Topic: @THEYMOS Abusive group punished DT1 for speaking up against them - page 10. (Read 3503 times)

Never thought I'd merit "actisstupidname" but here we are.

Chi and Lone Shark were banned for plagiarism. They also got unbanned... after much more hassle.

Anyone is able to create a similar bot and pore through profiles' post histories. What they choose to do with the information is different.

At the end of the day, it's another ban in the name of anti-plagiarism. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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OBSERVABLE FACT #1: The warning is only shown when the person viewing the thread is not logged in. Any user that is currently logged into the system does not see that warning.

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OBSERVABLE FACT #2: It doesn't say "THIS THREAD IS STARTED BY A SCAMMER" at all... That is perhaps your (incorrect) interpretation of the warning, but in fact, that's not even close to what it says. What it actually says is:


Kindly stick to fact... and not your wild (and often incorrect) interpretation of reality.

#kthxbye

What's wrong with bill gator and his negative trust. They come from his account-bought history, that disclosed by himself in his ban appeal. Nothing more, nothing less with his negative feedback. Most of DT members tag bought accounts with negative feedback as far preventive method to reduce scam. There are very limited DT members tag such bought-accounts with neutral feedback. Additionally, bill gator actually received reduced sentence with his successful ban appeal. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=370611

Likely you are missing something,

Admin admitted there is Bot which is using for detect plagiarism. So it doesn't make sense to blame any specific users.

Does it mean admin/moderators are banning account who are talking against DT1? I don't think so.

I am not agree with this point. There is few members got ban even they were silent about DT drama. They were active on scam accusation and just report scams. I don't think someone will target them.

mic, don’t engage with this absolute weapon of a human being (if you can know hik/her that).
He/she has multiple alts & regularly trolls & spams Meta with dog shit moaning.

Genius. Why has no one ever thought of that. And look at the high-profile perps we can find with "a database query":


Let's first remove the question of you beating your spouse.

LOL! That's quite a story. It has everything: an epic struggle between good and evil, a love interest, deceit, intrigue, and good 'ol fashioned felching.

Hey CH I'll have you know my felching skills are second to none and I take your words as a compliment. Good to see the docs in the lunatarium granted you internet access again.


Thanks mic same goes for you!

Really we should all try to be more like mic.

You could learn something about being sociable from him, CH. Or at least how to behave like a human.

Who is this nobody noob garbage? stfu. Nobody wants to hear about some asskissing pleb like you and your opinions of an self confessed EVIL account seller.

Try reading the post and making some kind of sensible rebuttal based on observable instances. The opinion of noob trash means nothing to me. You are likely nutildahs alt knowing that self confessed EVIL account trading scum bag.

2017 lol .... please get back to the newbie board. You can be part of the meta board human centipede when I say so.

The one below us all...... IMO nutildah is one of the real awesome members, have had great talks with him, I couldn't say anything bad about thaaa dude!!!

It appears the same old group of scammers and their feltchers are in here.

Thule is pretty much correct. (the most important part)

A bot may have snagged bill gator and he got what anyone else would have got. This he should have accepted. It is a far reduced weapon now (a good move from theymos at last). Unless you are a repeat copy and paster for financial reasons you will just get a 2 year sig ban. If you are a real enthusiast you would not care too much about that or even a 10yr one. Only losers and dregs of legends still spam their gambling and mixing sigs.

However, being foolish and likely not liking the idea of 2 years without a sig payment he played into the gangs hands here.

He is now going to have those tags and his sig is gone likely for a long time. Even worse now every thread he starts will show a THIS THREAD IS STARTED BY A SCAMMER (thanks theymos ffs a dreadful and disgraceful implementation without ensuring only scammers have red tags)

The abuse is still clear though. Lauda is observably talking shit again to give out red tags to anyone that stands up to their gang of untrustworthy scum. He says intent is important?? or really?

1. nutildah was claiming in 2014 that all members selling their accounts are facilitating scammers and are evil. In 2016 he sold or tried to sell his account (knowingly facilitating scammers) Some say lauda bought that account and later announced it was no longer for sale. This is unknown. Either way recently Lauda who knows all about this nutildah debacle said there is nothing we can say that will cause him to red tag the nutildah account (who would want to tag their own alt) or such a loyal ass feltcher.

2. Now though Lauda and his gang of ass kissing dregs like Tman and the rest. Say account sellers MUST HAVE A RED TAG. Especially if they do not like them.

Bill gator perhaps bought the account with no intent what so ever of scamming. Nutildah said only those wanting to facilitate scams and are evil will sell their accounts and then sold his??? Intent you say?? more observably bogus and gaming of these foolish systems of control.

So yes, if poor old bill had been kissing some lauda scamming and lying ass then he would come under the nutildah protection. Sadly he spoke out against vod (correctly so) and is going to pay for that dearly. Lauda and that imbecile tman will see to this and their asskissing 3rd bunch of dregs will follow.

SO thule you were correct on your core point but the bot located him not our resident BBW snitchmoon. Who knows what happens behind the scenes. Perhaps the issue would not have been reported at all if he was part of the "gang" who runs this bot and how it it filtered seems currently unknown. This part is not really relevant though to his treatment over the copy and paste and subsequent to his foolish appeal.

He would have been best to just take the sig ban and accept it.  He gave them the opportunity to plaster him with red now.

I don’t understand why it is even necessary for a third party to run a bot to detect plagiarism. If most cases are as simple as theymos describes, finding plagiarism should be as simple as a database query. This is especially true if the goal is to detect all cases of plagiarism in which exactly the entire post was copied, but slightly more advanced queries could be done to find more tricky cases of plagiarism.

The above would remove any question of someone being targeted because of something they said or their stance in a dispute. It should also allow us to detect ~all cases of plagiarism and should be able to do so moving forward in real time.

No, I don’t trust suchmoon to not intentionally target someone (or avoiding checking/reporting someone) based on who they are or what their stances are, or whose side they take, etc. 

yes, that is too what I have seen lately with the users arguing and accusing each other. I am not siding any user here but it seems not good to post publicly and discussing it here that everyone can read. Have you tried PM to theymos for this matter? I think that would be the ideal way to do it and make a complain and not just getting the sympathybof every users here. They can't help with the problem.

Sounds like a false accusation to me. Before you know it you will be taken to court for libel charges.

I am wondering if in next post ,if you will write that some DT members forced him to write that plagiarized content. What about making allegation that theymos purposely inserted that post in bill gator's history ?

I do love how this idiot throws baseless uneducated opinions about for effect. It’s rsther amusing how far off his facts are.  Yes Thule you can stick that up your arse with your law suite..

No, everyone still cared about plagiarism, it was still a ban if caught, but it wasn't very commonly done by non newbie accounts. Account buying in selling in 2015 was still frowned upon, but less so than now. Back before sig ads were as prevalent people were afraid that account buyers would use their accounts to scam. The more recent wave of resentment for account traders came about due to spam more than anything else and ended up getting bundled with being untrustworthy.

Not that I care one way or another about account buying/selling, especially since Bill Gator didn't have feedback from before they allegedly bought the account, but I don't think there is a statute of limitations on untrustworthy behavior. As I said before, its not like Bill bought an account with feedback already, so I personally don't think it says anything about their trustworthiness, but rules are applied on an account wide basis, otherwise the ban appeals would go back to trying the, "My dad's uncle's cousin's carpet cleaner was in my room the other day, and they made this post for me, pls unban me"

What a bunch of nonsense.You are trying to enforce a rule which was at that date not activ.
Buying and selling accounts where in 2015 and before allowed and massivly practised even from most old DT1 members.
At that time noone gave a fuck about plagiarism.It can be found on any forum.And finding one post which got copy pasted years ago is enough to destroy a DT1 account into a scammer account is amazing.

And also i do not belive in coincidences.Its funny these coincidences of high ranked people getting banned always happen when speaking up against a specific group.

Suchmoon already proofed in the past to digg in peoples history deep even 5 years past to find anything to get somebody punished when having a dispute with him.

You are wrong this time. Stop spinning this incident.

Bill Gator's copy and paste post got caught by a sweeping site-wide plagiarism bot. And then he made the fatal mistake of admitting he bought the account to say he didn't make the old post by the previous owner, how stupid. Thus all the old circumstantial evidence suddenly fits.

You are just as biased as the ones you are accusing of.

There’s already a thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-bill-gator-5145840 why are you creating a new thread?. Also if you read he’s admitted to buying the account of BillGator, and buying accounts is not allowed here. In my personal opinion he got what he deserved for breaking the forum rules, no one is bigger than the forum so I feel you should stop defending him.

You've been gone for quite some time now if I'm not mistaken, so you must have missed all of this drama being not only created but perpetuated by Thule and his gang of annoying, anti-DT, anti-trust system, anti-everything trolls.  You probably feel like it would be a waste of your time, but there might be some entertaining reading if you look at some Meta threads since at least December of last year.  Yeah, it's been going on for that long.

Madonna, Janet Jackson, and NWA would be proud of you.

I'd like to reiterate someone else's post that bill gator most likely got caught up in the same plagiarism sting operation as everyone else, and it's not likely he was targeted.  This is just you pressing your agenda once again with assertions that you have no evidence for.  I do believe your posse really likes evidence and proof, right?  Well, show me proof of who turned in bill gator for plagiarism or STFU.

Oh lordy, give that +1 until you reach the end of infinity.