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Topic: @THEYMOS Abusive group punished DT1 for speaking up against them - page 7. (Read 3503 times)

legendary
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Only read the above line, then the same apply, you don't expose a PM that has been send in "trust" to only reach the eyes of the receiver....

edit: exactly thats what I do think as well and posted before.... A pm is ment to reach only to who gets the message!
legendary
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I don't see why anyone cares in the slightest about DT feedback or not. Everyone here uses Minerjones for escrow whether you have +1000 or - 9999 as a feedback score.

It feels like the PTA is making threats and people are responding seriously to them.

side note, posting private messages has always been a big no no with the exception of scam accusation proof. I think the MNW blowout was the last time the topic was visited, but it was a mess. Don't really care about Bill buying an account, but posting PMs is far more untrustworthy in my opinion than a lot of things that people get tagged for.
member
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Can someone please help that sniveling ass feltching bitch  LFC bitcoin understand that he should not have just done what lauda said at all.

 He should have told lauda to fuck off you manipulative eastern euro gutter trash I will not do what you are instructing me to do, NOT I will do what I am ordered against my will because I'm a fucking slobbering sniveling wretch who will do anything to spam for bucks and shit scared to go against you and the other euro trash scum.

This dumb cretin is just making it worse for himself.  He is saying now he is bad because he has a conscience ?? wtf is wrong with this morons brain??  so what you should not have a conscience and just do whatever filthy deeds lauda tells you and it would have all been okay??? wtf is wrong with this fool?
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These people are low functioning, weak, and pathetic trash. Not that this was not obvious at their continual fawning and feltching lauda, tman and other low life trash at every opportunity.

We and our friends have been telling you all since we stumbled into this bunch of bullying scum trying to bully noobs around in meta and rep the entire board seems to have been taken over by scammers and liars we are very familiar with from the alt section from years back. As it unfolded it just seemed more and more unbelievable how widespread their influence was to the point theymos seems to support their actions.

Hhampuz and that other shady scum bag yahoo6293874  whatever are the people that need the greatest focus here. If Theymos refuses to fix these broken systems and insists scammers and liars float around with 300 green trust and are allowed to red trust whistleblowers ,then you need to take the fight to the campaign managers and even the projects themselves. These are far more vulnerable to bad press.

This abusive group of DT1 and their pals who are campaign managers have this entire thing sewn up. It is fucking obvious how it works.

Hhampuz, yahoo69687458  are hiding behind the red tags their scum bag pals slap on people as a reason to exclude them from projects and sigs. Also the "earned merit" garbage metric.

You need to INSIST there is a clear, transparent selection process for all campaign managers. First come first served basis. If anyone is turned away then this needs to be investigated. a/ is their post quality good enough b/ are they a scammer. If there is no reason for them to be turned away then they need to be accepted.

Once this red trust crap means NOTHING and they can not turn people away because they like lemons or decided to present observable instances of a DT's past histories then it will lose it's power and people will not be scared of getting this FAKE red trust and their reign of intimidation will be over.

Theymos cocked this up by giving "them" this power in the first place. If he told them YOU WILL BE BLACKLISTED IF YOU RED TRUST PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT SCAMMERS ....none of this intimidation and crushing of free speech would be happening.  Is there something malfunctioning with theymos? why is he not enforcing this? This dream of a hands off smart decentralized governance on an anonymous forum is IMPOSSIBLE? where is GM or shelby to help him understand this trial and error approach while honest members are slammed as scammers by REAL SCAMMERS is a fucking nightmare scenario for the entire board and the free speech here?

Same with the merit "carrot". That controls paid 2 post ability and rates so again has the same power to a slightly lesser extent.

Decouple it from rank after snr and lower it's significance or remove it from the trust system.

These people are abusing the POWER theymos gave them. The buck stops with him now.  If he will do nothing about it then you need to target the campaign managers and if they are acting untrustworthy then the PROJECT needs to be held accountable for hiring CORRUPT account managers. It is quite simple PROJECTS do not want a ton of threads in REP calling them out for hiring corrupt account managers and  therefore once they have been informed the PROJECT themselves are now going to be untrustworthy and corrupt if they still continue to use them.

Break these campaign managers apart from these euro trash scammers and it will all collapse .... these scammers must have NO POWER over persons abilities to sig spam here EXCEPT if they can prove they are scammers.

Campaign managers are simply using this merit and red trust (both controlled by their scamming pals and their ass lickers) garbage metric as "THEIR REASONS" to accept or deny participants. Bogus and bullshit.

Better still blacklist this untrustworthy scum from the start.

Thule was 100% correct this just makes it even clearer.  

All boils down to the same shit everything does.... it is all about the money, it controls people and their behaviors to the point they think they are wrong to have a conscience and should just do whatever they need to to ensure the best financial return.

Most people on meta are too thick to understand what we have just outlined, so it is likely a waste of our time. However, this latest PM reveal and what the LFC btc is saying about it just demonstrates THULE is 100% correct.
legendary
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Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Thanks mic, means a lot. Finding out I have a lot of people who care about me tonight Grin



Boy, you just know your one of the members I truly like the most around here Cheesy
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Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Thanks mic, means a lot. Finding out I have a lot of people who care about me tonight Grin

legendary
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Boys whatever you saying....... LFC is a golden asset to this forum and community, please do respect a fellow member/BTC-HODLer

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Also exposing a PM in hope to embarrass somebody or for whatever reason is something you don't do .... Roll Eyes
sr. member
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LFC just proofed what we claimed that Lauda started a witch hunt on Bill to destroy his account which also explains why the massiv red tags from that group against Bill.
It can't be more clear now how that group acted to destroy somebodies account which wasn't in their favour anymore.


Thanks LFC for providing evidence.
legendary
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I’ve received numerous messages of support from high ranked accounts. This has actually given me confidence that I do a good job around here & must be appreciated (a little).

I won’t be such a pussy in future & will follow the rule book.
Thanks to all who have messaged, it means a lot.

bill, I don’t hold grudges. I get why you posted my PM, it’s pissed me off a bit but if I wasn’t so soft you wouldn’t have had anything to post to embarrass me.

CH, Thule etc - Go fuck yourselves.


Thinking for yourself and having your own opinions doesn't make you a pussy. Being subservient because you fear the repercussions of having your own opinions makes you a pussy.
legendary
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I’ve received numerous messages of support from high ranked accounts. This has actually given me confidence that I do a good job around here & must be appreciated (a little).

I won’t be such a pussy in future & will follow the rule book.
Thanks to all who have messaged, it means a lot.

bill, I don’t hold grudges. I get why you posted my PM, it’s pissed me off a bit but if I wasn’t so soft you wouldn’t have had anything to post to embarrass me.

CH, Thule etc - Go fuck yourselves.
legendary
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Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?

I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you.

I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always be angry and send you nasty messages.

Quite convenient you never need to explain yourself because feels.

And why exactly would he have to explain himself?

Maybe because publicly he insinuated I was sending him nasty messages and privately we had perfectly friendly conversations and his public and private persona are inconsistent.

Hey there. Just wanted to maybe give you a friendly warning, this whole VOD thing is going to have fallout, he went way too far. I would advise you to disassociate yourself from him and this event. Again this is just a friendly suggestion as I see it this is going to go south pretty quick. If you would like I can talk to TeeGumes we have done trades in the past. If you were to first make a statement to the fact disassociating from this it would probably help me go a long way toward arguing for him to remove the rating. I don't agree with him leaving it, but I don't think what VOD did was at all acceptable either. Feel free to let me know what you think about all of this, or not if you want. Have a good one.

Hey Tecshare,

Thank you for reaching out, hope you are enjoying this BTC rally too!

I understand that me leaving merit to that thread may have been stupid and my judgement was clouded by my disliking of og. There is no way for me to remove merit but even if it were, as the thread stands right now, I'm not sure I would remove it. No need to argue on my behalf with teegumes, although it is much appreciated! I'll take his neg and wear it as a reminder to always think twice before taking any action here which can also be a good thing.

After beeing down and feeling shit for a couple of months I've come back now and have found joy in the small things, doing much better and will just try and be hard at work.

Again, thank you for reaching out, I appreciate it Smiley. Hope you are doing ok, too!

WOW. MUCH NASTY! SO ANGER!
legendary
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Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?

I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you.

I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always be angry and send you nasty messages.

Quite convenient you never need to explain yourself because feels.

And why exactly would he have to explain himself?
legendary
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@bill - I’m on about the likes of CH getting in on me like a fat kid loves cake.
He called me a ‘spineless asslicking feltcher’.

Pretty sure I have red trust from Thule calling me a fag too.

I suppose none of this matters though. They’ve got what they want, me thrown to the dogs for being a pussy, basically.

I should have just followed the rule book & took you off my trust list. This is what I get for trying to be a pussy, I guess.
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All the scamming & distrusted accounts are out like flies around dog shit.

Are you surprised? There's always talks of "them" who are nasty people just out to ruin people yet I've never been treated as bad as the ones calling "them" out have treated me.

Blocking PM's and putting people on Ignore helps a lot, as some users suggested it to me, less noise = happier life Smiley.

That's because you are sucking "their" dicks. Of course they will feed you scooby snacks and pet you and say nice things. You are their pet. We had perfectly friendly conversations days before you untrusted, excluded, then blocked me all without any explanation immediately after I spoke out about Vod's behavior. I even offered to help you get your negative removed. I never sent you any harassing PMs you are just another spineless toadie who doesn't want to have to be forced to make any critical self examination. Much easier to just blame others.
He is also paying them very well with money from his customers.

He also appears to more or less make decisions on behalf of his customers however these people want him to do, even if not in his customers best interest.

He is borderline embezzling his customers money.
legendary
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Relevant PM I received :

bill, I feel like a right ass hole but Lauda messaged me ... about you. She told me I should remove you from my trust list. I really didn’t want to do it because I do like you (a lot).

For my own comfort & to make my life easier I did it. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of them.

I am really sorry & I feel a dick for doing it. I had to tell you myself though before you see it yourself.

I hope you can forgive me.

LFC

All the scamming & distrusted accounts are out like flies around dog shit.

Are you surprised? There's always talks of "them" who are nasty people just out to ruin people yet I've never been treated as bad as the ones calling "them" out have treated me.

Blocking PM's and putting people on Ignore helps a lot, as some users suggested it to me, less noise = happier life Smiley.
Text size emphasis mine.
legendary
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Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?

I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you.

I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always be angry and send you nasty messages.

Quite convenient you never need to explain yourself because feels.
legendary
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Meh.
Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?

I don't lump people together in attempts to stir up drama. When I say "the ones calling "them" out" it necessarily doesn't mean you.

I've decided not to disclose why I Add/Remove/Exclude people from my trust list as someone will always get angry and send me nasty messages.

legendary
Activity: 3318
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First Exclusion Ever
All the scamming & distrusted accounts are out like flies around dog shit.

Are you surprised? There's always talks of "them" who are nasty people just out to ruin people yet I've never been treated as bad as the ones calling "them" out have treated me.

Blocking PM's and putting people on Ignore helps a lot, as some users suggested it to me, less noise = happier life Smiley.

That's because you are sucking "their" dicks. Of course they will feed you scooby snacks and pet you and say nice things. You are their pet. We had perfectly friendly conversations days before you untrusted, excluded, then blocked me all without any explanation immediately after I spoke out about Vod's behavior. I even offered to help you get your negative removed. I never sent you any harassing PMs you are just another spineless toadie who doesn't want to have to be forced to make any critical self examination. Much easier to just stick your fingers in your ears and go "LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
legendary
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Here's the thing: BG is an asshole for publishing the PM of a member that sent him a message in confidence. If he is allowed to continue in his sig campaign, which is what this is obviously all about, well that's just not right, given the standards of it set forth.
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Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages.
Unless the PM was encrypted, I don’t see any expectation of privacy.

If you don’t want anything embarrassing you said in a PM to be published, don’t write anything embarrassing in a PM.

You really don't see a difference between the note by theymos and the issue at hand?


That note is not from theymos. It is standard on all SMF forums.

I have long held that PMs not encrypted are fair game to be disclosed at the option of either party.

It's called PRIVATE PERSONAL message for a reason. Everybody knows that it is a dick move to publicly post PMs.
You should post a screen shot of where it is called *private* message. I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you can provide a verifiable screenshot in the next hour.

Fixed my post, still doesn't change the point.
legendary
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I've never been treated as bad as the ones calling "them" out have treated me.

Blocking PM's ... people on Ignore ... less noise = happier life Smiley.

Can you name something that I've done against you Hhampuz? You've been awfully quiet in Meta for awhile now, but after going from trusting me to distrusting me without any explanation - here you are making it seem like you've been being harassed by me. Either your post is irrelevant or it's fan-fiction, can you help me pick which?

Yeah, being insulted & ridiculed is all part of the plan that the multi red trusted accounts have.

The worst I've heard you called is "spineless". You called me worse, prior to that.
Don't be as dramatic as Hhampuz, please.
sr. member
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Looks like bill threw me to the dogs. I like(d) him a lot & I did see him as trustworthy & a good guy.

It turns out he bought a farmed account & got himself into DT. I should have just gone with my head & not my heart when Lauda PM’d me.

I sent you that PM in confidence bill, I should have just ~ you for the account buying & not tried to explain that I was removing you in a friendly way.

Fuck it !!!!!

Hey fwiw I added you to my list a few days ago since you seem level-headed and have displayed good judgement plenty of times. I have no plans on removing you let alone exclude you so keep doing what you doing, the rest is just noise Smiley.

Thanks Hhampuz, your support means a lot.
I should have just removed bill from my trust list - the facts were loud & clear - Account buying.

I’m too soft sometimes & I apologise to everybodt for that.

I’ll continue to do my best to be an important part of the community. I hope people forgive me for acting looe a coward. I’ve let everybody down.

The only retard here is you who openly admitted that you don't want to remove Bill from trust list but are going to do so because of Lauda and have an easier life.

From today you got the new nick name the BITCH FROM LAUDA

Go to your master and lick his feet you pathetic loser who is even unable to stand his own ground.
Now i understand why Lauda accepts you being in DT fucking bitch
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