Topic: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action - page 21. (Read 39307 times)

Did you get the FCC approval?

Told you so!

I make no excuses.

We saw the delays would be long and painful for our customers to wait and would adversely affect their ROI. As a cooperative we decided that we had to start refunding proactively as that was only fair and ethical course of action. We were very explicit not to use the BTC collected from our customers in fact some of the delays in our initial refunds were caused by the fact we had put all the BTC into cold paper storage and took nearly 3 days to get them back in the hands of the cooperative so we could refund people. And we apologized to no ends for our slow and utterly useless handling of refunds.

We don't hide behind Avalon's failure to provide chips in time for fabrication. We are the ones who cancelled the project we take full responsibility for it's failure. Will the K1 be our last project... no. I am sure our collective decision was the right one and I hope the majority of our customers and the community see this for what it is the right action for the right moment. Did we make mistakes of course we did, could we have waited longer... of course. Will we be stopping there... no.

There is a huge difference between what we want for the community and what BFL wants. We want to help support DIY and miners and hopefully that can happen with our next project. We are very upset with our failure and we know we let down BKKCoins but we really didn't want to have more people held hostage so we had to cut the K1 off.

Why doesn't someone with an SDR just fire it up in proximity to a Jalapeno or something, and see if they can pick up any spurious transmissions. If there aren't any detectable at close range then can we let the FCC stuff just die? A huge number of devices are out there which are not FCC certified, and that law is very rarely applied proactively unless some very large businesses are involved (read as the Samsungs, Dells and Apples of this world).

If you have a concern and do want to talk to the FCC, go and get some hard data on how the device is potentially hazardous due to emitting unwanted RF interference and let them know.

Now, are we talking about FCC or CE certifications? Last time this discussion was had it was all about the CE mark...

Bick could have shipped delayed like BFL but decided to refund instead. One approach created anti BFL customers the other created respect.

Its called dodging the question by going on the attack

Josh & BFL have been doing this forever & a day

...lol..ho hum... get some new material Jailbird joey

BFL is shipping, eh?  Bick could not ship, eh?  Sprechen zie Engrish?

What is interesting is that Bick is being attacked for having the same issues that BFL fanbois are defending BFL for having ie Supply issues. They make excuses for BFL and the evil suppliers but have no understanding that Bick had the same issues with Avalon delays. He was upfront and refunded all his customers while BFL is not. This is very biased behavior.

Violating  FTC refund rules ??

These are the questions Josh

Inaba has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335

He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report.

Josh I think, for the community, this is a pretty important question for us to ask such an esteemed vendor as yourself.

What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers?

You really don't know what the definition of proof is, do you?  I suggests you research "Evidence of absence" before you post again, you look like an idiot. (Frankly, I think it would be hard for you to not look like an idiot at this point, since your entire life seems to revolve around failure, but that's another story.)

Slow shipping versus no shipping... hardly a pot/kettle argument.  But you can only cut and paste, so we have to allow for that.

No proof you shipped a unit to the FCC so you have lied to your customers about it being at the FCC at all and it was going to be approved in a 2 week time frame.

Are you now saying you never posted that anywhere?

Here is some proof Josh of BFL breaking the law, please explain:

Thank you for contacting Butterfly Labs. According to the terms you agreed to on checkout, all sales are final. Now that shipping of orders has begun, refunds will not be processed. Your order will be shipped per your position in the order queue.

For more information on our refund policy please visit our FAQ: www.butterflylabs.com/faq

We are no longer able to make exceptions.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Abbey
BF Labs, Inc.

Josh I think, for the community, this is a pretty important question for us to ask such an esteemed vendor as yourself.

What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers?

Where's that proof, Bick?  Still waiting...  You wouldn't be lying about your accusations would you?  Why would not provide the proof you claim is so readily available? Why are you refusing to provide it?  That's the real question!

And FTC refund policy

Anything of substance will get you

"you dont understand how bitcoin works ""

I think i understand how you fuck ppl over pretty well Josh

I notice crickets about the FTC regs issue. I was expecting it though.