Topic: Tracking the Trust System's Stupid Shit - page 2. (Read 3337 times)

"Carry on", through bullshit? Yeah, I'm doing so thanks - still more ideal to have a proper reflection on here. It's basically a second chance and just because a handful of people after reading the opinions of the same handful of people let their Crypto paranoia overcome them doesn't mean there is "overwhelming consensus".

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Now OG starts a new game... repeated threads and drama where he cherry picks words to cover his lies.

Since OG's trust abuse can't be noticed as easily, we decided to stop using trust and argue forever. 

And that ladies and gentlemen is the Trust System’s Stupid Shit.

Thanks for playing.

How many times have you added / removed Lauda from your abusive trust list, scammer?  


He never will remove anyone willingly.  He will just lie about it. 

Then provide proof of your claims, for once, so people actually believe you. It's not a difficult concept, and you might actually get somewhere if you did it.

There's a reason you were booted off of DT1, and it's not because the system is wrong.

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Your obvious trolling is obvious. I'm a fool for thinking you could ever have the humility to admit you were wrong.

minifrij, your rating is a joke, and your constant removal/replacing of it because you think you’re special and your ratings should matter more than others show the delusions are all on your side buddy.

Thank you, I appreciate that.

I must admit that I made judgement too quickly in your case (mostly because of being swept up in all the commotion). I can do nothing but apologize for this, and due to it I've not gone into the 'scam-hunter' area since.

And, I still stand by making this thread as I did at the time (hence it being reopened once the whole thing had settled down, until there was a confirmation by a staff member). I hope that you know that it wasn't personal, and in the same situation - at the same time - I would've made the thread about anyone that openly admitted to such.

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So, we now have the following people saying that I'm not guilty (if we take the 'innocent until proven guilty' route):

1. The person that was extorted:
2. The extortionist:
3: A neutral third party:

And yet I am still painted as such. You can bitch about how I revoked my apology after you blatantly disrespected me multiple times, Og, but the rating by you on my profile is a lie and there is no solid proof to support it. The same cannot be said about mine on yours.

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Edit - Just to give some proof of how my rating is accurate:
Once. I sent you an apology once, for using personal insults when talking to you. I've never said that I take back any of the distrust, or actions I've taken towards you. You then continued to call me a scammer and a criminal, which is nothing but unwarranted lies, and so I revoked it.
"Do you know how many times he's pretended to apologize..." seems to imply that is more than once - twisted words to make me look bad.

I replaced my neutral feedback - which had no effect on your trust score - twice. The negative currently on your profile is the first one that I have ever left you, and will stay there.
"he replaces his feedback regularly to give it more visibility" seems to imply that I am abusing the trust system by replacing a negative feedback - twisted words to make me look bad.

And yet again, you are trying to call on theymos to overrule a decentralized system because you personally dislike the result of it. Get over yourself, you're not special.

Ya, the crazy thing is that minifrij apologizes, and then continues his attacks if you don't obey his commands...  Do you know how many times he's pretended to apologize, removed feedback, and then replaced it with nonsense ratings like the most recent here:



It's this constant attacking of innocent people over a period of years for pointing out his misbehavior and lack of trustworthiness that honestly is more concerning than the half-witted attempts to silence an extortion victim.  He is clearly the guilty party in this situation, but yet it's my trust rating that is marked negative as he replaces his feedback regularly to give it more visibility.  This is the sort of behavior that is detrimental to the trust system and he should be removed from DT2 for it.  The trust system needs to be cleansed of users who do not follow it's intent and those who enable this behavior.

You would need more then one staff member.

Two for English posts.

And some kind of setup for other languages.

I guess the English post guy or girl  could both be fluent in three languages .

So two full time would cover six languages.

Quit lying marco. I have revised my feedback once as did some others. How many third, fourth, nth chances do you need? Had you stopped fucking around with exit-scam-sized loans you'd still have a positive trust rating. You know you lost your argument when your only defense is to make up an army of straw people. And yes, the overwhelming consensus is that you're wrong but as you said multiple times those ratings don't prevent you from getting loans so why don't you carry on with that and stop whining.

I appreciate your apology and I accept it Like you stated, I have moved on on this whole thing years ago.

Just bring some light to the whole case from my point of view:

Although minifrij wasn't directly involved with the whole case, he was pretty active on the side of the case. Instead of actively making subjective claims and accusations, he used information he gathered to come to his own conclusion, while still being very communicative with the ones who were directly involved. Hence the simultaneous actions being taken along with TMAN and Lauda within this forum (thread locking, ...). However, I cannot say for sure if he was assisting the others in their extortion attempt or not, but I can recall that while he tried to be as neutral as possible, his messages on slack were rather supportive to the "extortion ring" (might be because of peer pressure).

Although he never accused me directly, he did publish a thread in indirect efforts to ban my account with the reasoning of ban evasion, before locking it again after we tried to settle the case privately instead of making wild accusations throughout the forum... He reopened a thread requesting for me to be banned after I told him that theymos has cleared me of previous rule-breakings, just to have an official proof posted publicly.

Some could say that the possible threat of an account ban proposed by minifrij might be part of the whole extortion. But for me this whole thing has been settled years ago and in my eyes, minifrij has tried to be as neutral as possible in contrast to the others who just tried to hurt my reputation using their "witch hunt" method of scam accusations.

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I can vouch for Og for being very supportive in such a situation while other people who trusted me previously were blinded by those fake accusations. He tried to be objective as possible and tried to cheer me up through the whole witch hunt. People who are still accusing Og for running a ponzi or being a trust abuser are like the witch hunters who tried to hurt me. There is a reason why his trust allows him to be a treasurer of this forum.

Ok first off, thank you for being willing to consider. Though understand that most people on this forum can't formulate a genuine opinion/conclusion by themselves so they copy whatever person makes the first move ("oh yeah, that seems right, I second the notion" kind of bullshit). This is not directed to anyone, just a general observation I've made. Next, they stick to their opinions like glue - look into the history of some of my trust-leavers you'll see how arrogant some are (pots calling the kettle black? are we all in the wrong? probably..).

lol.. not worth reading further.

Vod, let me explain it to you (and to others who may feel confused as you shamelessly deny these events...) I use color coding to increase clarity.


Proof for blue part:


That's your reply to OgNasty's question about being distrusted. Your reply states that the reason for your distrust towards OgNasty is that he trusts Anduck and Quickseller.

Proof for red part:


This further clarifies that the only reason for your sudden change from trusted to distrusted is these two ratings, and clearly implies that if those were to go away, trust would be back to what it was: trusted.

Vod you're a documented liar. More lies at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39447493

They will have to if you make up the PM that was "telling me that you'd add me to your distrust list unless I removed trust ratings for Anduck and Quickseller and if I did you would add me to your trust list"

You can't produce that PM - you are a liar.

I'm sure an Administrator could verify that all of the messages I quoted from you are from legitimate Vod PMs.  Keep digging that hole.

So many words and no proof that I ever sent PM(s)  "telling me that you'd add me to your distrust list unless I removed trust ratings for Anduck and Quickseller and if I did you would add me to your trust list"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50652615

You are a liar.   

I gave Vod multiple opportunities to apologize and put this behind us, even saying that was my preference.  From Vod's first comment on the thread starting this fight, to his refusal to issue a simple apology for his lies, it was clear he asked for me to provide him with a justification for my words.  I am now doing so at his request against my wishes.

Vod, you are a liar and owe me an apology.  Here's your proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-is-a-liar-extortionist-get-him-out-of-dt-5136576

I hope you read that first PM you sent to all DT1 members back in 2015, and recognize just how far your attitude has strayed from when you were trusted with such a responsibility.

I haven't blocked you Marco, as I still see a ray of hope for you.

You keep PMing me to "reconsider" your trust, but you don't provide any new information. 

11 different people have left you negative feedback and instead of seeing that, you just call us all bullshitters.  :/  No wonder they ignore you.

Get your act together before you PM asking for more chances, ok?