Topic: Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season - page 71. (Read 18106 times)

Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are still quite consistent in the Turkish League at the moment but Besiktas doesn't seem to be very consistent in the last 5 matches. Besiktas was only able to achieve 2 wins, 2 of which were losses and 1 draw. Besiktas has lost 8 points from the last 5 matches and the difference in points from Galatasaray and Fenerbahce it's already too far, namely 11 points and I think Besiktas is having a little difficulty catching up with the difference in points that far, whereas Besiktas' current position is in the top 5. Besiktas will have to fight hard in this match so that they don't lose any more points and if Besiktas is able to get 3 points maybe there will be changes in the top 3 positions because Kayserispor will face a quite tough match against Fenerbahce.

This match is difficult to predict because Fenerbahce and Kayserispor are both in good form but Fenerbahce will still be the favorite even though they have to play away from home if you look at the h2h data of the last 5 meetings. Fenerbahce dominates the victory over Kayserispor. I think betting on Fenerbahce or a draw is a bet convincing.

This is going way too far and I think we should keep in mind that this is taking place within the Turkish league. I believe if this happened in an international tournament, the guy like this president would argue that this could also be racism. But it's insane how they are blowing up the league these days. What does the president think walking on the pitch forcing his players to cancel the game? Nobody was able to stop him? Even if it is true that there were two critical decisions, nothing would ever justify the action taken by Istanbulspor's president.

The league as we know it again. The referees are still the same, nothing has changed unfortunately, wrong decisions continue to be made.
The VAR system is a disaster. It could be a justified rebellion. Istanbulspor did tonight what no other team could do. congratulations.

The chairman know the consequences but he did it anyway. That shows us a lot of people even in management want this change, no matter what. Referees suck but this is not news, referees always suck. Last years something different happens, we are not in normal times. Foreign referee is an option because referee quality is significantly lower than other leagues. You might argue that even in Premier League referees make very controversial mistakes but ulterior motive is sought here. People don't see wrong calls as bad judgment. They think there is something else dirty underneath. This is the biggest difference between our league and other big leagues.

İstanbulspor will be penalized probably the game will be 0-3 and they will lose some more points. The chairman exactly knew this. Every week we see a different incident and the scale of this is increasing exponentially. What's next? Killing a referee? What happened is sad, but it's sadder that nothing has changed.

Last week the referee was beaten and this time Istanbulspor withdrew from the match because they didn't like the decisions.The president of Istanbulspor decided to withdraw the team from the field and had the match abandoned.The clubs who are rebelling against the bad management of the referees want this to change but we see that there is no move on this issue yet.I think there is not enough training for the referees in the Turkish league and we have seen many times before that the decisions of the referees affect the matches in a strange way.I wonder when this will stop.

Fenerbahce should definitely win, even though their opponent had some decent games, Fenerbahce has been at the top since the start and they have like 150+ million more valuation on their team, they are much better, just because their opponent is close as well doesn't mean that they are nearly as good, it just means that everyone else is that much bad. Two teams in this league should win all the games they play, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray.

We all know they will have losses one or two, they already had one, so it is not like a shocking thing, but they "should" win all their games, it will not be all that simple to just let it be. They will have some games where it is a loss or a draw, but they should be winning them all, and betting against them would be not a smart move.

Actually selling off key players from a club is actually one of the factors that brings downfall to most of the clubs, although we no that there is need for club to be wealthy but selling off there key players is not the right thing to do because after selling those players the club will be left with smaller players that are still struggling to actualize there skills, just like Borussia Dortmund if they had known the potential of Haaland they would have not have sold him the way they did because I believe by now they most have been regretting why they sold him because his performance would have been of a great beneficial to Borussia Dortmund but now Manchester City is enjoying the performance Haaland has been giving them and if perhaps Manchester City is ready to sell him they will surely sell him two times higher than what they bought him with because Haaland is a big assets to whichever club he join.

Also I believe that Barcelona is also suffering the same thing because they sold some of there key players and now the ones that are left are not giving the club what they want and however they are still facing some financial challenges so coming back for them next season with a good performance is not certain because there is no money for them to buy some good players.

Those 3 teams you mentioned are the top 3 in the Turkish league and they're seriously in a tough competition for the title race this season, and since their next matches aren't very tough ones, they’ll all want to secure the three points and main, ain consistency to get ahead of eachother, but they’ll need to be careful cause sometimes the teams we feel are inferior can be very stubborn and make a big team drop points, well Besiktas and Galatasaray are  a very strong team and i expect them to maintain their consistency.

 You're right, unlike other top Turkish teams, Fenerbahce would be in a tight corner cause they'll be facing another tough Turkish team that's kept a good record in their past 5 matches, well if they work very hard there's a possibility of them breaking Kayserispor's winning streaks, however i feel this is going to be a draw match since both teams are in a good form currently.

Maybe for the match between Galatasaray and Beşiktaş they will get the full 3 points because they are favored playing at home and their opponents like Fatih Karagűmrűk and Alanyaspor are not strong clubs so I think top clubs like Galatasaray and Beşiktaş are capable of winning the match. if they are able to take advantage of home opportunities well, especially Galatasaray who have had a winning streak recently.

However, for Fenerbahçe, I think this is not an easy match because Kayserispor is in its best form this season and they have not lost in the last 5 matches, which means that Kayserispor cannot be underestimated. Especially since this match will take place at their headquarters Fenerbahçe will probably face difficulties. when they visit their headquarters but I think Fenerbahçe can still handle it, after all, Kayserispor mostly achieves draws and maybe Kayserispor will try to hold Fenerbahçe to a draw rather than having to lose the full 3 points.

According to media reports, Edin Dzeko is injured and did not train. According to some reports, he might not play in the derby on Sunday. Of course, the final situation will be known after the MRI, but the news is not very good. He is 37 years old, but he has a very good performance. He has 12 goals and 4 assists in 15 games this season. He is at the top of the scoring charts. In games without him, our offense is weakened. If he doesn't play in the derby, I think our chances against Galatasaray will decrease.

We have the derby in the 24/12 in the christmas, before we have one game, but that game is only important in terms of saving legs and dont get a red card and miss the most important game of the season, both teams doesnt arrive in the best condition, because Galatasaray waste a splendid chance to go into round of 16 in UCL ,and Fenerbahce, comes dont doing so good in europe also.

It seems difficult for the big 3 to lose points in the matches to be played during the week. All three have relatively easy opponents. Fenerbahçe, which will play against Kayserispor on Wednesday, may have a hard time being away, but when we look at it as a team, I don't think Kayserispor will be able to resist much. Fenerbahçe will score a lot of goals and win again. Galatasaray is playing with Fatih Karagümrük. I see this match as a guaranteed Galatasaray victory. Beşiktaş will play against Alanyaspor at home. Despite the missing players, Beşiktaş will get 3 points from this match. I don't expect surprise results in the weekday matches.

Most people don't buy Beinsport to watch the games anymore, I think they are right because nobody enjoys the games anymore.
When this is the case, the income of the teams is decreasing, Beinsport doesn't want to buy the broadcasting rights.

I still don't think this system will improve, teams may downsize soon.

After the incident in the MKE Ankaragücü-Çaykur Rizespor match, the leagues were postponed indefinitely until further notice. But the Federation announced that the leagues will start on December 19. The matches of the 16th week were postponed to January. I think it is good that the leagues will start as soon as possible. Fenerbahçe had a bad performance in the last weeks. The break in the league could have been an opportunity for them to rest. From this point of view, I find it positive that the leagues started as soon as possible.

Regarding this issue of punishment, in my opinion it is not fair for an entire football team to be punished because of violent acts by one or a few people, let's imagine the following scenario: a football team X has 30 players, has members, has fans who they make donations, they have managers and they have a coach and their entire squad. These all receive salaries, they need the team to have fans in the stadium at each game, they need sponsors to continue sponsoring the team and fans to continue making donations to the team. It happens that on a certain day the president of team X attacks a referee in the middle of the game. Physical aggression is a crime and is punishable under the law in every country in the world and that's how it works

The football federation should severely punish the guy who attacked the referee and not punish the entire team and the entire league. Where is the team to blame in all this? Was it the whole team: coach, doctor, players who ordered the team president to attack the referee? They weren't, the guy who attacked the referee did that of his own free will, he acted on his own, but they are condemning the entire team. see that when they prohibit fans from going to watch the game at the stadium, they are blaming the fans for the bad behavior of the guy who attacked the referee, I don't think it's fair that many people pay for a crime committed by one or a few people, it's very wrong that. The guy who attacked the referee is over 18 years old, and a very adult man, so he must be charged and will answer in court. So why are they punishing the fans?

Football is sports and has been one  of the major form on entertainment, whereby we watch two teams try to dominate eachother on the pitch with their style of play and in return get paid for entertaining us, if footballers weren't getting paid well enough I don't think alot of players would want to continue playing football or even be interested in the work, cause it's a form of occupation in as much as one could develop passion for it, there's no doubt that alot of footballers are working to do better cause of the money.

 Well that has been a normal routine for Dortmund for long now, yes they would had been a better team if they weren't selling most of their key players to make profit, but it doesn't them a mediocre team cause they're still strong and tend to qualify for the UCL on a regular and despite the fact that they sold their key players they still got a good scouting network that help them recruit younger prospects to replace them.

The referees make very wrong decisions and they literally spoil the fun of watching the match. The decisions taken by the Federation are also shameful.

The fact that the club received only a 5-match suspension after all these incidents seems like a mockery, and every viewer is gradually moving away from watching football in Turkey due to such incidents. Whatever happens, it is somehow covered up.

Indeed, football also has goal of making money and of course football team owners will dare to invest their money because there is goal of being able to make more from every match played by the team.
Moreover, if football team is taking part in an important competition like the UCL, it is clear that the income from each match will also be very large, this is why big teams can always have big budgets and can take on great players for big salaries.
It just that on the other hand there are bad impacts that occur if football team only thinks about profits, either from matches or from profitable player sales.
For example, Dortmund in the Bundesliga has always been able to make profit from every player sale and now they are experiencing significant decline because several of their flagship players have been sold.
All of this is the result of too big goal in seeking excessive profits.

I know that and indeed there are still many team in Turkish football that cannot develop and only the top teams can always develop to take part in important competitions like the UCL.
Maybe if there are better changes in the future, Turkish football will be able to develop more and of course give other team the opportunity to participate in competitions like the UCL.

These punishments mean nothing for this man, there should be more severe punishments but I don't think there will be.

There is no justice in the country, will there be here?
The referees need to be trained urgently, most referees make wrong decisions and kill the matches.

This behavior from a former club President is very unexpected and unprofessional. Punching a referee for doing their job is never justified. Meler has suffered from a fracture beneath his left eye. Koca is also politically involved so he should make his decisions better. Banning him from football permanently doesn't do justice to the referee. He has been fined around 70 thousand USD as well.