Topic: Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit - page 8. (Read 3310 times)

I agree, that's bizarre considering your neg trust for minifrij, owlcatz, eoakland, and other users for speaking out against you.


It's almost as if sometimes you're able to restrain yourself from abusing your DT position. Had you been able to do so consistently, maybe you wouldn't be here begging for others to exclude people who neg-rated you.


Nope, you're still one of those.


Your sent feedback tells a different story. Back then you probably didn't think you'd be held accountable. Now you need to keep reminding everyone how trustworthy you're supposed to be. That's not how trust works.

I'm ALSO just a guy who has dedicated nearly of decade of his life to helping Bitcoin.  I only take issue with people who attack provably honest community members with lies.


My command is don't post lies about me.   

Me too.  Let's take a look at who the liar is as it is crystal clear.

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This is nothing more than a made up lie.  I contacted you asking how much it would cost ME to sponsor your site.  The PM is below.  You never put together any sort of package for me or mentioned an amount in spite of my pressing, that is another lie.  I also never offered you "shares in nastymining" as such a thing doesn't exist.


Let's take a look at when we stopped talking about the sponsorship. 


Really?  This is an odd quote for someone who was not interested...


You added me to your trusted network, contacted me to remove my ratings of Anduck & Quickseller or else you would distrust me.  You also stated you would distrust anyone else that has left positive feedback for either party.  You repeatedly made statements like the below, to the point where I had to explain to you ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHY I DIDN'T TRUST YOU.


I don't expect anyone to worship me.  I'm just a guy who has dedicated nearly of decade of his life to helping Bitcoin.  I only take issue with people who attack provably honest community organizations with lies.  Look at Hhampuz who called me names and contacted me on a private channel just to insult me so he could get screenshots to post here on the forum, I didn't even leave him negative trust.  Even you suchmoon have made how many derogatory statements about me?  Still, where's the negative trust?  Seems maybe I'm not the one with razor thin skin using the trust network irrationally?  Vod is clearly an emotional wreck shooting off distrust to anyone who doesn't bow to his commands.  Maybe this is how you want this site's trust network to work.  It's not what I had in mind when I was trying to maintain it.

I see a trend with lying, yes.    You did PM me about BPIP sponsorship, and after I put together a package you replied something like "derp derp most people take shares in nastymining".  That is when we stopped talking.  I'm not interested in your ponzi and BPIP shows all data.  


To be clear, I left you negative feedback based on these lies.  Had you provided proof I wrote those things to you, I would have removed my feedback.

- I asked you to leave me trust
- I asked you to add me to your trust network.
- I promised you I'd add you to my trust network if you removed profiles off yours.
- I showered you with merit to back up my requests.

You can't pass this off as trust abuse.  I have legitimate concerns with your honesty.

Because you're a narcissistic prick who perceives anyone not worshiping you as "abuse"? Just a hunch. Might be some other reason.

What is this "cherrypicking data" you speak of?

You also claimed I had Quickseller in my DT2 trust list, which I don't believe is true.  You'd have to prove that I had him there for a length of time to address me thinking that you are the liar.

I've avoided you for years on this forum and only reached out to you to offer sponsorship of your BPIP website, up until you started cherrypicking data to give yourself an artificially inflated score (see a trend yet?).  Strangely, the merit stopped after that until I made a comment criticizing Lauda, who you have alluded to being a scammer but stated that you were unable to tag him without retaliation (has anyone awarded me merit more times than Vod, who thinks I'm a scammer?).  It was at that point I realized that you'll do whatever it takes to inflate your perceived self worth, and I only wish I had seen it and blocked you sooner as any interaction with you on this forum is certain to be a negative time waste.  




How could I have been more clear?  Clearly there is a moron involved here, I'm just not sure you realize who.



Thanks for pulling this data.  I see you did give me a merit on that date you mention, how weird you mention that date.  It was on that day around a year ago you made the comment that I knew I would be in store for some drama.  All of this dates back to not some imaginary DT2 inclusion, but because I left a trust feedback for Quickseller for a smooth and successful several thousand dollar deal.  It was never a matter of if I would be able to avoid drama with you, it was only a matter of when you'd attack.  Judging from the trust feedback you left me, we now have our answer.  


Anyone else notice whenever I point out trust abuse, it seems to go ignored and I get attacked instead of my concern being responded to?  I wonder why that is?

This probably explains why I have so many random trust exclusions, including by those who I have traded with and that have left trust feedback for me. It would also give credence to what TECSHARE was claiming was happening to him.....this actually may be something that should be further researched in regards to TECHSHARE.


This sounds like both trust farming, trust list abuse, and merit abuse....by a merit source. It appears he has issued a negative rating against you in retaliation to your post, so perhaps we can add trust abuse to the list.  

I really don't understand why people take Vod seriously given his....condition. Even back in the day when theymos (in retrospect, it is likely this was actually BadBear) took seriously the integrity of DT, and the integrity of the ratings left by the DT network, Vod was often allowed to go unchecked in his egregious, erratic behavior.

Vod seems to have an obsession with the power associated with being on DT, similar to many others that are currently on DT today (which has made both the trust system and the forum as a whole very toxic). In 2015, BadBear threatened to exclude Vod from his trust list if Vod did not resolve the negative rating/issues he had with TECSHARE, which resulted in Vod quickly removing his negative rating to avoid being removed from DT (even though nothin had really changed) -- Vod would not have actually been removed from DT, he only did this because of his misunderstanding of how the system worked:

Vod, please smoke a fat blunt on 420.

Show that PM thread - cause I am calling you a liar.  (Hint:  Our conversation was on Apr 6, 2018)

And since you didn't deny my accusation, I guess you are a hypocrite just like your moron Quickseller.

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Edit:  Did I shower you with merit around april 6, 2018?

A search of my PMs with you shows that you have messaged me about Quickseller multiple times over the years until I eventually blocked PMs from you.  I don't believe I ever added him to my trust settings though and think you literally pulled that out of your ass, as I've reviewed our exchange of messages.  You were crying about a trust feedback I left because we had a successful business deal even though I noted his prior bad behavior in my feedback, and explained why I left it anyway.  This while continually asking me to leave you a trust rating and add you to my network while showering me with Merit at the time.  Between that pathetic manipulation attempt failure escalating to you telling me that you'd add me to your distrust list unless I removed trust ratings for Anduck and Quickseller and if I did you would add me to your trust list, I really think you are part of the problem.  For my part, I told you to..., blocked you, and kept the trust ratings even though this has resulted in me carrying a -1 DT rating and thus effecting me far more than the other parties involved.  This is called integrity.  Your latest comment of "has done nothing wrong to everyone else" is just an example of how you look the other way for those who support your agenda and is in no way related to anything I've said despite your fantasies otherwise.  You really are a slimy user and I honestly think you and Blazed were the main causes of the old DT's failure.  It is no surprise that you're still grasping for control and trying to bully people with the new system.  If DT is so important to you that you're willing to bully others and minimize their contributions for some misguided revenge scheme, have at it.  I won't fight you.  However, I won't pretend you are a white knight either when you act like a slimy wannabe bully.

This is a weird thing to say....

Perhaps you can document or otherwise backup this....or is this something you are lying about?

Reminds me of when, years ago, I initially PMed you about including the moron Quickseller in your DT2 trust list.

You promptly told me he had done nothing wrong to you.  

So why the hypocrisy here?   "Last of the V8s" has done nothing wrong to everyone else... :/

We need to enforce an objective standard of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws before negative rating. Unless we do these issues will only continue to get worse as more and more people seek to elevate their status by destroying the status of others indiscriminately as if they are trying to rank up in a game.

Here's an example of the trust system's stupid shit.  Last of the V8s claims I scammed 2,100 BTC.  This is untrue, and yet some of the con-artists on DT have actually included this moron.  Using this guy's logic, every single company or organization that has ever offered ownership and hasn't yet returned 100% of the stock's price in the form of a dividend measured by a volatile currency is a scam (spoiler alert: this is every publicly traded company in the world).  They're literally making things up.  It's this sort of ignorance that's dangerous and those who include them in DT to further their agenda need to be pushed out of the DT system if we're to restore any sense of legitimacy to the trust network.



If you haven't added ~Last of the V8s to exclude this bottom feeder from your trust settings yet, you should.  Those who have included this user should also take a long look at what sort of ignorance they're enabling and hopefully at some point the community will hold them accountable as well.

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Edit:
Here's another user, Hellot, who was trying to help scam me and is included into DT by other con-artists only because of their negative trust rating on my account.  In the last 3 1/2 years, this user has left 3 users trust ratings.  A negative rating to isoneguy who popped up and left a bunch of bogus negative ratings.   A negative rating to me for not letting myself be scammed and a positive rating for minerjones.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=351430

~Hellot should also be added to exclude him from the trust network and those including his ratings should be looked at.

Now that's what I call stupid shit for a bright-red trusted user to do.

Anduck and Vod left negative trust to each other. It's clear actmyname don't think they deserve that negative so he left counter feedback.
Theymos has said it's OK to do that if you strongly disagree with the left feedback.
Why is that stupid? A more complete description would have been better but that feedback is absolutely OK.

if you are one of the mafia members and you've got red trusted they will do anything to reverse that,counter for what? counter strike? LOL

Here's another example of stupid shit going on:



On user Vod: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vod-30747

Edit: it was also a counter on Anduck's profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/anduck-31931

Hold on, you don't trust my link to a loan because 4 years ago I'm alleged to have had some alt accounts? You think I made photobook to use later as a "perfect example against my trust". Oh, the stories we could make based off forum replies