregard or value. Everyone is just complaining about a DT mafia because conflict is fun. Like I said, the power of DT is literally the same as a PTA, maybe a little annoying but they don't have any real authority to do anything. When was the last time any of the involved did a trade here? (looks mainly at the collectibles section users) Ok, does Lauda or anyone else's feedback mean anything to you if you've been trading within this community for years and know who to trust? And if you aren't certain, or are trading with a new user do you just use Minerjones as escrow? Cool, problem solved.

Just to clarify, all of this DT red trust and such is about your feelings being hurt, not that it'll affect your account in any way. Thats fine, but everyone can tell what it is, this massive conflict is because of hurt feelings, not for the greater good and justice.


legendary
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It seems you are more concerned about Bill publishing a PM with evidence of Laudas abuse instead of Laudas intimidation ?

This has nothing to do with Vod

It's funny, putting those two quotes together, let's play a guessing game! Can anybody tell me why that's humorous?

The 60-day ban would've been good for burying a string of coincidences and abuses.

Righto, so you say "Hey guys, Lauda is pressuring people like some mafia boss to ...."

How well has that been working out for anyone that has been unable to produce a source/justification for their claims?
There's a handful of users sitting in here on Newbie accounts, because they're likely DT members afraid of similar consequence.

If we keep doing this circular "Lauda is a boogieman" act, where all we have are stories of old we are not going to get anywhere.
There are concrete examples of abuse, intimidation, coercion, etc. and refusing to pin down the details is one of the things that makes the situation slippery.

You're right, maybe producing the PM or at least attaching the username was a move in bad-taste.
I'm not here to make LFC look bad, they know that and I think they understand where I am coming from to a degree.


you certainly shouldn't do anything without victim's consent. You have your priorities seriously messed up.

Out of curiosity, how would one get the consent to investigate a murder?
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A personal message is sent to a specific person to read. There is no expectation of privacy.

In another twist of irony if the sender of the PM wanted it posted in the fucking forum he probably would have posted it in the fucking forum instead of sending it privately to one person.

If something is posted that is intended to be read by one specific person and responded to by that person, it would get taken down by the moderators for doing exactly what you describe.

It is horribly ironic to be telling a moderator what types of threads shouldn’t be posted.

Why do you always twist words like that? Where did he say that it against the forum rules?
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