Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season - page 73.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 13, 2023, 05:58:26 PM

As far as I know Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca has resigned from his job at the club. But he shouldn't be able to get away with this that easy to be honest. He has only been exported from AK Parti by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. But won't there be any legal punishment as well? I guess not and it is really sad to see the point Turkish football has come to.

Some legal experts pointed out a prison sentence for such action. But no matter how much they tell us this it doesn't matter unless it is applied. By the way as I expected the break won't last long. The leagues will be starting as of December 19.

Yup, he has resigned

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13028839/ankaragucu-president-faruk-koca-resigns-after-after-punching-referee-with-turkish-football-leagues-suspended-indefinitely

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I would like to announce to the public that I have resigned from the MKE Ankaragücü Presidency
in order to prevent any further harm to the Ankaragücü club, Ankaragücü fans, the community
I am in and my family.

I was thinking today again of what a ridiculous scenario that he put himself into, it was I'm sure
a moment of recklesness and of losing control of his emotions.

I was also thinking that he could have had a very large wager on his club to win that match but
it ended up being a draw and he lost . . . or that his job was on the line or something . . . I'm only
speculating of course.

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Football in the Turkish League have now become a corrupt sports, games are no longer played fairly and the outcomes however are just more or less inputed. The football bodies need to take a deep look at this league and send out necessary sanctions to all that requires it. First from the match officials that have now turned every game to a business just to go in the favor of the highest bidder. It's certain that if a game doesn't go fairly as it ought to, it'd cause fury in the fans and will in turn lead to break outs on the pitch. At thesame time, the fans ought to learn to control themselves and not cause disruption always in every game.

At this point in time, there's just disorderliness in the league and if something isn't done about it, then definitely there'd be a lot of errors that may likely not get fixed just easily. The correction should start from the top tho and the football bodies should put more focus and strength on every happenings in the league, strict policies should as well be implemented as it'll make for proactive measures to curbing the excesses from both the teams, the referees and the fans too. Orderliness should be restored so the league won't loose its integrity and worth.

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As far as I know Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca has resigned from his job at the club. But he shouldn't be able to get away with this that easy to be honest. He has only been exported from AK Parti by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. But won't there be any legal punishment as well? I guess not and it is really sad to see the point Turkish football has come to.

Some legal experts pointed out a prison sentence for such action. But no matter how much they tell us this it doesn't matter unless it is applied. By the way as I expected the break won't last long. The leagues will be starting as of December 19.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 12, 2023, 02:39:49 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 12, 2023, 06:04:12 AM

What happened last night is a disgrace.
There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that.
They destroyed the reputation of our country.
The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.

Yes a pure disgrace, unbelievable actually its something that I kind of expected, there
is so much emphasis put on respect in the game, it just goes to show there is no respect.

I stopped watching football a few years ago, too much negativity, for me it outweighs
the beautiful moments in the sport.

You are probably right about there being no punishment...

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/turkish-club-president-arrested-punching-referee-minister-2023-12-12/

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The club president Koca was twice elected to Turkey's parliament as part of
President Tayyip Erdogan's ruling AK Party.

It could go two ways, he will either be hung out to dry or protected by his political friends.

Ankaragücü president Faruk Koca had previously received the Fair Play award. Imagine, a president who has received a Fair play award comes down to the field and punches the referee. No fan in Turkey is happy with the referee's decisions, but there was a smell that such an incident would happen, and when it did, it was a disgrace. The referees are protesting, they have come together and they are right, they are also afraid now. It is very interesting that the fans applaud the club president as he leaves the field. Could such a thing happen because of the violence he committed?

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A few things to note, for me is not so good to delay the torunament fot this incident, is a very heavy one, but i think is most usefull to punish the team or the man who punched the referee than stop the whole league.

In other things, what a shame from Galatasaray.... they can go easy to round of 16 in Champions, and they lose against a weak team like Copenaghe.

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With the meeting held today, a statement came out that the indefinitely postponed leagues will resume on December 19.I think this statement was made in an unfortunate way.The TFF had taken the decision to postpone indefinitely very hastily.Now the matches will be shifted to the following week and Fenerbahçe will go away while Galatasaray will play at home. It seems to me that everything was planned.Galatasaray were going to go to Sivasspor away but it was announced that they would continue with the fixture a week later.This way the Sivasspor game would be played later because Galatasaray would be tired from the Copenhagen game.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 12, 2023, 06:04:12 AM

What happened last night is a disgrace.
There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that.
They destroyed the reputation of our country.
The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.

Yes a pure disgrace, unbelievable actually its something that I kind of expected, there
is so much emphasis put on respect in the game, it just goes to show there is no respect.

I stopped watching football a few years ago, too much negativity, for me it outweighs
the beautiful moments in the sport.

You are probably right about there being no punishment...

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/turkish-club-president-arrested-punching-referee-minister-2023-12-12/

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The club president Koca was twice elected to Turkey's parliament as part of
President Tayyip Erdogan's ruling AK Party.

It could go two ways, he will either be hung out to dry or protected by his political friends.

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Yesterday, Super League referee Halil Umut Meler was beaten in the match.Ankaragücü team executives who jumped on the field with the final whistle of the match beat Halil Umut Meler.After this incident, the TFF decided to postpone the leagues immediately and the referees had decided not to go to the matches before that. At the moment, the leagues in Turkey have been postponed indefinitely.Some people find this wrong, but some find it right.There are also many who think that the TFF took a hasty decision.If the match, which was not postponed when Fenerbahçe's bus was shot at the time, is now postponed because the referee was beaten, this is a complete nonsense.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 11, 2023, 06:27:30 PM

There is no excuse for anyone to ever attack a person for doing their job. If you think a ref is a match-fixer (which isn't to be fair) you go through the proper channels to make sure they get punishment for it, asking for an elite level ref (literally graded the best in our league by UEFA) as a match fixer bad person is technically saying "this person deserved it because he was fixing a game", it is obvious from the start that there is absolutely no excuse for anything like this, no proof of it neither, and definitely no excuse, the president and the team should be just banned. Take the president to years of jail (trying to beat up a government official for doing his job and yes refs are government employees) and the team to much lower league, hell to amateur league if you want to, that's how people will learn to control themselves. This is disgusting by the team president, and I really hope law would finally do the right thing and I hope the ref would sue the president for every lira he has, I want the ref to have tens of millions of dollars in damages reward and I want to see that president living in poverty (and mostly in jail) for the rest of his life. Thats what the deserved outcome is.

Despite the fact that we're human beings and we get emotional we should learn to control our emotions, the chairman of Ankaragücü made a very wrong move by coming into the pitch to punch an officiating ref, what he did was uncalled for no matter what the situation maybe be, cause it's a big embracement to the Turkish football body and justice must take it's course, cause he must be punished for hitting a referee no matter his position in his club.

I remember last season when Jose Mourinho insulted and almost attacked a referee he claimed was being biased in the Europa League Final againt Sevilla, he was punished severely for his actions, therefore the (FIFA) body should look into the issue and ensure that the defaulters face the right punishment for their actions, else it would keep repeating itself and anyone could just run into the pitch and hit a play or officials.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on December 11, 2023, 10:19:58 AM

Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 05:59:30 AM

Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.

I think Beşiktaş should have done this decision much earlier so players would realize what are they dealing with. Such kind of lack of discipline is not tolerable. Beşiktaş was showing very bad performance especially in defense. Ghezzal never played like once he was, he was much better player in past. I think this will heal Beşiktaş wounds. They need to complete quick transfers at winter and terminate contract of such players if they wanna leave.

Yeah you are right Besiktas has posed a very poor performance lately because they have actually lose a lot of there home matches they were supposed to take advantage of, however there last match against Fenerbahce was very interesting match but Besiktas performance was nothing to right home about and they had to conceive there first goal on the 10 minutes of the match which they later equalize on the 24 minutes but however with the opportunity Fenerbahce had on that match if they had utilize most of them they would have scored Besiktas up to 4-1.

Yeah actually Besiktas truly need to make some good decisions during the transfer window because for them to really improve well they seriously need some good and talented players that would help and enhance the performance of the team but however considering there last match performance is quite obvious that they really need to also make some adjustments on there defense line.

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What happened last night is a disgrace.
There is nothing to say, even if the referees made right or wrong decisions, you can't do that.
They destroyed the reputation of our country.
The punishment should be severe but there will be no punishment because there is no justice in the country.

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There is no excuse for anyone to ever attack a person for doing their job. If you think a ref is a match-fixer (which isn't to be fair) you go through the proper channels to make sure they get punishment for it, asking for an elite level ref (literally graded the best in our league by UEFA) as a match fixer bad person is technically saying "this person deserved it because he was fixing a game", it is obvious from the start that there is absolutely no excuse for anything like this, no proof of it neither, and definitely no excuse, the president and the team should be just banned. Take the president to years of jail (trying to beat up a government official for doing his job and yes refs are government employees) and the team to much lower league, hell to amateur league if you want to, that's how people will learn to control themselves. This is disgusting by the team president, and I really hope law would finally do the right thing and I hope the ref would sue the president for every lira he has, I want the ref to have tens of millions of dollars in damages reward and I want to see that president living in poverty (and mostly in jail) for the rest of his life. Thats what the deserved outcome is.

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This was a really bad for the Turkish Super League. I can't believe that Ankaragücü chairman Faruk Koca came to the pitch and punched the referee Halil Umut Meler. This terrible action can't be defended in any way.

Maybe you aren't satisfied with the management of the match. But punching people isn't the solution to this. I wonder whether there will be any sanctions on Ankaragücü team after this action. Because they totally deserve a punishment. I also don't like the referees who make mistakes more than normal. But I never side with such action to be taken. Sad

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Unfortunately, with a registered terrorist at the head of the federation, football in Türkiye is going through the dirtiest period in its history. They beat a referee today. The fact that that referee is a registered match-fixer is on the one hand, and on the other hand, this dirty person who is still trying to manage a match when he should be imprisoned is attacked on the field by the dirty names of a dirty club. Turkish football has truly sunk to its lowest point.
In such an environment, which match should we talk about, how should we talk about the game on the field? The decisions made by the referees are no longer wrong, they are clearly made to change the score. People can't tolerate this anymore. Think a thousand times before betting on Turkish league matches. The results of the matches are not determined on the field.

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Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 05:59:30 AM

Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.

Did Aboubakar choose the times when the league was being played to have his hair transplanted? He should have been able to postpone a simple procedure for health reasons until the end of the league. Even the fact that he doesn't do this shows that he doesn't think about the team. The dismissal of staff by the new management is considered positive as an indicator of taking a stance. It is also said that he asked his manager to find a team in Arabia. It looks like he will go to Saudi Arabia again.

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Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 05:59:30 AM

Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.

I especially don't understand the attitude of Aboubakar. How can you have a hair transplant but act like you are ill? There is a derby game ahead of your team and you are dealing with these things. This is a disciplinary action for certain and I believe that Besiktas did the right thing by leaving him out of squad as of now.

I wouldn't expect this from Aboubakar honestly. He has a history with Besiktas and he had good memories in the past also.

However his performance in the recent times hasn't been good at all. So they might not even feel his absence after this.

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Could someone explain to me what happened so suddenly with all this many players are out? Was there like some sort of rebellion in the team by these players or something?

I mean I have heard the news that they have changed their president, that much is definitely known and published everywhere, but "why" these players are out of the roster is not shared, was there like some fight? Did these players fought between each other? That doesn't seem like something that happened because if it was then it would have been shared everywhere, but I wanted to make sure if I missed anything. What was the reason why all these many (and quite good) players are suddenly not in the roster? Seems like they are fine at third place, not like they are doing terrible.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 11, 2023, 10:26:41 AM

Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 05:59:30 AM

Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.

Beşiktaş should send Aboubakar out of the team, this kind of player should not be kept in any team.
A player who only plays for money and plays when he feels like it.
Aboubakar has done this behavior before but Beşiktaş bought him again.

Aboubakar is one of the most important players in the Besiktas squad. But players should be professional. But although Aboubakar is a good player, I don't see professional behavior from him. This is why the Besiktas management took the decision to keep Aboubakar out of the squad. I would say it is the right decision. If Aboubakar had continued with such unprofessional behavior and the management had not taken any action, it would have had an adverse effect on Besiktas' squad. Other players in the squad would also be furious.

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Quote from: Jossque on December 11, 2023, 09:48:01 AM

Kayserispor have started to improve their form.Kayserispor, who have been on the rise in recent weeks, won 2-0 in their match against Pendikspor yesterday and managed to increase their points to 29.Thus, although they do not have much chance in the championship race, they still show that they are a strong competitor.With this win, they moved to 3rd place.If we look at the overall game, they played a good game, but Pendikspor did not play badly either.They want to get out of the relegation line, but the transfers they will make between the halves will make them a team with more potential.
In the last match of the day yesterday, we watched Gaziantep FK - Trabzonspor.Trabzonspor played a good game in this away match and got 3 points with 3 goals.The match actually started in the second half for them.The first half ended in a goalless draw, but Trabzonspor, who reflected their will to win from the first minutes of the second half, did not have difficulty in finding goals.

Kayserispor has been drawing my attention in recent weeks. They really win almost every match, they are doing very well, but due to the points they lost at the beginning of the season, there are a lot of points between them and the top 2 teams.
However, if they continue to play like this, Kayserispor may be having one of the best seasons in its history. It's a pretty good thing for them, maybe we'll watch them in European matches too

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Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 05:59:30 AM

Aboubakar, Rosier, Bailly, Ghezall and Onana are out of the squad at Beşiktaş. The new management showed its attitude clearly, good move. Rosier said he had a stomach ache and hasn't played for 3 weeks. Especially Aboubakar's reluctant attitude is not acceptable. I still don't want to believe Aboubakar, they said he didn't play for 2 weeks because he had a hair transplant. It is an indisputable fact that Aboubakar is very talented. Sometimes he has the ability to win the match even alone. But his unwillingness to perform these days is not acceptable. We can say Beşiktaş's season is already lost, so these kind of power moves are very good in my opinion. Indiscipline must not be tolerated.

Beşiktaş should send Aboubakar out of the team, this kind of player should not be kept in any team.
A player who only plays for money and plays when he feels like it.
Aboubakar has done this behavior before but Beşiktaş bought him again.

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