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Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 06:52:20 PM

Something seems to be wrong.

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd 22.257749999999994 ZEC

It's called the Founder's Reward...

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ex uno plures

31 btc per zec on Polo Huh

Where is ?huh? when you need him ...

tempus

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Something seems to be wrong.

Just these addresses already have > 70 ZEC:

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd 22.257749999999994 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1KHa9CJeCy3b9rUX2BhqkFJXSxSSrhM7LJ 5.948611299999998 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1SaATQbzURpG1qU3vz9Wfn3pwXoTqFtTq2 25.86 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1KstPVzcNEK4ZeauQ6cogoqxQBMDSiRnGr 12.632 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1K3HfLpbqzoWx1sv7wHAHjjyrPYyzacZUq 4.1585 ZEC

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Quote from: ccminer.net on October 28, 2016, 06:21:56 PM

Quote from: sugarbaby on October 28, 2016, 06:19:22 PM

To make a #Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 $ZEC) of fee Grin

ehehehe
I rather use my commercial bank, the fees are cheaper LOL

the be precise is 0.0001 zec "just" a couple of dollars!

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Quote from: sugarbaby on October 28, 2016, 06:19:22 PM

To make a #Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 $ZEC) of fee Grin

ehehehe
I rather use my commercial bank, the fees are cheaper LOL

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To make a Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 ZEC) of fee Grin

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Quote from: N-rG on October 28, 2016, 06:13:33 PM

Can someone explain me this please.

There was something like a "master"key generated at the beginning correct?
This was one key?
This key, six of the team devs saw and claimed to had deleted instantly yes?
Was this key on one maschine shown or at the same time on each dev. computer?
With that key it is possible to generate unlimited coins?

The key... I dont know... but take a look: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/738

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Can someone explain me this please.

There was something like a "master"key generated at the beginning correct?
This was one key?
This key, six of the team devs saw and claimed to had deleted instantly yes?
Was this key on one maschine shown or at the same time on each dev. computer?
With that key it is possible to generate unlimited coins?

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Quote from: teamcryptonator on October 28, 2016, 05:44:20 PM

Actual Zcash exchange rates across major online exchanges on Cryptonator https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/ZEC-BTC

Total 24h Volume: 39 ZEC lel

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Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 12:19:00 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on October 28, 2016, 12:03:41 PM

Todd specifically Tweeted not to use his participation as endorsement!!!

I did not take it that way and I didn't represent it that way. Exactly because he is NOT a Zcash-fan it can be nearly excluded that he would be part of some kind of conspiracy.

Because he is not a Zcash fan he could've saved the private key and publish it at a suitable time while shorting the hell out of it on the markets lol.

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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World

Actual Zcash exchange rates across major online exchanges on Cryptonator https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/ZEC-BTC

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Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 05:39:47 PM

Quote from: ccminer.net on October 28, 2016, 05:34:35 PM

Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 05:31:33 PM

Quote from: N-rG on October 28, 2016, 04:46:13 PM

Quote from: paratox on October 28, 2016, 04:39:19 PM

The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community

I don't think it's a scam, even if I'm not a fan because of the trusted setup.

But I believe it's market-manipulation - not necessarily from the team. My guess would be mining-farms.

Just speculation of course, but imagine you have a million-dollar-mining-farm and maybe connections to others. It wouldn't be hart to play a near-to-zero-supply-market that way to try to establish as high prices as possible.

Everything could be..
But for sure this price is unsustainable, and maybe the devs, plus some miners as you said are manipulating the market. In the "normal"world it is called fraud.

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Zcash ? Zcamsh.

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Quote from: ccminer.net on October 28, 2016, 05:34:35 PM

Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 05:31:33 PM

Quote from: N-rG on October 28, 2016, 04:46:13 PM

Quote from: paratox on October 28, 2016, 04:39:19 PM

The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community

I don't think it's a scam, even if I'm not a fan because of the trusted setup.

But I believe it's market-manipulation - not necessarily from the team. My guess would be mining-farms.

Just speculation of course, but imagine you have a million-dollar-mining-farm and maybe connections to others. It wouldn't be hart to play a near-to-zero-supply-market that way to try to establish as high prices as possible.

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Quote from: tempus on October 28, 2016, 05:31:33 PM

Quote from: N-rG on October 28, 2016, 04:46:13 PM

Quote from: paratox on October 28, 2016, 04:39:19 PM

The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community

tempus

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Quote from: N-rG on October 28, 2016, 04:46:13 PM

Quote from: paratox on October 28, 2016, 04:39:19 PM

The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

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zcash = US Federal Reserve. It creates money, charges a 10% tax, and the ledger cannot be audited.

The idea of the privacy is what draws you in but greed blinds you to the faults. All these hypers are blinded by greed. They do not care that the system is seriously flawed.

Zcash Corp is dangerously launching new tech with no means of auditing the blockchain or totaling coins in circulation.

zcash will be everything bitcoin is not.

zcash will have a blockchain that cannot be audited which means there is no way to find hacks or track the true circulation.
zcash will charge a tax on miners to pay investors - 2.1 million coins across 4 years
zcash is a corporation with share holders in the company - what will happen when the corporation needs more money and needs to pay investors?

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Quote from: paratox on October 28, 2016, 04:39:19 PM

The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Spend 30seconds reading the polo troll-box lol... The concept of supply and demand seems to go above everyone's head. It would be like purchasing the first superman comic for top dollar, while knowing there were 1,000,000 copies recently found in a warehouse about to be released to the public. Strong investment...

That being said, if this has a $5billion market cap in a couple months time, I'll gladly retract my post

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https://medium.com/@yobanjo/coindesk-writes-hype-story-about-zcash-shares-same-investor-ced5d264ef93#.dspwr9fk7

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Coindesk writes hype story about Zcash, shares same investor…
Just as I thought the Zcash founders had played all the tricks to pump their coin, I got notified on Twitter about yet another trick in their book. Before I jump in the details have a close look at this very optimistic Coindesk article:

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