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Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Turns out he said "stupid" that's the report. I think a second yellow card (nearly the same result) would have been fine for that, but when you consider that a player who is already winning and it's 90+ additional time period, Fred knows he should not be still arguing with the ref. He was aware what he was doing, and he was aware that he was looking to get a second yellow card.

I think pastor did what he did for christmas, he was like that back at premier league and still same thing happened. I do not know how christmas is in turkey, but I assume he would leave for brazil and go back to his family, so it doesn't even matter. I know Turkey is a muslim nation but they do seem to have a lot of players and people who are christians as well, so maybe he will stay, I do not know to be fair.

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 10:22:01 AM

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
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You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.

I'm not going to argue with you because you have a narrow view and you're probably a Galatasaray fan. If I ask you why Torreira wasn't shown a red card for swearing yesterday, you'll get defensive again so there's no need. You are thinking one sided and not looking at the big picture. It was a deliberate operation and referees are always appointed in the same way. Zorbay Küçük's record against Fenerbahçe is clear. We can also see from the statistics that he issued most of the red cards against Fenerbahçe. This man is a hitman and he always does the same before or during important matches.
By the way, I don't care about uncles. Uncles do not take the UEFA exam, referees do. Let me also state that someone who draws 0 here means that he does not know any words in English.

You are absolutely right, I am a Galatasaray fan but I don't think like you, yes there is an operation against Fenerbahce but it is not only against Fenerbahce, it is against most teams in the league. I have been advocating for a change in the TFF management since the beginning, I want better managers to come in because I want to enjoy what I watch.
Sorry for not being as open-minded as you.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 21, 2023, 10:08:59 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 21, 2023, 07:51:18 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.

I'm not going to argue with you because you have a narrow view and you're probably a Galatasaray fan. If I ask you why Torreira wasn't shown a red card for swearing yesterday, you'll get defensive again so there's no need. You are thinking one sided and not looking at the big picture. It was a deliberate operation and referees are always appointed in the same way. Zorbay Küçük's record against Fenerbahçe is clear. We can also see from the statistics that he issued most of the red cards against Fenerbahçe. This man is a hitman and he always does the same before or during important matches.
By the way, I don't care about uncles. Uncles do not take the UEFA exam, referees do. Let me also state that someone who draws 0 here means that he does not know any words in English.

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 08:20:49 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 21, 2023, 07:51:18 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

You are the one talking nonsense, is there anyone in Turkey who doesn't know English swear words? Even uncles in the village know what English swear words mean.
Be a realist, I'm not defending the referee here, I'm telling you that even people who don't speak any English understand English swear words.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 21, 2023, 07:51:18 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

You're talking nonsense. Fred has nothing to do, he's going on vacation for the next two Galatasaray derbies. Only idiots will fall for that. He's never missed a game and he's eager to play every game.
Fred's English is poor and it was a problem when he played for ManU. He was taking English lessons because he speaks Portuguese. So how come a referee who got 0 in the UEFA exam understood swearing in English?
https://onedio.com/haber/sasirdik-mi-fifa-kokartli-hakem-zorbay-kucuk-un-uefa-nin-sinavinda-sifir-cekmesi-sosyal-medyanin-gundeminde-1068319

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Quote from: el kaka22 on December 20, 2023, 10:49:32 PM

Both top teams managed to get their wins today. Fenerbahce had a game where plenty of goals were scored 4-3 is not an easy feat, scoring 7 goals in a game, that was a fun game to watch I am sure, I only check the highlights, not even that if the game looked boring which makes me come to Galatasaray, I would probably check the goal alone and not anything else.

In the end, they both won, and now they are going to play against each other. Now this is the real betting opportunity starts, I am going to play for a draw, I know that the possibility of a draw is usually quite low, but I do believe that a draw would be quite possible and I think it would be quite profitable for me as well, they are both quite wonderful teams for sure.

It's a good one for both teams cause they needed to maintain their position in the standings, both teamx are having same points, and a drop in points wasn't needed at all, they understood the task at hand and did everything possible to win their matches, Fenerbahce fought hard away from home to get the 3 points but it cost them one of their key players who got booked with a red card at 90+ minutes and won't be available when they face Galatasaray in their next fixture.

Galatasaray on the other hand won their game without any stress, they dominated the game and kept a clean sheet by defeating Fatih Karagűmrűk 1-0 at their home ground, well i think their next fixture against Fenerbahce is going to be a very tough one, and would determine who would top the league, both teams are going to give out their all and i think that game might end up being a draw.

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Quote from: flipme on December 20, 2023, 06:03:30 PM

Galatasaray didn't play very well tonight but they managed to win the match. I think Kerem Aktürkoğlu was the man of the match. He has been performing well in recent weeks. He is carrying Galatasaray with his goals. I hope he will repeat the same good performance in the derby against Fenerbahçe. Icardi has not been productive in recent weeks. Kerem Aktürkoğlu shines more for this reason.

Even though Galatasaray played against a very weak team, its performance was very low. They still managed to win the match.
I think the players look tired, I think they are not very healthy both physically and psychologically due to the European matches, or they do not care much about weak teams like yesterday. They could have won a much easier victory, but they won the match by scoring only 1 goal.
Anyway, the important thing was that Galatasaray did not lose points

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 21, 2023, 05:16:58 AM

The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

Are you sure Fred doesn't speak English?
I just watched his interview in English when he was at M.United. https://twitter.com/mauroremanuel/status/1737522457639018664
And you don't need to know English to understand swear words.
Maybe Fred wanted to go on Christmas vacation?

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 20, 2023, 05:15:13 PM

Quote from: klidex on December 20, 2023, 03:09:30 AM

Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are still quite consistent in the Turkish League at the moment but Besiktas doesn't seem to be very consistent in the last 5 matches. Besiktas was only able to achieve 2 wins, 2 of which were losses and 1 draw. Besiktas has lost 8 points from the last 5 matches and the difference in points from Galatasaray and Fenerbahce it's already too far, namely 11 points and I think Besiktas is having a little difficulty catching up with the difference in points that far, whereas Besiktas' current position is in the top 5. Besiktas will have to fight hard in this match so that they don't lose any more points and if Besiktas is able to get 3 points maybe there will be changes in the top 3 positions because Kayserispor will face a quite tough match against Fenerbahce.

This match is difficult to predict because Fenerbahce and Kayserispor are both in good form but Fenerbahce will still be the favorite even though they have to play away from home if you look at the h2h data of the last 5 meetings. Fenerbahce dominates the victory over Kayserispor. I think betting on Fenerbahce or a draw is a bet convincing.

Galatasaray and Fernabache are the only 2 consistent teams in the Turkish League but Besiktas is one team that’s been slacking but they’re also one good side that could turn up when least expected, now in their next match, they’ll be needing all 3 points to create a chaos in top 3 positions and there’ll be some shift in the radar and league standings.

Fernabache are favorites for their next match because they’ll need all 3 points to keep being top and giving Galatasaray a good run for the title, this season title race is between both clubs and both would be very careful not to drop points so they'll get ahead of the other. We’ll be having some quite interesting times in the Turkish League and this is more fun for the fans, especially those whose team win consistently.

As previously thought, if the top 3 teams will win today's match, Fenerbahce won over Kayserispor with a score of 3:4, a narrow victory. Fenerbahce managed to maintain its position at the top of the standings, Fenerbahce striker Batshuayi was able to score 3 goals in this match, it was really an amazing performance, but Unfortunately, Fenerbahce had to lose 2 players in the final minutes of the match.

Meanwhile, Galatasaray was also able to win in today's match, there is not much interesting because Galatasaray only scored 1 goal but it doesn't matter, at least that 1 goal can bring Galatasaray to victory and Galatasaray managed to maintain the defense line so that Fatih Karagumruk couldn't equalize.

We will see Besiktas' performance tomorrow, if Besiktas is able to win, maybe Besiktas will return to third place if Besiktas is able to score more goals than Kayserispor.

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The red card for Fred makes no sense and the referee wrote in the report that he probably gave the red card for swearing.Zorbay Küçük, who failed UEFA's language test, must have understood the Portuguese swearing of Fred, who doesn't even speak English properly, because he showed the red card directly.The interesting thing will be how many matches this card will be announced by the arbitration board.If it is announced as 2 matches, it means a deliberate operation.I hope they won't make it so obvious that it was done so that he wouldn't play in the 2 Galatasaray matches Cheesy

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Both top teams managed to get their wins today. Fenerbahce had a game where plenty of goals were scored 4-3 is not an easy feat, scoring 7 goals in a game, that was a fun game to watch I am sure, I only check the highlights, not even that if the game looked boring which makes me come to Galatasaray, I would probably check the goal alone and not anything else.

In the end, they both won, and now they are going to play against each other. Now this is the real betting opportunity starts, I am going to play for a draw, I know that the possibility of a draw is usually quite low, but I do believe that a draw would be quite possible and I think it would be quite profitable for me as well, they are both quite wonderful teams for sure.

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Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe got 3 points tonight.
Galatasaray didn't play very well, I don't think they are ready for the derby.
Fred will not play in the Galatasaray-Fenerbahçe derby.
I hope it will be a good derby and we will enjoy it.

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Both Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe increased their winning streak to 4 games. Galatasaray won with a single goal from Kerem. Fenerbahçe won with four goals but they lost two players due to red cards. Fred and Mert Hakan Yandaş won't be available in the derby next week against Galatasaray. Cengiz Ünder scored for the first time in 13 matches under Fenerbahçe jersey. Batshuayi made a hat-trick. These are positive sides for Fenerbahçe. They conceded 3 goals, so defense is alarming. They are winning games but both teams don't look very good. Anything can happen in the derby.

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Galatasaray didn't play very well tonight but they managed to win the match. I think Kerem Aktürkoğlu was the man of the match. He has been performing well in recent weeks. He is carrying Galatasaray with his goals. I hope he will repeat the same good performance in the derby against Fenerbahçe. Icardi has not been productive in recent weeks. Kerem Aktürkoğlu shines more for this reason.

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Quote from: klidex on December 20, 2023, 03:09:30 AM

Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are still quite consistent in the Turkish League at the moment but Besiktas doesn't seem to be very consistent in the last 5 matches. Besiktas was only able to achieve 2 wins, 2 of which were losses and 1 draw. Besiktas has lost 8 points from the last 5 matches and the difference in points from Galatasaray and Fenerbahce it's already too far, namely 11 points and I think Besiktas is having a little difficulty catching up with the difference in points that far, whereas Besiktas' current position is in the top 5. Besiktas will have to fight hard in this match so that they don't lose any more points and if Besiktas is able to get 3 points maybe there will be changes in the top 3 positions because Kayserispor will face a quite tough match against Fenerbahce.

This match is difficult to predict because Fenerbahce and Kayserispor are both in good form but Fenerbahce will still be the favorite even though they have to play away from home if you look at the h2h data of the last 5 meetings. Fenerbahce dominates the victory over Kayserispor. I think betting on Fenerbahce or a draw is a bet convincing.

Galatasaray and Fernabache are the only 2 consistent teams in the Turkish League but Besiktas is one team that’s been slacking but they’re also one good side that could turn up when least expected, now in their next match, they’ll be needing all 3 points to create a chaos in top 3 positions and there’ll be some shift in the radar and league standings.

Fernabache are favorites for their next match because they’ll need all 3 points to keep being top and giving Galatasaray a good run for the title, this season title race is between both clubs and both would be very careful not to drop points so they'll get ahead of the other. We’ll be having some quite interesting times in the Turkish League and this is more fun for the fans, especially those whose team win consistently.

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Fenerbahçe managed to defeat Kayserispor away from home, one of the form teams of the last weeks and the league.The yellow navy blue team closed the first half 2-1 ahead and managed to win the match with a good game in the second half.Apart from the many positions to be discussed in the match, I think the cards should also be discussed. It looks like a deliberate incident to me.The referee did his best to prevent a valuable player like Fred from taking part in the Galatasaray derby and the rest was left to the Arbitration Board.I wonder how referee Zorbay Küçük, who doesn't even speak the language, understood Portuguese.

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Quote from: execijutiere on December 20, 2023, 10:42:10 AM

Basaksehir won 3-1 at home in a game they were behind and got 3 points.Piatek scored 2 penalty goals and Pelkas, a former Fenerbahçe player, scored the 3rd goal.Basaksehir has not been able to get the desired efficiency from the team this season and is currently in the middle of the table.Basaksehir managed to play a good game against Sivasspor and managed to win an important match to at least move away from the relegation zone.I don't know if they can finish the league in the top 4, but it is certain that they will struggle.
Adana Demirspor, on the other hand, continue to lose points.The Adana team, who returned from Gaziantep away with a draw, started to fall back in the standings after losing matches in recent weeks.With this match, it should be said that they have not won for 6 weeks.

It is impossible for them to finish league at top 4 at this point in my opinion as Trabzonspor and Adana Demirspor are both far better than Başakşehir.

Quote from: MK-74 on December 20, 2023, 08:14:42 AM

Two important games tonight. Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray.
Kayserispor vs Fenerbahçe could be exciting, everyone knows Fenerbahce, Kayserispor is in form and they are 3rd in the League.
It could be a good game.

Galatasaray vs Karagümrük, Galatasaray is the favorite of this game.
Galatasaray will most probably get 3 points from this game.

If we check the odds here:
Galatasaray 1.17
X 5.77
Karagümrük 9.38

I guess this will be one of those matches everyone will bet for bigger, stronger home side. 1.17 is too low odd to benefit from so, unless expecting a surprise avoiding this match is far better.
Fenerbahçe's match was already played and they got 3 points but it was pretty hard challenge for them. I suppose Fenerbahçe players are relaxed in later weeks so they are prone to losing point(s) soon.

Another match tonight will be played between Antalyaspor and Kasımpaşa.
Antalyaspor is favourite with 1.80 odds for them. They are on form, so its impossible for Antalyaspor to lose tonight in my opinion. I am planning to bet for Antalyaspor cause 1.80 is not bet and I am sure they are better team than Kasımpaşa in comparison.

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Basaksehir won 3-1 at home in a game they were behind and got 3 points.Piatek scored 2 penalty goals and Pelkas, a former Fenerbahçe player, scored the 3rd goal.Basaksehir has not been able to get the desired efficiency from the team this season and is currently in the middle of the table.Basaksehir managed to play a good game against Sivasspor and managed to win an important match to at least move away from the relegation zone.I don't know if they can finish the league in the top 4, but it is certain that they will struggle.
Adana Demirspor, on the other hand, continue to lose points.The Adana team, who returned from Gaziantep away with a draw, started to fall back in the standings after losing matches in recent weeks.With this match, it should be said that they have not won for 6 weeks.

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Two important games tonight. Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray.
Kayserispor vs Fenerbahçe could be exciting, everyone knows Fenerbahce, Kayserispor is in form and they are 3rd in the League.
It could be a good game.

Galatasaray vs Karagümrük, Galatasaray is the favorite of this game.
Galatasaray will most probably get 3 points from this game.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 19, 2023, 04:24:13 PM

Quote from: execijutiere on December 19, 2023, 04:16:22 PM

Last week the referee was beaten and this time Istanbulspor withdrew from the match because they didn't like the decisions.The president of Istanbulspor decided to withdraw the team from the field and had the match abandoned.The clubs who are rebelling against the bad management of the referees want this to change but we see that there is no move on this issue yet.I think there is not enough training for the referees in the Turkish league and we have seen many times before that the decisions of the referees affect the matches in a strange way.I wonder when this will stop.

The chairman know the consequences but he did it anyway. That shows us a lot of people even in management want this change, no matter what. Referees suck but this is not news, referees always suck. Last years something different happens, we are not in normal times. Foreign referee is an option because referee quality is significantly lower than other leagues. You might argue that even in Premier League referees make very controversial mistakes but ulterior motive is sought here. People don't see wrong calls as bad judgment. They think there is something else dirty underneath. This is the biggest difference between our league and other big leagues.

İstanbulspor will be penalized probably the game will be 0-3 and they will lose some more points. The chairman exactly knew this. Every week we see a different incident and the scale of this is increasing exponentially. What's next? Killing a referee? What happened is sad, but it's sadder that nothing has changed.

I wish this was not the case, but the TFF is definitely responsible for this. They didn't find a solution to this and they didn't fulfill the request of the teams. Honestly, I think everyone understands the closeness of the TFF with Galatasaray and even though this is known, the administration is not taking any steps. Mehmet Büyükekşi and his administrative staff have made the situation worse. There is no compensation for the mistakes made so far, but no measures should be taken for the future. Ali Koç said this in a statement at the time, but they will do everything to make him look guilty.

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