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Quote from: madnessteat on July 29, 2022, 07:36:21 AM

Quote from: Naficopa on July 29, 2022, 06:04:52 AM

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If everyone thought that way, we wouldn't hear about fixed matches and corruption. It would make our world a fairer place, but unfortunately we see a completely different picture. People are willing to betray not only their own honor and the honor of their country, but to sacrifice the well-being of the people around them in the pursuit of their own profit. The idea of general well-being is too far away for many people.

I think this to be an isolated case as I know there exist fixed matches but that are not so evident as this one.In fact I have seen where I live now as the capital city has a couple of teams here and all the people were saying this game is going to end like this and this x team will win while I was thinking to myself that these persons are just delusional and crazy.I decided to go to the stadium despite not being a fan of neither of the teams playing.The stronger team was also leading the Championship and the game was for the cup of the country.So the weaker team which was relegated in that season happened to lose 2-0 the same result as they had won the first leg but the team leading the Championship lost so many occasions that I was a bit in doubt.What cleared my doubt were the penalties,they hit like 17-18 penalties before it was settled and the weaker team won and qualified further.All the words I heard were right but very few people were convinced that this was a fixed game as both teams played a much better theater than football.

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Quote from: Naficopa on July 29, 2022, 06:04:52 AM

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If everyone thought that way, we wouldn't hear about fixed matches and corruption. It would make our world a fairer place, but unfortunately we see a completely different picture. People are willing to betray not only their own honor and the honor of their country, but to sacrifice the well-being of the people around them in the pursuit of their own profit. The idea of general well-being is too far away for many people.

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Quote from: acroman08 on July 27, 2022, 10:51:05 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2022, 07:34:05 AM

I would even ban such players from continuing to build a professional career.

I agree with this, any athlete who is caught being involved in fix matching should be banned for life instead of temporary suspension as a warning to the athletes. if more athletes know that their career will end once they are caught fixing a match, they'd be more scared in doing it and perhaps lessen or even eliminate(but I highly doubt it) the problem.

I believe when the players are playing for their country - when they are representing their nation. They should not lose their honour nor they should lose their dignity.
They should uphold their morals and they should keep their head and chin high. Wrong means wrong. Whatever the situation is.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2022, 07:34:05 AM

I would even ban such players from continuing to build a professional career.

I agree with this, any athlete who is caught being involved in fix matching should be banned for life instead of temporary suspension as a warning to the athletes. if more athletes know that their career will end once they are caught fixing a match, they'd be more scared in doing it and perhaps lessen or even eliminate(but I highly doubt it) the problem.

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Quote from: noorman0 on July 27, 2022, 09:22:41 AM

If it is assumed that there was a big bet in that match, it is clear that it was a planned winning score. Considering it's a state of Nigeria, I kind of agree with one of the comments on the video. Chances are high that there's been money laundering wrapped up in gambling, but this one was a bit "bold".

I don't think anyone doubts that this is a fixed match. As far as I know there is a high level of corruption in Nigeria, I suppose things are about the same in sports. The temptation to get a lot of money for a single game is too great, so fixed matches still exist and citizens of poor countries watch such situations more often than others. In my opinion such things should be investigated and the perpetrators punished accordingly.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 26, 2022, 05:00:57 PM

While it is true that the influence of criminal organizations on the best leagues around the world is low we cannot truly know the full extent of it, after all we have seen some scandals involving some of the most popular leagues around the world in the past and this brings the question, if those are the scandals that we know how many other similar instances are still under the radar?

And it is likely that quite a few instances of criminal organizations fixing sport events are still undiscovered even now, as it is too naive to think every single instance in which this has happened has gone public.

In fact, this is one of the cases that has been exposed from the many existing cases.
Actually, this has become an open secret for the league under the radar, I think, because this kind of thing has become commonplace, not to mention the various ritual tools there which are believed to be one of the talismans to win.
Actually this sounds quite taboo but in fact if we look at the leagues that are below average, especially for countries that are rarely exposed to football activities, things like this are commonplace.

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If it is assumed that there was a big bet in that match, it is clear that it was a planned winning score. Considering it's a state of Nigeria, I kind of agree with one of the comments on the video. Chances are high that there's been money laundering wrapped up in gambling, but this one was a bit "bold".

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Quote from: lixer on July 25, 2022, 10:52:12 PM

Not sports alone but it was the sports betting, is the one that we are talking about here. It is not right to gamble during working hours. If your boss caught you, you will get fired in an instant. Fixing in sports betting is not new but that didn't have a big impact because until now the industry was still standing strong.

There's no way to tell that a match is being fixed, that is why there are still people who can watch the game but in case they will know, that will be too late already. Watching a fixed game is not enjoyable because the players will not perform very well but the only one that will enjoy it are those who know that it will happen and have place their bets on the winning team.

It's not that the player is not performing well, rather it's that they're purposely not performing well, and are rather bad at pretending to do so given the fact that players can obviously notice it immediately in the middle of the match. It's not only gamblers that will be irritated by this, any regular fan out there that's watching the match would be absolutely pissed if the match their watching was fixed and the players are just doing the game half-assed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 27, 2022, 07:05:08 AM

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Clearly, the outcome of this match was predetermined before it started. At least that's what I think when I look at how the goalkeeper misses this goal. He didn't even pretend to want to catch the ball.

I totally agree with what you say about penalties for those players, because the stricter the punishment, the fewer such situations there will be. I would even ban such players from continuing to build a professional career.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on July 26, 2022, 11:21:02 PM

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Sometimes players Got Mad maybe in their coaches or even team mates that they ended deciding to drop the game , though this shows unprofessionalism yet they are human that sometimes decide wrongly according to their feelings.

and as we can see, this is few videos than how many games conducted and this is from different teams .
so maybe this is just Isolated case and not a game fixing as they will not like to see it this bad infront of everyone specially fans.

If this kind of behavior will comes up in a game there's a chance that their coach will remove this player and of course have a sanctions to get banned to play into one tournament or more because of throwing the game it is all about the reputation of the team and organization which is not tolerating because they are professional player and all the things they do is broadcasting in live.

We might have seen some players suspended from being allowed to follow or join their team in the next game because of their behavior in the previous game. This can be a lesson for players who are less able to act professionally when competing. And the most severe punishment a team and organization can give is being banned from playing in any team for life. This is the most painful ban for a player, especially one who has a good future as a professional player.

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Quote from: btc78 on July 26, 2022, 10:06:24 PM

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Sometimes players Got Mad maybe in their coaches or even team mates that they ended deciding to drop the game , though this shows unprofessionalism yet they are human that sometimes decide wrongly according to their feelings.

and as we can see, this is few videos than how many games conducted and this is from different teams .
so maybe this is just Isolated case and not a game fixing as they will not like to see it this bad infront of everyone specially fans.

If this kind of behavior will comes up in a game there's a chance that their coach will remove this player and of course have a sanctions to get banned to play into one tournament or more because of throwing the game it is all about the reputation of the team and organization which is not tolerating because they are professional player and all the things they do is broadcasting in live.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 02:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Sometimes players Got Mad maybe in their coaches or even team mates that they ended deciding to drop the game , though this shows unprofessionalism yet they are human that sometimes decide wrongly according to their feelings.

and as we can see, this is few videos than how many games conducted and this is from different teams .
so maybe this is just Isolated case and not a game fixing as they will not like to see it this bad infront of everyone specially fans.

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Quote from: lixer on July 25, 2022, 10:52:12 PM

Quote from: BobK71 on July 25, 2022, 02:08:05 AM

Sport is the best place for people's interest where people come to enjoy this sport for refreshments even in the midst of their work. However, if the word fixing is used in this game, then that kind of viewer will no longer come to the field or watch the game and people will get negative ideas on the game. At present everything is sold to the money. Although people are very used to watch fixing game especially those who are gambler. It won't effect any problem for them but those who are out of this, it will be worthless for them.

Not sports alone but it was the sports betting, is the one that we are talking about here. It is not right to gamble during working hours. If your boss caught you, you will get fired in an instant. Fixing in sports betting is not new but that didn't have a big impact because until now the industry was still standing strong.

There's no way to tell that a match is being fixed, that is why there are still people who can watch the game but in case they will know, that will be too late already. Watching a fixed game is not enjoyable because the players will not perform very well but the only one that will enjoy it are those who know that it will happen and have place their bets on the winning team.

The one that will enjoy are those who are expecting the game to be fixed. For gamblers who bet on the other side, they will be annoyed with the performances of their pick. Though they can claim that it was fixed but they needed to prove it and that's another annoying thing that may take place while taking things seriously.

But for experienced gamblers,it's just another normal day, and they will just move forward.

Nothing can be change if luck is not with your side that day, you need to find it the next following day.. Cool

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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 26, 2022, 05:00:57 PM

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Quote from: len01 on July 23, 2022, 04:55:24 PM

such incidents often happen in local leagues not in the big leagues and maybe some gamblers are aware of such occurrences. so most gamblers prefer big league sports betting over local leagues.
for reputation problems, such broadcasts should not need to be broadcast and the publisher of the video should be punished so that such shows are not reported again.

regardless of what happens in the drama shown by the channel, is one of the dramas that usually happens in the world of football, cheating, match fixing, or anything that smells of manipulation will always color in the world of football, including the big leagues which are more professional and have very strict regulations.

there will always be individuals and several parties who have the power to determine the outcome of a match. especially for domestic leagues that do not have strict regulations, they will be very vulnerable to manipulation and involvement of many parties to regulate match results.

They're the gambling mafia behind the mess. When football is controlled by the mafia, the game will not run as it should, there is always an imbalance that occurs on the pitch that forces the referee to make controversial decisions. What is in the video is the player's anger vent or a form of protest over a decision that harms them. Luckily the big leagues can already be controlled from the interference of the mafia, VAR technology can help teams who feel aggrieved by controversial decisions from referees.

While it is true that the influence of criminal organizations on the best leagues around the world is low we cannot truly know the full extent of it, after all we have seen some scandals involving some of the most popular leagues around the world in the past and this brings the question, if those are the scandals that we know how many other similar instances are still under the radar?

And it is likely that quite a few instances of criminal organizations fixing sport events are still undiscovered even now, as it is too naive to think every single instance in which this has happened has gone public.

Thats why its commonly happening on smaller leagues on where there are not much viewers or not really be aired or can be seen on TV which executing fixed matches plans could be bit simpler compared when it
is really done on bigger or known ones which we know that fans eyes arent something that could really easily be fooled on whenever they do see some odd actions and decisions that been made out on the game.
Fixed matches are common and been known but proving it out is the toughest challenge.There might be some who had been caught out but there are for sure which ones havent been caught and stillcontinuing on making out these fixed matching which is something that cant really be able to determine or sue them out.

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Quote from: arimamib on July 25, 2022, 08:51:24 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 24, 2022, 05:13:22 AM

Quote from: len01 on July 23, 2022, 04:55:24 PM

such incidents often happen in local leagues not in the big leagues and maybe some gamblers are aware of such occurrences. so most gamblers prefer big league sports betting over local leagues.
for reputation problems, such broadcasts should not need to be broadcast and the publisher of the video should be punished so that such shows are not reported again.

regardless of what happens in the drama shown by the channel, is one of the dramas that usually happens in the world of football, cheating, match fixing, or anything that smells of manipulation will always color in the world of football, including the big leagues which are more professional and have very strict regulations.

there will always be individuals and several parties who have the power to determine the outcome of a match. especially for domestic leagues that do not have strict regulations, they will be very vulnerable to manipulation and involvement of many parties to regulate match results.

They're the gambling mafia behind the mess. When football is controlled by the mafia, the game will not run as it should, there is always an imbalance that occurs on the pitch that forces the referee to make controversial decisions. What is in the video is the player's anger vent or a form of protest over a decision that harms them. Luckily the big leagues can already be controlled from the interference of the mafia, VAR technology can help teams who feel aggrieved by controversial decisions from referees.

While it is true that the influence of criminal organizations on the best leagues around the world is low we cannot truly know the full extent of it, after all we have seen some scandals involving some of the most popular leagues around the world in the past and this brings the question, if those are the scandals that we know how many other similar instances are still under the radar?

And it is likely that quite a few instances of criminal organizations fixing sport events are still undiscovered even now, as it is too naive to think every single instance in which this has happened has gone public.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on July 25, 2022, 11:23:06 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 02:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh at the video I watched or be annoyed. If you look at it the blocker just let the ball enter the main goal and then the second one was wrong because the kicker kicked it in a different direction which the blocker thought he could block. So what can be said to the bettor is that it won't break trust, maybe you forget that gambling is always attached by risk, so I think that's normal dude.

depend on the position you have, if you will only watch the video without intention or not partaking in bets or anything then yeah this is funny and also stupidity at the same time.
but if you are betting on those games? then you will be thankful if win and irritated when lose .
because that is an obvious way of showing how they are not interested in the totality of the game either it was fixed game or they care nothing at all .

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 25, 2022, 02:08:05 AM

Sport is the best place for people's interest where people come to enjoy this sport for refreshments even in the midst of their work. However, if the word fixing is used in this game, then that kind of viewer will no longer come to the field or watch the game and people will get negative ideas on the game. At present everything is sold to the money. Although people are very used to watch fixing game especially those who are gambler. It won't effect any problem for them but those who are out of this, it will be worthless for them.

Not sports alone but it was the sports betting, is the one that we are talking about here. It is not right to gamble during working hours. If your boss caught you, you will get fired in an instant. Fixing in sports betting is not new but that didn't have a big impact because until now the industry was still standing strong.

There's no way to tell that a match is being fixed, that is why there are still people who can watch the game but in case they will know, that will be too late already. Watching a fixed game is not enjoyable because the players will not perform very well but the only one that will enjoy it are those who know that it will happen and have place their bets on the winning team.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on July 25, 2022, 11:23:06 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 02:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh at the video I watched or be annoyed. If you look at it the blocker just let the ball enter the main goal and then the second one was wrong because the kicker kicked it in a different direction which the blocker thought he could block. So what can be said to the bettor is that it won't break trust, maybe you forget that gambling is always attached by risk, so I think that's normal dude.

Part of that risk is an unsure outcome. Experienced gamblers will move forward after the results have already been announced. There's nothing that they can do if the decision is already been dictated. Instead of focusing on the previous loss, it's better to work on your next pick. Choosing the right games and team/player to place your bet is the thing that you should be focusing.

Maybe there's something, but only the deciding officials can determine and change it if ever that there's something suspicious that can be proved after the game.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 02:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh at the video I watched or be annoyed. If you look at it the blocker just let the ball enter the main goal and then the second one was wrong because the kicker kicked it in a different direction which the blocker thought he could block. So what can be said to the bettor is that it won't break trust, maybe you forget that gambling is always attached by risk, so I think that's normal dude.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 24, 2022, 04:27:19 PM

Quote from: livingfree on July 23, 2022, 05:29:07 PM

It's really a big amount of money being imposed to almost everyone that's involved with the match but the returns are even much bigger than what they usually bribe.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Nigeria Ogun State FA Cup is already full of craps matches that's why I don't see where's the part that is big money is circulating here that leads to fixing some matches? The teams involved are just ruining their reputation and also the league itself

There will be no sponsorship, advertisements, marketing, and big betting market because of those incidents.

Why mafias should bother to spend time there? Not asking you directly just to make it clear but that was a general question of mine.

Well nigeria is well known as a corrupt country so no wonder if there is a lot of fixed matches , the league provider too easily fall in small amount of money to fix the match.
So yeah the third world countries will always become a place for those mafia making money through these dirty way.

There is no place for such thing but hey we live in an unfair world tho.

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