Topic: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action - page 23. (Read 39351 times)

Funny how shady people want to make it about the person and not about the facts.

Still didn't answer the question. Another call to proof we can most definitely move forward just answer the following question.

Did you send the unit to the FCC for testing or not?
Simple yes or no will suffice.

How about we talk about

Failure to deliver.
Lack of transparency.
Inexperience in manufacturing leading to long delays and inferior products.
How you lied in your forums to your customers about the refund policy changes.
Backdoor shipping to cloudhashing evidence is provided here. http://bflfraud.com/

and the list goes on and on... but by all means why not go after a guy and threaten him and his job. Yes that certainly speaks well for BFL and their need to make it "personal". I welcome you contact my boss here is his email [email protected] be sure to be specific and site EVIDENCE to support your theories. Unlike you Josh I have nothing to hide and I won't be backing down from this sort of threat. You ain't dealing with someone who needs hide behind personal ad hominem attacks all I have to do is point out your failures of which there are many. I do not have to resort to name calling or threats of loss of personal income or ruining your professional reputation you have done that already to yourself and you continue to shine the spotlight directly on that fact. You lack the requisite skills to function effectively in your position in your company and it is quite clear you are out of your depth. Should be interesting to see the transcripts when you are deposed.

Josh = Shady.

Since we are feeling chatty today Joshua. Why does the company you represent violate FTC regulations with not providing refunds? The law is very easy to understand for someone of your mental caliber.

Unfortunately, BFL claimed they had all the cases in stock. Might not be true, but that was their claim.

In Silicon valley, you can turn a board order of < 10,000 units around in 2 weeks. All the on board components are standard and should be trivial to source. If BFL was trying to do placement and mounting of the components themselves (which would be retarded) then I could see the endless delays. Even I don't think they are that stupid, and even if they didn't outsource the placement until after they got the boards made, they still should be able to get 10K boards done in under a month.

The logistics just don't add up.

 Without a doubt, we should listen to this man. He has extensive experience with being mentally unbalanced and emotionally erratic. Not sure I have the stomach to think about what sort of danger Inaba might pose to children, however.

Still waiting on that proof, Bick.  We can't go any further until you provide some proof for your accusations.  So far, you've provided zero. 

crickets

I'd venture on issues with case delivery and boards. It would depend on their contracts, if they're locked in with no penalty clauses it would make it very difficult to have any recourse. Poor planning and/or logistics most likely.
The reason I suspect cases are a possibility is that they are bulky and take up a lot of space. If inventory capacity is limited these would be one of the first things I'd minimise inventory stock of, and increase the number of smaller orders to ensure regular supply.
Boards would store more easily and could be tested without cases for binning and burn-in. Downside is suppliers are probably more expensive and quantity runs considerably less variable. Running a smaller run would drop your priority down the list, and you wouldn't stand much chance of getting regular shipments of small batches.

More attacks on me I welcome that just proves my point. Threats. What next are you going to post false TRUST notices again? I guess we have struck a nerve eh? So laser focused on the person and not the merit of what is being said about you.

Have you answered the FCC question yet? When did BFL send the unit to the FCC? Did you get FCC approval? Still waiting.

Haha Bick, you are priceless.  You see me everywhere!  I feel both honored and sullied at the thought of the fact that you are so obsessed with me that everyone and everything must be me, out to get you!

Seek help man.  If you really are working with kids, I hope someone knows your IRL identity and can let your employers know you are mentally unbalanced and emotionally erratic, you are a danger to children without a doubt.

... poor logistics ...
... lack of transparency ...
... limited experience ...
... failure to deliver ...

Ya I want to order from them the really know what they are doing right? If only everyone knew about them then this nightmare of company would be properly bankrupt and less of a drag on the bitcoin economy. They are more of hindrance at this point and it would be in the best interest of everyone in Bitcoin to help find another area of "expertise" possibly helping the Koch brothers supply disinformation about anthropogenic climate change as they seem very well versed in that sort of campaign not in building miners for their customers.

I agree that BFL is constrained by a lack of parts.
I do find it strange that they have had 4 months while knowing exactly how many parts they needed to order. Supposedly they have all the chips they need (if they didn't, then there is no way they could get them in time from the new chip order to build devices to make the Sept 30th date). That leaves cases (which they said they had), power supplies (which they said they are not waiting on for shipping), screws (shouldn't be hard to order), heatsinks (also should not be hard to order), and PCBs. Now any decent PCB production house should be able to crank out thousands of the things in a couple of weeks. BFL knew how many boards they needed, why didn't they order them?

Can't build things if there isn't the stock to do so. The output of BFL seems less constrained by their assembly and more by their suppliers not supplying parts fast enough or in sufficient quantity for them to massively scale up production. Also explains why some Mondays apparently have more shipped than others.

I think I know something about education and educational theory having worked with 1000s of students since 1995. Let me explain what makes someone a brilliant and valued member of a society versus those who fail to integrate into the greater collective we call humanity.

They are able to use their EQ coupled with IQ when working with other human beings.

They are able to use every available resource at their disposal to solve any problem without having to memorize it and rely on a fallible memory or an egocentric view or bias. The collective intelligence of a well intentioned group working towards mutually beneficial goals will exceed any one human being every time.

They are cognisant that all human relationships must be valued as well as supported. There is not a single human today that can survive, nor was there any in the past, the conditions on this planet without the interconnections of that ancient human network has been fostering for over past 120,000 years or more.

What I see with you and countless 'sock-puppets', I'd prefer the term multiple accounts shared between a number of users,  and from BFL in general is a very disturbing antisocial, bordering on sociopathic, need to make yourself somehow the most important individual in these forums. Neither you, Josh or those others, who seem to worm their way around here extolling the virtues of BFL while continually degrading human connections with a natural propensity or glee to insult your fellow human beings at every turn when someone disagrees with your insular world view that BFL is above reproach, understands that this community knows exactly what your end game is and it isn't to help better this community in any way shape or form. You are really insulting our collective intelligence with the most puerile distractions, proposing that less information is somehow good, proposing that anyone that offers up evidence is a liar even when there is ample evidence to contrary.

Pathological behavior is not something that most societies, including the bitcoin society, will blithely ignore and simply pass off as quirky or non-threatening. Human beings in collectives immediately smooth out the rough edges and will expect a minimal amount of social decorum. We do not like to be lied to, insulted and berated by individuals who do not have the respect of the collective. Fortunately there are plenty of people taking notice and calling you out on this behavior and are expecting you to either reign in your unethical behavior do what is minimally expected of any member of society to behave ethically.

I deal with 6 - 18 year olds on a daily basis they show more maturity, ethics and morality than any of these multiple account users who by all accounts are all adults with some semblance of a normal education albeit questionable mental / ethic capacity. It boggles the mind to think anyone would want to do business with such an unstable and morally bankrupt group of people but I guess not everyone gets what these people are actually doing to the majority of their customer base ripping them off.

Ivan?

Ivan Frimmel?

LOL!

Last year, they promised to work through the holidays to get as many units out as possible. Since April Fools Day, 2013, they've yet to work a Sunday, even taking some Saturdays off.

It is more about the lack of hardware. If somebody could step in and PLEASE make BFL ship the devices they promised, then we wouldn't need threads like this one. Also, the BFL fan-bois wouldn't have to beg to make it go away. So unseemly seeing them grovel. 

http://codinginmysleep.com/non-bfl-asic/