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legendary
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December 24, 2024, 11:57:41 AM
in my opinion Fenerbache inconsistency must be repaired by Mourinho, if they still want to stay at least in second place to qualify for the UCL qualifying round next season.

Hahaha good luck with that. Mourinho is already calculating the compensation. It was clear he didn't come here for success. He was already on a huge salary for a bad manager whose career was at the end. Now he's thinking of taking his compensation and running away. No one should expect him to resign, he has been fired throughout his career and has left the clubs in debt with huge salaries. It's not his fault, it's the fault of those who gave him this contract. Whoever made the contract should be held responsible for the club's losses, at least partly.
Is there anything else the fans and Fenerbache can do at the moment other than hoping to end the season in second place?
Of course nothing, because so far the second rank actually looks more realistic for them, because with the current point difference it certainly takes a miracle and also a very big luck for them to win the league.
Come on guys try to look back at Mourinho coaching history so far, besides Tottenham, has he ever failed to win the championship trophy with another team?
Although so far he has often been fired from a team, it cannot be denied if it is because of his attitude that often provokes controversy and is also often at odds with management who are not in line with him, so I think that it does not describe him as a bad coach and is on the edge.
legendary
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December 24, 2024, 09:55:58 AM
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Davinson Sanchez could be the biggest name in that team, while I know there are other big names, such as Osimhen, none of that would matter if Sanchez wasn't there because their defeense would be in shambles. They have the courage to test out three out on defense, because they have Sanchez and they are doing wonderful thanks to him, and on games he doesn't play, they are ending up losing points as well, so it matters a lot, and that's why they are having some issues.

I personally believe that he is the single most important player on that team. I believe that has to be the case for most people, and because of that I believe that we should not be really forgetting that defense wins championships, while offense wins games.

I agree with what you said, Davidson Sanchez is a very good defender and a player who can easily play in big European clubs.

Also our other players are also really high quality players and rare players in the league.

There is no other forward like Osimhen and Icardi in our league.
Gabriel Sara is the best transfer of this year and he can use his feet very well.
Muslera is one of the best goalkeepers in the league, if he was 2-3 years younger our goal would be safer now but he started making mistakes now.
Yunus Akgün is the most shining player of this year and he has a high probability of going to Europe next year.
Barış Alper is very fast, he can't only make the last shots, if he could do that he could play in the best teams in Europe.
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December 24, 2024, 09:19:57 AM
We saw a surprise result in the closing matches of the week.Hatayspor could not reach the victory against Adana Demirspor, which hosted at home.Hatayspor lost control of the match with 10 men in the second half despite scoring in the first half.Adana Demirspor managed to get an important 3 points away from home by scoring 3 goals after the opponent was down to 10 men.
Başakşehir, on the other hand, drew 2-2 with Kasımpaşa at home.Kasımpaşa scored the first goal.Exactly 6 minutes later, the home team managed to respond with Piatek's penalty goal and they won another penalty towards the end of the first half.Piatek managed to score the 2nd goal for both himself and his team.Kasımpaşa scored the 2nd goal in the 2nd half and managed to get 1 point from this difficult away match.
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December 24, 2024, 06:34:43 AM
I was quite nervous too honestly, victor Osimehn scored very early from the penalty spot and it didn’t take long for the home team to equalize. The first 10-20 seems very shaky for galatasary, they were trying to get the rhythm of their play together but the home team was pushing very hard especially after they got the equalizer. Just like you said some few experienced players in this squad is what is helping galatasary this season. The coming of victor osimehn is a huge boost for them, the charge for every ball, he wins Arial Duel, he press the defense relentlessly and above all he score goals. It a pity he his here on loan and I know for sure he won’t be here next season for more bigger teams in Europe are keeping tabs on him.

Sanchez have been a boost also at that defense since his arrival he has shown class countless time and he has shown that he is reliable, and give galatasary balance at that defense, maybe a good central that can be paired with him should be considered after the end of the season. With 8points clear now I think for sure the title race is over but this is football and anything is still possible.
Davinson Sanchez could be the biggest name in that team, while I know there are other big names, such as Osimhen, none of that would matter if Sanchez wasn't there because their defeense would be in shambles. They have the courage to test out three out on defense, because they have Sanchez and they are doing wonderful thanks to him, and on games he doesn't play, they are ending up losing points as well, so it matters a lot, and that's why they are having some issues.

I personally believe that he is the single most important player on that team. I believe that has to be the case for most people, and because of that I believe that we should not be really forgetting that defense wins championships, while offense wins games.
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December 24, 2024, 05:15:24 AM
Well done to Adana Demirspor.

If they continue like this, they can stay in the league.

I don't think they have a chance to stay in the league. The team they beat is Hatayspor, the other worst team in the league. Also, Hatayspor was down to 10 men in the 53rd minute, so Adana Demirspor played almost the whole second half with one player more. The succession of victories shouldn't mislead anyone. They don't have a squad that can compete in the league. In a league where four teams will be relegated, the first half is almost over and they have only 5 points. Considering that the minimum threshold to stay in the league is 40 points, it would be a big surprise for them to collect 35 points in the remaining 20 matches. I can already bet that Adana Demirspor will be relegated from the league.

My friend, the chances of relegation are very high, but Hatay is better than Adana Demirspor in terms of squad. Except for 2-3 players, all of the Adana team has young players.
Those players want to show themselves.
I know they don't get paid. This environment is the best showcase for these young players. Yusuf Sarı will most likely leave during the mid-season transfer period. Even one or two experienced players will leave, and the young players will have to do their job completely. The chances of relegation are very high, but you never know.
How a club gets to this point is another research topic.
Something caught my attention. Adanaspor, which is in the lower league, has won the last two games. They also defeated Gençlerbirliği away yesterday.
Adanaspor is also struggling to avoid relegation in the lower league.
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December 24, 2024, 05:05:59 AM
Way too many people talk about the league as if it's over, and I can see why people would feel that way, considering Galatasaray got 102 points last season, even if they do not get that many points by the end, many believe that Galatasaray won't lose 8 more points, and even if they do, let's say they lose 10-12 points total for the rest of the season, which would be stretching it and would be very unlikely but lets assume they do, even those think that Fenerbahce won't just win every single game, they are going to lose some points again, so that would make the gap maybe smaller, but still won't be enough.

I am not entirely sure if I agree with all of that, I think if everything goes well for Galatasaray then of course they will win, it looks like that, but a few injuries, Sanchez out, Osimhen out, and suddenly we see Galatasaray losing points like crazy. Whereas, if Fenerbahce makes great transfers in January window, then they could win most of their games and potentially win the title. Of course that's a smaller chance obviously, but not impossible.
The Turkish league  like is Ligue 1, where when a team has advanced far enough and left the other teams with a slightly large difference in points, then we can say they have been considered a strong candidate for the trophy even though the league still leaves a lot of matches, it cannot be denied if quality and mentality become a very big difference in the Turkish league, even Galatasaray have a history and quality that makes them one of the strongest teams in the superlig so far, although there are many factors in football, but honestly I see it will not affect Galatasaray chances in the superlig and also PSG in Ligue 1, unlike what happened in the English league and Serie A.
legendary
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December 24, 2024, 02:11:39 AM
@el kaka22 Bro this is Turkiye and if you know the league there are no teams here that can compete with the big teams, it's not like the Premier League, there is a really big difference in quality between the teams.
Galatasaray has 20 matches left and they only have a chance to lose points in 5-6 of them.
So do you believe that their opponents will win all their matches, I don't think so at all.
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December 24, 2024, 12:36:49 AM
Way too many people talk about the league as if it's over, and I can see why people would feel that way, considering Galatasaray got 102 points last season, even if they do not get that many points by the end, many believe that Galatasaray won't lose 8 more points, and even if they do, let's say they lose 10-12 points total for the rest of the season, which would be stretching it and would be very unlikely but lets assume they do, even those think that Fenerbahce won't just win every single game, they are going to lose some points again, so that would make the gap maybe smaller, but still won't be enough.

I am not entirely sure if I agree with all of that, I think if everything goes well for Galatasaray then of course they will win, it looks like that, but a few injuries, Sanchez out, Osimhen out, and suddenly we see Galatasaray losing points like crazy. Whereas, if Fenerbahce makes great transfers in January window, then they could win most of their games and potentially win the title. Of course that's a smaller chance obviously, but not impossible.
legendary
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December 23, 2024, 07:15:52 PM
Well done to Adana Demirspor.

If they continue like this, they can stay in the league.

I don't think they have a chance to stay in the league. The team they beat is Hatayspor, the other worst team in the league. Also, Hatayspor was down to 10 men in the 53rd minute, so Adana Demirspor played almost the whole second half with one player more. The succession of victories shouldn't mislead anyone. They don't have a squad that can compete in the league. In a league where four teams will be relegated, the first half is almost over and they have only 5 points. Considering that the minimum threshold to stay in the league is 40 points, it would be a big surprise for them to collect 35 points in the remaining 20 matches. I can already bet that Adana Demirspor will be relegated from the league.
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December 23, 2024, 02:01:27 PM
Well done to Adana Demirspor.
I was expecting them to definitely relegate and the team won two games in the last two.
They proved that the Beşiktaş victory was not a coincidence.
If they continue like this, they can stay in the league.
As for Hatayspor, their squad is good but they are still declining.
I wonder what they will do in the mid-season transfer window.
They lost the game they were ahead of today. I think the fact that they are not playing their games in Hatay is affecting the team badly.
Every game is considered an away game. They are playing in the nearby city of Mersin but it is still not their home ground.
I think they need to find a solution to this situation.
There is no damage to the Hatay stadium but I don't know why they are not playing there.
legendary
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December 23, 2024, 11:46:24 AM
in my opinion Fenerbache inconsistency must be repaired by Mourinho, if they still want to stay at least in second place to qualify for the UCL qualifying round next season.

Hahaha good luck with that. Mourinho is already calculating the compensation. It was clear he didn't come here for success. He was already on a huge salary for a bad manager whose career was at the end. Now he's thinking of taking his compensation and running away. No one should expect him to resign, he has been fired throughout his career and has left the clubs in debt with huge salaries. It's not his fault, it's the fault of those who gave him this contract. Whoever made the contract should be held responsible for the club's losses, at least partly.
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December 23, 2024, 11:39:07 AM
Instead of putting things in place to make Fenerbahce a competitive side, the Portuguese manager is blaming the system. What is his excuse for the club's performance in the Europa Cup? Would be still claim that the officials in the competition are also against Fenerbahce? The club have won just two games out of six in the Europa which might make them not get automatic qualification to the next phase of the competition.

Mourinho should emulate Guardiola who takes responsibility for the poor performance of Manchester City.
What is he supposed to say? Is he suppose to blame the players and put the risk of them turning against him? That's what Erik Ten Hag did and was sacked just a shortwhile later. Should he blame the management?

The ones that are paying him 10+ million a year? That would be silly of course, so what's left, is he going to go out and say he is a bad manager himself and he is the reason why they are doing badly and risk the rest of his career? His ego alone wouldn't let him see something like that. So there is only one thing left, which is the system, one way or another, referees, or whatever else in power, must be keeping them down. This way, when you say it's the system, then you are protecting the fans, the players, yourself and management all at once.
But he is not telling the truth. I have seen some poor officiating in some games in the Turkish League, even some against the league leaders Galatasaray. But these coaches prefer to keep fighting rather than complaining. Just as I said in my former post, what will be his excuse for the poor performance of Fenerbahce in the Europa? This competition is organized by UEFA and the organization can boast of some of the best referees. It is clear that the Special One has lost some of his magic touches. Maybe he needs to recheck his tactics and get some new players.
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December 23, 2024, 11:28:21 AM
The draw against Eyupspor makes it even more difficult for them to remain title contenders, so far they have been 8 points behind Galatasaray, so their chances of breaking Galatasaray dominance seem to be a dream again this season, in my opinion Fenerbache inconsistency must be repaired by Mourinho, if they still want to stay at least in second place to qualify for the UCL qualifying round next season.

If Eyupspor can continue to show consistency like this especially when against big teams, of course they have a chance to be able to finish in a better position in the league at the end of the season, but even so the league journey is still very long and it will test their mentality and consistency later.
Instead of putting things in place to make Fenerbahce a competitive side, the Portuguese manager is blaming the system. What is his excuse for the club's performance in the Europa Cup? Would be still claim that the officials in the competition are also against Fenerbahce? The club have won just two games out of six in the Europa which might make them not get automatic qualification to the next phase of the competition.

Mourinho should emulate Guardiola who takes responsibility for the poor performance of Manchester City.
I agree with what you said but I also can't deny that what mourinho said is also not wrong, because the Turkish league system is bad so far, this season is mourinho first season coaching and I think he hasn't fully overcome the fenerbache problems, if we talk about the superlig title of course at this time it will be difficult for him to win the trophy at the end season especially with the inconsistencies that his team have , indeed he should now have to build a better team and that can be a weapon to silence the Turkish league system later, talking about their chances in the European league, I think they still have a great chance to qualify for the next round with the two remaining matches they have.
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December 23, 2024, 11:11:13 AM

In the Galatasaray VS Kayserispor match and facing the bottom team in the standings, Gatasaray managed to score 5 goals against Kayserispor. Although initially I thought Kayserispor would be able to match Galatasaray's game, because in the first half after one goal was scored against Kayserispor, ten minutes later Kayserispor managed to equalize, although they had many opportunities to equalize but they were unable to maximize them properly.





As the Turkish Super Lig campaign continues to move towards the end, I think it's becoming clearer no other team in the league has all it takes to stop reigning champions Galatasaray from retaining the league title at the end of the season. Galatasaray once again was in their unstoppable mood when they faced Kayserispor yesterday. 5:1 it ended in favour of Galatasaray who's striker Victor Osimhen I think is back to his best.
I expected a more competitive league when Jose Mourinho signed for Fenerbahce but I don't think there's any team stopping Galatasaray this season. Incredible performance from them I must say
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December 23, 2024, 10:29:28 AM

In the Galatasaray VS Kayserispor match and facing the bottom team in the standings, Gatasaray managed to score 5 goals against Kayserispor. Although initially I thought Kayserispor would be able to match Galatasaray's game, because in the first half after one goal was scored against Kayserispor, ten minutes later Kayserispor managed to equalize, although they had many opportunities to equalize but they were unable to maximize them properly.





I was quite nervous in the first half of the match. But in the second half, players like Yunus Akgün, Victor Osimhen and Davinson Sanchez showed their quality and played an important role in Galatasaray's victory. Victor Osimhen and Davidson Sanchez are very experienced players. Galatasaray are very lucky to have them. Also, Yunus Akgün has improved his football style a lot this season. He is in his prime. If he continues to perform like this, he will make a good transfer to the Europa Leagues at the end of the season.

Now there is 8 points difference. I am sure we will finish this season earlier.
I was quite nervous too honestly, victor Osimehn scored very early from the penalty spot and it didn’t take long for the home team to equalize. The first 10-20 seems very shaky for galatasary, they were trying to get the rhythm of their play together but the home team was pushing very hard especially after they got the equalizer. Just like you said some few experienced players in this squad is what is helping galatasary this season. The coming of victor osimehn is a huge boost for them, the charge for every ball, he wins Arial Duel, he press the defense relentlessly and above all he score goals. It a pity he his here on loan and I know for sure he won’t be here next season for more bigger teams in Europe are keeping tabs on him.

Sanchez have been a boost also at that defense since his arrival he has shown class countless time and he has shown that he is reliable, and give galatasary balance at that defense, maybe a good central that can be paired with him should be considered after the end of the season. With 8points clear now I think for sure the title race is over but this is football and anything is still possible.
It was a commanding victory for Galatasaray as they won convincing away from home as they beat 1:5 against keyserispor to extend their lead in the Turkish super league this season,  Galatasaray is in pool position to win the league as there is no strong challenge from the rest of the teams in the league.
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December 23, 2024, 10:13:44 AM
Instead of putting things in place to make Fenerbahce a competitive side, the Portuguese manager is blaming the system. What is his excuse for the club's performance in the Europa Cup? Would be still claim that the officials in the competition are also against Fenerbahce? The club have won just two games out of six in the Europa which might make them not get automatic qualification to the next phase of the competition.

Mourinho should emulate Guardiola who takes responsibility for the poor performance of Manchester City.
What is he supposed to say? Is he suppose to blame the players and put the risk of them turning against him? That's what Erik Ten Hag did and was sacked just a shortwhile later. Should he blame the management?

The ones that are paying him 10+ million a year? That would be silly of course, so what's left, is he going to go out and say he is a bad manager himself and he is the reason why they are doing badly and risk the rest of his career? His ego alone wouldn't let him see something like that. So there is only one thing left, which is the system, one way or another, referees, or whatever else in power, must be keeping them down. This way, when you say it's the system, then you are protecting the fans, the players, yourself and management all at once.

I'll be very surprised if Jose Mourinho blames himself for the clubs recent poor form, I've known him to be full of himself and always looking for who to blame when things ain't going well, it's either he blames the officiating system, the management for not being fully supportive in the transfer window even though they're or lack of quality players but the worst thing he'll do is single out some particular players to blame for the teams poor performance, he could lose total control of the dressing room if he does that and it would be better he takes all the blame during interviews and address the teams poor form off the media instead of coming to the media to backlash any player, we've witness something like that happen in other clubs across Europe and coaches that does that ends up being sacked, on a normal the coach as the head and Manger of a club is the first target to be blamed when things ain't going well on the pitch therefore instead of passing the blame and making things worst it's better to act professional, take all the blame and move on, work on getting better results and prove them wrong.
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December 23, 2024, 09:43:05 AM
There are two matches in the Super League today. Hatayspor will play against Adana Demirspor and Başakşehir will play against Kasımpaşa. I see Başakşehir - Kasımpaşa match as a better match. Both matches will start at the same time. I will focus on the Başakşehir - Kasımpaşa match. Başakşehir were eliminated from the UEFA Conference League after a 1-1 draw with Cercle Brugge. Then they lost to Fenerbahçe in the league. They have not had a good performance in the last weeks. On the other hand, Kasımpaşa collected 5 points in their last 3 matches. They beat Eyüpspor in their last league match. Kasımpaşa have a better performance in the last weeks. But Başakşehir have a better squad. I think we can say that both teams are equal in strength. I like to bet on both teams to score in matches like this. Both teams are close on points. Both teams are Istanbul teams. Both teams like to play an open game. I think both teams will score in this match.
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December 23, 2024, 09:09:11 AM
What happened between Volkan Demirel and Şenol Güneş in the Trabzonspor Bodrum match yesterday will be talked about more than the match itself.

Nobody even talked about the match or the game.

Volkan Demirel: He was very upset with the statements made by Şenol Güneş after the earthquake in Hatay and he showed this with his reaction yesterday.
In his post-match statements, Şenol Güneş's statements were even worse. "I will go and extend my hand even if the opponent is a dog"
were even worse.
In Turkey, these statements are talked about for 2-3 weeks and then forgotten.
Şenol Güneş was able to make such a sentence because Volkan was a student of the national team. He would never have made such a sentence if he had Mustafa Denizli or Fatih Terim on the other side.

You don't have to be happy with everyone. Şenol Güneş's statements in the past were very wrong and Volkan Demirel reacted to that. There were many writers in the media who wrote that Volkan was wrong, but no one would expect sincerity after such a statement. In my opinion, Volkan showed a right attitude and did not shake hands with Şenol Güneş. Anyway, Şenol Güneş's statements after the match proved this. If you make statements that do not deserve respect, you have to bear the consequences. I don't see anything to exaggerate in this news. Volkan did the right thing in his own way.
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December 23, 2024, 05:50:28 AM
What happened between Volkan Demirel and Şenol Güneş in the Trabzonspor Bodrum match yesterday will be talked about more than the match itself.

Nobody even talked about the match or the game.

Volkan Demirel: He was very upset with the statements made by Şenol Güneş after the earthquake in Hatay and he showed this with his reaction yesterday.
In his post-match statements, Şenol Güneş's statements were even worse. "I will go and extend my hand even if the opponent is a dog"
were even worse.
In Turkey, these statements are talked about for 2-3 weeks and then forgotten.
Şenol Güneş was able to make such a sentence because Volkan was a student of the national team. He would never have made such a sentence if he had Mustafa Denizli or Fatih Terim on the other side.
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December 23, 2024, 05:02:30 AM
Galatasaray if you ask made one of the smartest moves during the summer transfer window by signing Nigeria striker Victor Osimhen on loan. Today in the Galatasaray's convincing win at Kayserispor, Osimhen scored yet another brace to take his total goal tally of the season to 12 goals in 15 matches for the Turkish champions. If Victor Osimhen continues to stay fit,  I don't think there's anything that'll stop Galatasaray from retaining the league title this season.
Definitely a great deal in my books. I was shocked when the news about Galatasaray signing him on loan broke out — I know they have strikers like Icardi and Batshuayi but Victor Osimhen was definitely a great deal for them.

Galatasaray will definitely win the title because the only contender is Fenerbahce and Fenerbahce have been mediocre this season albeit a few promising results.
Bringing Osimhen in Turkey and now having good chance of winning another title is surely the biggest achievements for them with after 16 rounds we have no defeat for them, and they are clearly leading league table by 8 points mean things are well under control for next half of season while we have 20 matches remaining and Galatasaray can go through without losing anything even they are having injuries issue but now with the services of Osimhen they are not worried about anything.

Fenerbahçe fails to bring improvement despite having José Mourinho and Besiktas is also going down which is giving open room to leaders Galatasaray for staying at top and enjoying wins huge margin like they have in last game against relegation zone team Kayserispor with score of 1–5.
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