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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 16, 2022, 07:51:20 AM

If I know a match is fixed, I do not go for it at all because we do not know if It is the dominant club that will win.

The problem is, we don't know which matches are fixed or not. Usually we (as bettors) will feel it as the game goes on.

Quote from: Oshosondy on July 16, 2022, 07:51:20 AM

I will prefer to always bet on bigger leagues like EPL, La Liga Santander, Seria A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and other top leqgies. I can also go for world cup and continental cup matches.

Big league matches are not always available, usually the big league matches will take place on weekends. If you are a football matches bettor, you should know what to do when you really want to bet on a football match. That's the reason why bettors will bet on football matches even in the lower class leagues.

Quote from: AicecreaME on July 16, 2022, 08:00:00 AM

So betting in any form of gambling is really risky, because the highest possibility is losing always.

Almost everything you will do has risks, including gambling. And talking about the possibility of winning in football, I think it will always be 50:50. It depends on how you deal with the match situation.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Therefore, betting on matches in the lower leagues is very risky. I haven't been doing this for a long time, because it's a pure lottery. In many countries, such behavior would be punishable by a huge penalty for the players and an even greater penalty for the club. Hopefully the same will happen in this case.

just like you, I've never been interested in betting on a low-class league

btw, usually football competitions in the third world are often match-fixed because their only goal is to win the bet

in the lower class leagues we often hear of a team that looks great but lost badly to a team that looks ordinary, this is one of the tricks of match fixing by bookies

I have not seen the entire game but even if its entirely not a fixed match, I'd still be mad watching I lose for this point. Better not try the low-class league. I'm not into soccer but they definitely suck at fixing the game.

The guy in red shirt kick the ball somewhere but at least the goalkeeper is considerate enough to act like he wants to block the ball. That's something that made it not a fixed match. The other goalkeeper was just standing right there watching the ball going inside.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on July 15, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Therefore, betting on matches in the lower leagues is very risky. I haven't been doing this for a long time, because it's a pure lottery. In many countries, such behavior would be punishable by a huge penalty for the players and an even greater penalty for the club. Hopefully the same will happen in this case.

just like you, I've never been interested in betting on a low-class league

btw, usually football competitions in the third world are often match-fixed because their only goal is to win the bet

in the lower class leagues we often hear of a team that looks great but lost badly to a team that looks ordinary, this is one of the tricks of match fixing by bookies

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

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I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Well, it is nothing new, I recently made a post on the Topic, the greatest sporting scandals, maybe today for many to bet on sport is fashion, and such things can be a "sigh" but it is a bad habit of the environment that has always been present in sports bets.

In fact, I would say that before the Internet there made more cheat than now.

In any case, now you have to add to the Antidoping, the audit of suspected players, then, they must be in their contracts that their finances are supervised every so often.

In any case there are several private organisms that are constantly evaluating and supervising the different leagues.

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Quote from: Doell on July 16, 2022, 10:04:08 AM

The video shown may be related to a set score or win, but it doesn't spoil the gambling. Maybe yes if the players and all those teams gambled too, and won in bets at some sportsbook. Nothing can prevent them but maybe the relevant institutions at there will act decisively if they take part in the scoring setting, so the match is unfair also to the bookie. Blatantly kicking the ball in the wrong direction is ridiculous, big possibility will be investigated.

The video already is a proof of blatantly throwing the game whereas a football player intentionally kick the ball outside the net or the goal. I mean, they are football player and that kind of kick cannot be an accidental shot since it is too far from the net. I doubt that these players are betting on themselves and it might not be allowed to do so however it is more likely that the team and it's players are paid to throw the game.

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I wonder what happens to these guys? are they investigated for obviously showing a fixed game?

Well, speaking of game fixing, that's normal in sports, there's a rumor but not many of them are caught, so if you are a bettor, you have to consider that anytime a game can be fixed. Actually, there's more plenty of games that look real but in reality, it was just fixed, so as a gambler, you just have to follow your instinct and bet on a player or a team that you think will win.

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Quote from: Doell on July 16, 2022, 10:04:08 AM

The video shown may be related to a set score or win, but it doesn't spoil the gambling. Maybe yes if the players and all those teams gambled too, and won in bets at some sportsbook. Nothing can prevent them but maybe the relevant institutions at there will act decisively if they take part in the scoring setting, so the match is unfair also to the bookie. Blatantly kicking the ball in the wrong direction is ridiculous, big possibility will be investigated.

Do you really have doubts?
After all, even a child can conclude that what is happening in this video is terrible acting. If these players weren't involved in the fixing of this match, why would they do something like that? The only solution to justify could be blackmail, but then the hard stuff gets into what's going on there.

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The video shown may be related to a set score or win, but it doesn't spoil the gambling. Maybe yes if the players and all those teams gambled too, and won in bets at some sportsbook. Nothing can prevent them but maybe the relevant institutions at there will act decisively if they take part in the scoring setting, so the match is unfair also to the bookie. Blatantly kicking the ball in the wrong direction is ridiculous, big possibility will be investigated.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on July 15, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Therefore, betting on matches in the lower leagues is very risky. I haven't been doing this for a long time, because it's a pure lottery. In many countries, such behavior would be punishable by a huge penalty for the players and an even greater penalty for the club. Hopefully the same will happen in this case.

True, and if I'm not mistaken, this has been touch based recently, forgot what thread it was. Nevertheless its big risk on betting on those smaller league and we have scandals like this in our country as well and punishment was meted on the individuals involved. And some of the players were even ban for life for involving a huge fixed match that was really very obvious from the beginning.

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This is absolutely ridiculous and obvious that there is an under current in the match. Why didn't the team try to push in a goal in favour of the team they sold the match to and refuse to score any more goals so that the match will end that way and not to present themselves as a tool for laughter. Match fixing is every where no doubt but to make it glaring makes the game uninteresting.

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I can't say if it was a fixed match or not because we also don't know the truth and can only guess. But I think many matches are arranged to win one side at the expense of the other even though that seems very difficult to prove. Moreover, those involved in fixed matches will not reveal it to the public as there is a money factor behind it all. And even if that is true, we can not do anything unless there are people who really know what is going on in the match.

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Quote from: Yogee on July 16, 2022, 09:16:08 AM

The topic has been discussed in various threads already. Nothing new for most sportsbettors from this forum at least. Just let the sports regulators handle this.

The second penalty taker in the video should have taken more acting classes because it's so bad. A beginner could kick the ball better. At least the goalkeeper in the first clip didn't bother at all - - no effort to conceal the match fixing hehe.

Do I conclude correct, that you are suggesting how this scam should be done better?
The whole point of this scam is that these players are making such a hopeless show because they feel they are impuned. The point is that they should suffer enormous consequences, but this is not the case, because with so much gambling money, even politicians are corrupt and do nothing with it.

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The topic has been discussed in various threads already. Nothing new for most sportsbettors from this forum at least. Just let the sports regulators handle this.

The second penalty taker in the video should have taken more acting classes because it's so bad. A beginner could kick the ball better. At least the goalkeeper in the first clip didn't bother at all - - no effort to conceal the match fixing hehe.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 15, 2022, 03:05:58 PM

Quote from: keyscore44 on July 15, 2022, 01:31:38 PM

Therefore, betting on matches in the lower leagues is very risky. I haven't been doing this for a long time, because it's a pure lottery. In many countries, such behavior would be punishable by a huge penalty for the players and an even greater penalty for the club. Hopefully the same will happen in this case.

Even in the higher leagues of a sport have been known for match fixing. Take the Premier League as an example, Sturridge was investigated for match fixing, and I believe even banned for it. I'm sure his ban expired in January, it was at least six months. So, whether actually guilty or not, there's been accusations made, which were considered valid enough to ban for a period of time, even if the final decision was that the player was innocent.

Also, I'm absolutely sure I've seen certain boxers take a dive. There's one that sticks in my mind, but he wasn't a big name so can't remember who it was, but the replay basically showed his opponent missing, and him curling over in pain.

There was also a fight Ricky Hatton's son fought, which he basically lost every round, and I don't know how anyone else could see it differently, but ended up winning the decision. There's also the Wilder vs Fury fight, which the decision for a draw was absolutely crazy.

In fact, home advantage in boxing is considered pretty big even with commentators saying you have to do put a statement out there if you want to win away from your home country/town.

Boxing is a completely different story. What is happening now is more like American Wrestling (WWF) than real boxing. Of course, I know there are real fighters and sportsmen and I know few of them myself. But I also had a situation when I once met a team of 4 boxers in the hotel (around a year ago), who drank beer with me 3 days before the fight. They came from different countries from two continents, so it was high level professional event. They came just to "make the record" (they call it like that), so to lose for other boxers. They weren't even hiding it too much. Crazy.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

actually what is in the video will not break the confidence of all gamblers to keep betting on sports. because all gamblers know if it is a common thing that happens in the local league only and will not be possible in the national league.

from the video there is something good for us to take when we want to bet on sports but in the local league we need to think for sure to determine which club we will hold to bet

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Quote from: MAAManda on July 15, 2022, 02:00:14 PM

It's a common thing in the lower class leagues, don't worry about it. If you are a person who likes to bet on football matches, as much as possible you should stay away from matches that are in the lower leagues. Although something like this can also happen in top-class leagues (for example the case of Juventus in the past), but it is unlikely that something like that will happen there. Now, I want to ask you. Is the match in the video a Nigeria Professional Football League (NPFL) match? not of course, right? Grin

I won't say that it's not happening in the high tier of sports league, I'm sure it's happening as well but it's just not going out because of their connections and money. Match fixing can't be prevented especially the other party offers more money than the pool prize, it's all about title and dignity vs. money. Practical people will choose money, always. So betting in any form of gambling is really risky, because the highest possibility is losing always.

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It is obvious that was a fixed match, no other comment than to investigate the match and the right punishment needs to be enforced.

Quote from: MAAManda on July 16, 2022, 06:54:10 AM

talking about match-fixing, I'd like to know, have you ever bet on a match that is most likely a match that has already been set? I've personally experienced it several times, at that time I chose the more dominant team, even I had to give -3.5.

If I know a match is fixed, I do not go for it at all because we do not know if It is the dominant club that will win. Haven't you watched a match that the dominant club maybe leading at the 85th minute, later the other club suddenly become dominant, equalize and win.

I will prefer to always bet on bigger leagues like EPL, La Liga Santander, Seria A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and other top leqgies. I can also go for world cup and continental cup matches.

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Quote from: dunfida on July 15, 2022, 03:44:02 PM

Wont really be that common or something that do happen on big leagues and tournaments which there are lots of fans are watching which it would really be hard for them to act specially on match fixing.

Its true that this could happen on lower class leagues or local ones but of course it would really be ethical that sport governing bodies should still make out some act or decision on shit things like this.

Match fixing isnt something new into this industry thats why dont freak out and trying to tell the public that this would really be over and could damage gambling industry. Cheesy

talking about match-fixing, I'd like to know, have you ever bet on a match that is most likely a match that has already been set? I've personally experienced it several times, at that time I chose the more dominant team, even I had to give -3.5.

At first, the game went normally, but after entering the 30th minute, everything changed. Even the unseeded team managed to score a lot of goals, if I'm not mistaken the result in that match was 1 - 4. FYI, that match was a hong kong league match.

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This video presented in OP seems like a match fix because the goal defender does not take any kind of action or there's something in the video which is lacking with the reason why he didn't defend but of this is international it is a match-fixing already, of course, the ruin will come with the team and for sure there's a transaction already committed by the management so they don't need to play well just to defend the goal.

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Instead of just linking a video it is better to state or at least tell us a little what the video is about. It looks like you are talking about match manipulation and match fixing. It has been happening for years. Nothing new. It does damage the reputation of sports gambling and the entire sports, but it has almost become a normal thing, I guess? The one you showed was extreme. Usually match fixing are done discretely and no one knows about it.

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