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June 07, 2020, 07:22:34 AM
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May 27, 2020, 04:10:10 AM
It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

Well, I wrote. Mega popular tournaments are unpredictable. Too evenly matched. The best is the medium games... But here we have too little regulation and too much risk of dishonesty...
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May 25, 2020, 02:38:52 AM
It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

Then why don't you just ignore it and just bet on predictable tournaments/events? Problem solved.

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For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning.
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In fact, this is what makes it more predictable. In live betting where it is provided by several betting sites, you can place a bet after seeing the draft so you can be more confident with your bet.

So don't just place a bet on a pre-match.
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May 24, 2020, 06:14:54 AM
In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.

Yup, its kind of hard to predict the outcome of the game just by picking the best team. One mistake of that team can be the turning point of the game, anyone can lose. There is so much to think of in e-sports game. For example in dota 2, picking is a crucial part too, the team who outpicks the enemy team has more chance in winning. Its kind of tricky also when it comes to a team with a new player. How can you predict that the new player can blend with the team if you haven't see him play for the team a couple of times.
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May 24, 2020, 03:57:02 AM
It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..

so what's your angle as a bettor? which e-sports---or i guess more importantly what levels of competition and odds---do you find worth betting on?

i'm finding some interesting plays with good odds on lower tier tournaments. (~major for SC2/brood wars, minor for dota 2, re liquipedia tier)

i'm gonna try a strategy where i focus on high variance matches with long odds where i think books are underpricing underdogs. i've been doing a lot of research the last couple days and this seems somewhat common.
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May 23, 2020, 02:55:14 AM
Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.

It's all good, but you can't really win anything with these games. Here, it's like in other sports. The bigger the tournament, the more unrealistic for the bettors to make $$

For example. Finals, semi-finals of the UEFA champions league, FIFA world CUP.
At such matches nobody wins. Simple. It's just the excitement and entertainment at this level

In Dota International same..
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May 17, 2020, 06:30:32 AM
Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
Do you mean the smurfs? those accounts that shouldn't be on the rank that they are playing? I also dealt with those kinds of players but it's just them playing on lower rank and Valve are punishing those players. What I'm telling you isn't about the rank games or normal games that we used to play. But, it's about the tournament plays and official games with prizes that's being broadcasted all over the world with many shoutcasters and streamers. I guess that's what you meant to say and it's not related to the official league and tournaments.
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May 17, 2020, 04:49:55 AM
In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

E sports betting.is.not simple, it's demanding and to my opinion it's for analytical types of players. So, yes, I agree if you want to be successful in e sport betting you need to.do a lot of research and collect a lot of information but not many people have preferences for that, they prefere easy way. That is why to my opinion e sports betting doesn't have much fans.
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May 17, 2020, 03:13:08 AM
In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Definitely it requires research and you knowledge about the team and the individual players and their strength and weakness. This would help you to judge who may have the better side of winning under the given conditions and also some games may be dependent on which ground and country it is player and some team or players are best suited to perform best in those specific grounds. Also, such information should be known before betting on e-sports.
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May 17, 2020, 02:19:48 AM
Here you can find the List of TOP 10 E-Sports Betting Sites: http://sportstatist.com/e-sports-betting-sites-eng/
legendary
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May 16, 2020, 09:28:56 PM
In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.

Not only do you need to know the team and each player and how their chemistry fares out in their plays, more importantly you need to know the game itself. It would be a lacking analysis if you are familiar with the teams and their line-ups and their statistics but not the eSports game itself. There may be strengths and weaknesses of players and teams that won't easily reflect on their stat numbers.
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May 16, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
In my opinion, making money from e-sports betting is not easy, because it requires our analytical skills for the team and the e-sports players.
We cannot expect intuition to succeed in e-sport betting, so we need to dig up a lot of information and do it research in order to predict the course
of the match. It's not easy, but if we focus on deep analysis, we can succeed in making money from e-sport betting.
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May 16, 2020, 01:30:36 PM
Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.

You gotta be kidding me. Read on the reddit about what shafts are in the dock. Players only pretend to be and play serious...  They get killings that are ridiculous and it happens regularly. I'm really sorry to see that.
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May 15, 2020, 03:09:48 PM

Insider betting tips of OP seem like spam alone. Why do they have to make their website close for anyone? The only way for it to work is to spam that sporttalk.com

My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.

That is smart approach. Results are always the best when you feel selfconfident and you are familiar with that sport. Gambling mainly depends on luck, however some knowledge about the sport you bet can only help.
I have the similar approach and only rare I choose sports where I play only on luck and I'm not following it I'm not a fan. I don't believe in paid tools so I don't use them.

Its an Esport, everybody chat on the internet and the players can even chat with each other while playing. Hard to bet in games like this when they can just talk about who shall win. It's best to just stick to real sports, men's sports like UFC.
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May 15, 2020, 02:37:55 PM
My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.

That is smart approach. Results are always the best when you feel selfconfident and you are familiar with that sport. Gambling mainly depends on luck, however some knowledge about the sport you bet can only help.
I have the similar approach and only rare I choose sports where I play only on luck and I'm not following it I'm not a fan. I don't believe in paid tools so I don't use them.
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May 15, 2020, 11:40:53 AM
Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
Why do you say that? I'll tell you that there are Russian teams but if it's the competitive scene of Dota 2, these professionals are playing fair and square. Maybe you're talking about the normal matches and rank games? The tournament games can easily be seen on their streams so if somebody is cheating, they can easily be caught by the organizers and even the viewers. Or let us say that there's somebody or a team that cheats during a professional league, they're putting their careers into the pit. And Dota 2 isn't just about them but all regions are involved, SEA, North America, South America, China, EU, and CIS.
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May 15, 2020, 07:35:22 AM
My strategy when betting is simple i only wager on sports i know and often watched. It would be harder to decide and to analyze if you dont know the teams and their gameplay and their recent history. But some people use paid tools or create themselves mostly this are AI's, i recommend you take a look if you're interested.
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May 15, 2020, 04:42:01 AM
Depends alot on the game, but teamwork counts alot for integrity of results and likelihood the team is practising together, etc.   I got alot more faith in an underdog bet when I believe that team has underlying potential to keep improving and surprising in their results, alot of that revolves around the team spirit being healthy.   The biggest mistake people make is counting results evenly when some games wont have the effort spent on them over others, some enemy teams or the map choice allows an easier result.
There are a lot of analysis that we need to know in order to win in Esports betting. Before you place a bet you need to know who's underdog and who's have upper hand. I often bet in dota 2 and I have high win rate because I always identifying the strength and the weaknesses of the team before I bet my money.  
for instance?
share these tools because apart from hltv, I don't see anything worth using...

In what game do you mean by that word 'often'?
Not specifically a certain game, but in general.
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I don't know about the other games but I'm pretty sure that in Dota 2 and CSGO the percentage of fixed match is small especially if its big tournament or atleast minor tier.
How are you sure? Do you have any proof and would like to show it or tell about it?

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I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that i mentioned before.
eSports still seem much easier to fix. In a real match where players are sweating and beating each other up, primal emotions become more obvious, impulsiveness and anger often fuel a player to forget his promise to the bookie to lose the match and may end up doing something rash which may lead to a win. Chances that the big whale who paid the team to take part in fixing ends up going South.

Thats what I have felt in game, but play acting is also possible so you may have a point worth discussing too.

Not necessarily. Imagine the equipment and artificial AI that detects that a player doesn't play 100% of his or her abilities, but just plays worse and makes mistakes that are unusual? You think this is not possible?


Thanks for that, I needed it.

I still think that fixed match cases in esports are way less than sports, based on two games that I mentioned before.

We don't know what is happening behind that curtain.

All we know is that these professional players do their best to take home this prize money. In Dota 2, there are a lot of players getting banned because of this, and they really regret they did it. For me, it is not that less but a lot of things proved that fixing is not a thing anymore. In the past, we can only see the games being played, right now we can see how players evolve and rage in a tournament showing their regrets when they commit mistakes.

Dota is a game better to be avoided - 50 % russian cheaters
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May 07, 2020, 07:36:49 AM

In these cases you can definitely turn a profit if you know the game and the teams inside out.

Exactly! , That's the main and simplest trick in making profit out of betting either ESports or Sportsbetting.
I guess analyzing the game in ESports is a lot more complicated (example Dota2) than sports like basketball, football, and etc. Because you need to look at the team chemistry, the hero picks, possible scenario and outcome.
I don't know what else to consider in analyzing a match in Dota2 since I haven't played the game for 5 years now, but what I really think, is its more challenging to place a bet specially if both teams are very good.

Unfortunately, the biggest risk is not an clean esports. There are many cases of casual fixe matches and unfortunately it is difficult to prove it.

And I don't agree with that argument. I don't really have much to analyse. The choice of heroes is not up to us. I don't know that before the game. So what if we have live? It's just one game. And secondly, during LIVE BET, the odds are drastically understated. You can't practically win there.


That I think is difficult to win over if there are fixed matches. And it is real and happening. Even if you know the game by heart, if the match is fixed, you can't do anything about it. But yes, that's difficult to know and prove because only few people know about this. And you have no way of knowing this.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/esports-betting-match-fixing

https://www.gamopo.com/esports-match-fixing/

Are these the only two organizations that regulate it ? you know some other places where you can get a better understanding of the procedures and how to prevent for small leagues and tournaments ?
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May 03, 2020, 01:56:50 AM
Unfortunately, as with pretty much all forms of betting/gambling, there are no guarantees to get regular wins. With that being said though, there will be people who manage to win bets more consistently. Esports is very similar to traditional sports when it comes to betting, but I do believe it can be easier to track and make more solid predictions.

I spent a few months betting on esports, focusing on League of Legends, CS:GO and Call of Duty and found this to be particularly useful - https://www.esportsbets24.com/

They help break down the tips and tricks that you'll likely find the most benefit from and also post predictions for some of the biggest esports matches. Like I said at the start though, there's never a guaranteed win when gambling, but taking advice and predictions from some websites like that could help you find a little more success when betting on esports.
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